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I never knew there were teams of chain installers on the side of I-80. Good to know. I am too old for the snow and slush. These guys deserve big tips, y'all!! Heroes.
I feel like I'm the only person that doesn't hate driving in the snow. It might be bumper to bumper, but it's kind of peaceful driving 5 mph. Gives me an excuse to sit in a warm car and listen to music.
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I know exactly. I thought I knew how to drive in this type of weather coming from Washington D.C. Oh boy I was wrong when I moved to Chicago. I was a freaking rookie there were going around me and flying. Ever since I came back to the D.C. area these people don't know how to drive in the slush, snow, ice. My wife that lived in Milwaukee are telling these people in the D.C. area to get the F out of my way. Learn how to drive or stay home, LOL. We never used chain as long you got the right tires. I can drive in this weather with a RWD and FWD vehicle with no problem. Having a 4wd or AWD vehicle it's like icing on the cake
56 426 225 so let's say they get 3 feet of snow, the roads still get plowed on mountain roads and they get plowed rather well. Unlike northern and midwestern states mountain road crews are strictly there to maintain those roads not highways, side roads and alleys like here. I've driven on plenty of mountain roads while snowing and it's never been more than 6 inches on the roads.
Western snow has a high water content! Plows can't get it all.
7 лет назад+1
Tony...dude, if you're going to insult someone it helps if you point out who you're trying to insult with your sophomoric remarks. Otherwise, nobody gives a shit...not that anybody cares what you have to say but, y'know, just trying to give you some pointers in case you ever come up with something clever.
This is area which is border California/Nevada entering higher levels and mountains big temp drop and freeze possible chains required or winter tires but looks like not many were ready for this in October
Honestly though matt, people from the bay area are terrible ignorant drivers and think their 2wd mercedes will make it over a 7000 foot pass in snow season. Without the chain monkeys (dress in all orange) the pass would be littered with vacant vehicles
This is on Interstate 80 between Calif and Reno, Nevada. The chain up area is at a lower altitude for safety. The highway reaches elevations of over 7,000 feet and at the higher elevations everything is frozen solid and there is frequently over 12" of snow. CalTrans has learned the hard way what is needed to safely negotiate the Donner Summit, particularly for tractor trailers...
Oh, and by the way this road is a grade all the way up to the summit - for you Foreigners - that means it is uphill for about 15 miles and then all downhill for about 15 miles, and there is pretty much a solid line of tractor trailers in the right lane. You have to bring your own chains, and the chain monkeys(as they're called) are paid by the driver to put the chains on - they're independent contractors and they charge to put the chains on. No, we don't salt roads in the West, it rots the underside of cars. And it's so nice after a day of work in San Francisco to go skiing up at Lake Tahoe, and have someone else kneel in the slush and put your chains on for you.
When I became my license last year I drove on snow at night back home. I was slow but when I wanted to turn into my driveway I lost control and landed on the wrong side on the road. Glad nobody was comming from there but I learned that 15 kilometers are too fast for a left turn.
People who are making negative comments about California snow don’t live here. This is the Sierra Nevada, that little snow you see is not what chains are for. It’s the 4-10 feet of snow ahead of you for why you are asked to chain up on 2wd vehicles.
Wait... So people have snow chains, yet they dont know how to put them on themselves??? This should be a requirement, just like being able to change one's own tire. Thats what's what wrong with the world today.
JSMITH8505 it's California, a lot if those people never experienced snow before, and I think they give chains out.
8 лет назад+13
No, they don't 'give chains out'. I was born on the West Coast and I've never met anyone who hasn't driven to the Sierra Nevada, or the Cascades, or the Coastal range or the San Bernadino mountains to play in the snow. (where do you guys come up with this stuff?)
56 426 225 Ah, I was making that biased statement off the fact that my friend lives in Calabasas and always exclaims how much they want to see snow. I should've said "a lot of people don't experience snow as much as others do." Also that's your experience not everyone else's, but I'm also not from California so that makes sense.
56 426 225 Yeah I live in Missouri, outskirts of St.louis. Our snow is general sloppy and huge wet flakes, often causes power outages due to how heavy it is. I hate the wintry mix we get too, which is like sleet, freezing rain etc. The road salts tearing up your car. 😂😂
I get it that the truckers are out there doing their job so they have no choice in the matter, but there are probably others that are better off to stay home or STAY PUT until this stuff clears up.
With truckers know essential goods are to be delivered no matter the weather still has others know they won't risk life and limb for a pay check when in inclement weather they take a snow day.
Do Americans actually use all-season tires in these conditions? Damn, someone should tell them about the greatly improved safety benefits of proper winter tires.
dark Schneider I would have understood your objection if this was a once in a century occurrence, like in an anomaly, but as I understand this is quite an expected risk of driving on the I-80 during winter season. Just the obviously planned apparatus in operation tells a story of very high risk for snow and ice conditions. So, ya, someone should tell the Americans of the greatly improved safety benefits of proper winter tires. And this is not really about bashing Americans, I would be very surprised if the Alaskans do not agree that it is horrendously ignorant and stupid to set out on a journey, with a high risk of snow and ice conditions, in all-season tires, which is basically summer tires. I live in a region similar to the Alaskan climate. Of course, here everyone and their mother use winter tires during winter season, but this is where it starts to get interesting for you. In the early fall people still drive around with summer tires, or as you call it, all-season tires, but if they are setting out on a journey across the mountains, where winter tends to come early and there is a very high risk for snow and ice conditions, they will either be packing winter tires along for the ride or change to winter tires from the start. So as you can see, I do not see how you have a legitimate excuse for driving on the I-80, with what is basically summer tires, during the snow and ice season. To me, the very idea is just horrendously ignorant and stupid from the get go.
