ATTN: RUclips IS SHUTTING DOWN ALL GUN CHANNELS! I have moved over to Rumble. Others are leaving RUclips in droves as well. All my NEW content is being posted on Rumble and all my old content is being sync'd by Rumble and stored on their servers for preservation. My channel is easy to find, just search for "NFA Review" in the search bar and you can find me and subscribe! RUclips has given me 2 strikes so far on videos that weren't out during their new policy change. In addition they are deleting 5-6 videos of mine a week! They are doing the same to other Gun Channels and even the manufacturers that have channels. It's time we take our viewership over to Rumble! No more scrolling and watching non gun related content while we are logged in, no more fresh content, no more support. They don't want us here and Rumble has extended open arms to us and other free thinkers who aren't afraid to call BS on how far society has fallen! See ya on Rumble! - Adam
Thanks for another vid! It’s been 263 days since I purchased my OSS HXQD 556 and 248 days since the ATF cashed my $200 check. Still not expecting it in-hand until maybe mid-late January. Had the displeasure last night of standing only feet away from an AR that went off when I didn’t have hearing protection. Pretty annoying.
I started watching with a mindset of “here comes yet another suppressor,” but after having watched the video, I stand corrected. This really is a superior can. Thank you for the review!
To all the snowflakes mad about the FBI contract…You realize that every firearm and suppressor manufacturer sell to gov agencies right? All of them. Gasp…even the ATF. The contract was brought up in the review because if the suppressor went head to head with every other 30cal suppressor offering and won, it's probably good enough for you and me. 🤷♂️ But go get all pissed off and emotional like the liberals do 😂
I'm only salty about the contract...because that gets priority, and makes it difficult for me to get one! Otherwise, looks like I'd better reach out to Adam and see about getting myself one!
@@LonelyRavenProductio I don’t sell cans but Gun Trader Den in St. Pete can order them in for you and ship to your dealer. If you’re a Gold Member on Patreon don’t forget to message me there to get your discount on the suppressor! Gold members get special perks at GTD.
18:40 Shift in point of impact from point of aim=barrel temp^ always a factor when shooting multiple rounds without cooling time. Not really considered by many.
How much POI impact difference is there when using the XL model and are these able to be used with a 22-250 thankful for the information and quality videos. I have been interested in a Thunder beast ultra 9 to keep the accurate shoot However this weekend item give another option.
Same here. Had to do it. Just got a daily deal notice for the HeavyUse 5.56 at 200.00 and the R30 for 250.00. Did not come with the hard case, but didnt expect that for the a amazing price. Delivered to my dealer in 6 days. Currently in NFA jail.
@@sjb3460 ... if your "church is government approved," then possibly you're in the wrong church, or the church is so anemic that it's no threat to the devil's servants.....
The only thing I can think of for the cross accuracy difference is that the suppressor itself is acting like a harmonic tuner for your barrel somehow, but I can’t say for sure
Excellent, without a doubt we are adding mass directly coupled to the barrel. Given the numerous variables that come into play I'd say it's more than just a theory, it's a real world concern.
Sure would be nice to have you use a dB meter to compare relative sound levels, not as an absolute accurate figure, but to tell us relative numbers. Yes we all understand meters do not agree with each other, but if you use the SAME meter in the same position to every test, we can have a relative figure. It would really help to be able to rank different cans. Without it....
It still would be nice if you showed the db, the manufacturer's db, so I don't have to go look it up. and the db of unsilenced. It doesn't have to be measured just put it down on the bottom with your other info
I would say just ported as the rest of the baffle stack is traditional. No extra flow like with huxwrx/oss with the helicoil design or cgs with the vented blast chamber.
@@kgmsuppressors That's really good to hear for everyone involved, especially consumers like myself. Now, if you can convince them to come out with a 13.5x1LH Keymicro brake already.
@Zz Mann You realize every single suppressor and firearm manufacturer sells to gov agencies right? Maybe if you actually bought suppressors instead of shit posting on RUclips all these companies wouldn't have to put food on the table with these large contracts. 🤡
Ok but. Pretty much any piece of high speed kit out there has been used by the FBI at some point. From supressors, to guns, to load out gear. So that rules out a TON of companies.
