I enjoy when the experts criticize something but also acknowledge when a character is supposed to be capable of feats beyond normal people. It's a more interesting discussion than simple "not realistic" and gives more depth to the topic of analysis. I like hearing about how difficult or impossible some of the feats are.
Yeah. Like, the biggest thing I've seen with "Experts react to Witcher" is always saying it's not realistic or that it's not optimal to do something like that, but they never take into the context the game and/or character. Like, Geralt is a mutant with superhuman strength/speed/endurance, even stronger senses, and extremely intelligent. Don't know lore wise but in the 3rd game he can decapitate a flipping Griffin or a bear in a single swing. Like sure the spinning is unnecessary and deflecting arrows is probably not optimal compared to just dodging but from what I understand I think Geralt shows off on purpose from time to time and the choreographers/developers have to make it look cool and engaging as well. If he is capable of doing so, what's the harm in making him do so.
@MinecraftPro15 well with the way witchers are trained, there wouldn't be any poorly trained witchers, they'd be dead before they ever finished their training. But I get your point
This is the best kind of analysis video I've seen. The experts aren't just saying 'that's stupid no one would do that', they're saying 'we couldn't do that, but they're doing it to show that he's special'. Completely non-ego and showing an understanding of not only the art, but the production. Awesome!
They are no more experts in these instances than someone who practices akido. Fencing and sword fighting are similar, but only in the weapon they are using. To say that a competition shooter and a Soldier are the same is wildly inaccurate.
Henry Cavill said that the sword's blade was broken in half to move smoothly through the fight choreography and the remaining section was computer generated. Took days to make that scene.
True I remember that, otherwise it would be way too hard to pull the moves off, but it also requires a totally different level of choreography and acting just fighting with half a blade.
If you shoot a crossbow at somebody you are above and beyond to stop trying to fighting that person. Now it is you and he/she, or you can try to run away which makes your chances far more worst unless there are other people to cover your running away.
The first bolt I could consider “hmm, maybe he got lucky?” But after killing a dude and just comboing into deflecting the second bolt is probably when I would throw my shit down and run.
@@daltontaylor8830 in the book it was only 1 shot. And in the book Geralt's thoughts was smth like "i blocked arrows shot by the bow but never got lucky to try block bolt shot by the crossbow" and there was described that crossbow has much more power and bolt is much faster then arrow
Pirouette. I think pirouette gives them advantage of speed and as a tool to confuse enemy since the movement of spinning is just harder to track for the untrained
@@akmalrusydi2730 spinning leaves you vulnerable every time you do it, while it adds speed and power behind your swing it’s a deal of high risk high reward
@@Bro1212_ for a human. Which witchers ain't. For them spinning attacks aren't high risk, just because of the speed. Yeah, normal dude would get stabbed nine times if he was dumb enough to turn his back on his enemy. But when witcher spins at you - you're lucky if you see a blur before your body is halved in length. Also, there's a very plausible explanation as to why they actually spin like that. Their fighting style is effective against humans, but it's primarily meant to fight monsters. And since many monsters have skin tougher than armour, it's a matter of life and death to squeeze out as much momentum out of your attacks as possible.
Witchers don't just fight, they "dance", which is why they always spin and jump around. Sounding like that it might feels kinda weird but that's the most witcher thing ever and that NEEDED to be done right in the show Toss a coin to your witcher as always...
@@petitecaptain8525 yep. They have to be super nimble to deal with monsters that outclass humans and even Witchers. They use the twirls of their sword to block their blind sides against when they are getting swarmed.
They're also faster so they can perform those moves and build up more momentum in the strikes that they deal. They don't really have to worry about normal humans if they fight them.
Geralts fencing style, which utilizes classic dance and gymnastics along with swordsmanship, emphasizes mobility and athletics and only works because of how physically superior he actually is to normal men and women and I think that’s the point. His fencing style has been optimized to match his level of strength and speed so all of those fancy albeit impractical maneuvers actually make sense where he’s concerned. After all, he’s normally fighting things much larger and stronger than he is so he has to be able move and react. Also, I’d say a full size two-handed longsword probably feels like thin cardboard to him so those maneuvers have to be fairly simple and easy for Geralt as well lol. Those barrel-rolls, breakfalls, and pirouettes weren’t designed for human sized foes and are instead used to evade and navigate around monsters that are considerably bigger and more dangerous than any normal human could handle. Unfortunately, those maneuvers aren’t nearly as useful when fighting humans however lol. Of course, that’s the in-universe explanation while in reality it just looks badass lol.
@@Corethegamer007 Wasn't it told in witcher 3 by Vesemir that Geralt is nearing 100? That would mean that in the show he is considerably younger, since all of the games take place chronologically later in his life.
@@Corethegamer007 a bit late, but he is just a bit younger, as Ciri in games may be what? 20? and Cintra was conquered when she was 12. 8 years is not much of a difference for 90 year old.
@@geraltofrivia8529 stopping the arrow is one thing, sending it back at the shooter with your sword isn't physically possible with someone who's main power is just human capabilities x10.
Odin :I mean yeah we can flip mountains but we are immortal tho it would be pointless to fight. Zeus : I can't hit my sons tho thats videogame villiany. Loki :Guys pleas stop making me asshole in everygame.
wow i really liked these two! it's nice to have experts who are not overly critical. especially historical or martial arts related experts, who tend to be a lot less forgiving of stage and narrative choices at the expense of realism. these guy really just seemed to enjoy applying their expertise to something without losing the enjoyment factor of the content. definitely my favorite kind of expert!
