The mountain is cruel, and the challenge is incredible. You can only know it by being there and done it yourself. I can feel the pain you guys had, but i can also confirm that once you make it, it pays off for all the sleep dept and countless hours wrenching, and midnight oil burned. Being there just on the line is one thing, reaching the checkered flag another. Long live the good old 4AGE!
4ag is a “hero motor” because all us ae86, mr2, Corolla people only dream of making it to where this video took us. Congratulations to the technical achievements thus far, and showing up to race day. Will definitely be rooting for you and looking forward to the updates, and hopefully learn something along the way to improve my 4ag performance and reliability. Thank you
I knew how this ended from the start but I still enjoyed watching it. With a year of prep time things will end up better. I think maybe the best thing that could come out of this besides a better result next year is even more advancement in 4a parts.
Great series gents. Mirl is an old friend from our club racing days and the openness of this series taught me a lot about how to better prepare my team for the 2024 Sand Hills Open Road Race. Best of luck in '24!
This was awesome dudes, thanks for sharing , what an experience! Bummer about the engine issues, but all understandable under the circumstances. Well done, great achievements regardless 👏
I am commenting in sequence, I've deleted most of my comments..............but you need a change in metrics, and it will work. Again you are speaking with the industry's best in North America...........Thank you for your vlogs. I know exactly whats needed, and so do you. Cheers
Great series guys. Massive effort to get the car on the line for qualifying/race day and it's good to see it shared without sugar coating. In my experience the tight development timeline and the opportunity for a relaxed shakedown are hard to overcome. Everyone kept level heads and got on with the job which is a credit and you really had pretty poor luck! Good to also highlight that's it's difficult and important to keep your composure when officials throw a wild card at you 3 minutes before the start. That's on top of Super Karen who pinned you on tyre warmers (who's probably a volunteer and deserves full kudos for that). That's 100% the thing that fosters a driving mistake, forgotten harness strap, missed wheel nut, missed oil pressure warning etc. Do you use the nitrous at all for anything other than when you're off boost (like compensating for power loss at altitude as well as helping spool)? I imagine there'd be a bit of a balance with bottle size as much as other things. I was there a week before this event (bad timing) and seriously considering a trip with a cross kart I've got on order if it fits within a category, logistics etc. Like I said, massive effort and it sucks you didn't get a bit of luck fall your way!
Thanks brother it was literally the hardest 2 weeks of my life when it comes to lack of sleep and stress but mirl never list his cool and his determination drove me to not want to quit, he is a true leader and you would follow him into war and let me tell you it was war with this car lol We where using nitrous for spool response and barometric is combated by boost so we learnt a few things on the hill like going oversize on the turbo as you will constantly damage turbos to overspeed if your running the turbo at full tilt @ sea level so loosing barometric means to achieve the same boost at half barometric means you need more speed so we broke a few turbos learning this We ended up using a turbo pid speed boost control at the end but we didn't really get a chance to use it but data logs showed it working
Mirl is super chill early on at the point of the first valve train issue. He seemed to set the tone for chipping hard at each hurdle without over reaction on such a tight timescale. 👌 Initial turbo failure, over speed possibly due to the throttle dump leaking?
I think the overspeed was due to the intake leak we were chasing this whole time, Although our neighbour with the Porsche was having the same issue so the thinner air at the high altitude might also play a part. Mirls attitude was extremely admirable, I think he's developed an extremely high stress tolerance after all these years of racing.
And at that moment, he knew the dream was over... Not all stories have a happy ending unfortunately. But old matte seems to have seriously deep pockets, so the story continues.
@@KiG1208 I’m not 100% sure but what you’re saying definitely makes sense because we had problems with the dash working I’ll get back to you when I find out
I cant beleive you guys used h beam rods made from china, matt you have argo rods (i beam) for your own build, why would you go h beam?! We used custom argo rods for 100% custom builds 20 years ago on sr's, gtrs and barras. H beam is for na i beam is for turbo. There is extensive data you are able to find online that shows this. I loved the episodes having had a 4age with itbs this was a build series like no other! But as soon as i saw the chinese h beams reving to the moon with a billion to 1 comp i knew this wasnt getting to the top. Unfortunate but you shoulda known matt. It was on you as head engineer/mechanic to tell the owner NO. max rpm is 11000-12000 MAX.. all tests should have been done on an engine dyno, as everyones tine wouldnt have been wasted. Though it was a fkn cool series, so there is that. Dont mean to sound like im having a go, but having worked of race cars in teams and 1000hp cars 20 years ago before tik too made it cool, this is what would have happened. Hindsights a bitch though. Thanks for the content none the less. 😊
Carillo are made in USA and those rods where designed for hasslegren by carillo for this build, I personally wouldn't have used them and got custom I beams but time was of the essence so I trusted hasslgegren and carillo's decision to go with h beam Also I didn't like the rod bolt size or lack of harmonic damper but these are things that are getting changed for next time
@@mtperformanceengines3508 oh apologies, I missed that they where carillo, they looked like what everyone is putting in their engine just with a different name.
This is the best thing I’ve seen on RUclips in years man, you killed it on this series. New subscriber here long time ae86 / 4age nerd.
That’s awesome man thanks for the great feedback
It’s a shame this series isn’t getting as many views as usual
The mountain is cruel, and the challenge is incredible. You can only know it by being there and done it yourself. I can feel the pain you guys had, but i can also confirm that once you make it, it pays off for all the sleep dept and countless hours wrenching, and midnight oil burned. Being there just on the line is one thing, reaching the checkered flag another. Long live the good old 4AGE!
Hope to see you there next year with the starlet?
