Simulating The BFS Descent 'Skydive' In KSP - Fly By Wire with kRPC
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- I'm not the first to attempt this, but stock KSP doesn't really lend itself to the 'skydiver' descent control mechanic, at least not without adding a buttload of reaction wheels, reaction control thrusters and extra aerodynamic surfaces.
My solution - Kerbal RPC for fly by wire, intercepting my controls and translating them, along with a movable mass to adjust the center of mass.
I still can't steer it to a specific landing site yet, however to be fair the SpaceX engineers have spent a lot more time working on the problem....
Music in the failures section is 'The Show Must Be Go' by Kevin Macleod
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New Scott Manley video? About the BFS? Including KSP? Yup. Yup. Yup.....uumm....YUP!
Aspect Science you keep commenting same shit on every video.
Milkywegian what? I don't even know if I've commented on Scott Manley's before or at least much before?
I'm glad it didn't work the first time. It wouldn't be KSP without a lot of explosions. :)
2024:
How Not to Land with a Modern Artist Onboard
Uh oh
The Spherical Earth Hahahahahaha
Lol i can just imagine the artists on IVA out there painting on canvas
Quite frankly, id be ok with that... i cant stand that guy lol
I still remember the one with the radar glitched Falcon 9 booster dancing on the drone ship XD
Scott doing this video is the first thing I thought of when I watched Elon show the simulation of this process last week
Me too.
I was pretty sure of it as well. Been looking around if anyone else would try this, I'm happy Scott did!
"Random unscheduled disassemblies" Scott you ARE the BEST!!
Oh man, those failed attempts at the end with that music cracked me up
The one where you landed on a mountain side and the crew cabin rolled down the hill...ugh. Kinda nightmarish.
One question: If the rocked lands with basically the right velocity, but kinda falls over like on these videos, but there are no more fuel in the tanks, would it explode in real life?
It would not explode, but pretty much destroy itself under its own weight, this is basically a 50meter tall building that just falls on its side, that breaking and shuttering though, flying everywhere
"The one where you landed on a mountain side and the crew cabin rolled down the hill...ugh. Kinda nightmarish." Yeah, you could almost spin the Uranium right out of the Kerbals head with that much centrifugal force. Fun video Scott.
I guess the tanks are still under pressure. Some of the failed Falcon 9 landings exploded when falling over, but without a huge fireball, because of the empty tanks. So maybe something like that. Just a thought
There is no such thing as "no more propellant in the tanks" even if the engine burns out. There will be bit more LOX or fuel left and plenty of fumes in the so called "empty" one, enough for a small fireball.
Yeah, I was thinking they can't be all empty.
But I don't know the engineering part at all so I had to ask.
Also yeah, the failed falcon rocked attempts came to mind, where they said they ran out of propellant but there was an explosion.
And yeah, a big falcon rocket falling over is probably enough to shatter the whole thing completely.
I have a feeling that this way to land a rocket is pretty risky bit
Then the current way of landing- the cabin falls from the sky with a parachute is not exactly better either.
The Flying Squid......So long and thanks for all the fish.
Rolled down a mountain at 2000 rpm but survived.
i actualy tried to figure out how fast it spins but i cant due to the fps beeing to low and .25 playback speed beeing to fast.
Remind yourself that it is possible to frame advance RUclips videos.
Tough chaps those kerbals
No Kerbals were harmed in the making of this video.
Penny Lane Many engines and landing struts were.
Yep... they may not have been too happy, but at least they survived.
Awesome Scott! If there was a Nobel Prize of Patience - you would get it!!
your videos are my absolute favorite youtube podcast and they never cease to impress me
I feel like Falcon is a place holder for another word
I mean, think about it, Big Falcon Rocket, Big Falcon Ship, Falcon Heavy.
Don't forget the "Big Fuckin Rocket" one
No ship, Sherlock!
I love how Jescas Kerman would briefly get scared when something exploded, then immediately go back to smiling. What a cheery kerbal. I think those three orange-suits might've been a bit nauseous after all that rolling, though.
Oh man I know Tim is going to be stoked out of his mind you showed his clip. Love you Scott Manley!
WOW WOW WOW thank you! This helped me a lot to understand how BFS uses aerodynamic for re-entry!