Yeah its suprising how little some people prepare for this shit, scares the hell out of me driving on it. I would definitely have winter tires and probably a set of chains just in case to go on the drive axles tires. But thank god I live in the south...
Well, that's what happens when we have a mass migration from: Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky, Indiana, Michigan, Minnasoda, ILLnoise, Wisconsun ... On the bright side, eventually many of those folks ultimately leave California, resulting in a substantial reduction in road rage, freeway shootings, accidents and, OH ... folks from eastern states that never learned how to install snow chains/cables :-) LMAO-LOL-LH-JL-SL-LSMFT (added just for the hell of it since we're doing acronyms)
Last time I chained over 80 in Cali I caught a chain link in my steer tire and it blew just before the Lincoln ext. Luckily I know what to do on a steer tire blow out and was able to keep my 45k of beer in the trailer.
People in France don’t know how to drive. In 2018 for 3-4 days there was some snow on the roads and it was a tragedy. People left their cars and slept in the nearby shops. If you have winter tires, traction control and some experience you need neighter chains nor 4 wheel drive. Good luck watching youtube. Improve your skills in winter in a safe area.
@@andrzejkolodziej6862 LoL what are you talking about? We have like 2 or 3 days max per year with bad conditions on the road so people are not gonna afford a brand new set of tires useless and dangerous 99% of the time when it's wet or dry! That's nothing about "knowing how to drive". How can you say we can't drive as we all learn driving a manual car, with extremely long and difficult driver licence exams. It's not like "creep forward, creep backward" like in the USA and then you're allowed to drive... You know even a monkey can press on a gas pedal...
No they dont and for the damn price they charge to do it u should get all that and a fee motel room. They charged my mom 75 dollars to put on chains and she was 76 yrs old and not person offered to help her but want to charge up the ass.
I never knew that there was such a thing as "Chain Installer", it's a good thing to know! Thank you to the people who does this, it can't be an easy task!!
@@NigwardTheSquid Yes, You can get nannied nearly as much and costly as You like it. When Your personal incapability or unwillingness to do certain adequate things out in the roads where it snows Yourself is beginning to bother other people, though, (which it usually does me, as soon as just another noob comes outta grip and into sliding towards me because they're not even able to *_decide_* when to ask their chain-monkey to put their chains on, let alone *_get_* to said chainmonkey without pestering me minding my own business of driving on snow ....) it quickly gets prohibitive for the entire undertaking: being out there on the snowy road endangering other people with Your own incapabilities is no option whatsoever. So either get a basic knowledge how to behave on snow and use this knowledge, or bloody stay in some sunny state in the first place! You're welcome.
I remember when Caltrans prided itself on keeping I-80 open, plows and graders out in force, road was always plowed and sanded. But then again when you have a million people on a highway built in the 50's, just saying
The chains arent for the area that they are in, they're for the higher elevation up ahead. That's why chain up requirements are only on one side of the highway. The other side is chains off because they are headed downhill (less snow) It is normally snowing pretty heavy on top to require chains and the plows cant always keep up with the snowfall and the visibility is very bad between the snowfall and the high winds over the pass.
You have to get the cars off the road first, otherwise the plow sits in traffic and you have accomplished nothing. Donner pass is roughly a 70 mile stretch of highway from Auburn CA to Reno NV, and it packs with traffic going to resorts at the mention of snow. This is just so common all over the US and idiots continue to ask why don’t they plow the roads.... because the plow is sitting behind your stuck ass going nowhere!
Maybe if you knew the area you wouldn't have made your stupid fucking comment. We have a fucking genius here ladies and gents, holy fucking shit, I can't believe you're from Earth. You're THAT smart. You must be the good idea fairy with all that knowledge.
@@mattmoschkau2831 I live in Toronto which is the traffic capital of Canada and our roads always get plowed and salted. It's illegal to run chains or studded tires here due to the damage they cause to the road.
I have a Ford F - 350 4 door diesel 4x4. It pulls my trailers and goes most everywhere I've ever asked it to go with ease. It's great for situations just like this not only to help keep me from getting stuck but to help others get unstuck. My truck and I have pulled many cars and trucks out of the mud and snow. Even the Prius drivers who think my truck is unnecessary and a gross polluter. Strange old world isn't it?
30 years as an over the road trucker (owner/operator) in my Pete I carries my skis,poles,boots ,goggles & gloves.I also carried ski insulated ski bibbs (skiing one great sport) when every truck pulled over to put on chains,I put on my ski bibs & gloves & announced over the CB that I would charge $20 to put someone's chains on.Where a lot of truckers made a mistake is after chains are on t,to drive in a large S and then stop & retighten the chains
you mean slushy salt mess? haha that shit will rot your cars out i do not know why they don't use grit, sand or even gravel as they are always breaking up ice every time a wheel rolls over the gravel, sand, grit and it will save cars and they will last longer without rotting away salt may dissolve ice and snow but at what cost
Been driving over Donner as a truck driver for 12+ years now and was I ever so happy when they tore down the old bug (agricultural) station down which gave us big rigs lots of room (and lighting) to chain up at. My '72 Ford F-100 is 2 WD, but got my hands on busted chains, cut/repaired 6 of 'em down to size for it. My other 3 vehicles have 4 WD and I use the same tire size on all 4 vehicles. Made 6 sets so WHEN, not if, a chain breaks, I can slap another on it then and there.
or, you know, the road further ahead is covered with snow and its much safer to stop for chains while still on a flat surface with plenty of room, instead of in the middle of snowfall on the side of the road, where you could block everyone behind you.