Well it should. It means they also tested every other commercially available suppressor and the R30 won. Think about the companies and suppressors that entered. All common and popular names you've heard of. And the R30 came out on top. Thats why I made a big deal about it. I could careless the FBI have it. I care it was put though hell and had to pass stringent tests and won overall.
I wonder what the cost would be if it was packaged in a recycled cardboard tube? I’d prefer it that way. The suppressor is what you went on a 2nd federal gun list for. The suppressor is what you give the ATF, DHS, WF&G, a guaranteed warrant to storm your house in the middle of the night for. Nobody cares about a box when you have to give rights up own the boxes contents. It does sound like a fantastic suppressor.
Ummm what? You don’t give up rights when you buy a silencer 😂 No agency has a right to just come into your home because you bought a silencer. ATF only does inspections on FFL’s. Home based FFL’s and brick and mortar FFL’s. Even if you’re home based FFL they can only inspect the paperwork and firearms related to the business, not personal guns.
@@ja0298 exactly they are conflating a separate situation where people where buying the parts online like at wish for example with no tax stamp or anything and had ATF knocking at their door completely different situations especially when you buy legal lol the box doesn't determine your rights LOL and in many cases won't even lower the price just gives a higher chance of damaged upon arrival lol
@@Dgafsranger you mean those cheap "fuel filters" or "solvent traps" along with a "tube and cone set."........yep, drilled that last hole and before the last chip hit the ground the dog was shot, the wife holding the baby behind the door was shot, the side of the house blown open and 20 stormtroopers jumped thru all the windows......they even took the chips...
@@streamylc no r30 for civilian sales other than what's left on the market. Sucks for me as I'm awaiting my ffl approval and then sot so won't be any for me to get to sell to clients.
@stravwatson1952 there are still some civilian cans left in the market but yeah le/mil only. I'm an sot so I can still get them for my local leos but it's not as much fun that way.
Yes, the scale is logarithmic, anyone who's been around suppressors knows this. It's also not that perceivable and damn near impossible with the human ear when shooting supersonic cartridges. A meter will pick it up, a human most likely will not.
@@nfareview Are you talking about a human picking up 3db difference I'd think 2-3db is barely perceived and noticeable if used side by side. But by the time you take a can off and put another one to shoot for comparison you've prolly already lost that perception.
@@nfareview How would you say the SG30 compared to the Dead Air Nomad 30 in terms of sound reduction for 300 Blackout in the AR-15 platform? Would I be correct in assuming the SG30 had less gas blowback to the face due to it's design.
This is awesome to hear how well that suppresser works. I have to ask though. Knowing how there made and the materials used why in God's name are suppressors so expensive? I bet this can be made for 150$ maybe less. A quality rifle is cheaper than alot of suppressors and that's insane. Think of a decent ar bone stock. 1000$ all day. Then u get this small piece of metal with literally 2% of the work put in for same price. I want one badly but the cost is stupidly high to me. Seems like pricing based on its "cool" factor
It might have something to do with the insane regulations and probably also has to do with supply and demand. There isn't a huge demand so supply is low thus price is high? Idk, suppressors should not be nfa items and the NFA is unconstitutional anyway.
Titanium is very difficult to work and regulations are very expensive to manage... but you are right we should be able to get suppressors that work on rifles for 200 or 300 bucks, without any tax stamps or special permits (like we do need in Switzerland)
I'd bet there's $200 in raw titanium. Then they have to be machined, welded, and coated. They're probably $400 to make. And they have to pay for the tooling somehow. You can buy $200 cans in europe, but they're considered semi-disposable and don't last long. Because of the NFA we want something that works very well and is a lifetime of use. We spend 5x more, but we get 10x the use out of them also.
