The ULTIMATE Search Engine Tier List (Based Tier to Surveillance Tier)

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  • Опубликовано: 28 янв 2025

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  • @MirrorMansionQ
    @MirrorMansionQ Год назад +1481

    these tier lists are awesome, i hope we see more for things like email and vpn services.

    • @EricMurphyxyz
      @EricMurphyxyz  Год назад +236

      Good ideas! We'll see :)

    • @junedabat
      @junedabat Год назад +12

      @@EricMurphyxyz If we're talking about email services, Infomaniak may be an interesting one to check out

    • @TobyMayne1
      @TobyMayne1 Год назад +21

      same i really want to see an email one. for vpn i think mullvad is prob the best

    • @MirrorMansionQ
      @MirrorMansionQ Год назад +4

      @@TobyMayne1 sounds about right, but is it normie friendly though? I hear the speeds aren't the best and it's basically not for streaming.

    • @smithy2365
      @smithy2365 Год назад +2

      Tom Spark on yt does good videos on VPN with tier list, I recommend :)

  • @doctoonn
    @doctoonn Год назад +569

    "it gets it from yahoo, which is bing, and bing, which is also bing, you can see all of them are bing"
    P1 - Wait everything is bing?
    P2 - always has been

    • @RealUniCat
      @RealUniCat 4 месяца назад +1

      Hi

    • @delmarhollenbach
      @delmarhollenbach 4 месяца назад

      Do you feel a little greasy when you swallow?

    • @JTient
      @JTient 3 месяца назад

      Bro American here I totally simp for Ya dex it's like Google used to be just don't look up Putin you're good.

    • @suungjinu
      @suungjinu 3 месяца назад

      @@JTient lmao wht happens if u look up putin

    • @paavoilves5416
      @paavoilves5416 Месяц назад +1

      @@suungjinu probably Russian propaganda

  • @AKABeestYT
    @AKABeestYT Год назад +1165

    The main reason I personally have Yandex bookmarked is because of its suprisingly accurate results. Not only is the reverse image search well beyond google images, the simple search terms give me exactly what I need on the first page. Mostly looking for leaks and torrents that other search engines hide.

    • @J-_-S
      @J-_-S Год назад +1

      most torrent sites intall spywares, malwares, making connection bridges to uknown IP. First you need to know which torrent sites are safe in order to download torrent without searching through search engines lol

    • @legitimo1788
      @legitimo1788 Год назад +158

      Duck and Yandex was where I found better image results, google show more memes and strange things, and Brave didn't even has an image search

    • @UhOhUmm
      @UhOhUmm Год назад +1

      Google murdered the reverse image search, it worked exactly like Yandex, but they changed it to "detect" the item you're looking for instead of the exact image and so it doesn't work at all anymore.

    • @nameless_fairy
      @nameless_fairy Год назад +1

      ​@@legitimo1788 AFAIK reverse image search from google was manually gimped. It was very good, actually.

    • @yagami1160
      @yagami1160 Год назад

      i am using yandex for pirating stuff and finding information banned from google, but looking at main page in russian it is all propaganda it is everywhere

  • @djongaGod
    @djongaGod Год назад +377

    One thing I'd like to add: this tier list is based only from searches in english. If you search in another language, most of the tools in the "based or excellent" tier would not be so good.

    • @StarfoxHUN
      @StarfoxHUN Год назад +50

      This is so sadly true. When Brave search released this was the main reason i had to drop it.

    • @furdiburd
      @furdiburd Год назад +22

      ​@@StarfoxHUNat least its now soo much better than its beta version. I use it in hungarian and the results are localised (pre set fake gps ofc) so i get like the hun edition of wikipedia at fist ect.

    • @caiofranco2664
      @caiofranco2664 Год назад +16

      @@StarfoxHUN dropped for the same reason, but recently i picked it up again, and i had no problems so far

    • @O5MO
      @O5MO Год назад

      I am from Ukraine and frequently search in russian. I've been using Brave for a long time, and it works decent. Although i mostly search in english, its not bad in other languages.

    • @a_wild_Kirillian
      @a_wild_Kirillian Год назад

      I don't understand this. They use Google's index. Both Startpage and Brave work fine in my native language currently.

  • @CorneliusCornbread
    @CorneliusCornbread Год назад +283

    4:16 I REALLY wish you mentioned Brave search's best feature: Discussions. Brave search will actually show you related forum posts related to your questions on Reddit and other forums too ocasionally. Reddit for many people, me included, is where I go when I say "I want software that everyone else uses" or "I want advice and I want it to be rated based on general public opinion." It's insanely helpful and can often times be a significantly better source of information than articles (which I'm realizing is a really sad reality now that I'm writing it out).

    • @Eichro
      @Eichro Год назад +10

      This aged tragically

    • @kingby8499
      @kingby8499 Год назад +19

      @@Eichro what happened? genuienly don't know

    • @Grion007
      @Grion007 Год назад +23

      @@kingby8499 Im guessing it was the reddit blackout that happened a few weeks back

    • @anonymousbloke1
      @anonymousbloke1 Год назад +6

      Who in their right mind would use Reddit over 4chan for something like that?

    • @Mentocthemindtaker
      @Mentocthemindtaker Год назад

      @@anonymousbloke1 ...anyone who doesn't want to deal with trolls and shitposting I guess 🤷‍♂

  • @sugarpolecat4781
    @sugarpolecat4781 Год назад +24

    Google really holds a tight grip on this, cause I didn't even know there are THAT many search engines.

  • @MaxPanic
    @MaxPanic Год назад +641

    Duckduckgo should be in the surveillance tier. They host on AWS and AWS are a US government contractor. Everything that flows through AWS is likely handed over to the NSA.

    • @shoes4clues955
      @shoes4clues955 Год назад +174

      they were also revealed to be selling data to microsoft a year or so back

    • @MrEdrftgyuji
      @MrEdrftgyuji Год назад

      And they censor only one side of the Russia/Ukraine war propaganda.

    • @jonteet
      @jonteet Год назад +79

      good luck avoiding AWS lmao

    • @MaxPanic
      @MaxPanic Год назад +143

      @@jonteet It’s not that hard to avoid AWS. What’s hard is avoiding US government boot lickers.