Spinning in that slush certainly knackers the chains and tyres. In 50 years I have never put chains on. And that is over the Alps in winter with an artic (semi) and an exhaust brake operating. An old driver once said to me, 'if you need chains, it's time to sleep'. ;-))
chains for road vehicles here are really only used on mountain passes where you need extra traction because of steep grades and elevation. they are actually required in some instances. and if you dont have them you are literally not allowed to pass. holland not exactly known for their mountain passes... ;)
wel it cost a big money to repair the roads so there for winter tires are SAFER and if evrybody dirves normal and SAFE even in winter conditions and not to fast couse that is the problem you need to adapt to the conditions and not drive like an IDIOT sorry that my uppinion !!!!
so people who live in california have to have a $400 set of snow tires laying around for when they go into the mountians twice a year? or how about if you live in texas and are visiting the mountians? chains are fine thanks.
I've skiied and worked and drove over Donner Summit for 40 years. I have a CDL, if you run chain control check point or speed it's a work zone and fines double $600, vehicle impound plus towing $950 reckless endangerment ticket and you can be jailed. Progression of semi truck metering state law requires that trucks must have chains and know how to install them most don't and they lie. Storms develop without warning over 100 mile area with 5-7% grades, snowplow run in packs of four they sand and salt and plow in five mile laps. The idea is to get the refugees out, keep the roads open and without chain control they couldn't do that!
depends on what going on, this situation they where SELLING chains including install service. Also for $20 to have someone put my chains on is a deal on raining snowy day like this, fuck yeah I am paying it, especially if u coming from work where you probably are not dressed to be getting on the wet slushy ground, it money well spent.
Most of the people paying to get chains install are tourist from Cali and most probably haven't install chains on their life. Locals either have 4x4 or can install chains on 5 minutes or less.
And the chain installers act like its a felony not to have them put your chains on... when I could do my own on my 4WD pickup in under 5 minutes, chains on all 4 wheels. Stop, lay out the chains, drive on all 4, hook em up and clip on the tensioners. Quick and easy.
I live in New England and i've never put a set of chains on my car, I always thought chains were for Alaska and Canada where they don't see pavement for months. THEY ARE DRIVING IN SLUSH.
Are they guys that are installing the chains a private company or state workers? Do you pay them for the service? Sorry if it is foolish question but I live in the south, I don't know what snow and ice on roads mean!
JesusFriedChrist I live in the Flint Michigan area and we have a snow storm rn I have almost new snow tires on my impala and i was scared to go over 40. i was going 50 on the highway last winter and spun out in a 360 trying to change lanes, thank god i corrected it before i hit the divider and no cars were on the highway.
We Canadians go through stuff like that and to be safe we slow down to 80KM/H. Check out the clip "funny car pile up", an event that happened last week in Montreal, we Canadians when we do it, we do it right!!!!!!
That's on the uphill to go up another 5000 ft... Getting the chains on in the transition from cleared to you cant clear that crap. You need a certain amount of snow/ice/slush to prevent the chains getting chewed up (and prevent chains chewing up the road)... they move the chains station up and down the mountain as needed. The chain installer guys get really mad when you want to put your own on instead of paying them...
well, California makes the big rigs chain up with a 1/4 of snow on the road, if a car had slide off, before the chain up went int effect. with heavy loads trucks don't have a problem, if you was in Wyoming, you wouldn't chain up, but California is weird
Dennis Mckown Here in Colorado, they'll make big rigs chain up in any ice condition and little or a shit load of snow. A dusting or 2 inches if snow makes traveling a hazard. Why, ice build up and the little snow will build up in the tires causing slippage.
The highest elevation in WI is about 2000 ft. So really no steep hills to speak of. Snow tires are best suited for that type of winter driving unless you're driving in the wilderness areas.
8 лет назад+1
Yeah, I just got finished watching one of your massive wreaks in Wyoming - 80 , 90 vehicles - mostly big heavy rigs (apparently with no chains) as they slammed into the pile, one after the other. Now California may be weird, but even though we have far heavier snowfalls over the Sierra Nevada passes than Wyoming will ever see, we never seem to have the pileups Wyoming gets. And I'm guessin' chains might have something to do with it.
there are some mountains in Washington state, that i've driven over the top of, and they are higher than 1951 feet. :) tried to find it on the map, but its been a while US-97 from Columbia River to Yakima, "is not" a fun ride, if you're heavy.
San Bernardino Mountain, Big Bear, etc. when chains are required, the installers are out there. About $20 - $100.00+. Best to wait it out for a day or two for the roads to be plowed and melted.
All these People hating on Californian using cable/chains. Lemme tell you this we don't really get snow in california just higher elevation and most higher elevations are parks, so if you just gunna visit once or twice a year there's really no point on buying snowntires, and yes that's just a slush but that's not What's waiting on higher elevation. So if you don't drive in california road you might wanna stop bashing on us using chains.
Nope... you have to bring your own chains.. and pay the guys to put them on 9or listen to them complain about cheapskates when you put them on yourself and save $50)
I remember that day it was a mess I left Tahoe City head over the mountain to head to Sacramento and lucky for me I own 2 4x4 all my friends and family as well you never know when you have Caltran asking is that in 4wd I say yes it is sir and they'll respond back and say drive slow and have a safe trip. ✌🐼🤳
+56 426 225 I have no idea what your ancient feet and miles mean. Also no idea where Nevada is. But I do live above the arctic circle so I know a bit about winters. And if you dont know what the arctic circle is, lets just say that most of Alaska is south of it.
Been there many times even when they make us truckers to chain but not the four wheelers,then they crash and four or five hours later you can go again,always enjoyed watching the people chain the back wheels on a front wheel drive
My respect to all the chain installers!