I have a question. You call yourself a reviewer(NFA Review Channel). To me, the goal of a reviewer is to bring all information they possibly can to their audience so the audience can make an informed decision on what product to buy or not buy. So I find it rather strange when you say you will not review a product from a company, especially a very prominent company (*cough* SilencerCo *cough*), unless they first reach out to you first. How can we, as your audience, take what you say seriously when the only products you review are ones cherry picked and sent to you by a given company?
I used to work with SiCo at the beginning of my channel. My point of contact there and I had a falling out. They never mended that when he left. It's not my place to go around soliciting products from companies. If they want a review, they know where to find me. If not, there are plenty of Instagrammers begging for products. Watch their reviews. 👍
@@nfareview I've seen them all already, I want to see videos on their new cans, like the 36M and now the 46M, because there's very few good quality reviews covering them on RUclips.
@@the1andonlySherlock I don’t know what to tell you brother. I can’t afford to buy 4 suppressors a month. Do you understand what it takes to produce one of my reviews? 4 days of work. Studio, edit, range, edit, post. Add ammo expenses and I have 30 man hours plus ammo just in one video. Imagine adding the cost of the suppressor on top. For what? I don’t make $ on the RUclips ads. Want to support the channel? Head to Patreon and bring 100 friends to the Gold tier. Then I’ll buy all the SiCo suppressors you want to see reviewed 🤣 Until then I’ll stay the course 🍻
So is it safe to say you will never address the question of why not use a decent dB meter, not as an absolute value, but to use the same meter in the same conditions so we can have an OBJECTIVE quantitative measure to determine RELATIVE loudness between tested suppressors. Please answer the question directly. And I want to add I really appreciate your videos!
I’ve used BK2009 meters in old videos. It adds a TON of work. I’ve yet to see a company in this day and age, fudging numbers. Not to mention I can meter a can here in FL on Dec1st and then in Georgia on Dec2 with the same ammo and host and it’ll meter 3-5dB different. This is why I hold my annual Suppressed Fest events. So you can come out and demo cans live in person from a plethora of vendors.
He has explained in previous videos that to him it's about the tone of the combination more than absolute dB numbers. Are you or anyone familiar with A weighing and B weighing of professional dB meters? I am and what it means in real world is it's about the tone, the numbers are only good for comparing tests in the same environment
@@jeffreystroman2811 Yes, only in the same environments- it would help greatly to give an idea of relative loudness. Of course the tone makes a difference, but that can be commented on. The mic and internet sound make them all sound quite similar volume. You can't tell me a 121 db sounds the same as 1dB.,..well you could, but you would be wrong. heh. Don't have a stroke over that comment.
Because there's only really 1 meter that can even capture a gunshot. All the rest are far too slow and will generally show the same values at every gunshot. You would be upset if they all metered 120db with or without a can right?
Well it's full titanium construction built for precision shooting and being sold to a government agency. I'd say 1g is pretty reasonable. My SureFire Socom 762 was 1100 on sale. It isn't quiet. It's heavy af. But it's built like a tank.
@@someguy5035 no, they have limited production capacity and limited machine space. they are maximizing their profit per machine by keeping them running, but at some point you raise the price to where it stabilizes the machine capacity vs profit. It's an NFA item, it's going to cost more to get something well made from exotic materials. Priced raw titanium lately?
@@MiguelACurlSr247365 Import ammo only. Most civilian gun companies have literally zero Fed Gov contracts. And between 80% lowers and my access to three million dollars of CNC equipment I'm doing pretty ok. I'm making a completely billet upper for the lulz this next quarter.
Not having a silencer is your choice. I choose to have one in case I get in a sniper v. sniper scenario with the FBI. Why should I be the one to disturb the neighbors as I take out tyrants?
