Trying to train your body to move correctly from the top of the backswing is one of the hardest things in golf because there is a transition after which everything happens so fast you have no idea whether it was right or wrong. Especially when you sometimes get a good result from a wrong move. Thanks for the tip and drill.
Cool to see a young teacher have such a good grasp on the mechanics of the swing. He does a great job of explaining how/why we get stuck. Keep up the good work.
Right on point...keeping my back towards target and not turning hips kept me from going over the top. All this time I thought it was me from not turning faster. Definitely will be a subscriber from now on!
there are a lot of us who would benefit from a video of your slo mo swing, and also a super slo mo swing. we could then tie the sequences together. thank you for all you do !
Extremely helpful. Thanks a lot! Today (before seeing this video) I hit one great drive by trying to get my hands/arms further advanced in the sequencing without fully understanding quite what I was doing !; now that I do understand better, hopefully can repeat more often after seeing your video!
i hear you! what helped me was telling myself my hands were late. my worst mishits happen when my hands are late. i rarely hit really bad shots when my hands are ahead. also, my right shoulder going away and down in the downswing changed things for me.
Glad to see a video on this. So many people are out there seeing videos of players being told to turn without understanding that the drill is for that player specifically. Very straight forward way of teaching, love it.
Your videos are amazing. Love the way you demonstrate the motions, makes it so easy to digest. It would be awesome if you could get a down the line video angle at the same time. Thanks for all your lessons!
I love drills. This will help. I most certainly am the guy you show doing it the wrong way with too much body rotation early in the swing. Good drill to practice while it's raining outside.
very good info, i tend to kind of jump up too early and it feels like my body gets in the way of my arms so i've been trying to keep my right foot flat on the ground a bit longer to stop and it seems to help. it's like the downswing happens in a flash and things can go wrong very quickly.
this is the exact problem i have: rotating my upper body on the incorrect axis, causing my hands to get "stuck" in the downswing. my miss is a duck-hook left or a fade that takes about 20 yards off my regular distance. the key for me was realizing that i needed more weight on my lead foot. but the breakthrough came when i realized that it was my right shoulder doing all the damage. i had to learn how to make myself feel like my right shoulder shoots away from the target and down to initiate my backswing. that's not what actually happens, but that's what it feels like for me. and i came to that conclusion because i realized the only way to keep myself balanced with my weight predominantly on my lead foot was to keep my head back behind the ball. the only way i can swing the club successfully in these positions if my right shoulder gets low through impact. i used to just spin my shoulders towards the target as fast as i could to generate clubspeed. it was nice when i timed it right, but very inconsistent. i can now hit any club to a consistent distance because of my swing changes. i also get to the moment of impact and then full extension of my lead arm right after impact that Jonathan talks about in a different video. *click-thump* is now music to my ears. thanks for the great content!
I have noticed that i have to start consciously from the top with my arms because when I dont I am so far behind that I hit it so far right whether in most cases it is a deadpush tonthe right or bigtime slice because the face is wide open. From the top do I initiate with the arms or hands? Also in the takeaway what is the easiest swing thought to start? I often freeze over the ball. Awesome content as always and love the short videos getting right to the point and not overload.
your push/slice could be caused from a few different issues but assuming that your body is outracing your arms then the more correct feel would be with the arms while the body stays really closed. The correct feel in the takeaway really depends on your swing but if you are someone who freezes then it often means that you initiate too much with the wrist and arms and not enough with the body.
@@JKMGolf thanks for the response. You spot on with the takeaway. I use my hands and arms and struggle for some reason turning with the body. I feel the turn without a club, but as soon as I put a club in my hand I want to use my hands and arms. I will definitely give more attention to the body. I appreciate the response!!!
same here. tell me, how many times did you leave the range or the course just defeated? it honestly would ruin my week (I'm a tad bit obsessed with golf and the golf swing. lol.). Jonathan's videos made me whole again.
My big fear with this drill is that the clubhead will get to the ball first before my hands do, thus causing the dreaded snap hook. (Great job explaining what “stuck” means, I’ve seen some tour pro vids doing the same drill but not actually explaining very well what “getting unstuck” really means)
Thanks for the info Jonathan. Could getting stuck on the downswing also cause the trail shoulder to dip leading to a path that's too much from the inside?
Another good content! After few years with SnT now I know that is release of PA#4 while keeping left shoulder a litte bilt longer. Still did not find instruction on how and is there actually a need to sallow the shaft in SnT or not and how to get the left wrist bowed from where. Looking to your soonest video release on that.