Zhenyu Liu oh my God yes💪🏿💕
You prolly dont give a shit but if you guys are bored like me atm you can stream all of the new series on Instaflixxer. Have been watching with my girlfriend for the last few months xD
@Juelz Baylor definitely, I've been using Instaflixxer for months myself =)
They are doing it for money
@@kcwkembm as they should be! It’s cold out there.
I never knew there were teams of chain installers on the side of I-80. Good to know. I am too old for the snow and slush. These guys deserve big tips, y'all!! Heroes.
I feel like I'm the only person that doesn't hate driving in the snow. It might be bumper to bumper, but it's kind of peaceful driving 5 mph. Gives me an excuse to sit in a warm car and listen to music.
jalene150 i love driving in the snow. its kinda peaceful going down the back roads in a blizzard
And you get to look and laugh at all of the 4X4 heros in the ditches and medians.
I can drive 5 mph and listen to music every day on the freeway It doesn't need to be snowing.
i love drifting... i mean driving... in snow
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Respect to all the chain installers ! You doing a Brave and great Job !
"Brave"? How?
@@miniena7774 why would cars need chains? Maybe because they slide everywhere and those people are in between sliding cars and trucks...
@@gyula6516 who said that?..
lol, no way am I putting my fingers near those chains with a California driver at the wheel.
GeneralChangOfDanang 😂
Underrated comment lol
So apparently you don’t think it snow’s in California...wile watching a video about snow chains in California......dooooooooough!
@@armoredsaint6639 Um...wtf are you talking about?
Agent 88 he didn’t say that dumbass. Get your ass straight
+10 for the chain installer..
Just Remember if they install your chains. You have to find them again to take off your chains.
"Hi how are you" "Good how are you" "4 wheel drive correct?" "yes" "Go slow please" LOL the ending
Here in Wisconsin during winter we'd be in heaven If our roads looked like that. Most places here don't even plow if it's under 6 inches.
I know exactly. I thought I knew how to drive in this type of weather coming from Washington D.C. Oh boy I was wrong when I moved to Chicago. I was a freaking rookie there were going around me and flying. Ever since I came back to the D.C. area these people don't know how to drive in the slush, snow, ice. My wife that lived in Milwaukee are telling these people in the D.C. area to get the F out of my way. Learn how to drive or stay home, LOL. We never used chain as long you got the right tires. I can drive in this weather with a RWD and FWD vehicle with no problem. Having a 4wd or AWD vehicle it's like icing on the cake
56 426 225 so let's say they get 3 feet of snow, the roads still get plowed on mountain roads and they get plowed rather well. Unlike northern and midwestern states mountain road crews are strictly there to maintain those roads not highways, side roads and alleys like here. I've driven on plenty of mountain roads while snowing and it's never been more than 6 inches on the roads.
How do your vehicles do on the curves and steep grades of you HIGH MOUNTAINS?
Western snow has a high water content! Plows can't get it all.
Tony...dude, if you're going to insult someone it helps if you point out who you're trying to insult with your sophomoric remarks. Otherwise, nobody gives a shit...not that anybody cares what you have to say but, y'know, just trying to give you some pointers in case you ever come up with something clever.
First time I see this , Here in East coast we just put our Winter tires and go !
This is area which is border California/Nevada entering higher levels and mountains big temp drop and freeze possible chains required or winter tires but looks like not many were ready for this in October
ill show you we can and do it everyday stay tune to my yt channel
Rejean Robichaud That's right man. They never seen snow before.
This area has a steep downgrade for about 5 miles, icy conditions constantly
I have been working on the same thing as u have
They put chains on for you? Where is this magical place?
They make bank
Honestly though matt, people from the bay area are terrible ignorant drivers and think their 2wd mercedes will make it over a 7000 foot pass in snow season. Without the chain monkeys (dress in all orange) the pass would be littered with vacant vehicles
california were people dont know how to drive in the snow
Matt J o
Must be up north cuz here in SoCal is dry af rarely any snow down here
Those chain installers deserve recognition.
This is on Interstate 80 between Calif and Reno, Nevada. The chain up area is at a lower altitude for safety. The highway reaches elevations of over 7,000 feet and at the higher elevations everything is frozen solid and there is frequently over 12" of snow. CalTrans has learned the hard way what is needed to safely negotiate the Donner Summit, particularly for tractor trailers...
Oh, and by the way this road is a grade all the way up to the summit - for you Foreigners - that means it is uphill for about 15 miles and then all downhill for about 15 miles, and there is pretty much a solid line of tractor trailers in the right lane. You have to bring your own chains, and the chain monkeys(as they're called) are paid by the driver to put the chains on - they're independent contractors and they charge to put the chains on. No, we don't salt roads in the West, it rots the underside of cars. And it's so nice after a day of work in San Francisco to go skiing up at Lake Tahoe, and have someone else kneel in the slush and put your chains on for you.
When I became my license last year I drove on snow at night back home. I was slow but when I wanted to turn into my driveway I lost control and landed on the wrong side on the road. Glad nobody was comming from there but I learned that 15 kilometers are too fast for a left turn.
When you realise "all-season" tires are worthless on snow and ice.
No, these people had summer tires. All seasons can and usually are great. AWD helps alot too
I've had all seasons on my Sonata and it's been through an Alaskan Winter just fine so far. Going through winter number 2 just fine.
Winter is a season!
People who are making negative comments about California snow don’t live here. This is the Sierra Nevada, that little snow you see is not what chains are for. It’s the 4-10 feet of snow ahead of you for why you are asked to chain up on 2wd vehicles.
I wonder if this video is for broadcast
Crooked cat I think it is
Not for crooked cats.