    • @PhobosTK
      @PhobosTK Год назад +48

      All US-based sites are bound by the patriot act anyway.
      Same goes for EU-based sites.
      You can run, but you can't escape

  • @paulcrandall2534
    @paulcrandall2534 Год назад +68

    So glad I found this video. I've been using DDG full time for the past 4 years. The search results are just getting worse over time. I also search for a lot of technical information and I'm constantly finding myself needing to search Google instead. It's frustrating. It's also frustrating when these search engines are openly biased admit to down-ranking results or pushing a specific narrative or agenda. Let me be the one to research various topics and come to my own conclusions instead of trying to tell me what to think.

  • @Alorand
    @Alorand Год назад +124

    I definitely use Yandex for reverse image searches. I guess I wouldn't mind an anonymous frontend so that I could get the controversial politicized stuff from them too. What I am really hoping to find is a better search for RUclips videos that have just been posted. I remember when the Notre Dame Cathedral was burning and RUclips would only show you videos from official mainstream news channels instead of Paris residents who uploaded their unique perspective.

    • @echt114
      @echt114 Год назад

      This seems to be true for almost any news event, especially if you're looking for vids of an explosion, crash, tornado, or other thing they'd apparently like to censor. So instead of getting the actual video you're looking for, you're flooded with news outlets that just have vids talking about it.

    • @SuicidalMassTragedyXD
      @SuicidalMassTragedyXD Год назад

      Yeah. I'm pretty sure they don't care what you do long as you're not plotting an attack on Russia. So I don't even care if they spy and collect whatever, what are they gonna do with it?

    • @alexhauser5043
      @alexhauser5043 10 месяцев назад

      Yandex is owned by a Russian company. They're not beholden to western governments. Putin won't tell the CIA that you're into catgirls or that you larp as a traditionalist Catholic.

  • @ericstoverink6579
    @ericstoverink6579 5 месяцев назад +10

    I remember the OG search engines, when the Internet first started becoming a household thing. This was all before google. You had Yahoo, (before it became the cesspit of the internet), Lycos, Webcrawler, Ask Jeeves, Hotbot, and Alta Vista. Ah, the good 'ol days.

  • @-bazoona3654
    @-bazoona3654 Год назад +29

    this video is sponsored by kirby

  • @gokublack8342
    @gokublack8342 Год назад +15

    Microsoft and Google: You call it personal data I call it...free real estate

  • @ripleyhrgiger4669
    @ripleyhrgiger4669 Год назад +9

    I know this is an older video of yours so maybe you won't see the comment. But, I wanted to say that I really love your videos. These aren't just tier list they're actually informational, instructional, and very well presented. You have a very good speaking voice, you're clear, concise, fun, and you don't take yourself too seriously and aren't afraid to poke a little fun at yourself and those of us who do sometimes go nuts with privacy. The best part though is that you're not pushing any agenda towards cryptocurrency (like some other "privacy" focused channels) and you seem to genuinely want to educate us on how we can take steps to make our online experiences more private and enjoyable.
    Thank you for putting these videos together and taking the time to bring us something that is entertaining and educational.

  • @pauljs75
    @pauljs75 Год назад +144

    Mojeek seems like it could be a good obscure topic search if it's bringing less common results to the front. The other searches would bury that stuff behind link farms or more popular stuff with similar sounding names.
    So the criteria putting it lower on the list in the video may be different for some people. (It could have gotten an asterisk in that regard if it's consistent in what it did here.)

    • @AngraMainiiu
      @AngraMainiiu Год назад +22

      I am tired of search engines giving me the exact same crap about one result, you cant even look deeper in the pages due to the fact that most cut it off after the 5th page or so...

    • @belnonaodh1520
      @belnonaodh1520 Год назад +11

      Same. I've been loving Mojeek for years!
      It's the same story for their images. They're all from royalty-free image sites, but I like that, because I can copy and paste images from it into projects without getting into trouble!

    • @friendlyfire7861
      @friendlyfire7861 Год назад +6

      It's definitely good on certain occasions, especially for controversial things.

    • @agentoranj5858
      @agentoranj5858 Год назад +3

      Seems like it's better to keep a library of search engines bookmarked for different purposes.

    • @StookyDoo22
      @StookyDoo22 4 месяца назад

      Mojeek is wonderful for finding fun obscure websites

  • @Damariobros
    @Damariobros Год назад +162

    Is there a good search engine that hasn't killed off search operators like inclusion, exclusion, and/or/xor, website filters, date, exact phrase, etc? I used to be a power user on Google and could usually find pretty much whatever I was looking for, and I was absolutely pissed when not just Google, not just Bing, not just RUclips, but pretty much every website across the entire internet seemed to all collectively kill off their search operators as part of going "minimalist." I'm still pissed because I can't ever seem to find anything I'm looking for nowadays.

    • @friendlyfire7861
      @friendlyfire7861 Год назад +27

      Absolutely. I notice Google was getting crappy are 2014. It's curated and confining now. What used to be like a laser beam is now just fogginess.

    • @SimonSCJP
      @SimonSCJP Год назад +10

      What do you mean? operators still work okay. sometimes not as accurate as before though, like not 100% respecting the operators but it's not like they're dead

    • @DragonsEatTofu
      @DragonsEatTofu 10 месяцев назад +24

      Yes, operators do sometimes work. But I’ve noticed that search engines still push really hard to show results outside of my perimeters. Lots of “did you actually mean to search for this instead???” So unless I am searching something mainstream, they really hesitate to show what I specified. I used to be able to search small personal blogs with ease but now it’s so hard to find those little gems even when I’m knowingly exact wording from those sites.

    • @womp47
      @womp47 10 месяцев назад

      @@DragonsEatTofu a good thing to remember is if youre trying to solve a problem or something, always put "reddit" at the end or just any sort of forum you think would answer it. whenever i search something, its hard to find an accurate result, but looking on reddit specifically usually answers that because pretty much every question or problem ive had has been asked before, and reddit is just the biggest place to ask things.

