Installing a High-Output, Twin Row, LED bar on a New Land Rover Defender 110
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- The headlights on the Defender are extremely poor (the matrix lights, available in Europe and Australia, are a little better, but still much less good than the Discovery 5 or Range Rovers); and anyone thinking of using one in the back country should consider installing a high-level light bar to supplement the light -- especially if you live or travel in open or mountainous regions. In this video I talk about the high-level LED light I fitted to the OEM rack before the trip to the Arctic. I'll be swapping the light out for a STEDI bar this coming weekend, but the basic principles are useful. I'm hoping this will be useful to some of you, as it is a question I have been asked often on the other platforms to which I post.
Feel free to comment below with useful and engaging debate; "It's a pretender not a defender" or "solid axles rule OK" comments will be deleted -- just sayin'.
The intro and outro are from: EEAAEA
Performed by: VVibeTrix (Johanna Ahola-Launonen, Maarit Laihonen, Matti Häyry, Mikaela Mansikkala, Satu Haiko)
Music: Matti Häyry
Lyrics: Matti Häyry
Arrangement: Matti Häyry, Mikaela Mansikkala, Lacce Väyrynen
Recording: Matti Häyry, Lacce Väyrynen
Studio engineering: Matti Häyry, Lacce Väyrynen
Producer: Lacce Väyrynen
Executive producer: Matti Häyry
Mastering: Kesthouse
With Permission from: (c) Matti Häyry and Polite Bystander Productions 2019
That accent is so close to an old Maine accent as something that originated 3,000 miles away can be, It’s eerie.
Interesting to know! I haven’t heard a Maine accent! My accent is from rural Derbyshire!
@@shedlock2000 my folks and a lot of others come from Lancashire and Yorkshire. But although your accent is a bit different there are a lot of similarities.
Great vids btw and go to see you enjoying your defender.
@@jdenmark1287 there are a lot of similarities - and accents do differ quite a lot in a very short distance! I’ve travelled about quite a lot, and I imagine that my accent is varied. I teach philosophy and I’ve been told I correct my accent quite a bit so as to be understood! (Most people in the North America struggle with my accent when I corrected)!
I love the defender and am happy every day that I bought it! Thanks for enjoying the videos! Please subscribe (if you haven’t), that way you’ll get notifications of my new uploads.
@@shedlock2000 did already 👍🏻
I’m in Hawaii now and the pidgin spoken here is a take off of the New England Accent as the people teaching English back in the beginning were all missionaries from the north east.
@@jdenmark1287 That’s very interesting! You’re in the one state I haven’t visited! How is it? Interesting to know about the pidgin!
Where did you connect to the positive pole on the battery? I see the jumper post under the red lid, but nothing to screw onto. Thanks. Love the videos!
Hey Darren and Kelly!
Thanks for reaching out. I don’t think I have any photos now, but there’s a jumper post under a lid on the left hand side of the engine bay. Behind it are a series of kids that cover built-in large fuse holders (presumably for the factory fitted winch etc).
The first one of these connects to the common strap that forms the base of the jumper post, and I screwed the electrical into that. Be careful to screw to the live side not the fused side, obviously).
To be honest, there’s quite a lot of space and potential under there to mount electrical items too (which is appreciated and a shift for JLR!). Behind the cover for the jumper post are a few other large-fuse outlets. The common rail splits on mine and feeds several fuse holders - any of these will do). Some of the common rail fuse holders are smaller than others, so you’ll find something there that’s useful.
At the @5:20 mark, you’ll see me pick up the red jumper cover. Behind that towards the windscreen is a black cover. The positive common rail is under that - and that’s where you’ll find something to screw to.
@@shedlock2000 many thanks!
I just fitted some Lazer grille lights in to my 90, triggered by the main beam 12V signal at the back of the headlamp. I don't think you can use the contactless CAN reader to trigger them from the 12V signal wire as that's not a CAN signal. If you want to use the contactless reader then I think you need to intercept the CAN signal under the seat in the cabin and then route a wire back to the relay.
I think you’re right. I was hoping just to use the 12v feed as a trigger wire to induce the switch (surely 12v is easier to induce a current from than a 5v)! but I think I’ll have to go under the seat.
I’m a bit reluctant to do this, because getting the wire from under the seat to the bonnet is a much bigger pain to do than simply splitting a wire from the headlamp bundle.
I’m also disappointed because the contactless reader and CanBus interface (which cost over $200) don’t work fully: the interface doesn’t output 12v for the position (or side) lights, as there’s an error with the software. This means I’d have to send it back to Lazer Lamps to be re-programmed at some stage when CanM8 fix it (whenever that may be). So the contactless stuff I bought won’t work properly. I can’t say I’m very happy about that.
Did you just cut and splice the 12v feed to the headlamp unit to get your feed? I believe the main beam feed is purple and the side light is green - is that right?
How do you like your lazer lamps? I was keen to install low-level lighting, but they won’t fit with a winch, so I’m not yet sure how to proceed.