Wait... So people have snow chains, yet they dont know how to put them on themselves??? This should be a requirement, just like being able to change one's own tire. Thats what's what wrong with the world today.
JSMITH8505 it's California, a lot if those people never experienced snow before, and I think they give chains out.
No, they don't 'give chains out'. I was born on the West Coast and I've never met anyone who hasn't driven to the Sierra Nevada, or the Cascades, or the Coastal range or the San Bernadino mountains to play in the snow. (where do you guys come up with this stuff?)
56 426 225 that's why I said "I think" because I wasn't sure.
56 426 225 Ah, I was making that biased statement off the fact that my friend lives in Calabasas and always exclaims how much they want to see snow. I should've said "a lot of people don't experience snow as much as others do." Also that's your experience not everyone else's, but I'm also not from California so that makes sense.
56 426 225 Yeah I live in Missouri, outskirts of St.louis. Our snow is general sloppy and huge wet flakes, often causes power outages due to how heavy it is. I hate the wintry mix we get too, which is like sleet, freezing rain etc. The road salts tearing up your car. 😂😂
After watching these vids, ive just decided never to go out in the snow in my little plastic car ever again.
hey California, the rest of the country is laughing at you
wrench - who gives a fuck? Now go wash your grubby fuckin' hands ya fuckin' grease monkey.
bollocks
They just SAVE lots of LIFE'S thank God and those heroes , keep PARADISE safe.
wrenchslinger jealousy
I am not
I get it that the truckers are out there doing their job so they have no choice in the matter, but there are probably others that are better off to stay home or STAY PUT until this stuff clears up.
Driving in snow is fun
With truckers know essential goods are to be delivered no matter the weather still has others know they won't risk life and limb for a pay check when in inclement weather they take a snow day.
Do Americans actually use all-season tires in these conditions? Damn, someone should tell them about the greatly improved safety benefits of proper winter tires.
Dovenpeis now why u have to go and generalize most storms on the I 80 are when you least expect them
dark Schneider I would have understood your objection if this was a once in a century occurrence, like in an anomaly, but as I understand this is quite an expected risk of driving on the I-80 during winter season. Just the obviously planned apparatus in operation tells a story of very high risk for snow and ice conditions.
So, ya, someone should tell the Americans of the greatly improved safety benefits of proper winter tires. And this is not really about bashing Americans, I would be very surprised if the Alaskans do not agree that it is horrendously ignorant and stupid to set out on a journey, with a high risk of snow and ice conditions, in all-season tires, which is basically summer tires.
I live in a region similar to the Alaskan climate. Of course, here everyone and their mother use winter tires during winter season, but this is where it starts to get interesting for you. In the early fall people still drive around with summer tires, or as you call it, all-season tires, but if they are setting out on a journey across the mountains, where winter tends to come early and there is a very high risk for snow and ice conditions, they will either be packing winter tires along for the ride or change to winter tires from the start.
So as you can see, I do not see how you have a legitimate excuse for driving on the I-80, with what is basically summer tires, during the snow and ice season. To me, the very idea is just horrendously ignorant and stupid from the get go.
Yeah its suprising how little some people prepare for this shit, scares the hell out of me driving on it. I would definitely have winter tires and probably a set of chains just in case to go on the drive axles tires. But thank god I live in the south...
Dovenpeis
What region similar to Alaskan climate do you reside in?
Col. Angus I live north of the Arctic Circle.
major props to these tire chains installers......
It's interesting.... Those are normal conditions for march-april in Middle-South Siberia. We never use tire chains unless in mountains.
@@jld7779 We use studded tires. At least the most people.
@@volobuev2002 people here can forgo chains in R3 conditions too provided their tires are also winter ones.
Chain installers?!? Only in California lmao.
steve b come on. it doesn't snow enough in Alabama for chain installers.
Because no one in CA knows how to drive in the snow
California. The land of the snowflakes
We don't have it in Florida...;O)
Well, that's what happens when we have a mass migration from: Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky, Indiana, Michigan, Minnasoda, ILLnoise, Wisconsun ...
On the bright side, eventually many of those folks ultimately leave California, resulting in a substantial reduction in road rage, freeway shootings, accidents and, OH ... folks from eastern states that never learned how to install snow chains/cables :-)
LMAO-LOL-LH-JL-SL-LSMFT (added just for the hell of it since we're doing acronyms)
A huuuuge thupms up to These Chain installers 👍👍
Last time I chained over 80 in Cali I caught a chain link in my steer tire and it blew just before the Lincoln ext. Luckily I know what to do on a steer tire blow out and was able to keep my 45k of beer in the trailer.
SuperBigblue19 😂👍🏾
"Chain installer", how convenient it is !
In France, you have to do it by yourself !
Nope on every mountain there is a chain installation guy and they charge a leg to do it. Not only in California!
Who paid then? State? Union? or the drivers that use the service of chain installer?
The drivers pay.
People in France don’t know how to drive. In 2018 for 3-4 days there was some snow on the roads and it was a tragedy. People left their cars and slept in the nearby shops.
If you have winter tires, traction control and some experience you need neighter chains nor 4 wheel drive.
Good luck watching youtube. Improve your skills in winter in a safe area.
@@andrzejkolodziej6862 LoL what are you talking about? We have like 2 or 3 days max per year with bad conditions on the road so people are not gonna afford a brand new set of tires useless and dangerous 99% of the time when it's wet or dry! That's nothing about "knowing how to drive". How can you say we can't drive as we all learn driving a manual car, with extremely long and difficult driver licence exams. It's not like "creep forward, creep backward" like in the USA and then you're allowed to drive... You know even a monkey can press on a gas pedal...