I've watched that fight like four times and this is the first time I saw the second crossbow bolt and literally only because you guys pointed it out and then slowed it down AND THEN highlighted the bolt. my visual acuity is, like, zero lmao. this was a truly excellent video and I love how contagious their excitement was! it was great seeing experts weigh in on improvements to the scene and breaking down the moves (also shoutout to the behind-camera person who asked what parry 6 was because same lol)
One also has to take into account that Geralt is about 80 years (?) old at that time and that he was practicing this swordfighting for his whole life, so appart from the Mutation, it is also part of his life. Swordfighting might even be a manner to him at that point.
I've been fencing in competition for 8 years of my life and over those years I've found that using reverse grip works best when you get in extremely close and treat the sword like a dagger but also use it in a way where you very aggressively push your opponents blade out of the way. It works, if you practice and understand in what ways it works.
You need to watch The Witcher killing monster trailers to see how fast they're actually moving when they're doing their spins this is the blink of an eye type shit there is no stopping him from behind because he's spinning because your eyes are still closed cuz you're blinking and then you're dead what years are fast
I'mma disagree with a thing. First, just awesome, love the video, I always enjoy it when people can point out the issues without being down on the show, and these guys are great. But in reference to sword and dagger being impractical. When I did historical fencing, sword and dagger was my absolute favourite combination. You mention that having both is an issue because you're trying to fight on two fronts, but that's exactly why I preferred it. For fencing, we primarily used rapiers, which for those who don't know are long and moderately heavy one handed swords. The best thing for me was to also use a dagger, for two reasons of equal import. One, parrying. The dagger is all forte (strong part, means it's harder to beat it aside) which gives me the ability to parry any angle my rapier wasn't covering, often with even more success. Secondly, and my favourite thing. If I'm fighting someone with just a rapier, I can use my to sort of lock in, pushing as close as I can and keeping my guard on their blade, then stab them anywhere I want. I know rapiers are different to longswords, but if anything I think this would be even more useful with one. The rapier is a much slower weapon than any longsword I've used.
Agreed, you are entirely correct. And they are a good complement to a longsword or arming sword, of you use them properly. There was a reason Sword and Dagger was incredibly popular, but you need to know you to use them together, which these guys don't. When used together, the sword is primary attacker, with the dagger supporting, looking for a cross (contact with the enemy blade) with the dagger moving to support. You can then free your sword to attach with it and leave the dagger behind, meaning the enemy's sword is not able to be used as you have the dagger to bind and block the sword. Also the dagger is used primarily defensively, only offensively when the person closes to grapple or short distance, you don't try to hang it out there and use it. Other big advantage is you can uncross the dagger and sword (with 2 long weapons, if you try to move them passed each other onto other lines, the weapons get tangled. not so with a long weapon and a dagger).
@@meyr1992 No, I'm talking historical fencing. This is actual swordplay used in dueling with nobles and the like, with lives on the line. I think you'll find competitive fencing doesn't allow a dagger. But a dagger adds so much to your repetoire. Swords are unwieldy when they get closer, daggers are designed for that. Add the enormous control a dagger will give you over an opponents sword, and you're set. I explained everything in detail in my full one, so I won't repeat myself, but yes. Important part, I was talking about swordplay where survival is the only goal.
sigh....read the books...they did these short stories dirty with the adaptation. i still appreciate that it exists and brings it into mainstream culture but damn did they butcher some of these stories....
@@ipraytovodka. The majority of the audience is from the games, so for most it doesn’t matter how true it is to the books. I’d let the team have artistic freedom with their adaptation. The choreography and story is still amazing
@@ipraytovodka not just side stories. Main theme is destiny, everyone is talking about destiny and in whole season one it ends with only talking about destiny. For me whole main theme is so shallow that you couldn't even remember it if they didn't talk about it every few minutes. I can't feel the destiny betwen Geralt and Ciri. For me it's just another fantasy series from hollywood that besides characters has nothing to do with books.
@@amandeepbaghiana4510 it matters when it is an adaptation of the book,not the video game. Witcher series is based on the book,not the video game, so being faithful to the source material matyers
I appreciate both of these guys demeanor and knowledge. On other episodes there is always one commenter trying to be louder than the other. You can also tell how skilled they both are!
I feel like, having been familiar with this first from the games where it's a noodle incident as opposed to the minor skirmish the show portrays it as, the show does an awesome job showing how much more capable/powerful than an ordinary human a Witcher is in how effortlessly Geralt cuts down the force arrayed against him.
While there's no doubt that these fencers know their stuff about swordsmanship But,due to the weapons and time period, I think HEMA practitioners would have been a better choice
In book it is almost a blur when is fighting in melee because of the speed, make sense because he is a mutant. In the show it was bit slowed down but still looks really fast.
Geralt of netflix series blocking an arrow using his sword: " i'm so cool " Geralt in video games: " You're cool with that? (Blocks an arrow using aard sign) tsk,pathetic "
I feel like gameology should be more informative about the games shown In the case of the witcher the reason Geralt fights that way is because it's interpreted in the book he has a dancing like fighting style both the author and CD Project Red depict this. I believe Gamology should do research into the games and inform the experts to compare in their line of work
They are analyzing if its realistic or feasible or not, being mutant or sword "dancing"/is irrelevant, seems many people complain about they not having context yet the same people who complain seem to not understand they analyze it under the context of realism a and feasibility
@@alexmag342 what the experts did in this video is great, they understood that it's a tv show, and that he is mutated, and moved on past that, to criticize the movement, possibility, feat if it was in a realistic scenario without trashing/nitpicking everything. That should be how every Gameology video goes, unlike the zombie expert, doctor and those female marines...