And also SKILLZZZ!
That's a decent descent
If it works in ksp, it works in irl too
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Love any news on Space x and the BFR, thanks so much for all the hard work on it.
Haha love the bloopers. Another great video!
The fact that no kerbals died in the making of this video(that you showed anyway) is quite impressive!
No "fly safe"? :/
I really didn't think it needed it this time.
There's nothing safe about flying this thing one might say.
"fly safe o7" there you go :p
Bonus points for the on point key change into the outro song
Awesome - I admire your tenacity!!! Another great video!
Great video, Scott. Hilarious ending. Love the music, funny and catchy. And seemed familiar. I kept hearing, da da da de da da da daa daa. I heard funk. Took me a minute to sort it out. Memorable vocal line from Flashlight by Parliament. Just similar of course.
I loved the blooper bit at the end!
That was epic beyond words
How could you ever doubt Jebediah? Of course he would make that landing, regardless of re-entry profile and g-loading. Jebediah is the man.
Rolling Capsule. Most entertaining crash of your RUclips career thus far!
Hahaha! Beautiful endings, man! A little hot...a little hard...a little crunchy...great vid!
You completed my past year of ksp fumbling thank you
Hi Scott, Kerbal Operating System may be about to automate the wings in a manageable way. You cold automate the whole process even. Great vid!
Superb ... I’ll never ask “What could possibly go wrong?” again. :-)
That is awesome! Great use of krpc to change the control scheme! Now I wish KSP implemented infernal robotics hahaha
I guess you could make a simple suicide burn script to help you hover at the last minute with a PID Controller attached to the throttle.
Man that capsule rolling off the mountain was incredible! Hahahhahhha
When someone's failure montage looks more successful than most of your routine missions.
Bless Jeb and Val's love for explosions, I would have been dragged into Kerbal Labour Court so often by now...
I actually play a campaign in which I only did tourist contracts for the most part, converting profit and rep into science, using plane like re-entry vehicles. This reminds me of that
Hi Scott, I just realised something. The pendulum rocket you talked about a while ago actually hat one big advantage. Of course it doesn’t right itself BUT with this setup you can stage the fuel tanks while keeping the same engines all the way up which should save quite some weight
Yay a new KSP vid from Scott Manley!
How interesting that SpaceX seems to agree with you on that third fin now :D
Haha, I like the unplanned disassembles at the end 😂💪
so many spacex and bfr videos after the recent conference, i love it
I knew when I watched the SpaceX animation of the 'Skydive' I knew good old Scott would try and reproduce it in KSP. That day has come!
Finaly oh kerbals how i missed you, keep it up scott
Lol that poor person on the trumpet in the music on the end XD
ok that music + ksp + bits explodeing and I thought for a moment I'd warped into a danny video once you got done talking.
Well at least all the crashes were survivable... Nice song choice btw it was very interesting.
Good news folks, the guy who made Tundra exploriaton mod is currently working in the new bfr design! He said that it could be ready by the end of this month
This was an accurate glimpse into the future at the end 🤣
Any landing that you survive is a good landing. So, those where all successful landings.
I really like the last one down the mountain.
Capsule : Look ! I'm a wheel ! I can roll down that mountain slope !
Crew : We are going to get sick. We ARE sick.
Finally, music Kerbal enough for KSP.
Cool! To make the suicide burns easier you can switch the SAS to radial out when most of the horizontal velocity is gone, so it doesn't try to go upside down when you reach a standstill.
That last one would be a great way to find out what Kerbal vomit looks like!
You've invented a new landing technique -- the Cartwheel Landing!
Certainly enjoyed the "Fail" music. :)
Never be in mid drink during a Manly landing... you’ll most definitely choke from sudden outbursts of laughter
BFS Astronaut Pilot Training MUST have the attempts with the music!!
Enjoyed watching all those RUDs😜!!!
Loved the last crash!
New ksp video from Scott? Yes please!
That trip down the mountain side.... lmao I can imagine Kerbal jelly coating the inside of that thing ☠️
kRPC is so underrated.. incredible tool! Great job btw! I'm still trying to do this manually with Kerbal hinges made out of thermometers lol
So this is what Scott has been up to since the press announcement! Well done!