Do they serve you coffee and hot chocolate to while the installer puts on chains for you.
Sure, and if you ask nicely, they'll even sing you a song.
Yes they do! With macdonalds
No they dont and for the damn price they charge to do it u should get all that and a fee motel room. They charged my mom 75 dollars to put on chains and she was 76 yrs old and not person offered to help her but want to charge up the ass.
@@michaelkoop6731 you are not entitled to things just because you are old
yes and then they tax 60% of you salary
I love it, they should come visit Montreal in January
Really? Try driving over a 9,000ft. pass in some of the heaviest snowfall in North America - and that includes Montreal.
My opinion is if you can't put your own chains on then stay home, jesssh lazy!!!
The casinos are a calling
Dan Brimer wow rude
I never knew that there was such a thing as "Chain Installer", it's a good thing to know! Thank you to the people who does this, it can't be an easy task!!
When You're unable to install Your own chains, You ought to stay the f..k off the road.
it is not free
@@airon55520011 Do you know how much they charge, just wondering.
@@manfredschmalbach9023 Or you can pay people to do it for you. Its none of your business how people chose to spend their time and money
@@NigwardTheSquid Yes, You can get nannied nearly as much and costly as You like it.
When Your personal incapability or unwillingness to do certain adequate things out in the roads where it snows Yourself is beginning to bother other people, though, (which it usually does me, as soon as just another noob comes outta grip and into sliding towards me because they're not even able to *_decide_* when to ask their chain-monkey to put their chains on, let alone *_get_* to said chainmonkey without pestering me minding my own business of driving on snow ....) it quickly gets prohibitive for the entire undertaking: being out there on the snowy road endangering other people with Your own incapabilities is no option whatsoever. So either get a basic knowledge how to behave on snow and use this knowledge, or bloody stay in some sunny state in the first place! You're welcome.
im a over the road truck driver,so chain up is part of my job...
I remember when Caltrans prided itself on keeping I-80 open, plows and graders out in force, road was always plowed and sanded. But then again when you have a million people on a highway built in the 50's, just saying
I love the dudes driving their Mustangs , Camaros, Mazdaspeed3's etc in this shit like it's nothin. haha
It's snowing and the roads are slick. Time to speed up.
Respect for those chain installers...
Maybe instead of putting chains on people’s car they should actually plow the roads...woah great idea👍🏼
The chains arent for the area that they are in, they're for the higher elevation up ahead. That's why chain up requirements are only on one side of the highway. The other side is chains off because they are headed downhill (less snow) It is normally snowing pretty heavy on top to require chains and the plows cant always keep up with the snowfall and the visibility is very bad between the snowfall and the high winds over the pass.
Makeshiftlake35 that’s different
You have to get the cars off the road first, otherwise the plow sits in traffic and you have accomplished nothing. Donner pass is roughly a 70 mile stretch of highway from Auburn CA to Reno NV, and it packs with traffic going to resorts at the mention of snow.
This is just so common all over the US and idiots continue to ask why don’t they plow the roads.... because the plow is sitting behind your stuck ass going nowhere!
Maybe if you knew the area you wouldn't have made your stupid fucking comment. We have a fucking genius here ladies and gents, holy fucking shit, I can't believe you're from Earth. You're THAT smart. You must be the good idea fairy with all that knowledge.
@@mattmoschkau2831 I live in Toronto which is the traffic capital of Canada and our roads always get plowed and salted. It's illegal to run chains or studded tires here due to the damage they cause to the road.
Wish I had a tire chain installer when stuck in the mud on the mountains 🙂👍
I have a Ford F - 350 4 door diesel 4x4. It pulls my trailers and goes most everywhere I've ever asked it to go with ease. It's great for situations just like this not only to help keep me from getting stuck but to help others get unstuck. My truck and I have pulled many cars and trucks out of the mud and snow. Even the Prius drivers who think my truck is unnecessary and a gross polluter. Strange old world isn't it?
God Bless those chain installers...seriously they're life savers
30 years as an over the road trucker (owner/operator) in my Pete I carries my skis,poles,boots ,goggles & gloves.I also carried ski insulated ski bibbs (skiing one great sport) when every truck pulled over to put on chains,I put on my ski bibs & gloves & announced over the CB that I would charge $20 to put someone's chains on.Where a lot of truckers made a mistake is after chains are on t,to drive in a large S and then stop & retighten the chains
I drove over-the-road for a few years coast to coast. .don't miss these times...
Why all the fuss over melting slush?
MikeMaxis the chain up point is a bit below the summit, there will be more than slush up higher.
you mean slushy salt mess? haha
that shit will rot your cars out
i do not know why they don't use grit, sand or even gravel as they are always breaking up ice every time a wheel rolls over the gravel, sand, grit and it will save cars and they will last longer without rotting away
salt may dissolve ice and snow but at what cost
It keeps auto mechanics very busy with cars that have a rotting underbody. Good for them, not so much for anyone else.
The last Storm dropped 6 feet of snow up there; snow plows can't get it all.
When it gets darker it freezes and becomes mass havoc
Been driving over Donner as a truck driver for 12+ years now and was I ever so happy when they tore down the old bug (agricultural) station down which gave us big rigs lots of room (and lighting) to chain up at. My '72 Ford F-100 is 2 WD, but got my hands on busted chains, cut/repaired 6 of 'em down to size for it. My other 3 vehicles have 4 WD and I use the same tire size on all 4 vehicles. Made 6 sets so WHEN, not if, a chain breaks, I can slap another on it then and there.
wow the tires there must suck to a whole new level if you need chains for soft slush....
you guys have retarded rules an you call me a dumbass.... learn to drive and you would'nt need to dipshit
Chains are mandatory not opcional
or, you know, the road further ahead is covered with snow and its much safer to stop for chains while still on a flat surface with plenty of room, instead of in the middle of snowfall on the side of the road, where you could block everyone behind you.