Good stuff Jonathan. I am a 3 handicapper and struggle with getting my arm off my chest as I rotate through and it drags my head head forward with it. I have tried this drill but somehow I can’t quite rotate through properly trying to keep my chest and body closed to start down. Would love to send you a vid of my swing and see what you think. Thanks
actually, i think it perfectly aligns. in order to do the things Jonathan has mentioned, you have to use the ground correctly. for instance, getting your weight forward means you need to push down and towards the target. to keep your head behind the ball through impact, you have to drive with your legs. i think he stays away from talking about using the ground because that should naturally happen if you get your body in the correct positions. i've used so many of his videos and drills to get me playing better golf. i was a 13 handicap, now i'm an 8. crazy thing is all the full swing videos translated to my short game. it's so much easier because everything is smaller, slower, and precise. and now that i can swing the club properly, i'm looking to score from 100 yards and in instead of just hoping to get it on the green or somewhere close to it. lol.
Hi! My son 11 yrs old, has this similar issue. Take away looks good but then he starts lifting his arms and not keeping them in front of his chest. Then downswing his left arm is connected to his chest and rotates just like your bad version of rotation and gets stuck. Is the rising arms potentially a focus problem as well as feeling too quick of rotation? Thanks!
Jonathan, any tips on dealing with left wrist pain? After hundreds of balls on the range, I get a little wrist pain. I take nice divots and hit the ball fairly straight. Is there a way to avoid the pain through mechanics or just rest and recover?
My way is to feel a heavy arms/club combination throughout the swing which produces a wide arc. It feels like you are swinging a heavy object around your body like a pendulum. You use the shoulders in the backswing and hips in the downswing. From personal experience this produces the correct sequence. Not sure this technique is the swing you teach. Could you comment?
What is the little blurred rectangle that I frequently see in Jonathan's videos? Sometimes it's unobtrusive. But sometimes it's in an unfortunate location.
This is very helpful for my down swing.I had big issue . I can not hit the ball high with any clubs iron or hybrid. I am seventy two year old .Need help. My name is Wyman Lee.Thx
Could this cause low hooks on the driver? That is what I currently struggle with and I feel my issue is the overly active and rotating hips early in the sequence.
Hi sensei JKM, my problem is the opposite to this video. My arms and shoulders turn faster than the hip during downswing. So at ball impact, my shirt's button and belt buckle would still point directly to the ball rather than infront of the ball. Do you have any drill to fix this problem? I've already watched all the takeaway, the downswing series, and the rotation videos but still could not fix it. 😔😭
Would this be why I’m really inconsistent lately on ball contact? I noticed many of these shots contact the toe but in some cases it’s all over the face. Very frustrating. I used to pound the center of the face and now I’m afraid of the driver and 3 wood entirely
But then wouldn't this drill just encourage the right arm to straighten before impact (cast-early release) and the body to stall??? That's what they are doing wrong already!!! Arms stay back and body spins ahead, then body stalls and they try to pull the arms through. This drill just encourages more of the same! What we really need is to feel arm/chest structure moving with the body rotation... not independently of each other. Yes, ground up. Yes, hips go slightly ahead, etc etc. But it all happens so fast that what we need to feel is SYNC. They move basically together. The arms and hands don't stay back. They don't move independent of hips/chest/shoulders either. They move TOGETHER (basically)... with V-structure maintained. A better feel for the technique is keep right arm bend and get the right elbow on the torso or in front of torso and turn... maintain V as you rotate. And get depth in the back swing. Now feel the connection and sequence properly. Now you're synced up.
Statistically the worst players swing the most over the top while the better players swing slightly from in to out. Coming over the top can cause injury in the long term as well
The hips do move first in the downswing but many people take that advice too literally and have their arms and hands lagging too far behind their body which causes issues as well. For players who are moving their bodies too much in relation to their arms and hands then usually they will have to FEEL as if their arms are more involved in order to correct their sequencing.
@@JKMGolf Thank you. It makes sense to me and I am just trying to understand. I hit a HUGE push block (square in the face) when I miss. I think it is this. I'm "behind". Just trying to use my hips correctly for the first time ever. Makes sense that I'm out of time when I miss.
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Wrong mate it’s Adam Porzak by a country mile !!