@@sain1536 I'm fine with trashing and "nitpicking" , and the only ones I have seen taking it too serious were the female war correspondents in their first video.
i think this is my favorite one of these and ive seen at least every vid of this fight breakdown in particular but its nice that they actually enjoy it and realize the fantasy outside of the general realism
1:05 that offhand block of a crossbow bolt goes unnoticed most of the time, but I love the detail that the second shot is as inconsequential as the first.
I much like this video more than the other sword expert reacting to the scene a few months back, who criticized his swordplay harshly and didn't know Geralt is highly mutated with about 90+ yrs of experience in fighting/swordplay to boot 😅.
As I remember Geralts style of fighting has dancing on it I dont know what its called but the reasom why he does the consecutive spins because he uses the spin for the next blow to be more powerful thats why he spins left to right and it comes with a risk of exposing your back...Im glad they analyzed it great here and they have an idea what geraly is and what he can do
"Sword experts" dont realise that geralt using a bastard sword like you would a basket hilted broad or back sword. In italian terms, its all about that dui tempo riposte. As people have mentioned its far better explained in other media, but it visually well created here. The idea is that the witcher can use his super human speed and his dancing stylento engage multiple opponents. When effectively splits his dui tempo riposte into two seperate fights, going for a contra tempo thrust against a second opponent, and then completing the circle into stesso tempo parry and second riposte against his first opponent who will likely be in the middle or second riposte step of their own dui tempo parry of his riposte. Noting that all these terms would never be applied to the polish sabre style that this is supposed to be based on, but I don't know what they would call it.
Yes, well, Italian is probably the most developed of the languages when it comes to Historical fencing, as they use a standard terminology across multiple systems with a quite broad lexicon to be able to describe actions. I also think a dagger would be a better comparison for how hes using the sword in this fight. He's in close quarters, so can;t use the full length of the blade, so putting into a reverse grip allows the use it almost as a dagger in a "ice pick" grip, which also explains why most of use time is duo tempi, as it is effectively a shorter weapon. He's also using a grappling and wrestling effectively, as he is often using his off hand to grapple and move his opponents. They really should have got the HEMA guys back, they were much more knowledgeable.
Its nice to see one of these where they acknowledge the superhuman nature of the hero and not just "oh thats unrealistic" like everyone doesn't know already
If you're going to keep bringing the fencing guys in for swordfighting scenes, why not do it with sword fights that are closer to what they actually do? Just saying, stuff like The Count of Monte Cristo, The Mask of Zorro, The Musketeer, The Princess Bride, etc are all far closer to the Olympic-style fencing these two do than anything you've brought them on for so far, and their commentary towards those fights would probably be far more knowledgeable and interesting...just a thought
I think it's so cool that they could easily criticize this for being over the top, but they instead recognize it while also saying, "but it was really cool to watch and he's a mutant so he can get away with that stuff." Too many people look for ultra-realism in stuff like this. This was a super cool breakdown of how someone could actually pull off a lot of these moves, how this translates to real life, while also recognizing the ability of the choreographers and the actors performing this scene, and just how awesome it was to watch! Awesome video, thanks for making this, it was cool :)
It's nice that they take a realistic approach to these scenes from fantasy shows/games. Some people would just say "Oh that's not possible." but they recognize that Geralt is a Witcher, so he has abilities, strength and stamina above normal humans
Wow ive watched this scene countless times, constantly rewinding spots of the fight over and over and I never noticed the 2nd crossbow block. I did wonder a few times why the half elf was still holding the crossbow when Geralt made it to his location since he had plenty of time to reload and to drop said crossbow and draw a sword. Thanks guys I appreciate this fight even more now than I did before.
These guys are sport fencers and stage fighters. They know the epee, foil, saber as part of Olympic fencing and fighting safely on camera. They are not experts on historical fighting with a longsword/bastard sword as taught by Liechtenauer, Meyer, Talhoffer, Fiore, etc. You need your HEMA guys for that.
Eye opening. I was on the point of seeing fencers as practitioners of a sport, with some conection to realistic melee action, but not that much. They're really taking this apart and go beyond fencing. Really impressed here.
Actually, if someone has been reading the books, Gerald rarely deflects arrows, and even if he does, except for one moment at almost the end of the sagam he manages to deflect two consecutives arrows, followed by him saying that it will very much never happen again...
@@nightquill5647 Yes and no. He has more reflexes than a regular huma, besides of that the witchers develop a keen perception through the earlys stages of their training regime, witch they keep developing without stoping. But there's a limit to how much they could pay atention in a battle and in witch details will they focus more... Sure, if Geralt is by himself against a not so large group like the one in the video (with only 1 or 2 archers) he could pull it out maybe once or two, but that consumes mental energy, and if he keeps like that eventually will exhaust himself and lose (something that happens quite a lot in the books). Remember that he's no overpowered mc, he COULD AND WILL get killed in any moment if he tires a lot or f**ks up...
@@nightquill5647 Oh yeah, with enough time to focus between movements its easy to Geralt to do it, besides in this scene the enemies are using crossbows, witch gives him more time to prepare or counteratack them. But put Gerald (even with friends in arms) against a hole squad of soldiers and a bunch of archers with bows in it and surely he will say "F**k..." xD
Ignacio Calcagno it took like a few stabs for each and he was moving pretty slow with them they were obviously some hired bandits with zero sword skill
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I enjoy when the experts criticize something but also acknowledge when a character is supposed to be capable of feats beyond normal people. It's a more interesting discussion than simple "not realistic" and gives more depth to the topic of analysis. I like hearing about how difficult or impossible some of the feats are.