    • @Mercurio-Morat-Goes-Bughunting
      @Mercurio-Morat-Goes-Bughunting 10 месяцев назад

      @@SimonSCJP Operators are totally dead on DuckDuckGo. and consecutive terms are treated as OR() by default instead of AND() in order to bloat hitlists and, like, pretend that the search engine has lot's of information when, in fact, it has nothing of use or value.

  • @gamingtonight1526
    @gamingtonight1526 Год назад +22

    I have been using Ecosia for years - happy with the results, and helped plant 40 trees!

    • @shemyaza8934
      @shemyaza8934 7 месяцев назад +11

      If you believe you planted 40 trees, go look up the word 'naive' in the dictionary.

    • @valetudan234
      @valetudan234 5 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@shemyaza8934why?

  • @katcirce
    @katcirce Год назад +25

    I'd enjoy to see an academic search engine tier list from you. Google scholar has a chokehold on the academic community

    • @abcdefg-hv2ks
      @abcdefg-hv2ks 6 месяцев назад

      I use Refseek! It's pretty accurate and im satisfied.

  • @SauceyRedHN
    @SauceyRedHN Год назад +305

    On the point of DuckDuckGo search results sometimes being useless, I personally solve that issue with just adding the site filter thing set to Reddit at the end, because a lot of my searches are things that probably has answers on some subreddit. Although, I don't ever really have an issue with bad search results, or at least not bad enough that I want to switch.
    As for the controversies, they haven't done anything that bothers me enough to switch.

    • @Damariobros
      @Damariobros Год назад

      Now that the ceo is killing reddit, that trick will start to work less and less, and while subreddits are still protesting that trick doesn't work at all. I'm finding more and more often, sometimes being almost every single search I make, I'm getting completely garbage search results. It's becoming rather infuriating actually, just how bad the results are getting, especially when I really REALLY need to find something. The more I need to find something the more garbage the results are and the more likely it is I have to ask the question on Reddit.

    • @muriilouwu
      @muriilouwu Год назад +14

      When he said that a lot of times he saw himself using google to find what he was looking for, got me. Every single day I need go use google 1 or 2 times to find some good results, its time to try something new now 😅

    • @nou1592
      @nou1592 Год назад +21

      sometimes ddg shows me the best results in my life. Like, those things, that other searchers won't show me, even if I make a backflip 11000 times.
      On the other hand, sometimes ddg shows me THAT SHIT, that other searchers will never show me xD

    • @NothingXemnas
      @NothingXemnas Год назад +12

      I don't know if it is me, maybe it comes from how i make my own search, but not once i found the needs to filter it down to Reddit. Perhaps I just have different interests that are better documented in websites and wikis (which are user kept and curated anyway), but Reddit simply shows up if the result i seek is harder to find anywhere else, which isn't THAT common to happen either.

    • @kawaiihikari0
      @kawaiihikari0 Год назад

      @@muriilouwuuse google your attempts for so called privacy is embarrassing. The NSA has every packet of data about you. They know everything about you doesn’t matter what security measures you think will help protect you use whatever because nothing you do on the Internet is secure, so use Google use TikTok use whatever you want you’re just wasting your time thinking, the government or others won’t know what you’re up to go research Pegasus go research the leaked documents within the United States stating that they’re allowed to tap your phone and access your emails you’re wasting your time is what I’m trying to say

  • @ToeStankin
    @ToeStankin Год назад +15

    My man, this is very very very much appreciated! I loathe google because the results have been absolute crap over the past few years, and I liked DDG, but Im kinda done using that as well

  • @AdroSlice
    @AdroSlice Год назад +44

    I'm not sure you mentioned this, but the main downside of SearX is that if you do self-host it, it gets less private the less people use it.

    • @luketeam5
      @luketeam5 Год назад +6

      Or you can use a public instance

    • @Kokurorokuko
      @Kokurorokuko 6 месяцев назад

      It also is extremely slow and images there suck ass

  • @bradh.johnson2113
    @bradh.johnson2113 Год назад +127

    I dropped DDG when they started imposing their (Bing's) definition of mis/dis-information. Bill Gate's definition and my definition vary greatly.

  • @buddah1978egypt
    @buddah1978egypt Год назад +128

    Yandex is the king of reverse image search for sure. Its essential for romance scammer exposure

    • @IndieAuthorX
      @IndieAuthorX Год назад +2

      Is it really hard to identify a romance scammer?

    • @buddah1978egypt
      @buddah1978egypt Год назад +14

      @@IndieAuthorX some can be very crafty, but the majority use models

    • @dreamystone
      @dreamystone Год назад +8

      This comment creates more questions that it answers...

    • @buddah1978egypt
      @buddah1978egypt Год назад +16

      @@dreamystone unless you are a scammer, just answers

    • @dreamystone
      @dreamystone Год назад +2

      @@buddah1978egypt It really doesn't answer how the first use case you think to mention for a search engine is catching catfish. Is that your hobby? Do you have a vendetta against them? Have you sworn an oath to protect the good people of the internet that are just trying to find love? What's your tragic hero back story? Would you list spandex under casual clothing?
      I could honestly go on.

  • @stickman-1
    @stickman-1 Год назад +35

    Very, very helpful video. I miss the old days of Infoseek, Altavista, Lycos, Dogpile, Metasearch, Webcrawler, etc. But this gives me hope someone will come up with a new, true search engine.

    • @rz1_1221
      @rz1_1221 Год назад +5

      Lycos and Webcrawler are still around- Webcrawler still mostly intact, but with a new logo that was created in 2018, and Lycos is owned by some company I do not really trust

    • @stickman-1
      @stickman-1 Год назад

      @@rz1_1221 Thanks. I'll check them out.

    • @DoomsayerStudios
      @DoomsayerStudios Год назад +1

      Dogpile was the shit.

    • @stst77
      @stst77 11 месяцев назад

      I remember when a yahoo search was precisely what you wanted and had endless pages of results.
      Then the results started getting more limiting so I went to Dog Pile and that made up for it.
      Then Dog Pile disappeared and I switched to Google until realizing how little privacy I had there so I found DDG but lately the search results there are just pathetic to put it bluntly.
      I am thinking of switching to brave but I don’t like that they use Google which limits its search results with a leftist agenda.

