The fact that it sounds simular to the sm7b for one forth the price is amazing. great video for people like me looking for more afordable options and to still have high quality results. looking forward to more vids
Yes! Yes. SM57 is a clearer, unveiled SM7B without a pop filter. Just get a pop filter and you're golden. That's what I use for my live stream and I love it.
I agree. There is no need to spend 400 USD. These stage mics are doing a great job, especially in an untreated environment. I purchased lately the Sennheiser e835 for 90 bucks after comparing with the shure SM58 in the studio of my favorite shop. Its amazing for the price. With my, a bit bassy voice, much clearer than the Shure in the midtones and not these cramped bass sounds in the lows. Very strong build quality a.s.o. In any case, we get lots of mic for the money.
100% agree, choose a stage mic and plug it into an entry-level or mid-level interface. Massive upgrade over a USB mic and you get a broadcast sound to boot!
I have both of these and I definitely like my 57 bitter, I like the looks of the SM7B but on my voice I like something with a little bit brighter sound than the 7B
Hello, I found you over on the Review Master's channel. I wanted to say thank you for that tip about Rode and Gator mic clamps working with that super expensive O. C. White low profile arm! I had been looking everywhere (on RUclips for that information). I would suck it up for the premium price of the arm but the clamp price just didn't seem right. And I actually use the SM57 sibling the SM58 for exactly the same reasons that you mentioned. And yeah, it is not the prettiest on camera but it sounds good. I also think it would look nicer with one of those flat top filters too but I keep mine off camera. But it is starting to grow on me, as long as the silver ball is covered with foam. LOL!
No problem! I was actually doing a lot of research to find that out myself. I've been using the Black OC White arm since last month with the standard Rode desk clamp that comes with the PSA1. No problems at all and it works perfectly :)
Can we please stop with this "SM7B needs a Cloudlifer" nonsense? It does not. It never has. I've used a SM7B for years with all kinds of entry level interfaces (Behringer, TC Electronic, M-Audio, Audient, Presonus) and I've never had a problem getting a usable signal out of it. Use the gain knob on your preamp. It's there for a reason.
You're not wrong. Pretty much any entry level interface with Midas preamps (UMC22 being the cheapest I know of) can give it plenty of gain to get to healthy levels. I bought the SM7B, Cloudlifter and Scarlett solo at the same time a few years ago, so I figured I may as well continue using the Cloudlifter with the GoXLR. The GoXLR has a few odd software-related issues, namely the one that causes it to exhibit hissing in the headphone output/mic monitoring that doesn't exist in the final recording, but is certainly audible when you use the zero latency monitoring at any decent volume, and this might be the reason why people still use the Cloudlifter with it. It also has an issue with the SM7B that causes it to peak at anything higher than around 48db of gain, so it's recommended to use much lower gain than Shure recommends (60db is what their official documentation lists, but that's too high in every circumstance and leaves no headroom to prevent clipping.) and to use the compressor's make-up gain to compensate for the rest. It's definitely starting to show it's age and I'm curious to see what device replaces it in terms of being so ubiquitous for live streaming. I've also used the SM7B with a Motu M2 and can get perfectly healthy levels out of it as well, no inline pre-amp required :)
I have the sm7b with my Scarlett solo with no cloudlifter, and I can tell you this. For a clean signal. You need a cloud lifter. Just got a cloud-lifter and the difference is clear. I would say the video is good advice. I wish I saw it before I bought mine
@@jennycampbell1924 no you don't unless it's a first gen. 50 GB of gain is enough you use the plugins native or other wise in obs to compensate. Just requires a little know how.
Agreed. Most decent mixer boards or other interfaces, even budget models will provide more than enough gain, making the need for a cloudlifter or a similar preamp wholly unnecessary.
Overall, I agree with you about the SM57. Using the Shure wind/pop screen, it replicates the SM7 quite well, without the low output level and higher price of the SM7. It has been the mic of choice for American presidents for many decades. However,... BEWARE... when buying a used SM57, as there are many counterfeits of the SM57 on the used marketplace, and quite often, the sellers of those mics are not even aware they're selling a knock off. One is better off buying one new from a reputable dealer than ending up with a fake.
Couldn’t agree more! I can’t preach it enough on my channel for reviews…spending $400 on the Shure SM7B is OVERKILL. Buy it if YOU LIKE IT, but don’t buy just because everybody else has one. There are so many excellent options out there! You can even slip this mic into a DIY mod housing kit and hide the look, getting that awesome SM57 sound and it will look more like the SM7B without the price tag. Great video, great content. Got my sub!