I love when they actally give the real life example, like these guys or Chris the cop do, they give amazing insight on the subject.
Yh i like when they can get behind it like well while normal humans couldn’t do it but if we could it would be effective
Yeah. Like, the biggest thing I've seen with "Experts react to Witcher" is always saying it's not realistic or that it's not optimal to do something like that, but they never take into the context the game and/or character. Like, Geralt is a mutant with superhuman strength/speed/endurance, even stronger senses, and extremely intelligent. Don't know lore wise but in the 3rd game he can decapitate a flipping Griffin or a bear in a single swing. Like sure the spinning is unnecessary and deflecting arrows is probably not optimal compared to just dodging but from what I understand I think Geralt shows off on purpose from time to time and the choreographers/developers have to make it look cool and engaging as well. If he is capable of doing so, what's the harm in making him do so.
@MinecraftPro15 well with the way witchers are trained, there wouldn't be any poorly trained witchers, they'd be dead before they ever finished their training. But I get your point
Therapist reacts to people who strive to be like Tony Stark not knowing he was bio-engineered to be smart.
Good thing they're aware Geralt is mutated
Fernando unlike the doctors reacting to The Last Of Us
@@agentsnake2780 Or unlike the Hema experts reacting to The Witcher 3
I said this in the last video I think lol. When They reacted to the game haha
@@themoofs6925 Not likely because when they reacted to the game they knew nothing about Geralt or a Witcher
Fernando sorry I worded that badly. I meant I pointed out if they had knowledge of him being a mutant or not. (At the time.)
This is the best kind of analysis video I've seen. The experts aren't just saying 'that's stupid no one would do that', they're saying 'we couldn't do that, but they're doing it to show that he's special'.
Completely non-ego and showing an understanding of not only the art, but the production. Awesome!
So deep.
They are no more experts in these instances than someone who practices akido. Fencing and sword fighting are similar, but only in the weapon they are using. To say that a competition shooter and a Soldier are the same is wildly inaccurate.
@@johnboylan3832fr just watch the vid and chill everybody gotta essay to leave behind.😂
Henry Cavill said that the sword's blade was broken in half to move smoothly through the fight choreography and the remaining section was computer generated. Took days to make that scene.
True I remember that, otherwise it would be way too hard to pull the moves off, but it also requires a totally different level of choreography and acting just fighting with half a blade.
He practiced for month for that scene with a master swordsman.
Totally makes sense, doing that scene right was a huge milestone for the series and showed it had some chops. No pun intended
Henry cavil does a great job as Garalt.
If I shoot a crossbow at somebody and he blocks it? Yeah, I don’t think ima try and fight him
id definitely give up on reloading LMFAO
If you shoot a crossbow at somebody you are above and beyond to stop trying to fighting that person. Now it is you and he/she, or you can try to run away which makes your chances far more worst unless there are other people to cover your running away.
The first bolt I could consider “hmm, maybe he got lucky?” But after killing a dude and just comboing into deflecting the second bolt is probably when I would throw my shit down and run.
@@daltontaylor8830 in the book it was only 1 shot. And in the book Geralt's thoughts was smth like "i blocked arrows shot by the bow but never got lucky to try block bolt shot by the crossbow" and there was described that crossbow has much more power and bolt is much faster then arrow
Reminds me of Caleb's enemy running away after shooting him. ruclips.net/video/X8TfzFTM5Ys/видео.html
In The Witcher books, Geralts style is defined as a lot of spins.
@Sam H a quite deadly one
Pirouette. I think pirouette gives them advantage of speed and as a tool to confuse enemy since the movement of spinning is just harder to track for the untrained
@@akmalrusydi2730 spinning leaves you vulnerable every time you do it, while it adds speed and power behind your swing it’s a deal of high risk high reward
@@Bro1212_ for a human. Which witchers ain't. For them spinning attacks aren't high risk, just because of the speed. Yeah, normal dude would get stabbed nine times if he was dumb enough to turn his back on his enemy. But when witcher spins at you - you're lucky if you see a blur before your body is halved in length.
Also, there's a very plausible explanation as to why they actually spin like that. Their fighting style is effective against humans, but it's primarily meant to fight monsters. And since many monsters have skin tougher than armour, it's a matter of life and death to squeeze out as much momentum out of your attacks as possible.
@@endlessnoodle3056 ahhh i didn’t know that, and yea I guess your right about the human thinf
Bro them putting the swords so close to their throats is giving me anxiety.
Yeah like i know they’re probably blunt but the anxiety is still there
@@dioyabitch1378 they're not blunt they're fake lol
uku nah bro those are blunt swords.
@@dioyabitch1378 you sure?
uku 90% sure, they’re shiny and they clang.
Tyler got absolutely assassinated by that nerf dart at the end
Ewan McGregor reacts to other people having the high ground
Keanu reeves to other people named john
*visible confusion*
Brad Pitt reacts to ppl eating
Soarise Ronan reacts to ppl pronouncing her name
Impossible
James Earl Jones reacts to other people screaming NOOOOO!!!
I was one of Ryan’s first students when he started. Glad to see he is moving up in the world.
Walt Disney nah
3d artists react to halo infinite
Yeah
@@samsonic6320 halo infinite mod in Minecraft turns out having no difference from the original game
Wss it scary?
Witchers don't just fight, they "dance", which is why they always spin and jump around. Sounding like that it might feels kinda weird but that's the most witcher thing ever and that NEEDED to be done right in the show
Toss a coin to your witcher as always...