ATTN: RUclips IS SHUTTING DOWN ALL GUN CHANNELS! I have moved over to Rumble. Others are leaving RUclips in droves as well. All my NEW content is being posted on Rumble and all my old content is being sync'd by Rumble and stored on their servers for preservation. My channel is easy to find, just search for "NFA Review" in the search bar and you can find me and subscribe! RUclips has given me 2 strikes so far on videos that weren't out during their new policy change. In addition they are deleting 5-6 videos of mine a week! They are doing the same to other Gun Channels and even the manufacturers that have channels. It's time we take our viewership over to Rumble! No more scrolling and watching non gun related content while we are logged in, no more fresh content, no more support. They don't want us here and Rumble has extended open arms to us and other free thinkers who aren't afraid to call BS on how far society has fallen! See ya on Rumble! - Adam
Why did I find that little poot of gas when the bolt closed super satisfying
I know right!!
Same
The first one was a smoke ring. I though I imagined it.
Everyone likes a good donut
“ little poot” lol
Nobody gonna comment on that B-E-A-utiful smoke ring the suppressor blew during the opening intro? 😂
Thanks for another vid! It’s been 263 days since I purchased my OSS HXQD 556 and 248 days since the ATF cashed my $200 check. Still not expecting it in-hand until maybe mid-late January. Had the displeasure last night of standing only feet away from an AR that went off when I didn’t have hearing protection. Pretty annoying.
I started watching with a mindset of “here comes yet another suppressor,” but after having watched the video, I stand corrected. This really is a superior can. Thank you for the review!
To all the snowflakes mad about the FBI contract…You realize that every firearm and suppressor manufacturer sell to gov agencies right? All of them. Gasp…even the ATF. The contract was brought up in the review because if the suppressor went head to head with every other 30cal suppressor offering and won, it's probably good enough for you and me. 🤷♂️ But go get all pissed off and emotional like the liberals do 😂
I'm only salty about the contract...because that gets priority, and makes it difficult for me to get one!
Otherwise, looks like I'd better reach out to Adam and see about getting myself one!
@@LonelyRavenProductio I don’t sell cans but Gun Trader Den in St. Pete can order them in for you and ship to your dealer. If you’re a Gold Member on Patreon don’t forget to message me there to get your discount on the suppressor! Gold members get special perks at GTD.
Question, why are you having issues when chambering your 300 blkout ar??
@@americanmade7262 Too little backpressure. The can isn't nearly as restrictive as what it's gassed to run.
Technically, the R30T that comes with a muzzle break instead of the direct threads and only in FDE is the FBI can.
little smoke ring at 0:22?
18:40 Shift in point of impact from point of aim=barrel temp^ always a factor when shooting multiple rounds without cooling time. Not really considered by many.
That only happens with a pencil thin barrel (and then the groups usually open all the way around) or with an improperly stress relieved barrel.
It sounded great. Great video. Thanks.
Gotta have the right can to arrest people from a few hundred yards.
and kill their dog and wife holding a baby.
Just double checked the status of my Dead Air Wolfman stamp approval and noticed that the can manufacturer was KGM! 😳😄
How much POI impact difference is there when using the XL model and are these able to be used with a 22-250 thankful for the information and quality videos. I have been interested in a Thunder beast ultra 9 to keep the accurate shoot However this weekend item give another option.
Wonderful 😎
I know that they are the people who make at least some of the Dead Air cans. How have they been doing with their QC on their own stuff?
I'm guessing you put a Ruger ranch rifle into a Magpul stock and it wont feed from the mag.
Nailed it. Still waiting on that darn Magpul magazine the said they were releasing soon. If they don’t hurry up I’m going back to stock.
Where can we purchase the R30T?
Great review. Thanks!
We all just know the FBI is going to mainly use this on political dissidents. Hostage rescue team my butt...
FBI is going to shoot polical dissidents? Really?
Just picked this up for $400. At that price, how could I not?
Adam. Where can I get one for $400 ???
@@groovinav Bereli has the 5.56 heavy use for 450 and the r30/r30t for 450/500
Same here. Had to do it. Just got a daily deal notice for the HeavyUse 5.56 at 200.00 and the R30 for 250.00. Did not come with the hard case, but didnt expect that for the a amazing price. Delivered to my dealer in 6 days. Currently in NFA jail.
Did you get the one in tan?
they just came back with the deal for $400. never heard of KGM but I couldn't pass it up!!!
