A DREAM COME TRUE: First Skate Flow with Powerslide Next & NN Dragon+
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Two desires in one setup: the Powerslide Next with a five-wheel rockered frame, the Dragon+ frame by @nnskates. I’m so glad this setup exists.
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Powerslide Next with the NN Ronin • A THING OF BEAUTY: Pow...
First Ride NN Dragon • This setup BREATHES FI...
Swivelling (Gazelles & Lions) with the NN Dragon • Getting into the Flow ...
Riding a huge bowl on the Powerslide Next + NN Trinity Ronin • You've Got to Be CRAZY...
Powerslide Next boot www.thisissoul...
🛼 MY SETUP
Boot: Powerslide Next Core Black www.powerslide...
Frame: NN Trinity Dragon+ (90-80-80-80-90) nnskates.com/p...
NN EVO Wheels 90mm 85A nnskates.com/p...
Powerslide Spinner wheels 80 mm 88A powerslide.com...
Wicked ABEC 9 bearings
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I like the cryptic touch @ 4:30
awesome setup Tim! enjoy it to the fullest! Someday I will step it up to your level! I tagged you on my new skate day!
Thank you! Just keep rolling and you'll get better every day. 💪🤘
Tim, the hardly clumsy skater. Those look sick!
Haha, thanks! 🤘🙂
excellent video, thanks a bunch for making this. helped clarify some things for me. I think I'm sold on the dragon+ as my first 5 wheel setup, I will have to pick some up soon.
Cool! I truly love that frame. So much fun.
drakarys 😄 got them too xD
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4:22 Exactly me, right now🤤. Interchanging the wheels must be a real pain with this setup !!! Already with my endless90, I apply an "wizard-interchange", 1 time in cross 1 time in parallel 🤪🤪🤪
Haha, sorry! 😄😉
Rotating the wheels is easy: most wizard skaters I know just rotate their wheels in place. Which is what I’ve been doing as well with all my rockered (and non-rockered) setups and also will do with this one. No need to make things complicated. 🤘
@@TheRollingRaptor In the case of endless90 or Ninja90 frames: If you turn them on themselves, aren't you afraid that the two middle wheels will wear out faster than the outer wheels ? And therefore end up with a flat setup, because the wear of the middle wheels compensate the 1mm rockered.
@@battemannn7375 Nah, don’t worry about that: rotating in place is even the way to go to get natural rocker into a flat setup. I did that with my first 4x90 on the Kizer Flux frame of the Next Burgundy Grey and it worked. On an already rockered setup, rotating in place even increases the rocker a bit. The reason is that your front and back wheel wear a bit more because of pushing off and stopping, for example the T-stop. :-)
After riding my FR1s with regular Dragon 5x80 frames, I'll stick with my wizard boots and frames, rollin seba sx carbon with either PR80 or NR100 at this time.
I can understand that. The regular Dragon was the first 5-wheel frame I tried and I still like riding it very much. But a 5-wheel frame on a UFS boot, certainly a carbon one, is still quite something else, certainly for swivelling. Now for me, that Trinity Dragon+ feels closer to a UFS than a 165mm frame.
Similar setup here, Hardcore Evo Trinity + NN Dragon+ and I'm absolutely in love with it. Thanks for making such an inspirational videos.
Thank _you!_ That Hardcore Evo skate piques my interest as well. Maybe something for next year. 😉
@@TheRollingRaptor Since you're interested in the Evo, have you also taken a look at the CL10 and TR10 from Iqon?
@@laidbaqq I've been eyeing those Iqon boots for a while now and they look dope, but I'm not sure whether they'd survive my clumsiness. Will that carbon cuff withstand a severe beating? Not sure about that.
@@TheRollingRaptor and David, that is the exact setup I am looking at, but can't decide between the dragon and dragon+ to go with my HC Evo 90 and Endless 90. Any opinion on dragon vs. dragon+?
@@nerdthewise Well, I'd go for the Dragon+. The ride height is practically the same, but those 90mm wheels give the Dragon+ some extra punch. 🙂
If they produced shoes that looked like the Next, I would totally buy.
Haha, totally agree! Grindshoes based on the Next, wouldn't that be awesome?
@@TheRollingRaptor It would be genius!
@@laidbaqq +1!
yup im jealous too XD
Sorry! 😅
Low ride height and good stability while being manuverable enough for wizard skating while also being fast? Looks like you have cracked the code. Something like this would be a dream setup, let's not think about the price too much...