From my understanding the Witchers are taught first to dance and then how to swordfight
@@petitecaptain8525 yep. They have to be super nimble to deal with monsters that outclass humans and even Witchers.
They use the twirls of their sword to block their blind sides against when they are getting swarmed.
They're also faster so they can perform those moves and build up more momentum in the strikes that they deal. They don't really have to worry about normal humans if they fight them.
O vally of plenty
A valley o’ plenty
I really like how they acted out the scenes. I think it made it easier for us and then to determine how those would play out.
yeah really cool!
I love how they have swords to demonstrate, I wish more sword expert film/game breakdowns were like that.
Geralts fencing style, which utilizes classic dance and gymnastics along with swordsmanship, emphasizes mobility and athletics and only works because of how physically superior he actually is to normal men and women and I think that’s the point. His fencing style has been optimized to match his level of strength and speed so all of those fancy albeit impractical maneuvers actually make sense where he’s concerned. After all, he’s normally fighting things much larger and stronger than he is so he has to be able move and react. Also, I’d say a full size two-handed longsword probably feels like thin cardboard to him so those maneuvers have to be fairly simple and easy for Geralt as well lol. Those barrel-rolls, breakfalls, and pirouettes weren’t designed for human sized foes and are instead used to evade and navigate around monsters that are considerably bigger and more dangerous than any normal human could handle. Unfortunately, those maneuvers aren’t nearly as useful when fighting humans however lol. Of course, that’s the in-universe explanation while in reality it just looks badass lol.
Please have the other two guys react to Ghost of Tsushima again, but this time with other footage, since the game is now released.
I would rather have an actual Kendo master to react to Ghost of Tsushima than these 2 swordsmen
Fajar Ponco hes talking about the two kendo specialists from the Ghost of Tsushima trailer reaction
I think they're working on it. I saw them post something about it asking for more games for them to react to and they mentioned Ghost of Tsushima
@@robin9031 isn't one of them is a kenjutsu ?
I would like to see that. The games been out for awhile now.
I mean geralt is almost 100 years old so of course he’s a master swordsman
nope....more like half that
@@ipraytovodka no look it up google says he’s 94 years old
@@Corethegamer007 Wasn't it told in witcher 3 by Vesemir that Geralt is nearing 100? That would mean that in the show he is considerably younger, since all of the games take place chronologically later in his life.
@@stcsuntzucreed ah yes that’s fair I forgot for a second that this geralt is much younger then the one in the games
@@Corethegamer007 a bit late, but he is just a bit younger, as Ciri in games may be what? 20? and Cintra was conquered when she was 12. 8 years is not much of a difference for 90 year old.
"block a bolt", I remember in the game with the right skill equip Geralt can even deflect the bolt back to the shooter.
With double damage and perfect accuracy because he's just special that way
The archer in the new Robin hood film can catch arrows and fire them back irl. Makes sense a super mutant could deflect arrows with no problem.
@@geraltofrivia8529 stopping the arrow is one thing, sending it back at the shooter with your sword isn't physically possible with someone who's main power is just human capabilities x10.
@@myname7937 "artistic licence"
The game would get a bit slow if melee characters had to chase after all the ranged scum characters that appear.
@@geraltofrivia8529 I'm not saying it shouldn't be in the game, but noone should think geralt can actually canonically do something like that.
Holy shit they actually knew the context of the scene and the powers of the characters here. That’s a first
Do gods reacts to Kratos killing gods.
Odin :I mean yeah we can flip mountains but we are immortal tho it would be pointless to fight.
Zeus : I can't hit my sons tho thats videogame villiany.
Loki :Guys pleas stop making me asshole in everygame.
Emphasis on the lower case g their
Hades: "Thats not real, i don't have nails attached to my body or even a fiery head"
Oh Jesus
@@Jack_26 Actually Odin, as well as all Norse gods, was not immortal, they could still be killed (i.e. Baldur)
wow i really liked these two!
it's nice to have experts who are not overly critical. especially historical or martial arts related experts, who tend to be a lot less forgiving of stage and narrative choices at the expense of realism.
these guy really just seemed to enjoy applying their expertise to something without losing the enjoyment factor of the content. definitely my favorite kind of expert!
I've watched that fight like four times and this is the first time I saw the second crossbow bolt and literally only because you guys pointed it out and then slowed it down AND THEN highlighted the bolt. my visual acuity is, like, zero lmao. this was a truly excellent video and I love how contagious their excitement was! it was great seeing experts weigh in on improvements to the scene and breaking down the moves (also shoutout to the behind-camera person who asked what parry 6 was because same lol)
“How would you fight with a Cleaver like that?”
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Those sword experts looked exactly they way I pictured they would.
Like nerds?
One also has to take into account that Geralt is about 80 years (?) old at that time and that he was practicing this swordfighting for his whole life, so appart from the Mutation, it is also part of his life. Swordfighting might even be a manner to him at that point.
I've been fencing in competition for 8 years of my life and over those years I've found that using reverse grip works best when you get in extremely close and treat the sword like a dagger but also use it in a way where you very aggressively push your opponents blade out of the way. It works, if you practice and understand in what ways it works.
You need to watch The Witcher killing monster trailers to see how fast they're actually moving when they're doing their spins this is the blink of an eye type shit there is no stopping him from behind because he's spinning because your eyes are still closed cuz you're blinking and then you're dead what years are fast
I'mma disagree with a thing.
First, just awesome, love the video, I always enjoy it when people can point out the issues without being down on the show, and these guys are great.
But in reference to sword and dagger being impractical.