The FBI also approved Ruby Ridge, Waco, and dozens of other disasters. So... not exactly a glowing compliment.
@@sjb3460 ...
if your "church is government approved," then possibly you're in the wrong church, or the church is so anemic that it's no threat to the devil's servants.....
Your scope has an illuminated reticle. It’s the knob the eye piece..just add a battery
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Nice. 👌Happy Holidays brother. Big T
Big T ✌️
@ 00:22 Nice smoke ring Adam!!
Nice. Once you get into 308, I can't hear a difference with the APEC opened or closed. Cheers!
Will you take a look at the R6.5 on a 6.5 creed more and the R6 on something like 6arc, 6 gt, or 6creedmore.
How would the Riflespeed gas system work with the KGM Technology R30
How does it compare to the Nomad & Nomad L in sound reduction & recoil reduction? I know the L is heavier.
The R30 is quieter, lighter, less POI shift, and has greater recoil reduction than these.
Thank you 😊
Will you be reviewing the CGS Helios QDTI?
I need one of these & a night force in my life
You and me both pal 🤣🤣
What is largest 30 cal will it work on
300 PRC, or just watch the video?
The only thing I can think of for the cross accuracy difference is that the suppressor itself is acting like a harmonic tuner for your barrel somehow, but I can’t say for sure
Excellent, without a doubt we are adding mass directly coupled to the barrel. Given the numerous variables that come into play I'd say it's more than just a theory, it's a real world concern.
What brand m81 camouflage jacket is hat??
Sure would be nice to have you use a dB meter to compare relative sound levels, not as an absolute accurate figure, but to tell us relative numbers. Yes we all understand meters do not agree with each other, but if you use the SAME meter in the same position to every test, we can have a relative figure. It would really help to be able to rank different cans. Without it....
Wow these comments bunch of blah blah. Thanks for the review!
It still would be nice if you showed the db, the manufacturer's db, so I don't have to go look it up.
and the db of unsilenced.
It doesn't have to be measured just put it down on the bottom with your other info
I put the NSR. Subtract that from the avg dB of unsuppressed “insert cartridge here”
Ah yes, I'm sure the FBI isn't having to pay tax stamps, put on a registry, and be expected to wait a year. Great suppressor nevertheless.
Review a Delta P Design suppressor.
2nd this
Having shot the 30k vs the 30. Is the extra length of the 30 worth it.
I know im way off the sub... But i think a shorty hk 21 would be a great thing. With the right barrel!
@ 15:41 Holy cow 6.5's recoil without a Brake who would've thought!!
Right!
Is this considered a followthrough? or just ported?
I would say just ported as the rest of the baffle stack is traditional. No extra flow like with huxwrx/oss with the helicoil design or cgs with the vented blast chamber.
@@husky701rider9 Appreciate it. It is a cool design and I know of one guy who has one and he seems to like it alot.
Will the focus of production on KGM branded cans interfere with availability of Dead Air cans? It is my understanding that KGM makes Dead Air cans.
It will not. We have scaled our production capacity accordingly.
@@kgmsuppressors That's really good to hear for everyone involved, especially consumers like myself. Now, if you can convince them to come out with a 13.5x1LH Keymicro brake already.
@@ZedGlock hahaha. Product development/release is up to them. Thanks for the kind words though
@@kgmsuppressors why do you sell your products to a terrorist organization?
@Zz Mann You realize every single suppressor and firearm manufacturer sells to gov agencies right? Maybe if you actually bought suppressors instead of shit posting on RUclips all these companies wouldn't have to put food on the table with these large contracts. 🤡
Of course it's going to be loud with the suppressor look how short the barrel is
If they sell to FBI, don't buy from ppl who sell to enemies of the people
Ok but. Pretty much any piece of high speed kit out there has been used by the FBI at some point. From supressors, to guns, to load out gear.
So that rules out a TON of companies.
Whoa...FBI approved!
What movie was that? Killing me I can’t remember it
Speed
That was a dirty 300 blackout lololop
Hopefully PewScience will have a detailed right up on it at some point. I like his reviews a lot.