Great take , I have been looking at mics for a while and have been thinking do I want to invest money into something expensive if I just want to dabble in streaming and making videos? This seems like a good option and ill check it out.
You won't be disappointed, especially with the official Shure accessories! It already sounds great, but they help it look just as professional and nice on camera as anything else out there.
thanks... would you buy sm57 used if price is great? ... how do they hold up are they pretty durable? .. I'm new at all this but I come across them used online quite often
The SM57® the micophone choice of every US president since it's release. If that doesn't sell it, I don't know what will. Also, yes, the SM57 is probably THE most versatile mic on the planet, as it is like you said, used on pretty much anything that needs to be mic'ed. And comming from an audio engineer, IMO, this i the only mic you'd ever need.
Interestingly enough I tested this mic and a beta58a last week against a sm7b as I was curious about the difference. Now Although it's much cheaper I still opted to stick with the sm7b, the sm57 needed a pop filter and it wouldn't stay stable on my boom arm. Sm57 is a better choice to mic an instrument. Definitely a good idea if you can resolve these problems ( probably with those accessories) and want to save a bunch of money though. Also you shouldn't need a cloudlifter in this day and age with most interfaces I'm doing it with a 100 dollar maudio 192:4 air which still has clean gain right up to 95 percent on the gain knob and everyone should be using plugins in obs to improve and louden the audio anyway using obs built in (compressor, limiter, downward expander to eliminate the noise floor Ect.) This idea you can't boost the audio for live streaming simply is not true.
I'd say most 200 dollar interfaces can handle the gain without an in-line preamp. I use a Motu M2 for recording when not using the GoXLR and it does the job just fine.
@@Stampede_G yeah especially in this day and age. I actually have a cloudlifter as well and decided not to use it, the noise floor was actually less on this Interface than with it with correct gain levels. I do use a bunch of in a plugins on top when streaming live though but I might just be overly OCD about audio.
@@via_negativa6183 haha sounds like we're one and the same. Since I already bought the SM7B and the Cloudlifter, figured I may as well use them. My chain is SM7B -> Cloudlifter -> GoXLR for streaming, swap the GoXLR for the dbx 286s and M2 for just recording. GoXLR is plugged into a Furman power conditioner to avoid EMI/RFI noise. Even with all that sometimes you second-guess yourself and SWEAR you still hear something.
SM57/58 are pretty much identical mics, the only real difference is the design of the end. The 57 has that resonance cap, the 58 has the dome style, but the sound out of them may as well be 1:1 since the construction is the same. Can't go wrong with either!
@TonyLewisOKR it's not that. Obviously the sm7b sounds much smoother and very different than the sm57. If it weren't significantly better, it wouldn't cost that much more.
@@Stampede_G I must agree 100%. I do have a Rode Podmic and Boom arm as well, but NOTHING outshines the look and screams TV/Radio production like a SM7B!
Which part? The shock mount on the mic or the extension rod? The extension rod is the Shure a55m, the extension is the a26x. A26x - www.amazon.com/Shure-A26X-Extension-Various-Mounting/dp/B0006NMSWO A55m - www.amazon.com/Shure-A55M-Stopper-BETA87A-BETA87C/dp/B0002GZOSA Hope this helps!
The world of virtual reality ( youtube, instagram etc...) is totally different than the real world.. the VR world is ruled by hype, follow-syndrome and subjectivities while the real world is ruled by pragmatism.. The sm57 && sm58 have always been used in the real world for all purposes from a presidential speech in the whitehouse to big concerts, studio cab micing to acoustic instruments amplification ( violins, cellos, upright bass, brass and woodwinds ).. The SM7B is a hype for the VR world...They(sm7b, sm57, sm58) all have the same sound and freq spectrum. I use a cheaper shure mic for live upright bass micing ( Shure sv100) and it sounds nearly as good as my premium ribbon mics for studio work. In sum, the law of diminishing returns is real
You're right. I mentioned in another comment but this was done with the free version of Davinci resolve and caused a lot of issues with the audio. I plan to remake this with the SM58 in the video as well and do it properly.
You'd be surprised. I've seen that referenced multiple times when people say not only why they buy an SM7B in the first place, but why they won't get a 57 or 58.