When I did historical fencing, sword and dagger was my absolute favourite combination. You mention that having both is an issue because you're trying to fight on two fronts, but that's exactly why I preferred it. For fencing, we primarily used rapiers, which for those who don't know are long and moderately heavy one handed swords. The best thing for me was to also use a dagger, for two reasons of equal import.
One, parrying. The dagger is all forte (strong part, means it's harder to beat it aside) which gives me the ability to parry any angle my rapier wasn't covering, often with even more success.
Secondly, and my favourite thing. If I'm fighting someone with just a rapier, I can use my to sort of lock in, pushing as close as I can and keeping my guard on their blade, then stab them anywhere I want.
I know rapiers are different to longswords, but if anything I think this would be even more useful with one. The rapier is a much slower weapon than any longsword I've used.
Agreed, you are entirely correct. And they are a good complement to a longsword or arming sword, of you use them properly.
There was a reason Sword and Dagger was incredibly popular, but you need to know you to use them together, which these guys don't. When used together, the sword is primary attacker, with the dagger supporting, looking for a cross (contact with the enemy blade) with the dagger moving to support. You can then free your sword to attach with it and leave the dagger behind, meaning the enemy's sword is not able to be used as you have the dagger to bind and block the sword.
Also the dagger is used primarily defensively, only offensively when the person closes to grapple or short distance, you don't try to hang it out there and use it. Other big advantage is you can uncross the dagger and sword (with 2 long weapons, if you try to move them passed each other onto other lines, the weapons get tangled. not so with a long weapon and a dagger).
Ur comparing fencing( a simulated fight with rules) to real life combat…. In a battle you would rather use anything other than a sword and a dagger
@@meyr1992 No, I'm talking historical fencing. This is actual swordplay used in dueling with nobles and the like, with lives on the line. I think you'll find competitive fencing doesn't allow a dagger.
But a dagger adds so much to your repetoire. Swords are unwieldy when they get closer, daggers are designed for that. Add the enormous control a dagger will give you over an opponents sword, and you're set.
I explained everything in detail in my full one, so I won't repeat myself, but yes.
Important part, I was talking about swordplay where survival is the only goal.
This is the place where geralt earns his title...."The butcher of blaviken"
sigh....read the books...they did these short stories dirty with the adaptation. i still appreciate that it exists and brings it into mainstream culture but damn did they butcher some of these stories....
@@ipraytovodka. The majority of the audience is from the games, so for most it doesn’t matter how true it is to the books. I’d let the team have artistic freedom with their adaptation. The choreography and story is still amazing
@@ipraytovodka not just side stories. Main theme is destiny, everyone is talking about destiny and in whole season one it ends with only talking about destiny. For me whole main theme is so shallow that you couldn't even remember it if they didn't talk about it every few minutes. I can't feel the destiny betwen Geralt and Ciri. For me it's just another fantasy series from hollywood that besides characters has nothing to do with books.
@@amandeepbaghiana4510 it matters when it is an adaptation of the book,not the video game. Witcher series is based on the book,not the video game, so being faithful to the source material matyers
@@shahsadsaadu5817 it’s not even close to the video game. There is a lot of differences
Geralt: "I paid for the whole sword, I'm going to use the whole sword."
I appreciate both of these guys demeanor and knowledge. On other episodes there is always one commenter trying to be louder than the other. You can also tell how skilled they both are!
Guy with the mustache is exactly how I would imagine a fencer looking
I feel like, having been familiar with this first from the games where it's a noodle incident as opposed to the minor skirmish the show portrays it as, the show does an awesome job showing how much more capable/powerful than an ordinary human a Witcher is in how effortlessly Geralt cuts down the force arrayed against him.
While there's no doubt that these fencers know their stuff about swordsmanship
But,due to the weapons and time period, I think HEMA practitioners would have been a better choice
There is a reaction video with a long sword instructor from London that Insider did
Not really
They are Hema instructors, check out the Witcher 3 video
Nope, they simply said throughout the whole Witcher 3 video that it's not realistic without knowing that Geralt is capable of doing those things
@@wisemanlincoln1399 nope. Not the same guys. These are sports fencers. Not HEMA. Hate these sword tag players.
Henry Cavill did all this stunts himself! That's why it looks so much more convincing despite the over the top scenes.
In book it is almost a blur when is fighting in melee because of the speed, make sense because he is a mutant. In the show it was bit slowed down but still looks really fast.
This guy looks like the male version of Ellie's gf in TLOU2
Lol
So just ellie's bf in TLOU2?
Omg yes.. lmao
Lmao
Geralt of netflix series blocking an arrow using his sword: " i'm so cool "
Geralt in video games:
" You're cool with that? (Blocks an arrow using aard sign) tsk,pathetic "
We can stop arrows with aard?? 😐 countless number of times I've played through the game and somehow didn't know this 🤦♂️
I'm on my first ever play through and I didnt know this either lol, cant wait to try it out!!
Arrows are like peasants, you don't use magic for that.
I think you mean quen sign
@@crozraven no we cld use the aard sign to deflect the arrows
I feel like gameology should be more informative about the games shown In the case of the witcher the reason Geralt fights that way is because it's interpreted in the book he has a dancing like fighting style both the author and CD Project Red depict this. I believe Gamology should do research into the games and inform the experts to compare in their line of work
Every time... they have zero background knowledge about most of the reacts.
They are analyzing if its realistic or feasible or not, being mutant or sword "dancing"/is irrelevant, seems many people complain about they not having context yet the same people who complain seem to not understand they analyze it under the context of realism a and feasibility
@@alexmag342 what the experts did in this video is great, they understood that it's a tv show, and that he is mutated, and moved on past that, to criticize the movement, possibility, feat if it was in a realistic scenario without trashing/nitpicking everything. That should be how every Gameology video goes, unlike the zombie expert, doctor and those female marines...