Full workup from Jay Should be available soon. Testing has already been completed
@@kgmsuppressors most excellent
I'm torn between this and a harvester evo. The evo is $600 and this is still $1000.
Is this thing worth $400 more than the evo?
It is not.
@@srt4fan4u2 thank you
Got em for Fo Fiddy over on Bereli if your still in the market.
email KGM, $450 shipped as of last month
Fruity-Butt-Inspectors Approved!!?? Well hell, That doesn't mean squat too me lol, Cool stuff though man!
Well it should. It means they also tested every other commercially available suppressor and the R30 won. Think about the companies and suppressors that entered. All common and popular names you've heard of. And the R30 came out on top. Thats why I made a big deal about it. I could careless the FBI have it. I care it was put though hell and had to pass stringent tests and won overall.
I stand corrected thank's man, You are right. I see now. Appreciate that.
Rather get suppresser in a bag and save the 75 dollars
Ummm what?
@@nfareview I’ll retype it for you in all caps.
RATHER GET SUPPRESSER IN A BAG AND SAVE THE 75 DOLLARS
(I hope I was able to assist, 👍.)
@@Make-Asylums-Great-Again the fuck does that mean?
@@nfareview He means the presentation case is an unneeded expense.
@@user1acount 😆
I wonder what the cost would be if it was packaged in a recycled cardboard tube?
I’d prefer it that way.
The suppressor is what you went on a 2nd federal gun list for.
The suppressor is what you give the ATF, DHS, WF&G, a guaranteed warrant to storm your house in the middle of the night for.
Nobody cares about a box when you have to give rights up own the boxes contents.
It does sound like a fantastic suppressor.
Ummm what? You don’t give up rights when you buy a silencer 😂 No agency has a right to just come into your home because you bought a silencer. ATF only does inspections on FFL’s. Home based FFL’s and brick and mortar FFL’s. Even if you’re home based FFL they can only inspect the paperwork and firearms related to the business, not personal guns.
Tell me you don’t know shit about how search warrants work, with out telling me you don’t know how search warrants work.
@@ja0298 exactly they are conflating a separate situation where people where buying the parts online like at wish for example with no tax stamp or anything and had ATF knocking at their door completely different situations especially when you buy legal lol the box doesn't determine your rights LOL and in many cases won't even lower the price just gives a higher chance of damaged upon arrival lol
@@Dgafsranger
you mean those cheap "fuel filters" or "solvent traps" along with a "tube and cone set."........yep, drilled that last hole and before the last chip hit the ground the dog was shot, the wife holding the baby behind the door was shot, the side of the house blown open and 20 stormtroopers jumped thru all the windows......they even took the chips...
Super. Ist Ruhig.
My only question is why in the hell does the fbi need a suppressor for?
Killing law abiding American citizens
When they need to suicide political dissidents.
@@farklestaxbaum4945 and like 25k dogs a year
Sad day KGM is going LE MIL only
Only kinda... they manufacture dead air's cans, and a few others (daniel defenses new can if im not mistaken)
@@streamylc no r30 for civilian sales other than what's left on the market. Sucks for me as I'm awaiting my ffl approval and then sot so won't be any for me to get to sell to clients.
@@LPKoutdoorsportsouch. Looks like I ordered mine at the right time. Still waiting on that damn stamp though...
@stravwatson1952 there are still some civilian cans left in the market but yeah le/mil only. I'm an sot so I can still get them for my local leos but it's not as much fun that way.
dBa scale is logarithmic, a 3dB change in sound pressure level results in a doubling of perceived sound.
A 3 db difference is double the sound pressure. It takes about 10 db to sound twice as loud
Yes, the scale is logarithmic, anyone who's been around suppressors knows this. It's also not that perceivable and damn near impossible with the human ear when shooting supersonic cartridges. A meter will pick it up, a human most likely will not.
@@nfareview
Are you talking about a human picking up 3db difference
I'd think 2-3db is barely perceived and noticeable if used side by side.