Yet you’re using a SHURE that Joe Rogan and EVERY PODCASTER uses? I’m not knocking you at all. Great great video. Why is this SHURE so great? Is the mic you’re using better than the SM57 you’re using in the video? Very very knowledgeable 👏 👏 👏😢
I bought the SM57 to use at a work setup months after getting the 7B and was surprised to learn how great it sounded. Just wanted to spread the word that people don't have to shell out for an SM7B to get great podcast/livestream/conference call audio :)
I find the sound quite fatiguing after a very short time. With this nicely treated room I would go for a condenser mic instead to sound more natural. Like a Line Audio CM4 for about the same money, still with a small form factor. I guess the windscreen and the shock mount would be half the price of the mic itself.
The audio in this was butchered, it was edited with the free version of davinci resolve which gives you a very low audio bitrate once it's exported. I'll re-record this style of video in premier for better results, also figured out some better gain settings for the GoXLR + Cloudlifter that aren't so abrasive.
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The fact that it sounds simular to the sm7b for one forth the price is amazing. great video for people like me looking for more afordable options and to still have high quality results. looking forward to more vids
Yes! Yes. SM57 is a clearer, unveiled SM7B without a pop filter. Just get a pop filter and you're golden. That's what I use for my live stream and I love it.
I agree. There is no need to spend 400 USD. These stage mics are doing a great job, especially in an untreated environment. I purchased lately the Sennheiser e835 for 90 bucks after comparing with the shure SM58 in the studio of my favorite shop. Its amazing for the price. With my, a bit bassy voice, much clearer than the Shure in the midtones and not these cramped bass sounds in the lows. Very strong build quality a.s.o. In any case, we get lots of mic for the money.
100% agree, choose a stage mic and plug it into an entry-level or mid-level interface. Massive upgrade over a USB mic and you get a broadcast sound to boot!
The E835 has been my choice for “live” performance singing for years
I have both of these and I definitely like my 57 bitter, I like the looks of the SM7B but on my voice I like something with a little bit brighter sound than the 7B
Hello, I found you over on the Review Master's channel. I wanted to say thank you for that tip about Rode and Gator mic clamps working with that super expensive O. C. White low profile arm! I had been looking everywhere (on RUclips for that information). I would suck it up for the premium price of the arm but the clamp price just didn't seem right. And I actually use the SM57 sibling the SM58 for exactly the same reasons that you mentioned. And yeah, it is not the prettiest on camera but it sounds good. I also think it would look nicer with one of those flat top filters too but I keep mine off camera. But it is starting to grow on me, as long as the silver ball is covered with foam. LOL!
No problem! I was actually doing a lot of research to find that out myself. I've been using the Black OC White arm since last month with the standard Rode desk clamp that comes with the PSA1. No problems at all and it works perfectly :)
That is good to hear that it works perfectly! If you don't mind me asking, was it worth upgrading from the PSA1?@@Stampede_G
The SM57 is a great mic, and you can even mic a guitar or keyboard amp with it.
It also looks killer with its accessories.
Absolutely, the accessories complete the look and it's one of the most versatile mics out there!
Can we please stop with this "SM7B needs a Cloudlifer" nonsense? It does not. It never has. I've used a SM7B for years with all kinds of entry level interfaces (Behringer, TC Electronic, M-Audio, Audient, Presonus) and I've never had a problem getting a usable signal out of it. Use the gain knob on your preamp. It's there for a reason.
You're not wrong. Pretty much any entry level interface with Midas preamps (UMC22 being the cheapest I know of) can give it plenty of gain to get to healthy levels. I bought the SM7B, Cloudlifter and Scarlett solo at the same time a few years ago, so I figured I may as well continue using the Cloudlifter with the GoXLR.
The GoXLR has a few odd software-related issues, namely the one that causes it to exhibit hissing in the headphone output/mic monitoring that doesn't exist in the final recording, but is certainly audible when you use the zero latency monitoring at any decent volume, and this might be the reason why people still use the Cloudlifter with it.
It also has an issue with the SM7B that causes it to peak at anything higher than around 48db of gain, so it's recommended to use much lower gain than Shure recommends (60db is what their official documentation lists, but that's too high in every circumstance and leaves no headroom to prevent clipping.) and to use the compressor's make-up gain to compensate for the rest.
It's definitely starting to show it's age and I'm curious to see what device replaces it in terms of being so ubiquitous for live streaming.