@@sain1536 I'm fine with trashing and "nitpicking" , and the only ones I have seen taking it too serious were the female war correspondents in their first video.
@@cupicupal so it shouldn't be realistic? Yeah, if they're using Shardblades, I guess, but they are using swords
"Real Cancer Cells react to Fortnite"
Haha Circle-jerk go brrrrr.
Fortnite bad amirite boys?
@@ezclap1445 Ikr. It hurts to be this cool.
EZ CLAP nah more like a trash game for trash people. Not good at any other multiplayer games so they’re MLG at fortnite.
@@easternlighthouse5741 So you just assume nonsense about a playerbase bc they like something you don't?
i think this is my favorite one of these and ive seen at least every vid of this fight breakdown in particular but its nice that they actually enjoy it and realize the fantasy outside of the general realism
"toss a coin to you're Witcher"....Damnit I just remove that damn song in my head for months now
YOU GUYS did an awesome job!! Keep it up.
Taticals soldiers react to metal gear and Splinter cell
This was great! They didnt sit there and criticize the moves. They just reacted as one should, and then did a great job explaining the details!
Next : marines react to medal of honor (2010) "belly of the beast" mission
1:05 that offhand block of a crossbow bolt goes unnoticed most of the time, but I love the detail that the second shot is as inconsequential as the first.
As left handed, I'm really glad to know that Ryan is part of the rare beings in this planet. 😂
These People were the best ones in this channel. Salute🙏
I much like this video more than the other sword expert reacting to the scene a few months back, who criticized his swordplay harshly and didn't know Geralt is highly mutated with about 90+ yrs of experience in fighting/swordplay to boot 😅.
As I remember Geralts style of fighting has dancing on it I dont know what its called but the reasom why he does the consecutive spins because he uses the spin for the next blow to be more powerful thats why he spins left to right and it comes with a risk of exposing your back...Im glad they analyzed it great here and they have an idea what geraly is and what he can do
"Toss a coin to your Witcher" is stuck in my head again XD
Oh valley of plenty
Oh valley of plenty
Oohhh...
Really appreciate you guys. Didnt poop on these things like some experts
Finally, one where they didn't just shit all over the scene and appreciated it.
Love these guys almost as much as the marines so much passion and fun to listen to
Loved this episode, their interactions here were awesome to see and their overall enjoyment and enthusiasm was great.
Even for a witcher, parrying arrows/bolts mid flight is not easy. Geralt himself said it's something that scares him when he has to do it.
Why do people rush to the comments the moment a video is released? I know why I do it.
I check to see if my dad's here
@@6Shi6Kei6 is he?
I love the actual break down, well done
"Sword experts" dont realise that geralt using a bastard sword like you would a basket hilted broad or back sword.
In italian terms, its all about that dui tempo riposte. As people have mentioned its far better explained in other media, but it visually well created here. The idea is that the witcher can use his super human speed and his dancing stylento engage multiple opponents. When effectively splits his dui tempo riposte into two seperate fights, going for a contra tempo thrust against a second opponent, and then completing the circle into stesso tempo parry and second riposte against his first opponent who will likely be in the middle or second riposte step of their own dui tempo parry of his riposte.
Noting that all these terms would never be applied to the polish sabre style that this is supposed to be based on, but I don't know what they would call it.
Because these are fencers. They need to stop bringing these sword tag players here. Bring back the real HEMA sword fighters.
Yes, well, Italian is probably the most developed of the languages when it comes to Historical fencing, as they use a standard terminology across multiple systems with a quite broad lexicon to be able to describe actions.
I also think a dagger would be a better comparison for how hes using the sword in this fight. He's in close quarters, so can;t use the full length of the blade, so putting into a reverse grip allows the use it almost as a dagger in a "ice pick" grip, which also explains why most of use time is duo tempi, as it is effectively a shorter weapon. He's also using a grappling and wrestling effectively, as he is often using his off hand to grapple and move his opponents.
They really should have got the HEMA guys back, they were much more knowledgeable.
You're overthinking the hell out of this. Don't take it so seriously, these guys didn't. The fight is unrealistic as hell.
I didn't understand a word of what you just said
Gotta say as a stage fighter I learned a very different numbering system for the parrys and it’s interesting to see how our systems differ!
As a pretend fighter you need to know that the plural of 'parry' is 'parries'.
@@johnboylan3832 my brother in christ this comment is a year old??? XD
@@Jaewing Welcome to the internet.
Why has ABSOLVER not been done yet? It's a pretty good game with martial arts and swords
I love these two they understand completley that most things are fantasy etc and dont critique to harshly always fair and entertaining
The second sword geralt used when he stabbed the guy into the door was a gladius
Nooooooooooooooooo really? Man I thought it was a katana.
Its nice to see one of these where they acknowledge the superhuman nature of the hero and not just "oh thats unrealistic" like everyone doesn't know already
Everyone stop saying "first" nobody cares
Karmic Atom y tho
FIRST!
@Snakeye Plissken yeah i did
Second
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You guys are genius's 5/5 analysis
Have the marines react to modern warfare 2 mission “Wolverines” including the intro , attempt#8
Really good episode, loved seeing them recreate the scenes
I think fencing and Medieval European sword fighting are two different things.
Thank you! What do 2 millennial fencers know about actual SWORD combat ?
This video was like asking a basketball player to react to netball.