But by the time you take a can off and put another one to shoot for comparison you've prolly already lost that perception.
@@clintmullins8670 Subsonic you can pick it up. Supersonic masks any noticeable change.
@@nfareview For Sure.
Yeah that looks nice but the box isn't worth a crap I'd rather saves me some money and just get a nice tool
That's what I was thinking. Throw it in a ziplock for all I care
Great video! It’ll be my first!
Looks like the new Daniel Defense sg30 lol
You have that backwards? 😉
They are the OEM for DD
@@nfareview How would you say the SG30 compared to the Dead Air Nomad 30 in terms of sound reduction for 300 Blackout in the AR-15 platform?
Would I be correct in assuming the SG30 had less gas blowback to the face due to it's design.
Can I save $100 and just have them send it to me in a cardboard box. That'd be great
Exactly, I'm not paying for a case that I will not use lol
I ended up with 2, they both came in cardboard boxes....
They were also the end of the production and were half price.
Won't those set screws be prone to carbon locking? Also why the f does the fb eye need a sniper rifle program?
Yea...I wanna hear more about that
"why the f does the fb eye need a sniper rifle program?"
Hostage Rescue Team ? Their SWAT teams ?
So they can press charges from 200 yards.
@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz 😆
@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is awesome to hear how well that suppresser works. I have to ask though. Knowing how there made and the materials used why in God's name are suppressors so expensive? I bet this can be made for 150$ maybe less. A quality rifle is cheaper than alot of suppressors and that's insane. Think of a decent ar bone stock. 1000$ all day. Then u get this small piece of metal with literally 2% of the work put in for same price. I want one badly but the cost is stupidly high to me. Seems like pricing based on its "cool" factor
It might have something to do with the insane regulations and probably also has to do with supply and demand. There isn't a huge demand so supply is low thus price is high? Idk, suppressors should not be nfa items and the NFA is unconstitutional anyway.
Titanium is very difficult to work and regulations are very expensive to manage... but you are right we should be able to get suppressors that work on rifles for 200 or 300 bucks, without any tax stamps or special permits (like we do need in Switzerland)
I'd bet there's $200 in raw titanium. Then they have to be machined, welded, and coated.
They're probably $400 to make. And they have to pay for the tooling somehow.
You can buy $200 cans in europe, but they're considered semi-disposable and don't last long. Because of the NFA we want something that works very well and is a lifetime of use. We spend 5x more, but we get 10x the use out of them also.
Wow
Dude really doesn't go with anything you have ??? Put a scope coat on it... this isn't ruepauls runway lol
I have a question. You call yourself a reviewer(NFA Review Channel). To me, the goal of a reviewer is to bring all information they possibly can to their audience so the audience can make an informed decision on what product to buy or not buy. So I find it rather strange when you say you will not review a product from a company, especially a very prominent company (*cough* SilencerCo *cough*), unless they first reach out to you first. How can we, as your audience, take what you say seriously when the only products you review are ones cherry picked and sent to you by a given company?
I used to work with SiCo at the beginning of my channel. My point of contact there and I had a falling out. They never mended that when he left. It's not my place to go around soliciting products from companies. If they want a review, they know where to find me. If not, there are plenty of Instagrammers begging for products. Watch their reviews. 👍
@@nfareview I don't want to watch their reviews, I want to watch YOUR reviews.
@@the1andonlySherlock then go to “videos” on my channel and scroll back a couple years. You’ll see a ton of SiCo videos. 🍻
@@nfareview I've seen them all already, I want to see videos on their new cans, like the 36M and now the 46M, because there's very few good quality reviews covering them on RUclips.
