NATO is desperate on Russia, and delusional on China
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- The Western powers in NATO are desperately delusional on Russia, and getting more so on China, argue political economists Radhika Desai and Michael Hudson. They are joined by scholar Glenn Diesen to discuss the war in Ukraine, disaster in Europe, and farewell speech by NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg.
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Glenn, will it be possible to charge Jens Stoltenberg for crimes against humanity? Just with the destruction of Libya, - not talking about the destruction of Ukraine - Libya has not recovered since the murder of Kaddafi and the whole of the Sahel region remains unsafe and at war also leading to the mass migration of Africans into Europe or dying at sea and in the desert. It is time to make all war criminals accountable and charged.
That would be up for the ICC. Since it has been shown to be only a weapon for the Collective West to wield it will not happen. Case in point Netanyahu (obvious war criminal) not being charged but Putin (defending Russia from Western aggression) has.
Even if they did who is going to enforce such warrants, The ICC put out a warrant for Putin last year and no action was taken.
Given the dismal record of the ICC since its founding, I doubt that it is capable of doing _anything_ against a Western leader.
Thanks you for your critical work!
I don't understand why they talk about "Free trade"! The "Free trade" the West" talks about is to trade without paying tax. that free trade is a fraud and we can see its catastrophic consequences. In multipolar world the companies have to pay their taxes like always.
America has not been a good supporter of democracy around the world. We can look back to Iran in the late 1950s or India in the 70s or 80s when Pakistan tested their first nuclear weapons and India had no choice but respond with their own test and had to endure sanctions from the US. Many more examples in the Americas
Are you people that mentally ill you believe Russia is a democracy?
You seem confused, please check timeline as well as country list.
Indians are always VERY bitter.
Chile !
Americans believe so much in Democracy, that they also export it with guns.
This is getting comic! if it wasn't so tragic: next scroll upwards is CNBC with some dish-up saying Russia is getting desperate about NATO!
We have greedy petty children in charge
Hey Max, go move to Russia then. Enjoy your freedom over there!
@@GreybushCounterpunchBoxing-z7d LOL The Collective West has freedom. Your joking right. Freedom requires discipline and mindfulness. The Collective West act like spoiled children.
Money, power, and media influence hoping to win the game while the people die for the wrong reason.; and the neocons have no regrets.
You summarize it in a such a brutal clarity.... , and one can nothing but agree, sadly
I can identify a particular group in the USA who have immense influence over American finance, media and politics. Cant say who they are for fear of being tossed off RUclips.
“SUPPORTING Ukraine as a “democracy” but is it really a “Democracy”?
yes, they had open and fair elections. They have checks and balances. They have free speech and press. None of that is in Russia or China.
Ukraines are never been a democracy that why got this problems
I lived in Ukraine for 2 years - it's a cesspool of gnat-seas and corruption.
Projection is the name of the game . Accuse them of what you been doing all along
Exactly
Remember Oct 7th?
Remember February 24, 2022 ? 😂😂😂
wow thx Volltreffer bingo !
@@CheckYourPager Am sure the Palestinian were very happy before October 7
@@imbalancedstatus8824Palestinians never been happy since 1948, their land and everything they lived on has been being seized and many more massacres folwed then.Moreso many had born in the refugee camps.
Great way to start the Morning three intelligent individuals getting ready for Some mind food😊
I not really awake yet.
The online/social media world needs to see more photos of BRICS nation heads of state together in pictures. Many pictures and audio translated etc. while at the same time continually publishing those images and sound recordings frequently to help send the message home to the Western nations, the transition from a fascist economic model to a more Democratic one. The power of repetition is enormous.
How difficult is it for Europeans to remember that all major wars for centuries in Europe started with Germany, UK, France and Italy.
Kiev in threeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee days 😂😂😂
@@CheckYourPager Забавно... чтобы написать это и посмеяться ты заплатил более миллионом жизней украинцев! Вот и подумай, может все же "Киев за три дня" было бы лучшим выходом?)
@@CheckYourPager Hasbara is really desperate. You're not even trying anymore.
Look up
" All Wars are bankers wars "
Find the Rothchild name
Learn why war exists
Profit .
Yes, but after WW2 ALL wars are instigated, supported & created by Amerikka.