This is actually a good analisys. It's not just bashing. It's is accepting the lore and not just sayin "That's so unrealistic". GOOD JOB :)
Undercover Agent Reacts to Sleeping Dogs would be cool
Just when I thought it couldn't get any better, they sang the witcher song in the end... That's when I pressed the like button
If you're going to keep bringing the fencing guys in for swordfighting scenes, why not do it with sword fights that are closer to what they actually do? Just saying, stuff like The Count of Monte Cristo, The Mask of Zorro, The Musketeer, The Princess Bride, etc are all far closer to the Olympic-style fencing these two do than anything you've brought them on for so far, and their commentary towards those fights would probably be far more knowledgeable and interesting...just a thought
These guys seem really cool! Bring them in more often
Cats reacting to Samurai Cat. Please believe me. If you do that it will be the most viral video in history.
Phenomenal fight scenes, excellent coordination, brilliant show. Top tier stuff
Do "Big game hunters react to Bloodborne"
Or Monster Hunter World
I love bloodborne but that doesn't fit. Monster hunter would be more appropriate
@@NinjapowerMS bloodborne is about hunting beasts tho and the whole coldblood ritual Eldritch god baby sacrifice thing but hunting beasts man
@@lunararmy1624 And there's hardly anything about actual hunting depths in it Gameplay wise.
Monster hunter is more appropriate by a mile.
I think it's so cool that they could easily criticize this for being over the top, but they instead recognize it while also saying, "but it was really cool to watch and he's a mutant so he can get away with that stuff."
Too many people look for ultra-realism in stuff like this. This was a super cool breakdown of how someone could actually pull off a lot of these moves, how this translates to real life, while also recognizing the ability of the choreographers and the actors performing this scene, and just how awesome it was to watch!
Awesome video, thanks for making this, it was cool :)
Guys, sport fencers are not applicable to this discussion. Expert given the context is used very lightly here.
This was like getting a basketball player to react to netball.
, now that shows are involved, this opens up a whole new realm of possibilities
imagine
Please do hema instructors react to kingdom come deliverance
Been done
GeraltofRivia yeah I said this before they made that video
God I love that finally experts mention how Geralt is mutated, making some of the harder plays more plausible
why cant we get HEMA REACT TO KCD
Because HEMAtodes have already done that.
@@dogestranding5047 link pls cuz i cant find it
Good to know that expert sword fighters look exactly like you would expect an expert sword fighter to look (right out of 18th century France)
fact : Geralt is mutated.
This was the most enjoyable, entertaning and educational video ever. Now i know some tips and tricks if i evef end up in a sword fight!
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God reacts to 2020
Ryan Cook is exactly how I imagine fencer to be and that's a compliment of course
Do HEMA practitioners react to Kingdom Come Deliverance
I have watched that fight scene an unhealthy number of times. Its amazing.
Can we have these guys react to the movie "the king" on netflix
It's nice that they take a realistic approach to these scenes from fantasy shows/games. Some people would just say "Oh that's not possible." but they recognize that Geralt is a Witcher, so he has abilities, strength and stamina above normal humans
Cowboys react to Red Dead Redemption II?
@Joseph Hernandez That's commitment right there
Wow ive watched this scene countless times, constantly rewinding spots of the fight over and over and I never noticed the 2nd crossbow block. I did wonder a few times why the half elf was still holding the crossbow when Geralt made it to his location since he had plenty of time to reload and to drop said crossbow and draw a sword. Thanks guys I appreciate this fight even more now than I did before.
These guys are sport fencers and stage fighters. They know the epee, foil, saber as part of Olympic fencing and fighting safely on camera. They are not experts on historical fighting with a longsword/bastard sword as taught by Liechtenauer, Meyer, Talhoffer, Fiore, etc. You need your HEMA guys for that.
It's crazy how much better "her sweet kiss" is than the toss a coin song.
i recently discovered that this was a cover of a real song...forget wtf it actually was tho cuz im an uncultured swine
Eye opening. I was on the point of seeing fencers as practitioners of a sport, with some conection to realistic melee action, but not that much. They're really taking this apart and go beyond fencing. Really impressed here.
Actually, if someone has been reading the books, Gerald rarely deflects arrows, and even if he does, except for one moment at almost the end of the sagam he manages to deflect two consecutives arrows, followed by him saying that it will very much never happen again...
But i mean he is super fast and his eyes can process the arrow super quickly
@@nightquill5647 Yes and no. He has more reflexes than a regular huma, besides of that the witchers develop a keen perception through the earlys stages of their training regime, witch they keep developing without stoping. But there's a limit to how much they could pay atention in a battle and in witch details will they focus more... Sure, if Geralt is by himself against a not so large group like the one in the video (with only 1 or 2 archers) he could pull it out maybe once or two, but that consumes mental energy, and if he keeps like that eventually will exhaust himself and lose (something that happens quite a lot in the books). Remember that he's no overpowered mc, he COULD AND WILL get killed in any moment if he tires a lot or f**ks up...
Ignacio Calcagno but i mean he was kinda moving slow in this fight and had like 3 seconds between each person and they had to reload and shit
@@nightquill5647 Oh yeah, with enough time to focus between movements its easy to Geralt to do it, besides in this scene the enemies are using crossbows, witch gives him more time to prepare or counteratack them. But put Gerald (even with friends in arms) against a hole squad of soldiers and a bunch of archers with bows in it and surely he will say "F**k..." xD
Ignacio Calcagno it took like a few stabs for each and he was moving pretty slow with them they were obviously some hired bandits with zero sword skill
These are probably some of the best experts!
Amazing eyes , watching that scene I didn’t even notice that second bolt. Great fight scene