    • @luisaguilar5343
      @luisaguilar5343 7 месяцев назад

      Dogpile is still around

  • @nobelphoenix
    @nobelphoenix 8 месяцев назад +6

    When we search kirby, the way our engine "knows" which kirby we are talking about is due to how they store data in the first place. If we say "kirby is a very *popular* character and yet I'm getting a diner's website as a result" then we mean it's okay for the browser to tally up the results. In a 100% private search engine no term can be popular. So what we get must be a chaotic mess of results with basically a string match. Am I wrong in thinking so?

    • @navienta
      @navienta Месяц назад +1

      kirby as a character just happens to be the most popular thing called kirby so it should be first. If i searched ghost the first result should be a mythological/supernatural entity right? if you were being catered to then maybe you'd get like ghost from call of duty or something

  • @mrsansiverius2083
    @mrsansiverius2083 Год назад +43

    SearXNG is like searx but with a more tolerable UI.

    • @EricMurphyxyz
      @EricMurphyxyz  Год назад +11

      Agreed, the UI is so much better

    • @angusmacgyver
      @angusmacgyver Год назад +1

      Seems like pretty minor changes what I looked briefly.

    • @KBMNVLpNdLumkstz
      @KBMNVLpNdLumkstz Год назад +2

      @@angusmacgyver I tried both and searxng seems like a better choice for low end servers and devices. Also it's faster than searx.

    • @gijshollebolle
      @gijshollebolle Год назад

      have people actually read the github repo of searx or am i the only user that actually cares about privacy and finding stuff on the web with a selfhosted searx engine?
      Is searx for me?
      Are you privacy conscious user? Then yes.
      In searx we decided to double down on being privacy respecting. We are picking engine changes from SearxNG, but we are not implementing engine detailed monitoring and not adding a new UI that relies on Javascript.
      If you are willing to give up some privacy respecting features, we encourage you to adopt SearxNG. Searx is targeted for privacy conscious users who run their instances locally, instead of using public instances.

    • @garyjonjon
      @garyjonjon 4 месяца назад

      the results are garbage. just type trump and the results are cnn, msnbc etc..... not the same as searx.

  • @giachiz5510
    @giachiz5510 Год назад +7

    This is amazing. Thank s for putting this together. Any view on Kagi?

  • @thejoman9011
    @thejoman9011 Год назад +26

    as a minor, google has a different privacy policy for me and other people under 18, if you have a google account and are under 18, as far as i know, as of 2023 google is no longer allowed to target ads to child accounts, so i only get generic ads, which is annoying but nice to know that they collect less data than normal.

    • @asadfarraj
      @asadfarraj Год назад +9

      The thing is, I had to set my age above 18, because of... you know, *stuff*

  • @GraveUypo
    @GraveUypo Год назад +1

    ah, this video is a gift from the heavens. i was trying to figure this stuff out just the other day, but i don't even know that many search engines. ty

  • @skayland
    @skayland Год назад +42

    4 months have passed and no, AI has not revolutionized searching.

    • @leonfa259
      @leonfa259 Год назад +1

      It kind of has

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 8 месяцев назад +15

      Eight months have passed and it definitely still hasn't!

    • @Korobka737_
      @Korobka737_ 5 месяцев назад +7

      11 months later and now i know that i need to eat at least one rock a day

    • @chainerdets
      @chainerdets 4 месяца назад

      1 year and women need to smoke during their pregnancy

    • @skayland
      @skayland Месяц назад +1

      a year and 4 months have passed and AI has actually made searching worse

  • @gunnertj287
    @gunnertj287 5 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks!

  • @valerianmp
    @valerianmp Год назад +56

    Honestly Yandex ain't bad when all you want to do with it is reverse search some anime art to find the sauce. They tends to be much better than Google even

    • @swagmoneybuge
      @swagmoneybuge Год назад +5

      what kind of art in particular? 😂

    • @ameron3136
      @ameron3136 Год назад

      @@swagmoneybuge any of them 👍

    • @bishnoi969
      @bishnoi969 Год назад

      @@swagmoneybugehentai

    • @YourNormalProgram
      @YourNormalProgram Год назад +19

      ​@@swagmoneybuge"Hen Tie", I find it odd that people reverse search anime out of all things to find chicken themed ties.

    • @mgord9518
      @mgord9518 Год назад +8

      "anime art" "sauce"
      You can just say spank bank

  • @linkhidalgogato
    @linkhidalgogato Год назад +69

    i think its also worth pointing out about duckduckgo that they censor results based on their politics when the invasion of ukraine started they proudly announced they would start censoring russian sources and just russians in general, which regardless of what u think of the conflict this is bad just as a matter of principle.

    • @Adadele333
      @Adadele333 5 дней назад

      Yeah let's allow propaganda and outright lies! Now that I know this, I'll probably continue using ddg. Thanks

  • @Holland1994D
    @Holland1994D Год назад +5

    27:10 reminds me of the firewall my school tried. Almost everything useful was blocked so we were not even able to open some wikipedia pages because certain keywords. The firewall just lasted 1 week haha

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 8 месяцев назад +3

      Ah yes, when you can't research any information regarding the German "Staatsexamen", because your boomer high school teacher who volunteers as the school's system administrator on the side set up a "safe search" filter that blocks every query containing the letter sequence s-e-x 😂
      Even though "Staatsexamen" is a combination of "des Staates", the genitve case of _ger_ "state" (noun) and "examen", from Latin for "examination", thus has nothing to do with sex(ual intercourse).

  • @damunzy
    @damunzy Год назад +9

    Google search results relevance have gotten worse recently (last few years). They might still be the best but Google from a few years ago was better

    • @belstar1128
      @belstar1128 Год назад +4

      Seems like these days you got to use a lot of search engines because you never know which will be best. non are as good as old google but a lot are on par with modern google .