I've also used the SM7B with a Motu M2 and can get perfectly healthy levels out of it as well, no inline pre-amp required :)
I have the sm7b with my Scarlett solo with no cloudlifter, and I can tell you this. For a clean signal. You need a cloud lifter. Just got a cloud-lifter and the difference is clear. I would say the video is good advice. I wish I saw it before I bought mine
Don’t get me wrong, I have a great mic but I have to spend extra cash that I don’t have to get it working
@@jennycampbell1924 no you don't unless it's a first gen. 50 GB of gain is enough you use the plugins native or other wise in obs to compensate. Just requires a little know how.
Agreed. Most decent mixer boards or other interfaces, even budget models will provide more than enough gain, making the need for a cloudlifter or a similar preamp wholly unnecessary.
Great discussion! I have the SM7B but also want an SM57
It's a super versatile mic and easy to work with :)
you make great content wow, somehow made my morning epic
SM57 on scarlett and some other interfaces also require a fethead or cloudfilter
Overall, I agree with you about the SM57. Using the Shure wind/pop screen, it replicates the SM7 quite well, without the low output level and higher price of the SM7. It has been the mic of choice for American presidents for many decades. However,... BEWARE... when buying a used SM57, as there are many counterfeits of the SM57 on the used marketplace, and quite often, the sellers of those mics are not even aware they're selling a knock off. One is better off buying one new from a reputable dealer than ending up with a fake.
Awesome. Great kit. Thanks for sharing.
Couldn’t agree more! I can’t preach it enough on my channel for reviews…spending $400 on the Shure SM7B is OVERKILL. Buy it if YOU LIKE IT, but don’t buy just because everybody else has one. There are so many excellent options out there! You can even slip this mic into a DIY mod housing kit and hide the look, getting that awesome SM57 sound and it will look more like the SM7B without the price tag. Great video, great content. Got my sub!
SM57 is one of the most ubiquitous mics in the world for a reason. Thanks! More videos on the way :)
Great take , I have been looking at mics for a while and have been thinking do I want to invest money into something expensive if I just want to dabble in streaming and making videos? This seems like a good option and ill check it out.
You won't be disappointed, especially with the official Shure accessories! It already sounds great, but they help it look just as professional and nice on camera as anything else out there.
thanks...
would you buy sm57 used if price is great? ... how do they hold up are they pretty durable? .. I'm new at all this but I come across them used online quite often
Absolutely! They're known to be extremely durable mics.
@@Stampede_G good deal .. thx
The SM57® the micophone choice of every US president since it's release.
If that doesn't sell it, I don't know what will.
Also, yes, the SM57 is probably THE most versatile mic on the planet, as it is like you said, used on pretty much anything that needs to be mic'ed. And comming from an audio engineer, IMO, this i the only mic you'd ever need.
Very true! I love it for spoken word but it really can be used for anything :)
Presidents are lying actors though.
@@chrisw5742 I don't know that, i am from Europe
But sure, probably
@@Zidakuh They are. All the world's a stage bro
@@Zidakuh Still a dam good mic though
Interestingly enough I tested this mic and a beta58a last week against a sm7b as I was curious about the difference. Now Although it's much cheaper I still opted to stick with the sm7b, the sm57 needed a pop filter and it wouldn't stay stable on my boom arm. Sm57 is a better choice to mic an instrument. Definitely a good idea if you can resolve these problems ( probably with those accessories) and want to save a bunch of money though. Also you shouldn't need a cloudlifter in this day and age with most interfaces I'm doing it with a 100 dollar maudio 192:4 air which still has clean gain right up to 95 percent on the gain knob and everyone should be using plugins in obs to improve and louden the audio anyway using obs built in (compressor, limiter, downward expander to eliminate the noise floor Ect.) This idea you can't boost the audio for live streaming simply is not true.
I'd say most 200 dollar interfaces can handle the gain without an in-line preamp. I use a Motu M2 for recording when not using the GoXLR and it does the job just fine.
@@Stampede_G yeah especially in this day and age. I actually have a cloudlifter as well and decided not to use it, the noise floor was actually less on this Interface than with it with correct gain levels. I do use a bunch of in a plugins on top when streaming live though but I might just be overly OCD about audio.
@@via_negativa6183 haha sounds like we're one and the same. Since I already bought the SM7B and the Cloudlifter, figured I may as well use them. My chain is SM7B -> Cloudlifter -> GoXLR for streaming, swap the GoXLR for the dbx 286s and M2 for just recording. GoXLR is plugged into a Furman power conditioner to avoid EMI/RFI noise. Even with all that sometimes you second-guess yourself and SWEAR you still hear something.
youre just trying to justify that you overpaid
@@whelenguyno. You are trying to justify that you didn't pay more.