For real. If NATO actually gave a shit about Ukraine, they would have done more than just sending weapons and actually give better quality of life to the PEOPLE of Ukraine.
Wiki via Google:
'Countries delivering military aid to Ukraine
As of March 2024, nations-mostly, Western governments-have since January 2022 pledged more than $380 billion in aid to Ukraine, including nearly $118 billion in direct military aid from individual countries.'
For a country of 38 million, that would have been a major step up in infrastructure. Instead, they destroyed it.
@@tengkualiff Yes, especially looked to the welfare of the people in the Eastern and South Eastern Ukraine.
Betul
I ❤this conversation... the real hook was the comment that Stoltenberg's "War is Peace, escalation leads to deescalation..." speach is a copywrite infringement that George Orwell' estate can successfully pursue.
Yes! To get a good chuckle from Radhika is also golden!
Thanks for voice of truth
Glenn, will it be possible to charge Jens Stoltenberg for crimes against humanity?
Apart from Stoltenberg, Biden, Harris, and Zelensky should also be charged and made to pay the ultimate penalty for sedition as well.
charged by who? If on the side of US you are immune to any charges. After Iraq was destroyed they told the courts , oh, we made a mistake, we "thought" Saddam had weapons of mass destruction! that's it, no one charged .
@@jamesdonald7485 Most of the leaders within the Collective West have to be charged with war crime and crimes against humanity
Хочу кое-что пояснить по поводу бывших советских республик, которые при распаде СССР стали отдельными странами, а теперь эксплуатируют тему «российской оккупации», используя это против России. Как, например, Прибалтийские страны или та же Украина, которая начала использовать эту тему более активно после 2014 года.
Начну с того, что СССР распался в 1991 году, и уже 33 года, как эти страны независимы. Иначе говоря, они уже больше трех десятков лет живут самостоятельно, но до сих пор все свои проблемы оправдывают Россией.
Во-вторых, большинство западных граждан не знают, что практически все бывшие республики в составе СССР являлись дотационными территориями. Иначе говоря, практически все они жили за счет того, что им выделяли средства из общего бюджета СССР, который в основном пополнялся за счет одной основной республики РСФСР - современной России. И это при том, что СССР всячески пытался сделать эти республики профицитными, строил заводы на их территориях, развивал инфраструктуру, науку и технологии, но они все равно потребляли ресурсов больше, чем давали. Причем после распада СССР все это досталось им в наследство. И вот что забавно, что большая часть из них до сих пор являются убыточными странами и дотируются другими. Как, например, та самая Прибалтика, которую уже почти 30 лет дотирует Европейский союз. И вот мы опять возвращаемся к тому, что они независимы уже 30 лет, входят в Европейский союз, для них открыты все рынки, они получают кучу денег от других стран, но как были убыточными, так и остались. Просто теперь они сменили одних покровителей на других и, как следствие, выполняют политические запросы новых «хозяев», которым выгодно, чтобы они всячески поливали Россию «говном».
В-третьих, после распада СССР Россия, как правопреемник, взяла на себя все обязательства СССР. Я имею в виду, что все долги 15 республик СССР взяла на себя только одна - Россия. Более того, она их выплатила, и у России сейчас один из самых маленьких внешних долгов в мире по соотношению к ВВП. Причем Россия не только выплатила весь долг СССР за всех, но и простила долги других стран, например Кубы или стран Африки, которые были должны СССР. Более того, Россия - единственная страна мира, которая полностью погасила долг перед США за ленд-лиз, и если кто не знает, то эта «помощь» во время Второй мировой войны от США вообще-то была не совсем бесплатной, но еще раз повторю, Россия - единственная страна, которая его погасила, а, например, такие как Великобритания до сих пор нет.
В-четвертых, после распада СССР экономика России была в очень плохом состоянии, ее обворовывали все, кто мог до этого дотянуться, и я имею в виду не только олигархов внутри страны, но и большое количество внешних «друзей», например из США или Западной Европы, которые воспользовались положением и вывозили ресурсы, технологии и квалифицированных работников за копейки, попутно уничтожая науку и будущую конкуренцию в самой России. Никакой помощи, кроме кредитов за довольно большие проценты, Россия не получала, наоборот, на рынок заходили крупные западные компании, просто забирая большие доли внутреннего рынка, на чем зарабатывали огромные деньги, но вместо того, чтобы реинвестировать в внутри страны, выводили капитал из России. И только сейчас, после того как Запад ввел десятки тысяч санкций, а большому количеству западных компаний пришлось уйти, причем по указанию сверху, доли рынка стали занимать местные компании. Вот откуда, несмотря на санкции, экономика России развивается быстрее, чем до них, потому что местные компании, получая прибыль, реинвестируют в расширение производства внутри страны.