@@the1andonlySherlock I don’t know what to tell you brother. I can’t afford to buy 4 suppressors a month. Do you understand what it takes to produce one of my reviews? 4 days of work. Studio, edit, range, edit, post. Add ammo expenses and I have 30 man hours plus ammo just in one video. Imagine adding the cost of the suppressor on top. For what? I don’t make $ on the RUclips ads. Want to support the channel? Head to Patreon and bring 100 friends to the Gold tier. Then I’ll buy all the SiCo suppressors you want to see reviewed 🤣 Until then I’ll stay the course 🍻
So we are still pretending the Fb I are interested in justice, ok got it
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So is it safe to say you will never address the question of why not use a decent dB meter, not as an absolute value, but to use the same meter in the same conditions so we can have an OBJECTIVE quantitative measure to determine RELATIVE loudness between tested suppressors. Please answer the question directly. And I want to add I really appreciate your videos!
I’ve used BK2009 meters in old videos. It adds a TON of work. I’ve yet to see a company in this day and age, fudging numbers. Not to mention I can meter a can here in FL on Dec1st and then in Georgia on Dec2 with the same ammo and host and it’ll meter 3-5dB different. This is why I hold my annual Suppressed Fest events. So you can come out and demo cans live in person from a plethora of vendors.
@@nfareview I think it's safe to say- That it's safe to say.... Wouldn't You Say Mr. Review'n all thinggs NFA 😀🤙🤙
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He has explained in previous videos that to him it's about the tone of the combination more than absolute dB numbers. Are you or anyone familiar with A weighing and B weighing of professional dB meters? I am and what it means in real world is it's about the tone, the numbers are only good for comparing tests in the same environment
@@jeffreystroman2811 Yes, only in the same environments- it would help greatly to give an idea of relative loudness. Of course the tone makes a difference, but that can be commented on. The mic and internet sound make them all sound quite similar volume. You can't tell me a 121 db sounds the same as 1dB.,..well you could, but you would be wrong. heh. Don't have a stroke over that comment.
Because there's only really 1 meter that can even capture a gunshot. All the rest are far too slow and will generally show the same values at every gunshot. You would be upset if they all metered 120db with or without a can right?
Good for calibers .223win to .300norma.
Tf is .223win???
Typo. Happens when you work 100hrs a week. Try it sometime.
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$1000 doll hairs is WAY too much for a suppressor.....
Well it's full titanium construction built for precision shooting and being sold to a government agency.
I'd say 1g is pretty reasonable. My SureFire Socom 762 was 1100 on sale. It isn't quiet. It's heavy af. But it's built like a tank.
@@atadbitnefarious1387 The fact a ton of them are being sold should drive the price down, not the other way around. Economies of scale are a thing.
@@someguy5035 no, they have limited production capacity and limited machine space. they are maximizing their profit per machine by keeping them running, but at some point you raise the price to where it stabilizes the machine capacity vs profit.
It's an NFA item, it's going to cost more to get something well made from exotic materials. Priced raw titanium lately?
I have a Sig Sauer scope with the HellFire QuadPlex red dot in the center with multiple brightness settings. WHISKEY3 4-12X50 MM SOW34205
I will not buy any product from any company which supplies the enemy.
Going into manufacturing your own weapons and ammo huh? 🤔😆
Stupidest comment of the video, hands down.
@@MiguelACurlSr247365 Import ammo only. Most civilian gun companies have literally zero Fed Gov contracts. And between 80% lowers and my access to three million dollars of CNC equipment I'm doing pretty ok. I'm making a completely billet upper for the lulz this next quarter.
Don’t buy federal ammunition then.
@@TNCombatMedic yup
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The fact that they sell to the brown shirts ensures I won't be buying one.
Let's go Brandon.
Better not buy any guns, silencers or Night Vision then. Oh and ammo. Oh and armor. Throw rocks in self defense.
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@@nfareview Isn't using a firearm just throwing rocks, with extra steps?
@@richardhanck972 pretty much.
don't buy a dead air can then, they make them as well as a few others.
fbi approved… I’m out. Oh, and I live in comifornia.
You lost your right to an opinion when you said California.
@kenny wickman1 well, when most people say “comifornia” they are implying California.
Not having a silencer is your choice. I choose to have one in case I get in a sniper v. sniper scenario with the FBI. Why should I be the one to disturb the neighbors as I take out tyrants?
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