For semi's, some passes require chains on both drive wheels, one steer and one trailer. Single units need chains on both drives and a steer.
I fondly remember this year. I lived in Tahoe but worked 3 days a week in Sacramento. It was snowmaggden that year.
They're making them chain up for that? I'm glad i'm in Alaska. No such nonsense.
You need them at 7000 ft coming down. Scary if there a lot of big rigs and you trying to pass them by the cliff.
Chain Installers? WTF is that? Never heard of that. Put your winter tires on, people!
elevation change is the worst. People who have not driven in the mountains have no clue!
Spinning in that slush certainly knackers the chains and tyres. In 50 years I have never put chains on. And that is over the Alps in winter with an artic (semi) and an exhaust brake operating. An old driver once said to me, 'if you need chains, it's time to sleep'. ;-))
3:17 looks like me with the Christmas lights....
Hahaha so true!
Forbes Hutton lol he just threw it to the ground
mission impossible :)
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Live Storms Media: NOT FOR BROADCAST
I dont think people understand how steep and how much snow falls on donnar pass.
I have never seen chains on the trailer of a semi, but it makes sense.
why dont they buy snow tires better then chains
nothing is better than chains. its why they use them on forestry equipment too...
it rui ins the roads those chains here in holland its forbidden.....
chains for road vehicles here are really only used on mountain passes where you need extra traction because of steep grades and elevation. they are actually required in some instances. and if you dont have them you are literally not allowed to pass. holland not exactly known for their mountain passes... ;)
wel it cost a big money to repair the roads so there for winter tires are SAFER and if evrybody dirves normal and SAFE even in winter conditions and not to fast couse that is the problem you need to adapt to the conditions and not drive like an IDIOT sorry that my uppinion !!!!
so people who live in california have to have a $400 set of snow tires laying around for when they go into the mountians twice a year? or how about if you live in texas and are visiting the mountians? chains are fine thanks.
Nice video, crazy weather!
No need for chains. Just get good winter tires.
Unfortunately CA enforces you to have chains during winter storms on i80.
whatisthisnonsens100 so that the trailer does slide around. That much weight being displaced could throw the truck off the mountain side
Winter tires.... or a running start.
It's California lmao
did they ever try plowing the roads . that's what we do in canada
Nothing like watching traffic
I've skiied and worked and drove over Donner Summit for 40 years. I have a CDL, if you run chain control check point or speed it's a work zone and fines double $600, vehicle impound plus towing $950 reckless endangerment ticket and you can be jailed.
Progression of semi truck metering state law requires that trucks must have chains and know how to install them most don't and they lie. Storms develop without warning over 100 mile area with 5-7% grades, snowplow run in packs of four they sand and salt and plow in five mile laps. The idea is to get the refugees out, keep the roads open and without chain control they couldn't do that!
I'd gladly shake each and every one of those brave souls hand. You couldn't pay me enough to do that job.
Chain-installers? I've never seen anything like that! Seems like a dangerous job. Why don't people do that themselves?
Too lazy. I feel if you can't make it without chains and you don't have chains - stay home.
@@sassylady2001 Wow... ah well, they're illegal where I live (Netherlands) so I can't relate how hard it is to put them on ;)
It's a paid service, they're independent contractors.
@@Shteven Ah ok. Thanks for the reply! What's the cost for an average 4-wheel vehicle (if you happen to know?)
Wow!!!! Just Wow!!!
If you drive a mini with a/s tires and can't put your own chains on..STAY THE FUCK HOME
56 426 225 and I'd gladly take your 20$ to do 3 minutes of work to install some chains 😊
Sorry slick - it ain't gonna' happen in 3 minutes, I don't care who you are.
depends on what going on, this situation they where SELLING chains including install service. Also for $20 to have someone put my chains on is a deal on raining snowy day like this, fuck yeah I am paying it, especially if u coming from work where you probably are not dressed to be getting on the wet slushy ground, it money well spent.
Most of the people paying to get chains install are tourist from Cali and most probably haven't install chains on their life. Locals either have 4x4 or can install chains on 5 minutes or less.
well if you have a lucky size combination of tire and rim where the chain cant be installed.....
Wow..a video from 7 years ago! Desperate times!
Investing in a snowplow with salt dispencer would be worth it!
Hahaha that's Donner Pass. It can get really ugly really quick. You would need a plower every 10 cars on order to keep up.
My heart is broken for the people wat is stuck in the snowfall😢
"Not For Broadcast" - - - Don't watch !
the state should keep the roads clean....
The state is fucking massive, they cant cover everything at once you dumbass
Mandatory snow chains, really? Whut do you do if you don't have em? They send you home?
They'll sell you ones on the spot or you have to wait until road conditions get better which can happen until the next day
They will turn you around if you cant buy the one on the spot.
Respect to all
"chain installer"....pass...
No chains or studded tires - stay OFF the dangerous snowy and icy roads!
And the chain installers act like its a felony not to have them put your chains on... when I could do my own on my 4WD pickup in under 5 minutes, chains on all 4 wheels.
Stop, lay out the chains, drive on all 4, hook em up and clip on the tensioners. Quick and easy.
I live in New England and i've never put a set of chains on my car, I always thought chains were for Alaska and Canada where they don't see pavement for months. THEY ARE DRIVING IN SLUSH.
Well this video was taken in October so obviously the snow is slushy.
Are they guys that are installing the chains a private company or state workers? Do you pay them for the service?