Ну и напоследок, по поводу Украины. На момент распада СССР Украина по уровню развитой промышленности, науки, сельского хозяйства и размеру экономики была на уровне Германии. За следующие 30 лет своей независимости и еще до начала специальной военной операции она превратилась в одну из самых бедных стран Европы. И падение ускорилось в разы ровно после 2014 года, когда на Украине произошел переворот и они решили разорвать отношения с Россией. И если вы посмотрите на остальные бывшие республики, которые стали отдельными странами, то как только они начинают портить отношения с Россией, то тут же у них начинает ускоряться падение экономики. И дело тут в том, что основным рынком, на котором они зарабатывают и откуда получают ресурсы дешево, была Россия. Посмотрите на показатели Прибалтийских стран, как только они присоединились к санкциям, то потеряли крупнейшего поставщика энергоресурсов, крупнейшего клиента на транзит товаров через их порты и крупнейшего покупателя их продукции. И тут надо понять одну простую истину: как только политика вмешивается в экономику, то все сыпется как карточный домик. А эти политики ничего, кроме собственного политического пиара на эксплуатации строй и бесполезной темы про «оккупацию», в страну не привносят, они бездарные управленцы, без государственного видения, без рационального мышления и без реального, а не показного патриотизма, популисты.)))
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I beg you,please write a book.You are making a lot of sense.
@Vit_Kon
- Thank you very much for providing the above details which, hopefully, may also educate the American puppets.
Fear mongering, they are instructed to preach that gospel for the world to hate Putin. but even us in Africa we know its far fetched
Thank you for the facts. I'm American and knew what horrible things the US government did to Russia in the 1990s after the USSR collapsed. They were taking advantage and being greedy with Russian resources this is why they are butthurt with President Putin cause he isn't Yelstin
Excellent interview !
Oh, brilliant, Glenn! "When Peace breaks out the market value of military alliance collapses." Wow! Perfect. Sell the hoodies w/this on it.
With attribution of course! Michael's beautiful smile encourages truth put so deeply so!
I'm gonna make the t-shirt 😉
"If you Kill the War; you will Kill the Business" Zbigniew Brzezinsky 1973.
And Glenn, then you didn’t mention, that Jens Stoltenberg succeeded the former Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen, who was The NATO General Secretary before him. He also was a war hawk and best buddy with President Bush. He was so proud about the bombing in Libya. I don’t know if he is proud about the dead Danish soldiers. He never talks about it.
we don't support nato u.s. why nato show like western where is nato they are in eastern world or western ? so kick out nato from eastern world now whole support eastern world welcome to Asia God bless Adia everything
We need NATO kicked out of the western world to!! Corporate war machine, nothing more....
The Ukrainian war is the first war I've actually understood (i.e. why it started, why it was necessary). Russia is on the right side of history on this one. Even if there was an peace agreement made tomorrow between Russia and Ukraine, it wouldn't work - it would simply result in kicking the can down the road. There's way too much hate in the region now, too many gnat-seas involved (who are supported by the US). Anyway, I hope all of those involved in starting this war are happy with themselves.
Great comment! Stoltenberg’s comment “Weapons are the way to Peace” is almost copyright infringement on Orwell.
I would argue if think tank serves the interests of the donor rather than the public interest. It’s even more inclined to become self-inspired when donors control both think tanks and the politicians to become the vested interest duo.
Besides Africa for Africans....
The Decline of the European Union and the Rise of China:
"Between 1980 and 2020, the European Union's share of world GDP fell from 26% to 15%.
In other words, it fell by 11 percentage points, a very large drop. Although the decline in the United States was smaller, it fell from 21% in the 1980s to less than 16% in 2020.
Meanwhile, Asia and East Asia continue to increase.
The quota in 1980 was 11.5%, and has increased to 25% in 2020.
Of this 25%, China is the country that has contributed the most, with 18%". Danny Quah, Dean of the Lee Kuan Yew Institute in Singapore.