    • @theshadowking3198
      @theshadowking3198 4 месяца назад +1

      Bro it’s gotten so bad I especially noticed this when I was researching for a project I asked a question and they answered with an answer for a completely different answer

  • @wannabedal-adx458
    @wannabedal-adx458 Год назад +53

    Great info and great list. Between this list and your browser list I might start using Brave search only within a Firefox variant. I do kinda think Startpage and Swisscows are interesting. Honestly, not sure why you gave Whoogle such a high rating. I didn't here anything about their privacy policy or actions to support privacy.

    • @juanpaulofricke1506
      @juanpaulofricke1506 Год назад +29

      its open source and self hosted, exactly the same privacy policy or actions to support privacy as searX

    • @energeticgorilla
      @energeticgorilla Год назад

      how’s the experience been? i’m thinking of doing the same.

    • @JohnSmith-vn8dm
      @JohnSmith-vn8dm Год назад

      @@energeticgorillaI find Brave search to generally be pretty good. Not quite Google level but good enough for 95% of my searches. On rare occasions I do use the !g bang to get results from Google.

    • @friendlyfire7861
      @friendlyfire7861 Год назад +2

      Brave turned out to be totally woke and more biased than Google, unfortunately.

    • @juanpaulofricke1506
      @juanpaulofricke1506 Год назад

      @@friendlyfire7861 do you have some examples of why it is worse than google? It`s looking like there is no reliable search site :/

  • @Scoo
    @Scoo Год назад +5

    Mojeek seems to return the most Jack Kirby results, this should bump it up one tier.

  • @Aetohatir
    @Aetohatir Год назад +5

    kinda crazy how yahoo isn't even mentioned anymore

  • @zhihao1123
    @zhihao1123 Год назад +2

    I recently discovered your channel and liked your content keep it up! 🥳

  • @weridplusho
    @weridplusho Год назад +29

    Very accurate tier list from my own attempts. I've used, and liked, Qwant. It may have been Bing but it gave me nice results. Shame they wernt the way of DDG.
    I also tried Yandex. The problem is that it's very finicky at times - good for general results but not so good at anything else.
    Searx is the best, with Startpage a close second. Brave is aight, feels like DDG did back in the day, but I barely used it. Guess that's gonna change now. lol

    • @ecnop9961
      @ecnop9961 Год назад

      Yeah, after using brave, duck duck go and qwant it was qwant that gave me the most reliable result, even though I was sometime forced to hop on google to get something too specific.

    • @PCsSabotage
      @PCsSabotage Год назад

      Give a shot to swurl it's different and good. There's also kagi (a premium engine) which is stupid but they have a free trial. But if you want just a simple and secure search engine I suggest alohafind it's so good but not pretty looking

    • @hughjass2534
      @hughjass2534 Год назад +3

      Strange notice, but RUclips actually didn't display the two replies this comment had at my time of posting. This is a commonality with Facebook in how it lists that replies exist but does not display them in the general UI. Currently using Brave for browsing.

  • @somebody69747
    @somebody69747 9 месяцев назад +1

    Love these tier list videos. Keep making em

  • @NerfedOnGod
    @NerfedOnGod Год назад +42

    An Opera GX sponsor here would be legendary

    • @smirkjuice
      @smirkjuice 11 месяцев назад +22

      Too bad that it's 1. Spyware, and 2. it's not an engine

  • @Monkeymario.
    @Monkeymario. 5 месяцев назад +4

    0:18 Google used to be the most accurate but it's not accurate anymore

  • @Dragonfire511
    @Dragonfire511 Год назад +6

    Yandex is pretty good for *whispering* pirated software search.

    • @DoomsayerStudios
      @DoomsayerStudios Год назад +3

      Russians are the best at pirating shit, lol. Used to download so many mp3s from a Russian site...

  • @Eduardo1007
    @Eduardo1007 Год назад +1

    Do you believe in the disabling of analytics shown at 6:58? If so, would it not be reasonable to believe in disabling analytics on Chrome, Edge, etc?

    • @Eduardo1007
      @Eduardo1007 Год назад

      Honest question, not baiting

  • @sethbessinger2025
    @sethbessinger2025 Год назад +4

    Awesome list! When you were on Metager, I noticed the Warren County Public Library. I actually live in Bowling Green. Anyway, awesome job! Hope your channel grows!

  • @patrickday4206
    @patrickday4206 4 месяца назад +3

    So we basically have Google and bing with flavors

  • @FengLengshun
    @FengLengshun Год назад +18

    After DDG tanked my trust in it, I just moved to Brave. I honestly can't live without Bangs anymore at this point, it's just so much faster to be able to directly search the AUR or nixpkgs over navigating manually to the site or even using Google, and I'm glad to have a Bang search that's also attached to a... semi-usable search engine that's somewha more trustable than DDG (for now?).
    I still need to use Google sometimes, but if I'm just searching for Reddit post then Brave is usually fine (though lately I need to use Google more for that for their Cached Pages - I wish there's a Cached Pages and Proxy/Preview on Brave as well).

    • @fisheatergaming
      @fisheatergaming Год назад

      I dual boot arch and nix currently oh

    • @mytech6779
      @mytech6779 Год назад

      DDG has bangs, but if you trust them it isn't super relevant.

  • @tornadus_nizko857
    @tornadus_nizko857 Год назад +2

    What tier would Gibiru and Search Encrypt be on?

  • @22I22
    @22I22 Год назад +8

    So despite having one of the best search results and by far the best reverse image search, yandex is bad because russia?

    • @mathiasrryba
      @mathiasrryba Год назад +1

      Russian government who owns Yandex isn't a trustworthy source of information.
      You'd be closer to the truth taking everything they say and negating it.

    • @PhobosTK
      @PhobosTK Год назад

      @@mathiasrryba and the US has bing and google by the b@lls (or the other way around). Should the same principle be applied?

    • @mathiasrryba
      @mathiasrryba Год назад

      @@PhobosTK yes

    • @mgord9518
      @mgord9518 Год назад +6

      This rating is largely based on privacy. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Russia has the best privacy laws.
      Google also gets very good search results, and sure enough, it's surveillance tier.