Trying to train your body to move correctly from the top of the backswing is one of the hardest things in golf because there is a transition after which everything happens so fast you have no idea whether it was right or wrong. Especially when you sometimes get a good result from a wrong move. Thanks for the tip and drill.
Cool to see a young teacher have such a good grasp on the mechanics of the swing. He does a great job of explaining how/why we get stuck. Keep up the good work.
I have also studied a lot of videos and for many years - This young teacher is AMAZING
This is exactly what I needed. Went to the range, tried it, instant results
Right on point...keeping my back towards target and not turning hips kept me from going over the top. All this time I thought it was me from not turning faster. Definitely will be a subscriber from now on!
I like this guy. Easy to understand and not too much talking like those other coaches from UK.
this is an excellent demo of the sequence. this will help a lot of us. the sequence is everything.
You have a wonderful ability to communicate your points. I enjoy your teaching.
appreciate it! I hope it helps
Yout the absolute best instructor I have ever watched. Thank you so much.. very helpful. I'd love in person lessons
there are a lot of us who would benefit from a video of your slo mo swing, and also a super slo mo swing. we could then tie the sequences together. thank you for all you do !
As a person who fights this as I hit many blocks or that low thin catch up draw that doesn’t look or feel great I can totally appreciate this.
Jonathan is excellent, very clear advice
Extremely helpful. Thanks a lot! Today (before seeing this video) I hit one great drive by trying to get my hands/arms further advanced in the sequencing without fully understanding quite what I was doing !; now that I do understand better, hopefully can repeat more often after seeing your video!
i hear you! what helped me was telling myself my hands were late. my worst mishits happen when my hands are late. i rarely hit really bad shots when my hands are ahead. also, my right shoulder going away and down in the downswing changed things for me.
Glad to see a video on this. So many people are out there seeing videos of players being told to turn without understanding that the drill is for that player specifically. Very straight forward way of teaching, love it.
Don't ever stop doing the videos Jonathan! You're helping me out of some ruts!
Excellent description of how sequencing can affect positions, face to path and getting stuck. Great job!
This is the first video I have ever seen of yours and I instantly subscribed. You are very concise and extremely helpful. Cheers!
Your videos are amazing. Love the way you demonstrate the motions, makes it so easy to digest. It would be awesome if you could get a down the line video angle at the same time. Thanks for all your lessons!
This was awesome. Struggled with this coming from baseball growing up
Great explanation of sequencing!
Great Video. Best explanation I have seen so far on the web and I have seen a lot ;)
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really like the topics you talk about, and how on point your videos are! my new fav channel for golf tips!
finally found my go-to golf teacher after round and round
I love drills. This will help. I most certainly am the guy you show doing it the wrong way with too much body rotation early in the swing. Good drill to practice while it's raining outside.
Wish I had watched his video earlier so clear n good in instructions
Awesome video. My upper body always rotates quicker than my arms.
Great content. Love the idea of staying closed helps so much
This exactly what’s going on in my swing,I, going to try this the range and get to you. Great video
This is awesome man. Been trying to fire the hips and open the chest as quickly as possible thinking that's the way to get shaft lean lol.
very good info, i tend to kind of jump up too early and it feels like my body gets in the way of my arms so i've been trying to keep my right foot flat on the ground a bit longer to stop and it seems to help. it's like the downswing happens in a flash and things can go wrong very quickly.
Good advice. I will definitely try this out on the range. Thanks!
Love all the tips and videos.
Great lesson man, agree you make it easy to understand.
Amazing explanation of my problem.....thank you!
Excellent sir!
I think that this lesson will be very helpful for me, thanks.
this is the exact problem i have: rotating my upper body on the incorrect axis, causing my hands to get "stuck" in the downswing. my miss is a duck-hook left or a fade that takes about 20 yards off my regular distance. the key for me was realizing that i needed more weight on my lead foot. but the breakthrough came when i realized that it was my right shoulder doing all the damage. i had to learn how to make myself feel like my right shoulder shoots away from the target and down to initiate my backswing. that's not what actually happens, but that's what it feels like for me. and i came to that conclusion because i realized the only way to keep myself balanced with my weight predominantly on my lead foot was to keep my head back behind the ball. the only way i can swing the club successfully in these positions if my right shoulder gets low through impact. i used to just spin my shoulders towards the target as fast as i could to generate clubspeed. it was nice when i timed it right, but very inconsistent. i can now hit any club to a consistent distance because of my swing changes. i also get to the moment of impact and then full extension of my lead arm right after impact that Jonathan talks about in a different video. *click-thump* is now music to my ears. thanks for the great content!