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I love that with out NATO we might have peace I truly believe that and I hope the world stands together on this in most places in the world we’re there are problems the United States is involved let’s be honest
a gang of greedy little children inhabit the White House right now, they are a loathsome lot.
I'll be voting for Trump and then, God willing, adults can sit down and resolve some of these horrible problems.
plz froce yr country to pic on the earth .....plz do not belive yr country & us government
Trump has a huge following in the USA .
Radhika, why don't you let your guests talk?
Because she’s a woman . 😅 it’s really annoying. Greetings from another woman.
She's the time-keeper, the organizational one. And Finally, the woman who has been given some time/space to speak. Ease up! It's new terrirory for powerful women to direct AND share the moments. Plus, it gets better every single show! Michael's, nods, smiles, Glenn's points made as kind interspersals, Radhika is slowing her speech down too! So we adhd westerners can listen more & deeply take in her terrific overviews! Patience. Strategic Patience, habibi!
Yes. Annoying.
Praise אלה יהוה!
אמת
Truth and morality shall prevail!
Ståltenberg was as young completely against NATO. I have a newspapercut where he says that
The objective of the war in Ukraine is to open Russia and the Russian speaking parts of Ukraine to exploitation and asset stripping in order to restore Western balance sheets. The hope is to install a compliant regime in Moscow as well as Ukraine. It’s neo-colonialism. It doesn’t require a complete military victory over Russia. It only requires to the West to make the cost of not complying greater than the cost of capitulating to Western financial capital.
Intelligent comment.
How is not colonial from Russha's side? I completely agree with your view otherwise
@@tylerd1297 Who/what is Russia colonizing?
@@MnemonicCarrier ummm over 1/4 of a country that isn't theirs. I'm confused as to how you can say it's colonialism to support them but not for the country trying to take their land
@@tylerd1297 I still don't understand what you're saying. Are you saying that 1/4 of the Russian Federation isn't Russian?
Zajrzałam na ten kanał ponieważ zauważyłam dobrze znane nazwiska wybitnych naukowców.
What on earth has NATO got to do with women's rights?? I always thought NATO was a defensive military alliance, when in fact it's purpose now is OFFENSIVE.
In all fairness, Patriot missile batteries are operated by "two moms" 😉
They need False Flag for the War on other countries
FYI: No mention in title or tumbnail that Hudson, Radhika & Glenn were talking.
Financing Germany now is tied up in medicine and medical technology and development of biochemicals.
Last year 2023 i paid 3 times more for the Gas Energy 🤮
Professional managerial class, educated in b/s and rewarded for talking b/s. Incredibly true.
Why have Michael Hudson there when this woman just want to hear her voice and Glenn’s?? Michael you’re better off with Nima who attentively listens to his guest
Brakuje wypowiedzi Pana Hudsona, bardzo cennych dla zwykłego widza..
@@MariaWróblewska-g4b I’m sorry your reply can’t be translated
I don't understand I asked myself this question every time what type of politics is this if somebody politician doing something wrong why people have to support such behaviors this is not good for the world I don't know why European have to follow America and doing something bad I am sick of this unprecedent behaviors I don't know what to say
They are all controlled by the WEF.
This is a long video. cannot finish.
Western peaceful economic competition with BRICS would catalyze increasing democracy there.
Hello
There is not much time left and he knows it well comparing between times that the course of history has derailed from his plan.
He must bring his army of backers and supporters with him to a meeting with the Iranians and give them the ultimatum.
Now
Your making a good argument ma'am.
When a bully who in debt goes round extracting money from any and all, yet his debt grows .
Does he stop bullying or destroy himself.
Has he read the bible
Fans, ask yourselves, since when has China has ever invaded or occupied or colonized any others?
Can anyone answer this honestly? If not, look up history!
If Russland ARE (don’t think so ) comming for any country in Europa , USA and NATO can’t help.