Sorry if it is foolish question but I live in the south, I don't know what snow and ice on roads mean!
You pay them
Chains on a car is better than snow tires on a 4x4, but both are best for winter.
JesusFriedChrist I live in the Flint Michigan area and we have a snow storm rn I have almost new snow tires on my impala and i was scared to go over 40. i was going 50 on the highway last winter and spun out in a 360 trying to change lanes, thank god i corrected it before i hit the divider and no cars were on the highway.
We Canadians go through stuff like that and to be safe we slow down to 80KM/H. Check out the clip "funny car pile up", an event that happened last week in Montreal, we Canadians when we do it, we do it right!!!!!!
That's on the uphill to go up another 5000 ft... Getting the chains on in the transition from cleared to you cant clear that crap.
You need a certain amount of snow/ice/slush to prevent the chains getting chewed up (and prevent chains chewing up the road)... they move the chains station up and down the mountain as needed.
The chain installer guys get really mad when you want to put your own on instead of paying them...
That statement is about as retarded as it gets. My truck with bald tires would go much further then a car with chains....
Thats pretty vague.
I hope these guys are paid good money cause they deserve every dollar they make and more.
1:10 Camaro definitely has snow tires.
Nope. Just super wide tires
I lived in Alaska for 7 years and during the Winter you are allowed to have tires with spikes in them.
Wow maybe run a plow thru a couple times an hour while doing that to get the slush crap out of the way
God bless these chain installers 👍
God doesn't exist! And what is a bless?
well, California makes the big rigs chain up with a 1/4 of snow on the road, if a car had slide off, before the chain up went int effect. with heavy loads trucks don't have a problem, if you was in Wyoming, you wouldn't chain up, but California is weird
Dennis Mckown Here in Colorado, they'll make big rigs chain up in any ice condition and little or a shit load of snow. A dusting or 2 inches if snow makes traveling a hazard. Why, ice build up and the little snow will build up in the tires causing slippage.
Dennis Mckown I live in Wisconsin and for the most part only our emergency vehicles use chains.
The highest elevation in WI is about 2000 ft. So really no steep hills to speak of. Snow tires are best suited for that type of winter driving unless you're driving in the wilderness areas.
Yeah, I just got finished watching one of your massive wreaks in Wyoming - 80 , 90 vehicles - mostly big heavy rigs (apparently with no chains) as they slammed into the pile, one after the other. Now California may be weird, but even though we have far heavier snowfalls over the Sierra Nevada passes than Wyoming will ever see, we never seem to have the pileups Wyoming gets. And I'm guessin' chains might have something to do with it.
there are some mountains in Washington state, that i've driven over the top of, and they are higher than 1951 feet. :) tried to find it on the map, but its been a while US-97 from Columbia River to Yakima, "is not" a fun ride, if you're heavy.
San Bernardino Mountain, Big Bear, etc. when chains are required, the installers are out there. About $20 - $100.00+. Best to wait it out for a day or two for the roads to be plowed and melted.
since when do trailers need chains
Helps with braking; helps to keep the trailer behind the tractor, not along side of it during braking. Does nothing for acceleration.
to keep them from fish tailing
All these People hating on Californian using cable/chains. Lemme tell you this we don't really get snow in california just higher elevation and most higher elevations are parks, so if you just gunna visit once or twice a year there's really no point on buying snowntires, and yes that's just a slush but that's not What's waiting on higher elevation. So if you don't drive in california road you might wanna stop bashing on us using chains.
Snow chains for free or what ??
Fordbert That's what I'm thinking, the city probably didn't want a pile up so they gave em out.
Nope... you have to bring your own chains.. and pay the guys to put them on 9or listen to them complain about cheapskates when you put them on yourself and save $50)
nice 1-80 icy road snow snow chains rainbow/troy ca
Free chain giveaway day in Moronville!
HIP HIP Hooray for winter tires greetings from BC Canada
lmao can these people not drive in the slush, there is no need for chains
I remember that day it was a mess I left Tahoe City head over the mountain to head to Sacramento and lucky for me I own 2 4x4 all my friends and family as well you never know when you have Caltran asking is that in 4wd I say yes it is sir and they'll respond back and say drive slow and have a safe trip.
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Utterly stupid. Looks like a jobs program. All you have to do is salt the road.
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Nope... Salt/sand only works till it gets down to about 10F. Then you're screwed without chains.
Our last storm dropped 6 feet of snow on I-80. Salt? Jesus Christ!
What a nightmare, all that traffic combined with wretched conditions. Talk about "Slow me down, makin' no time." Ugh.
Lol muricans. Thats an average road all winter where i live.
Glad I don't live there, wherever it is.. Weather and arrogance, no thanks.
labrd41 weather is no problem when you are not an idiot. Also glad that you dont live here.
lol...that would suck...cold, wet, nasty...jesus christ dude, that is nothing to be proud of....
Jimmy Rustled it's not wet. Its snowy and pretty. The thousands of tourists seem to like it. 😊
+56 426 225 I have no idea what your ancient feet and miles mean. Also no idea where Nevada is. But I do live above the arctic circle so I know a bit about winters. And if you dont know what the arctic circle is, lets just say that most of Alaska is south of it.
Emergency services help installing chain? That's incredible.
i was always told that its better to keep moving in snow/ice conditions once you stop thats when the problem comes along
Yup, not missing Alaska even a little. 40 years was enough for me!
Been there many times even when they make us truckers to chain but not the four wheelers,then they crash and four or five hours later you can go again,always enjoyed watching the people chain the back wheels on a front wheel drive
It's done to keep the trailer behind you.
I had that snowfall in Rino I went for a walk with my family to Napa California and it was ugly, it was almost 8 hours that I was standing