And then there's also the Rockin' MIX5 90/80, which is even faster with its 90-80-90-80-90 setup. 😬 (Though for Trinity, the Dragon+ is the clear winner.)
Great video. The five wheels must be more stable.
Thanks, Steve! 👊 Yeah, those five wheels offer great front and back stability.
we should go skating together! clumsy skater here as well,!!!! saludosssss all the way from mexico :D
Olé! 🤘
loving the shirt also bro
Thanks, Remco! Cheers to NN Skates for sending it to me. 😊
hey Tim, with the 3x80mm wheels in the middle, does it behave in the same way as a regular 4x80 on bad surfaces? I mean, does it shake or stutter in the same way, or is it somewhat better? I am thinking about buying this or a 4x90 frame (Endless maybe). I understand it gives extra stability compared to a 4x90 frame, but I'm not sure if it's still worth it because of those small middle wheels. Thanx
It's better! One of the things I've noticed with five-wheel frames, is that they perform a lot better on rough terrain - like cobblestones or patches of bad asphalt. My conclusion is that wheelbase is more important than wheel size. A longer wheelbase allows you to put more weight on your back wheels, so you can tackle uneven terrain with more grace. And there's also a second effect: the longer wheelbase kind of evens out the roughness, neutralising the most severe stuttering. I should make a drawing to explain myself, but look at it this way: imagine a line with lots of peaks and bumps, like a cross section of a hilly landscape. Objects with a small footprint will dive into every depression and then get pushed back up. An object with a significantly larger footprint, will only ride the tops of the line, the peaks of the hills, so the stay. Its trajectory will be much smoother. That's what happens with five-wheel frames: they smooth out rough surfaces. Even a 5x72mm feels way smoother than a 4x80, precisely because of the longer wheelbase. Add bigger front wheels, like the Dragon+ or Wizard Advanced do, and you're really flying of patches of roughness.
There's one disclaimer though: very long patches of roughness will still be annoying on smaller wheels. The reason is that you need speed to tackle rough surfaces. With smaller wheels, it's more difficult to maintain speed on bumpy roads, even with a long wheelbase. A 4x110 is great for tackling extended stretches of bad road, due to the combination of wheel size and wheelbase, and a 3x125 is also great.
So, your choice kind of depends on what terrain you will mostly encounter. If you've got a _lot_ of bad road in your neighbourhood, I think a 4x90 will be a bit better. If you've got mostly good roads, a 5x80 (or something alike) will do fine. Just make some speed and you'll fly over the bad parts.
Hey there - 1st off, thanks for your videos. Your love of the stuff is really fun to watch and also inspiring! You're helping me decide on my NN dragon frames.
I have a question for you though! I've only ever skated 4x80, but I really want to get into more flow/wizard skating - hopefully without sacrificing simple easy riding around town (and not forcing me into a super technically challenging boot). I'd love to do a 5x rocker frame, but I'm struggling to choose between 5x80 dragon and 5x90/80 dragon+. How would you choose between the 2?
Thanks again!
Thank you for your nice words! Much appreciated. 😊
The Dragon+ is definitely my favourite. It somehow feels faster _and_ more fun than the regular Dragon. That could partly be due to the boot, though. I’m riding my Dragons on the FR1, so that’s a 165mm mount. My Dragon+ frames are mounted on the Powerslide Next, which uses the Trinity system. Therefore, the Dragon+ is lower to the ground. And I seem to feel the difference: I’ve got more control and can accelerate quicker on the Trinity setup. I seem to pick my Next Dragon+ setup sooner than the FR1 Dragon.
But to be clear: the regular Dragon _is_ a lot of fun as well. And there’s no hassle with finding the right wheels. It’s also got a nicer price than its bigger brother. I like both setups for wizard and urban skating. I even ride big bowls with those frames. I guess you’re going to have to watch some videos and let your gut feeling (and wallet) decide which frame you like best. 😉
@@TheRollingRaptor Just had to let you know I ended up ordering the dragon+ thanks to your vids and inspo! Supposed to arrive today... I cannot wait. Please keep making videos, they are delightful
@@willrus495 Oooh! That's awesome to hear. You'll love them. But do let me know how you find those frames. 👍
I've got a lot of videos coming up and am recording new videos faster than I can edit them. I definitely have to make another one with the Dragon+ too. In the meantime, I'm thinking of making a big compilation video with all my existing footage featuring that frame. Could be fun!
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Can you elaborate more on the advanced vs dragon?