    • @mgord9518
      @mgord9518 Год назад

      ​@@mathiasrrybaAnd everyone already knows that Bing and Google spy on you. Giving your private data to Russia instead of the US is not being private.
      Sure, you could argue if you live in the US, the US government is much more likely to cause you trouble than the Russian government, but it still doesn't make Yandex a private search engine.
      His review of it was 100% reasonable. If you like its good features, use it for them, but it should be avoided for anything where you feel privacy is important.

  • @andrewhooper7603
    @andrewhooper7603 Год назад +30

    The only issue I see is simply searching for "kirby" to test doesn't seem that useful. Without some previous search history to help navigate what "kirby" you might be interested in, they're just going to give you everything Kirby.
    And now Kirby has reached semantic satiation.

    • @MrEdrftgyuji
      @MrEdrftgyuji Год назад +8

      I don't want search engines monitoring my search history. If I want something more specific, I would use a more specific search term.

    • @andrewhooper7603
      @andrewhooper7603 Год назад +3

      @@MrEdrftgyuji that's fair. Just a trade off between convenience and privacy.

    • @mytech6779
      @mytech6779 Год назад +3

      Yeah, The video bagged on results that included very relevant results just because they weren't related to some childish pink blob. If I search for kirby I am not interested in 20 links to a pink blob, I want the link I saw to vaccum cleaners or to info about Jack Kirby.

    • @4NeonFun
      @4NeonFun Год назад +4

      This is valid and shows how unbiased the search engine is for not automatically making these assumptions. What may be considered a bug is actually a feature in uncovering our own biases. It may not be what we like but going for the completely unbiased route can be considered a flaw. This has unblocked some of my own personal qualms with anything other than Google, which is powerful since that's the one I've been using to get what I want and I've personally overlooked the privacy concerns with this since it would automatically tailor the results to what I was looking for which is biased in itself and I reckon that other users appreciate how intuitive this may feel and be ok with being treated as a product, but considering how website domains will pay to be the top result, this SEO function has really become skewed, especially in the last decade and primarily during the pandemic where clicks are especially important.

  • @moke7658
    @moke7658 Год назад +5

    searXNG is my personal favorite. it’s the same as searx with a better UI, more support, and more public instances available

    • @4NeonFun
      @4NeonFun Год назад

      Thanks! I've been thinking of trying another search engine other than duck duck go or Google. I also really appreciate how searX is open source and a grassroots co-op alternative to having to rely on a massive corporation for search queries.

    • @garyjonjon
      @garyjonjon 4 месяца назад

      searxng results are trash. cnn, msnbc, nbc etc etc... totally different than searx. you've been had!

  • @ChordRunner
    @ChordRunner 10 месяцев назад

    it needs to be said that it's not the ranking focusing on privacy, but on search relusts quality.

  • @TheSast
    @TheSast Год назад +62

    This man searches Kirby.
    This man is based.
    This man has one more subscriber.

    • @EricMurphyxyz
      @EricMurphyxyz  Год назад +17

      Agreed, I was literally obsessed with Kirby when I was a kid

  • @JensenSarpy
    @JensenSarpy Год назад +3

    Excellent video and good work on the tier list and I agree with the rankings!

  • @WOMFT
    @WOMFT Месяц назад

    man do i hate duck for the filtering of results but it somehow gives me the most accurate info for what im searching for..

  • @Dara-wk5ty
    @Dara-wk5ty Год назад +38

    I use Startpage but only for web searches which I do 95% of the time
    It's quite eh when you wanna click on images, videos, news
    News is the worst because it won't give you anything most of the time
    So you're kinda forced to use another search engine just for the other tabs

    • @EricMurphyxyz
      @EricMurphyxyz  Год назад +6

      Yeah, they could definitely be better. For me, using different search engines for something like image searches isn't that big of an inconvenience though.

  • @BeefyBoy909
    @BeefyBoy909 11 месяцев назад +2

    what linux distro are you using in this video? it looks super cool

  • @andreizhukow9905
    @andreizhukow9905 Год назад +14

    Yandex whole ecosystem is superior to other giants, simple as that. Search is extremely accurate, image search is extremely usable(compared to google and alike), reverse image search - i guess, well, it is very good too, i just don't use it often.
    I am biased, cuz im russian, but i really can't daily drive anything else, Yandex is just better at everything(except privacy).

  • @mhb3262
    @mhb3262 Год назад

    Ranking search engines based on privacy while soon everyone uses Bard, Bing Chat, etc.

  • @Monkeymario.
    @Monkeymario. 5 месяцев назад +3

    16:02 2-in-1 Cordless Vacuum Cleaner in "kirby" search results XD

  • @GrandmasterFriday
    @GrandmasterFriday Год назад +1

    Ever since I learned about 10 years ago that Bing shared my search results with Facebook of all places, I knew I had to uninstall it 6 ways to Saturday.

  • @alexnikolov
    @alexnikolov Год назад +12

    Love the tier lists. Any chance you'd do one for linux distros? =D

    • @EricMurphyxyz
      @EricMurphyxyz  Год назад +7

      Good idea, maybe in the future!

    • @jeffholmstrom8713
      @jeffholmstrom8713 Год назад +4

      Linux users are like vegans, lol

    • @4NeonFun
      @4NeonFun Год назад

      ​@@EricMurphyxyz
      Since you've mentioned how AI could change the way we search things in a way that this information would be out of date, I'm curious of what you would have to say about the search engines/ browsers that are considered defunct and how these same tech advancements have made these fallen to the wayside.
      For example, Avant is a little known browser and engine that was ahead of its time with features that rivalled many others you have listed on your channel. I've used it over a decade ago for example for gaming as the community has noted that you can use it to glitch out game servers to gain more items using its single process and split screen. Avant was an OG when it came to antispyware/malware blocker with adblock as a base feature and it was much faster and less data intensive than any other option. There's a dedicated niche userbase and something like that has been really responsive with changes. Also, there's absolutely no risk of data leaks as it doesn't store data and it goes away when you close it. Some things like that might come off as terrible to the average user but when it comes to data security, you know that there won't be any accidents if someone else on a shared computer was to reopen the application. They've gone a long way and while it was only available on windows, considering that it's been around for decades and quit updating around the pandemic, Avant kinda has some nostalgia around it for me as a quirky option that isn't talked about a whole lot.