@@shedlock2000 I bought the CanBus interface and contactless reader and returned them to Lazer after going through the same thought process. Much easier to just pick up the 12V signal from the headlight. I cut and spliced the main beam signal using waterproof gel crimp connectors. It's a purple wire with an orange stripe going to Pin 10. You can quite easily test it with a voltmeter from the connector end before you cut in to it by flashing your headlights (but you need two people really!). I'm impressed with the lights so far but haven't had chance to use then in anger yet!
I did wonder about sourcing a male and female headlamp connector somehow and then making a little wiring harness to split off the main beam signal. That way you’re not touching your car wiring and it’s easy to return it to stock configuration. But in the end I just cut the wire!
Yeah, a little patch lead would be the bomb! I wonder why JLR or @powerfulUK haven't got on that idea!
@@shedlock2000 I did ask PowerfulUK if they’d be interested in making one up but they didn’t seem keen. Which is fair enough as they don’t sell any products that use the front headlamp signal (yet), but they do have a harness for the rear reverse light signal. So fingers crossed they can develop something.
Yeah, Honestly, not digging the silicone look.
It’s not my preferred option either, but there’s no drilling and it’s not really obvious unless you’re looking for it.
The top panel (above the windscreen) does come off, but it’s a big job and requires the roof lining to come down too. So there are better ways, just not easier.
@@shedlock2000 I understand. Nice light bar, really cool Defender.
Thanks!
The transparent silicone looks tacky for such a posh and brand new vehicle,black silicone would have been a better option,great job though.
It wasn't my favourite fix either, but at 3am in the morning that I left, no whistle was better than looks! I knew the bar would be coming off when I installed the STEDI bar later on (Video on that coming soon). Vexingly, the whistle on the new STEDI bar is worse than the 40" bar ever was!
@@shedlock2000 you and many other people have resorted to using the new the Defender in the same way the old one was, which is a very good thing.
Loving all your Videos and commentary shedlock, please keep them coming..
I so wished I lived in Big Country, Lincolnshire England just doesn't the same opportunities 😄
I'm moving in the direction of a new 110. Have been following the Ineos Grenadier story also, they mention pre-wiring the Grenadier for many auxiliary lighting options including light bars...... Landrover please take note.
Pre-wiring would be a nice touch, for sure! That kind of plug snd play is likely steered away from by JLR - I can imagine the law suits just stacking up!
Great video! I'm prepping myself to tackle this project, but for installation of the roof crossbars... Wish me luck!
Good luck! I have finished the install on the STEDI bar (video coming soon), and I would recommend that you double check the depth of your light bar if you have a sunroof. Pay attention to the dimensions I have provided. I pushed the Stedi as far forwards as I can and the light is still too close to the sunroof and the sunroof won't slide back (though it does tilt open). I would suspect that your light bar can be no taller than 2 12" if you want the sunroof to open.
Nice video Steve - handn’t though about extra lights, but some good tips here 🤙🏻
Thanks, Promentery Robbins! In a compilation video somewhere, you can see the difference the bar makes in the dark and out here in the mountains. The vegetation sucks up so much light that the stock lighting is really insufficient.
Hi again, I'm considering a D200, you say you have friends with them in UK. Can you please get their feedback on the engine as I'm having difficulty finding any reviews on RUclips or elsewhere.
Hi Grayham!
I’ll ask about and see what they say! There’s a really good FaceBook group called ‘All New Defender Owners Group’ ; try joining that, as there are a lot of members there from the U.K. with much feedback on the vehicles.
Hi Graham,
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I reached out to one of the group members, Jonas Falk, and he’s this to say about his:
“Steven Firth Hi. I’ve only had the car for a few weeks and haven’t done any heavy towing of like my boat yet. I’m also a gentle driver... But on various swedish winter roads and snowy small forest roads it works very well. My former car was a Disco4 with also a 3 lit diesel 6-cyl. This new straight 6 seems smoother and also is a bit more economic. I think I average appr 0,7 lit/10km compered to 0,9 in the Disco. So imho it’s a very nice engine with plenty of power for my needs.”
I hope that’s useful! Seems like a positive review!
Thanks thats good to know, things not quite adding up so decided to keep my Puma Defender a bit longer for now.
@@grahamwest1079 No worries! Hope you get some more life out of the Puma. The new defender is a big culture shock, and less a less necessary move in the UK where distances travelled are not that great. However, they really are an improvement here: Taryn and I have just come back from a couple of day trip to Canmore and the surrounding area and knocked up 1700 miles. 1700 miles in 3 days is much easier to do in a new defender than and old defender!
Question: Are you in Lethbridge, Alberta? Or is RUclips having a laugh?
I am! Believe it or not!
Just what you need to drive t' Settle.
Hahahah! Just what you need to drive anywhere!
what a hack job !
It’s not my best install, for sure. I needed the light in a hurry, so corners had to be cut. What I didn’t do, was cut the roof - which is what I call a hack job (despite its neatness).