Good one and spot on!
I have noticed that i have to start consciously from the top with my arms because when I dont I am so far behind that I hit it so far right whether in most cases it is a deadpush tonthe right or bigtime slice because the face is wide open. From the top do I initiate with the arms or hands? Also in the takeaway what is the easiest swing thought to start? I often freeze over the ball. Awesome content as always and love the short videos getting right to the point and not overload.
your push/slice could be caused from a few different issues but assuming that your body is outracing your arms then the more correct feel would be with the arms while the body stays really closed.
The correct feel in the takeaway really depends on your swing but if you are someone who freezes then it often means that you initiate too much with the wrist and arms and not enough with the body.
@@JKMGolf thanks for the response. You spot on with the takeaway. I use my hands and arms and struggle for some reason turning with the body. I feel the turn without a club, but as soon as I put a club in my hand I want to use my hands and arms. I will definitely give more attention to the body. I appreciate the response!!!
awesome explain and video . breathe of fresh Air.
great video ,i was getting "stuck " and did these exact things to stop it
same here. tell me, how many times did you leave the range or the course just defeated? it honestly would ruin my week (I'm a tad bit obsessed with golf and the golf swing. lol.). Jonathan's videos made me whole again.
Great video I have been struggling with pushed shots for the last month or so
Love your videos bro , keep up the good work
Great video! Thank you so much.
Thanks for the info. But can you detail how Charlie woods for example is able to have so much rotation yet still has success with his swing?
Turned 58 today, took this tip to a trackman. Usually hit drive 250ish. Had a 280! And many 265ish!
Another great video
I like the drill at the end.
My big fear with this drill is that the clubhead will get to the ball first before my hands do, thus causing the dreaded snap hook. (Great job explaining what “stuck” means, I’ve seen some tour pro vids doing the same drill but not actually explaining very well what “getting unstuck” really means)
hold lag, strike ball with forward shaft lean, and turn knuckles toward the ground at impact....game over hitting bombs
Great Drill!
Thanks for the info Jonathan. Could getting stuck on the downswing also cause the trail shoulder to dip leading to a path that's too much from the inside?
Another good content! After few years with SnT now I know that is release of PA#4 while keeping left shoulder a litte bilt longer. Still did not find instruction on how and is there actually a need to sallow the shaft in SnT or not and how to get the left wrist bowed from where. Looking to your soonest video release on that.
The shaft in most cases will have to shallow out but I think I could make a video about that. Thanks for the idea!
Excellent!
Omg, that's literally me!!! My partner always say that I turn too fast and hand are way behind. I'm gonna pratice and have a surpritfor him
Awesome video and explanation, really trying to work on this feeling. Do you do personal lessons online or anything?
Good stuff Jonathan. I am a 3 handicapper and struggle with getting my arm off my chest as I rotate through and it drags my head head forward with it. I have tried this drill but somehow I can’t quite rotate through properly trying to keep my chest and body closed to start down. Would love to send you a vid of my swing and see what you think. Thanks
Here is my website you can check out for online lessons/analysis:
www.jkmgolfacademy.com
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Great stuff buddy
Excellent
Very interesting. How does this square up with the concept of swinging “from the ground up”? I really like your analysis!
actually, i think it perfectly aligns. in order to do the things Jonathan has mentioned, you have to use the ground correctly. for instance, getting your weight forward means you need to push down and towards the target. to keep your head behind the ball through impact, you have to drive with your legs. i think he stays away from talking about using the ground because that should naturally happen if you get your body in the correct positions. i've used so many of his videos and drills to get me playing better golf. i was a 13 handicap, now i'm an 8. crazy thing is all the full swing videos translated to my short game. it's so much easier because everything is smaller, slower, and precise. and now that i can swing the club properly, i'm looking to score from 100 yards and in instead of just hoping to get it on the green or somewhere close to it. lol.
Hi! My son 11 yrs old, has this similar issue. Take away looks good but then he starts lifting his arms and not keeping them in front of his chest. Then downswing his left arm is connected to his chest and rotates just like your bad version of rotation and gets stuck. Is the rising arms potentially a focus problem as well as feeling too quick of rotation? Thanks!
Jonathan, any tips on dealing with left wrist pain? After hundreds of balls on the range, I get a little wrist pain. I take nice divots and hit the ball fairly straight. Is there a way to avoid the pain through mechanics or just rest and recover?