  • @Lohlund
    @Lohlund 6 месяцев назад +2

    Can you do an updated tier list for 2024? I'm curious if something changed. Brave search improved a lot in the last year from what i've heard.

  • @mytech6779
    @mytech6779 Год назад +17

    I find DDG results better than google in most cases, aside from google-scholar searches but that those aren't really a general web search. Of course DDG isn't really open source which means trust is inherently limited, but good enough for practical use and doesn't feed the 800pound gorilla.

  • @mikejfranklin7000
    @mikejfranklin7000 6 месяцев назад

    You've done the research (extensively!) so we don't have to. Thank you so much.

  • @КонстантинАктыбаев

    I feel sorry for yandex, because it used to be a very good company with a lot of bright minds, before the government got its vile paws on it. Their services are of very good quality, even compared to big american corporations. Prices for paid services are also very very moderate compared to american. Probably because russians are not that wealthy. And their reverse image search has absolutely no competition. I didn't use their regular search much, but any time i need to search an image i go to yandex

    • @alexhauser5043
      @alexhauser5043 10 месяцев назад

      Every large, national corporation is in bed with its government.
      Why would you - as a westerner - care whether the KGB monitors Yandex searches? No Russian court can prosecute you, and Russian intelligence won't rat you out to your own government.

    • @egor_dmitrievich.8351
      @egor_dmitrievich.8351 2 месяца назад

      Подписываюсь под каждым словом

  • @Guarrow
    @Guarrow Год назад +5

    Brave Browser really does not deserve more than « decent » I think. It's not as bad as Qwant, search-wise. But damn, it's just not as good as Startpage. It's really not. I work in IT and sometimes searching for stuff has been painful. It's very very fine for most use I think, but when you need more it just doesn't deliver. Startpage have been serving me for years. Tried Brave for months but came back on Startpage.

    • @friendlyfire7861
      @friendlyfire7861 Год назад

      Agree, and it's more biased than Google for anything slightly controversial. I got frustrated enough I said bye after using it a long time. Just look up who is jn charge and you'll lose a lot of confidence in the results although the privacy is great, which is why the browser is a decent choice. But not the search.

  • @Somerled_Pox
    @Somerled_Pox Год назад +5

    SearX is incredibly based indeed

  • @insiditious6203
    @insiditious6203 2 дня назад

    I originally was apprehensive to using yandex for the security concerns, but man they are actually straight up not bias and I love it. It’s not my default, but I do find myself using it quite a bit. I figured Russia can’t really do ish to me any ways

  • @seanalexander3436
    @seanalexander3436 8 месяцев назад +5

    I prefer the silly little duck tbh

  • @gabrielgoldwoulfe2277
    @gabrielgoldwoulfe2277 6 месяцев назад +2

    Which search engine did you use to search for the best search engine?

  • @Sunlight91
    @Sunlight91 Год назад +5

    I think I try mojeek. Often my search results are littered with corporate content. Nearly every word in the English language is part of a movie or song title.

    • @theshadowking3198
      @theshadowking3198 4 месяца назад

      Google has that too it’s so annoying you’ll search up a word and some random c list artist made a song using that name

  • @BrianGlaze
    @BrianGlaze Год назад +1

    The thing that makes it hard to stop using the Google search engine is the search operators.

  • @minhajurrahman-ih1bk
    @minhajurrahman-ih1bk Год назад +7

    A like for your hard work and 33 minutes long video

    • @EricMurphyxyz
      @EricMurphyxyz  Год назад +2

      Thanks, these long videos take a lot of work!

    • @madthumbs1564
      @madthumbs1564 Год назад +1

      Yeah, these tier lists can be very subjective and he prioritizes things that I wouldn't like privacy. I really appreciate that he not only is aware of the politics of these SEs, but also puts some stress into alerting us to them. I would have liked to see Yandex get up there as I'm far more concerned about the civil unrest that some are behind than what a foreign entity will do with aggregate data on me. Also SearX still sucks *tried it again after this video.

  • @jfp0763
    @jfp0763 Год назад +1

    First search you did was Kirby. Enough to know you a trustworthy source

  • @giorgosygros1757
    @giorgosygros1757 Год назад +3

    ecosia has fixed most of the privacy issues you mentioned you gotta give it another chance or review it, i pretty much agree with everything else tho

  • @TuTAH_1
    @TuTAH_1 5 месяцев назад

    What I don't like from most search engines is that they have fixed pixels-defined width of the results, what looks like a very narrow column with a lot of empty space on high resolution screens.

  • @Exile51
    @Exile51 Год назад +4

    Where's Presearch? That's a privacy-based search engine too.

  • @dinglemcdangledongle
    @dinglemcdangledongle Год назад +2

    why is "what if kirby swallowed a hot man" in all the searches

  • @JJ-un8do
    @JJ-un8do Год назад +4

    All I want to know is why my jar of jif peanut butter is extra watery than normal. Everything that comes up is people with the same answers, either saying it doesn’t have hydrogenated oil (it does) or its natural (it isnt) its impossible to find any other search results so I guess Ill have to find out if this peanut butter is bad by fucking dying 😃

  • @mockemperor953
    @mockemperor953 Год назад +1

    I can't believe you forgot to include the grandma search engine ask jeeves

  • @StrikerEureka85
    @StrikerEureka85 Год назад +29

    i used to be one of those yandex simps until brave came along. as you said, they definitely keep track of your info but I didn't mind since they're halfway across the world. they do have a good search engine, online docs, storage, and email service and I've always liked their clean interface. they also have a decent chromium-based browser too, which i used for a few years.

    • @Yes-uf2je
      @Yes-uf2je Год назад

      Yandex? Non Russians use that 💩?

  • @Cart1416
    @Cart1416 Год назад +1

    how did you make your browser look like that?

  • @claudiusvier
    @claudiusvier Год назад +6

    I’d love to hear your opinion on Kagi.