What is funny is the SM57 is good enough for the White House press room and Tom Petty, and people at home think they need better for RUclips.
Thanx for letting us know
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this video bro Shure should give you money for this. I will try to use the links you provided hopefully they are affiliate links
i got the sm58 since its pretty identical but heard it is better for vocals than the sm57
SM57/58 are pretty much identical mics, the only real difference is the design of the end. The 57 has that resonance cap, the 58 has the dome style, but the sound out of them may as well be 1:1 since the construction is the same. Can't go wrong with either!
Your SM57 sounds better than SM7B (i also have the expensive one) and more clearer !
Nice silent hill 4 outro!
The high end boost switch on the 7B is there is you want a brighter sound.)
imagine paying a 300 dollar premium for a switch
@TonyLewisOKR it's not that. Obviously the sm7b sounds much smoother and very different than the sm57. If it weren't significantly better, it wouldn't cost that much more.
Great video
Thank you
You're welcome! Glad you enjoyed!
Using a cloud lifter on the sm57 worth it?
No! Scarlett 2i2 is absolutely fine
As bad as i want a SM 7B, my SM57 into my Universal Audio Volt 476 sounds amazing. I think I only want the 7B for bragging rights 😂
I'm not gonna lie, the SM7B looks amazing on camera. Aesthetics are important when mics and boom arms are pretty much set pieces these days.
@@Stampede_G I must agree 100%. I do have a Rode Podmic and Boom arm as well, but NOTHING outshines the look and screams TV/Radio production like a SM7B!
At least on airpods its almost impossible to tell the difference. Which shows how good the sm57.
Hi could you put the link to the attach between the mic and the mic stand pls, i cant find it.
Which part? The shock mount on the mic or the extension rod?
The extension rod is the Shure a55m, the extension is the a26x.
A26x - www.amazon.com/Shure-A26X-Extension-Various-Mounting/dp/B0006NMSWO
A55m - www.amazon.com/Shure-A55M-Stopper-BETA87A-BETA87C/dp/B0002GZOSA
Hope this helps!
A perfect microphone better than 7b
The world of virtual reality ( youtube, instagram etc...) is totally different than the real world.. the VR world is ruled by hype, follow-syndrome and subjectivities while the real world is ruled by pragmatism.. The sm57 && sm58 have always been used in the real world for all purposes from a presidential speech in the whitehouse to big concerts, studio cab micing to acoustic instruments amplification ( violins, cellos, upright bass, brass and woodwinds ).. The SM7B is a hype for the VR world...They(sm7b, sm57, sm58) all have the same sound and freq spectrum. I use a cheaper shure mic for live upright bass micing ( Shure sv100) and it sounds nearly as good as my premium ribbon mics for studio work. In sum, the law of diminishing returns is real
I am hearing a lot of sound artefacts in your voice with both mics.
You're right. I mentioned in another comment but this was done with the free version of Davinci resolve and caused a lot of issues with the audio.
I plan to remake this with the SM58 in the video as well and do it properly.
Who is this GIGACHAD in 4k??
Voicemeeter helps. I still prefer the beefy sound of SM7B.
Funny to worry about what a mic _looks_ like.
You'd be surprised. I've seen that referenced multiple times when people say not only why they buy an SM7B in the first place, but why they won't get a 57 or 58.
Yet you’re using a SHURE that Joe Rogan and EVERY PODCASTER uses? I’m not knocking you at all. Great great video. Why is this SHURE so great? Is the mic you’re using better than the SM57 you’re using in the video? Very very knowledgeable 👏 👏 👏😢
I bought the SM57 to use at a work setup months after getting the 7B and was surprised to learn how great it sounded. Just wanted to spread the word that people don't have to shell out for an SM7B to get great podcast/livestream/conference call audio :)
or even just buy a t.bone MB75
sE V7 sounds better
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I find the sound quite fatiguing after a very short time. With this nicely treated room I would go for a condenser mic instead to sound more natural. Like a Line Audio CM4 for about the same money, still with a small form factor. I guess the windscreen and the shock mount would be half the price of the mic itself.
The audio in this was butchered, it was edited with the free version of davinci resolve which gives you a very low audio bitrate once it's exported.
I'll re-record this style of video in premier for better results, also figured out some better gain settings for the GoXLR + Cloudlifter that aren't so abrasive.