To anyone thinking of being invited, ask yourself if you still want to go! :-)
(I'm sure they'll work out the bugs first)
Scott Manley got it to work in KSP... it’s a done deal!
Interesting feedback about the risk of the de-facto vertical stabilizer being a control risk if it were to roll out of the leeward side during reentry. An oscillation on a craft that size would either rip it to shreds or eventually centrifuge the passengers to pancakes.
and whow, those kerbals got some stomach control, i would have puked after riding a rolling cabin for so long xD
what if. Disable wings posiotioning BFR after engines take place? To many variables = to many failed attempts...
I already know that this is going to be interesting.
I love how you go the extra miles to try it as "real" as possible, you're the real Rocket Man...ley!
Would it not make this much easier to map á throttle stick to ksp? So you can percisely control throttle instead of just hoping you hit the right throttle by luck with the shift/control Keys?
For the uninitiated: it looks like landing involves much heat buildup like on space shuttle (where it caused much fuss with tile inspection/repair). Is that true or are the temps here much lower? Thanks!!
When it's not pukey it's explody :)
AMAZING VIDEO! I hope you will make a lot of kOS/kRPC videos in the future
Yay, I vote Scott as the first official test pilot for BFR
Some lucky Kerbals at the end of that video!!!!
The memory of Danny lives on
my eye always gets drawn to their faces when something goes wrong. KSP wouldn't be KSP without those images of the kerbals
You had all of those crashes because you never said fly safe.
You shall definitely do another KSP series!
I know this is unrelated but I've been installing mods in KSP but KSPIE wasn't working in a way I should've just fixed but instead I just deleted them all and thought I could work it out later because I'm dumb but it's saying 'extension files' or something like that aren't installed properly, soo
1: Will this break my game and/or saves?
2: Can I fix it?
3: if not, can I just delete these 'extension files'?
Pleas help if you can, sorry this isn't related to the video in any way.
I love in one of the failed attempts Valentina's expression: "Crap crap crap crap... I'm alive? I'M ALIVE!"
1:35 "still has quite a few bugs" It wouldn't be cutting-edge KERBAL SCIENCE if it didn't.
The transformation from plane to virus mode looks really cool
That blooper reel is only second to the one Spacex released a while ago using actual rockets
The real Mr. Worldwide
Hey Scott, anyway you can post a video on a previous plane that worked? i got an update, and now all my spring strength/dampeners in my landing gear causes everything to bounce uncontrollably as soon as it renders the plane on the run way.
i think you have a bit to much thrust vectoring range enabled on that centre engine, but still very impressive.
Thanks for the video
Hey Scott I got a cool new space ship and was wondering is there a way send files for free to an individual or group?
Whenever I'm trying to land some weird contraption and I'm not sure how the thrust is going to work out, I find it is helpful to go into Mechjeb's SmartASS and set my attitude control to "UP" once I get my horizontal speed under control, so it doesn't try and flip around if I accidentally go into a hover.
Excellent
Would kRPC enable the kind of variable control mixing that a tilt wing VTOL airplane like the XC-142 would need? For example, the ailerons are ailerons in conventional mode, but they would control yaw in vertical mode. For variable wing tilt, you'd want to mix the inputs dependent on wing tilt. I did a bit-bang implementation on that years back for the Gumstix.
I'm sure it's possible.
Love the new intro.
That’s my old intro - for Kerbal
I always use SAS in Radial Out mode when I'm close the ground and want to make sure that any over thrust does not cause a flip or unwanted vector change. Looks like this may have helped in some of the failed landings :)
They REALLY need to make it possible to have a Kerbal vomit in their helmet. Especially that last attempt.
10:55 what kind of g's are they experiencing through this roll?
I got so excited because I thought this meant that the advanced fly by wire mod was finally working. apparently not .
Makes me wonder if pairs of grid fins could be added to the top and bottom of the Falcon Heavy upper stage to bring it down.
I expected to see Indiana Kerbal step out of the capsule in that last one.😁
How long did getting it into landing mode actually take? Lol
So a question. The whole belly flop maneuver that the Starship is going to do. How many G's is it going to pull when it does the flip and burn right before landing? That's going to be a crazy ride for the folks on it.
Are you using FAR to get more accurate aerodynamics or is it stock aero?