The Advanced feels a little more swivelly than the Dragon+, but also heavier. Riding the Advanced, you've got to mind your crossovers, because _wheelcatch_ is a reality with those big 100mm front and back wheels. The Dragon+ feels faster too me. The 90mm front and back wheels provide extra stability, but are not as tricky as the 100mm wheels of the Advanced. The Advanced really is aimed at Wizard skating, whereas I like the Dragon+ a lot for all kinds of urban skating - riding stairs, jumping gaps, and the occasional transition, of course with some swivelling in between.
Is that the kind of elaboration you were hoping for? 🙂
@@TheRollingRaptor eccellent,, thank you, ill get the dragon +
@@bladespeedwagon2540 You won’t regret it. I did an epic 8 hour long urban skate sesh with the Dragon+ two days ago and it was just marvellous. :-)
Where in the EU can you get this? Thx for an informative video
I bought mine on the This Is Soul webshop: www.thisissoul.com/collections/frames/products/nn-trinity-dragon-90-80-334mm-natural
Thanks for the nice words!
Please elaborate more on the rocker. You described it as "more accessible". Does that mean it's less rockered compared to the Wizards?
I think the Wizard Advanced has a little bit more rocker, but I'm not entirely sure about that. What I'm mostly referring to, are the wheel sizes. The 100-80-80-80-100 configuration of the Advanced really is a bit weird, with the front wheel coming higher than your toes. (Also thanks to the UFS mounting.) With its 344mm wheelbase, it's even longer than the Dragon+. That length and wheel setup take some getting used to, while the Dragon+ is easier to get into.
@@TheRollingRaptor Gotcha! I'm just a newb so this is very helpful. The big end 100s on Wizards seems to make sense if you're a high level skater like Leon who tears over all terrains and does beautiful toe drags. I'm seriously considering this exact setup, especially with the NN sale right now-free set of wheels is a huge plus.
@@uu3903 Yeah, free wheels certainly are a great deal! And believe me, a new world of skating is going to open up for you. It'll feel like magic on your feet.
I got back into inline skates last year and picked up some craptacular K2s for $25. But after rolling around I have felt my feet were sort of glued down. As the summer went on they got naturally slightly rockered from wheel wear. But spins and transitions got easier. For this winter I wanted to keep skating so I bought hockey skates and got to feel the power of a true rocker. I know it is not the same but rocker is rocker. Holy crap that is what I have been looking for. So I for sure need to get some good inlines for next year. I think bang for buck these Dragon + seem like the way to go. Thinking of FR1 or FR2 boots because I have freak wide feet. How are the powerslide boots for width?
Oh yeah, transitioning from a flat to a rockered setup is something you won't easily forget. That first time feels like magic, eh? :-)
The FR1 or 2 with the Dragon+ sounds like a killer setup! Those boots indeed are comfy. For me, the Powerslide Next is comfortable as well, but I haven't got very wide feet. And with my EU size 42, my feet fit nicely in the Next 42-43. Some people do complain about pressure points in the Next, though. If you've got the chance: try the fit before ordering a pair of skates.
@@TheRollingRaptor For the FR skates is the intuition liner worth it or no? Also have you tried ice skating with hockey skates? I have been practicing wizard basics on them and it finally is translating into smoother movement.
@@infinityphotorob Hmm, I’m not entirely convinced by the FR Intuition. I mean, it sure is a good liner, but it’s not the V2 or Intuition Premium. The “regular” FR liner also feels great. However, in my EU 42 FR1, I felt quite a lot of pressure on the back of my ankles with the stock liner. I don’t have that problem with the FR Intuition liner. So that’s definitely an advantage. (I’m now using my 42 FR liners in my EU size 43 FR3 skates: maximum comfort!)
And yes, I’m skating on ice with hockey knives mounted under my old fitness skates. :-) Ice skating is great for practising wizard moves. Here’s a video I recorders last year, when there was a short, sharp shock of winter: ruclips.net/video/CYizIlLK8Bs/видео.htmlsi=0zDs6n0VRaAPEnDB
Did you ever get the right foot pressure point problem with the Next boot?
Nope, never happened. My feet fit perfectly alright in the Next. A week and a half ago I hurt my left foot while mountainboarding. It’s still a bit swollen, but yesterday I rode my new Next No War, with a liner that’s barely broken in, and even that was painless. Of course, I’m lucky: I’ve a big EU size 42 (268mm) and my Next boots are EU 42-43. So it fits neither too tight nor too roomy.