    • @EricMurphyxyz
      @EricMurphyxyz  Год назад +1

      I'm too poor to pay for a search engine. But in all seriousness, it looks interesting and I want to try it out some time

    • @Dara-wk5ty
      @Dara-wk5ty Год назад +1

      I rather get private ads then pay 25 dollars per month for a search engine
      The 10 dollar pack only includes 700 searches in a month which isn't enough for me

  • @naturebc
    @naturebc 2 месяца назад +2

    Google is not a search engine, it's an advertising engine.

  • @Tixnou
    @Tixnou Год назад +4

    "... so you can use Qwant if you want"

    • @EricMurphyxyz
      @EricMurphyxyz  Год назад +1

      The name is also pretty fun to say, so there's that

    • @Tixnou
      @Tixnou Год назад +1

      @@EricMurphyxyz ikr

  • @polymorphesquirrel
    @polymorphesquirrel Год назад +2

    I'd bump stargpage to based, because google is peerless if you search not by literal term, but by description. Google's AI is doing a very good job at *understanding* what you are asking, and results include also sources which are based on synonyms and, in general, other wording. I found that Brave doesn't even compare.

    • @Mr.Mister96
      @Mr.Mister96 Год назад +2

      StartPage doesn't receive the original search results from Google , they receive watered down results especially on niche and/or controversial topics

  • @allesarfint
    @allesarfint Год назад +107

    My experience with Duck is literally the opposite, Google only shows me unrelated crap while Duck gets me actual useful stuff. Brave, I wont touch, not since the browser was found to add their own referral codes for crypto trading sites.

    • @emil.steiner
      @emil.steiner Год назад +18

      if i already know what i'm looking for duckduckgo is amazing. But if i'm exploring a topic the partially related results like in google are missing

    • @nicolozss
      @nicolozss Год назад +17

      Agree with you on Brave. Since they were found putting refferal codes for crypto, I ditch them. I know for same people could seems a frivolous reason, but trust is the first thing. And, coincidentally, they disclose it after beeing discovered. Classic corporate move.

    • @doommaker4000
      @doommaker4000 Год назад +54

      Wasn't DuckDuck also involved in some controversy? I'd rather trust the crypto company since I'm not interested in crypto at all

    • @Is_kitten
      @Is_kitten Год назад +7

      ​@@doommaker4000yeah I think they were found out for not protecting your security at all

    • @galaxybuzz6765
      @galaxybuzz6765 Год назад +3

      ​@@Is_kittenI think it was that they were allowing Microsoft track you

  • @yashdineshdeore9b332
    @yashdineshdeore9b332 Год назад +3

    what about Tor browser ? 😕

    • @PhobosTK
      @PhobosTK Год назад +1

      It's a browser.

    • @yashdineshdeore9b332
      @yashdineshdeore9b332 Год назад

      @@PhobosTK but he also took browsers into consideration. Example: Bing

    • @PhobosTK
      @PhobosTK Год назад

      ​@@yashdineshdeore9b332 that's a search engine. You're mistaking it with Edge

    • @paavoilves5416
      @paavoilves5416 Месяц назад

      @@yashdineshdeore9b332 Bing isn't a browser

  • @Pappalardium
    @Pappalardium Год назад

    Legend, I didn't know there was so many options for search engines.

  • @user-tw2kr6hg4r
    @user-tw2kr6hg4r Год назад +10

    Brave sadly started to redirect image searches to google about a week ago, which basically made it unusable for my needs.

    • @EricMurphyxyz
      @EricMurphyxyz  Год назад +3

      Same, that was a big disappointment for me too. I've been using DDG images and Searx's image search but they're not that great

    • @user-tw2kr6hg4r
      @user-tw2kr6hg4r Год назад +1

      @doomposter at least you didn't have to visit bing for them

  • @JustAnEverydayBoi
    @JustAnEverydayBoi 6 месяцев назад

    The problem is mainly because an avg blogger/news company/platform will always upload their site on a well known search engine (bing/google) so they will be also well known, an avg person doesn't care about privacy, they are always like idgaf just hit that accept button, but basically there is no privacy if you are online, at least trackings and others can be lowered but it is what it is, like did you know that if you are in usa or using any usa related thing you are constantly monitored from FBI or CIA.

  • @dedfish2945
    @dedfish2945 Год назад +12

    If you dont care enough about privacy or bias to sacrifice usability then thats up to you, but i'd rather not support google or bing if i have a choice. I used gigablast before it shut down a few months ago and it had the same issues as mojeek (which im using now). GB was the only search engine i know of to be completely open source.

    • @friendlyfire7861
      @friendlyfire7861 Год назад +2

      Mojeek has good uses and I hope it keeps improving.

  • @edward_the_bruce
    @edward_the_bruce Год назад +2

    What distro are you using and what's the 1-8 number thing in your panel?
    Thanks for the great content

  • @DosonTheGreat
    @DosonTheGreat Год назад +21

    Yandex is great for reverse image searching. I use it for nothing else. If saucenao can't find it, yandex usually can, or it can find something with which saucenao can work.

  • @wolfenstein6676
    @wolfenstein6676 Год назад +1

    Noob question, Eric, but how did you get that search bar in the middle of 'Brave'? 7:10 . I have to use the address bar, which is quite annoying when you've been used to 'Firefox'.

  • @nightmarerex2035
    @nightmarerex2035 Год назад +3

    i heard there was other decent alternatives better than duckduckgo that is apprently starting to go rogue.

  • @Joepipsquiggle
    @Joepipsquiggle Год назад +2

    FIREFOX IS NOT A SEARCH ENGINE
    FIREFOX IS A BROWSER

  • @AyushGupta-wn6zd
    @AyushGupta-wn6zd Год назад +9

    also about duckduckgo, didn't they filter results about russia/ukraine thing? that's a huge red flag

    • @friendlyfire7861
      @friendlyfire7861 Год назад

      Yes, and the lies about Ukraine will go down in history as the worst of the worst in terms of propagandizing the public with the cooperation of media and search giants. It's a real crime.

    • @theshadowking3198
      @theshadowking3198 4 месяца назад

      Yeah idk why they did that like stfu and stay in your place

  • @realdebugdan
    @realdebugdan 6 месяцев назад +2

    Yahoo should have been included. Just because it uses a bing frontend doesn’t mean anything because you included other engines that use bing as a front end