My way is to feel a heavy arms/club combination throughout the swing which produces a wide arc. It feels like you are swinging a heavy object around your body like a pendulum. You use the shoulders in the backswing and hips in the downswing. From personal experience this produces the correct sequence. Not sure this technique is the swing you teach. Could you comment?
I think I’m getting stuck from trying to create separation. Can you tell me the difference?
I feel like getting stuck can also be caused by poor arm structure at the top. Like flying elbow or disconnection of the arms
What is the little blurred rectangle that I frequently see in Jonathan's videos? Sometimes it's unobtrusive. But sometimes it's in an unfortunate location.
This is very helpful for my down swing.I had big issue . I can not hit the ball high with any clubs iron or hybrid. I am seventy two year old .Need help. My name is Wyman Lee.Thx
You gotta get on the foresight and record a range session with yourself. Would love to watch. My ball flight grouping looks like a firework on gc2 Lol
That as helpful. Thanks
Could this cause low hooks on the driver? That is what I currently struggle with and I feel my issue is the overly active and rotating hips early in the sequence.
This is a different issue but Low hooks are always caused by an overly closed club face in relation to the swing path
Do your concept mean you move your arms first? No hip turn?
but first the lower body turns and the hips are already turned towards the target at the moment of impact. now I do not understand anything anymore ?
Hi sensei JKM, my problem is the opposite to this video. My arms and shoulders turn faster than the hip during downswing. So at ball impact, my shirt's button and belt buckle would still point directly to the ball rather than infront of the ball. Do you have any drill to fix this problem? I've already watched all the takeaway, the downswing series, and the rotation videos but still could not fix it. 😔😭
I need to see your actual golf swing to tell you specifically.
I have been trying to shorten my backswing for a long time. when I try I seem to hit the ball fat sometimes. Any tips ?
Would have to see your swing to know for sure based on your tendencies
He's contradicting Hogan here. Not sure he's wrong either. Great coach!!!
Hogan has good sequencing to prevent being stuck
Lately I’m getting stuck but it produces a hook in my case.
you are most likely someone who rolls the wrists a lot and closes the club face too much in order to get the club infront of you.
Would this be why I’m really inconsistent lately on ball contact? I noticed many of these shots contact the toe but in some cases it’s all over the face. Very frustrating. I used to pound the center of the face and now I’m afraid of the driver and 3 wood entirely
I have been trying to do the opposite, now I understand why my distance in down and contact and compression is not solid. 🙄🙄🙄
I thought you need to start from the bottom up? Whenever I try this move my lower body becomes static and it becomes an upper body swing.
Do you give personal lessons online?
I have this problem. But aren't you supposed to leave with your hip.
how tall are you
5'11"
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You often found common fault of weekend golfer. It’s something I notice but never consistently try this.
But then wouldn't this drill just encourage the right arm to straighten before impact (cast-early release) and the body to stall??? That's what they are doing wrong already!!! Arms stay back and body spins ahead, then body stalls and they try to pull the arms through. This drill just encourages more of the same!
What we really need is to feel arm/chest structure moving with the body rotation... not independently of each other. Yes, ground up. Yes, hips go slightly ahead, etc etc. But it all happens so fast that what we need to feel is SYNC. They move basically together. The arms and hands don't stay back. They don't move independent of hips/chest/shoulders either. They move TOGETHER (basically)... with V-structure maintained. A better feel for the technique is keep right arm bend and get the right elbow on the torso or in front of torso and turn... maintain V as you rotate. And get depth in the back swing. Now feel the connection and sequence properly. Now you're synced up.
Is it dangerous to come over the top.?
Statistically the worst players swing the most over the top while the better players swing slightly from in to out. Coming over the top can cause injury in the long term as well
Totally confused. Hogan said your hips go first, then arms, then hands. You look like you're dropping your arms first. ?
The hips do move first in the downswing but many people take that advice too literally and have their arms and hands lagging too far behind their body which causes issues as well. For players who are moving their bodies too much in relation to their arms and hands then usually they will have to FEEL as if their arms are more involved in order to correct their sequencing.
@@JKMGolf Thank you. It makes sense to me and I am just trying to understand. I hit a HUGE push block (square in the face) when I miss. I think it is this. I'm "behind". Just trying to use my hips correctly for the first time ever. Makes sense that I'm out of time when I miss.
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