How would you say these compare to the endless arc
The Endless ARC are of course a bit shorter and lower to the ground. The Dragon+ is faster and more stable, the ARC is more swivelly while still pretty fast. What I like a lot about the ARC, is that I can do swivels at pretty high speeds. But the Dragon+ feels like a frame that can shred any surface. I very much like its flow.
@@TheRollingRaptor thanks mate
What do you prefer: NN Dragon+ or Endless Arc?
Still have to mount and try the ARC. But I think they’ll be quite different.
Hi mate, between the wizard advanced and the nn dragon + which one is more manoeuvrable ? Also does the longer frame makes it less manoeuvrable than the dragon or the pr80?
The Dragon+ feels slightly more manoeuvrable, I guess because it's a little lighter and shorter, and probably has a bit more rocker. But it's very, very subtle. It certainly feels more elegant since it hasn't got those big 100mm wheels in the front and the back. The Dragon+ doesn't feel less manoeuvrable than the Dragon or a PR80: after all, it's only 1cm longer than a regular 5x80. And with my Trinity Dragon+ I actually have more control than with my 165mm Dragon, so swivelling feels even easier and safer.
@@TheRollingRaptor thank a lot man!!! Keep doing the reviews, nice work 👍🏽
Hello sir! Do you think this frame/setup would be okay with a size EU40 boot or do you think that this frame would be too big?
Hmm, this ain't easy to answer. Depends on your experience, I guess. I don't believe a frame can be "too long" - I'm even riding a six-wheel frame and I know people with smaller feet than mine (EU 42) who ride 5x90. So if you commit, it should be doable.
However, I also like shorter five-wheel frames, like a 5x76 or so. Now, NN Skates has got smaller versions of their Dragon frame, but _not_ for the Trinity system. You can of course just go for the regular NN Dragon (5x80). That one's big fun too!
@@TheRollingRaptor I appreciate the response sir! I am still a newbie when it comes to Wizard so I guess I’ll go with the 5x80 dragon for now then just go longer once I’m proficient with my swivels. Thank you so much!
@@vinoski1364 Good choice!
As someone looking to get into rockered frames, would you recommend these?
I'm inclined to say: yeah, sure, go for it! But I want to be careful as well. You see, my first rockered frame was a 4x100 (the NN Ronin), then I tried a 4x90 (Endless 90) and only then did I ride my first five-wheel frame (the NN Dragon). That Dragon frame felt awesome and I liked it immediately, but I don't know how it feels to go from flat to a rockered five-wheel frame in one go. It'll probably be great, but I can't be totally sure. Still, I'm enjoying those Dragon+ frames so much, I think other people will like 'em as well. They're just loads of fun.
Looks great! I've been considering those frames, this makes me want to try them!
I'm not sure yet whether to go for the dragon or the dragon + frame, does foot size come into it?
Coz mine are only 250mm or size 40 EU, and I'll be riding FR1's.
Dammit I just saw your video on the Wizard Advanced frames..
Aww man..
Hmmm, yeah, good question. If you were my size, I'd say: go for the Dragon+, but now, I'm not so sure. Maybe the regular Dragon is a safer choice for your foot size? It's a good idea to reach out to NN Skates and ask what they think, I'm sure they'll gladly provide more information.
Haha, that crash, you mean? Yeah, lost some skin on the fingers holding the selfiestick, but nothing really bad. Good footage, that's what counts. 😉
@@TheRollingRaptor no no, well.. That too 😜, but I mean it's a difficult choice between the Wizard Advanced and the Dragon frame, also I'm not in any way advanced on any swively Wizard stuff? even tho I mainly skate the NR100.
I'm more of a general urban skater who likes to jump a bit and try the swively moves. Maybe the advanced makes it easier?
Is the Dragon frame more of an all rounder?
@@Johro66 For urban skating, I'd rather go for the Dragon+ (or Dragon) than the Advanced. It's still a nimble frame that allows for all kinds of swivelling, but it hasn't got those big front and back wheels that can get in the way when doing crossovers. The Advanced feels more nimble, but that doesn't necessarily make wizard moves easier - you still have to control them, right. The Dragon+ is indeed more of an all-rounder than the Advanced. The Advanced is more focused on tricks, while the Dragon+ is great for exploring the urban environment. To me, the Dragon+ also felt faster (probably because the rocker is a bit more subtle).
Since you don't want to sell them, just give them to me! Now!
Thanks for watching! 😅
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