I fully expect that humanity can end itself in my lifetime. It is a sickly realization that I might awake one morning to a radioactive flash
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
إِلَّا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ وَذَكَرُوا اللَّهَ كَثِيرًا وَانْتَصَرُوا مِنْ بَعْدِ مَا ظُلِمُوا وَسَيَعْلَمُ الَّذِينَ ظَلَمُوا أَيَّ مُنْقَلَبٍ يَنْقَلِبُونَ ﴿۲۲۷﴾
Except those who believe, and do good works and remember Allah in abundance and became victorious after they had been wronged. The wrongdoers will surely know which turn they will be returning to (Hell). (
This is very superficial
Who and what is behind all this, playing this game ? 🙄
Author of these comments "all major wars for centuries in Europe started with Germany, UK, France and Italy." wins the 1st prize of truth
So glad clicked on this video one of the best explanations have heard 100% spot on.
A lot of double-speak from Western gob'ments these days.
Thank you
Glen is an alighted speaker in this discussion. Not saying others aren't however.
Very informative and insightful. Thanks.
Oldies should stay away in politics quite dangerous to younger generations 😂
The Indian gal is probably from the Priest Class of the India caste system.
Millions and Millions Ukrainian Flee from their country
Thank you all three for this enriching discussion. Let reason and peace prevail!
🌞🖖🏼✌🏽🤗 Well done. The depth, breath of knowledge, experience is astounding! A privilege. Thank you. Best wishes.
do the strong ideologies that are growing, blind those who are governing us even in economic terms, I just ask?
V are starting an Asian NATO - India , Japan , South Korea , Taiwan , US.
Norway is not even in EU , why we should listen to Stoltenberg
Ben Norton also should being doing analysis this long.
Phenomenal discussion.
Black people have great lives in Russia, move there and find out!
@@GreybushCounterpunchBoxing-z7d still far better than US, UK and Europe. Ask a black guy. For your info a wrongfully convicted innocent black man was executed a few days ago.
This is a very interesting and informative discussion.
Great discussion, well spent time.
Well, you have an Indian bashing Chinese again.
Lara Croft for womens rights in Afghansitan
Who is evil is up for debate
Hahahahahahahaha Ridiculous
I hope that helps you Michael ❤
Thanks for the content
NETO its owe in 12 Mans .
4 decades ,wowww!
Awe
Perfect ❤❤❤
Thank you
Who this?
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Great! Let’s restrict people’s thoughts in the “Land of democracy and Free Speech,” eh? What’s next? Arrest them and imprison them for saying bad things about the US even though what they said are true? Oops! The US government did discuss this in a hearing about putting independent journalists in prison for exposing US’s crimes and other shady things that the US does around the world! They even talked about imprisoning social media users for posting negative comments about the US or revealing unsavory things that the US does! Just look at what the US does to Julian Assange and Edward Snowden for simply exposing the US’s crimes! Ironically hypocrites like you don’t see anything wrong with one side of your mouth bragging about how great your country’s freedom of speech is to the world while the other side is calling for exposing people’s identity so that the US government could go after them simply because they revealed the truth about the US’s crimes! Some human rights and free speech that is that you’re supporting, Mr Hypocrite! “But but but unlike China we have free speech in the US!” that’s the line you always use against those people that say good things about China, eh? Please, son! Please! Listen to yourself talking once in a while will ya?
Japan 🤝 India for asian nato
NATO = Amurican Empire
Wish you the best.
That is Natto not NATO. No NATO in Asia.
Chinese channel 😂😂
Peking 🦆🤤😋
Keep doubling down on your world view. It will take you far. 🙄
Russia: this is a red line, this is a red line, this is a red line.. . What would be the red line of Ukraine?? Could it be its BORDER !!!
Be thankful they didn't push the button yet. It's fortunate that they have many redlines if not then we are doomed. No one is safe even American but then many russians will survive because their many subways was built for the purpose of surviving nuclear fallout
Mumbai-Dharavi numba-1?
Exactly! Those that remain after the defeat
Such an ignorant take. Ukraine shouldn't have gone in bed with the usa after explicitly told not to do so by russia for over 20 years and to stay neutral. Or that the usa overthrew the officially elected government in Ukraine and the new government going full nutsi style with russia hatred. You know what a fair respond is if you always think, ''What would i do in that situation'' or rather what would the USA do in that situation. If Russia or china did that with mexico. There is your answer.
It's not Russia making red lines, it's the West falsely claims that about Russia. Pay attention, clown.
Thank you independent journalists for your honest, true news report without U.S. / Canadian “mainstream” propaganda lies!
Say Bye Bye to WEST
WHATEVER