@@NEVER-LIFT maybe one day again.
4ag is a “hero motor” because all us ae86, mr2, Corolla people only dream of making it to where this video took us. Congratulations to the technical achievements thus far, and showing up to race day. Will definitely be rooting for you and looking forward to the updates, and hopefully learn something along the way to improve my 4ag performance and reliability. Thank you
I knew how this ended from the start but I still enjoyed watching it. With a year of prep time things will end up better.
I think maybe the best thing that could come out of this besides a better result next year is even more advancement in 4a parts.
Great series gents. Mirl is an old friend from our club racing days and the openness of this series taught me a lot about how to better prepare my team for the 2024 Sand Hills Open Road Race. Best of luck in '24!
What a great series, cant wait for next year challenge
This was awesome dudes, thanks for sharing , what an experience! Bummer about the engine issues, but all understandable under the circumstances. Well done, great achievements regardless 👏
Sad to see it end like this, but yeah thats racing. That thing is mental though and can't wait to see you guys trying again, especially for Mirl.
Great series guys! Thank you for taking us along! Looking forward to next year and more videos from DownUnder!!!
Oh and YT recommended this series about a week or so after I saw the video from Larry Chan! Gopd ol' algorithm!
@@natesimmons8241 Thanks for the feedback mate I really appreciate it. Nice to see youtube is sharing this around
I am commenting in sequence, I've deleted most of my comments..............but you need a change in metrics, and it will work. Again you are speaking with the industry's best in North America...........Thank you for your vlogs. I know exactly whats needed, and so do you. Cheers
Great series guys. Massive effort to get the car on the line for qualifying/race day and it's good to see it shared without sugar coating.
In my experience the tight development timeline and the opportunity for a relaxed shakedown are hard to overcome. Everyone kept level heads and got on with the job which is a credit and you really had pretty poor luck!
Good to also highlight that's it's difficult and important to keep your composure when officials throw a wild card at you 3 minutes before the start. That's on top of Super Karen who pinned you on tyre warmers (who's probably a volunteer and deserves full kudos for that). That's 100% the thing that fosters a driving mistake, forgotten harness strap, missed wheel nut, missed oil pressure warning etc.
Do you use the nitrous at all for anything other than when you're off boost (like compensating for power loss at altitude as well as helping spool)? I imagine there'd be a bit of a balance with bottle size as much as other things.
I was there a week before this event (bad timing) and seriously considering a trip with a cross kart I've got on order if it fits within a category, logistics etc.
Like I said, massive effort and it sucks you didn't get a bit of luck fall your way!
Thanks brother it was literally the hardest 2 weeks of my life when it comes to lack of sleep and stress but mirl never list his cool and his determination drove me to not want to quit, he is a true leader and you would follow him into war and let me tell you it was war with this car lol
We where using nitrous for spool response and barometric is combated by boost so we learnt a few things on the hill like going oversize on the turbo as you will constantly damage turbos to overspeed if your running the turbo at full tilt @ sea level so loosing barometric means to achieve the same boost at half barometric means you need more speed so we broke a few turbos learning this
We ended up using a turbo pid speed boost control at the end but we didn't really get a chance to use it but data logs showed it working
sucks about the failure. good luck with the rebuild and lead up to the next event.
Thanks mate
Awsome series. Deserves way more views
Awesome Video. Lots of work went into the Swift, Engine and Video.
Thank you
Mirl is super chill early on at the point of the first valve train issue. He seemed to set the tone for chipping hard at each hurdle without over reaction on such a tight timescale. 👌
Initial turbo failure, over speed possibly due to the throttle dump leaking?
I think the overspeed was due to the intake leak we were chasing this whole time, Although our neighbour with the Porsche was having the same issue so the thinner air at the high altitude might also play a part.
Mirls attitude was extremely admirable, I think he's developed an extremely high stress tolerance after all these years of racing.
And at that moment, he knew the dream was over...
Not all stories have a happy ending unfortunately. But old matte seems to have seriously deep pockets, so the story continues.
What cylinder was it? Same one with the valve kiss?
What cosworth device is being used to send info to the dash display?
I believe the cosworth dash talks to the emtron ecu
@@NEVER-LIFT are you sure? I use cosworth products and the dash can only be ran by another cosworth device other ethernet … its not an open protocol
@@KiG1208 I’m not 100% sure but what you’re saying definitely makes sense because we had problems with the dash working
I’ll get back to you when I find out
@@NEVER-LIFT if its too much trouble not to worry … was just wondering if it was a data logger or a centarus… 💪🏾
so next time when the engine builder tells you 8700, you listen lol tl:dr driver error way to much rpm and not enough rod bolt
I cant beleive you guys used h beam rods made from china, matt you have argo rods (i beam) for your own build, why would you go h beam?! We used custom argo rods for 100% custom builds 20 years ago on sr's, gtrs and barras. H beam is for na i beam is for turbo. There is extensive data you are able to find online that shows this.
I loved the episodes having had a 4age with itbs this was a build series like no other! But as soon as i saw the chinese h beams reving to the moon with a billion to 1 comp i knew this wasnt getting to the top. Unfortunate but you shoulda known matt. It was on you as head engineer/mechanic to tell the owner NO. max rpm is 11000-12000 MAX.. all tests should have been done on an engine dyno, as everyones tine wouldnt have been wasted. Though it was a fkn cool series, so there is that. Dont mean to sound like im having a go, but having worked of race cars in teams and 1000hp cars 20 years ago before tik too made it cool, this is what would have happened. Hindsights a bitch though.
Thanks for the content none the less. 😊
Carillo are made in USA and those rods where designed for hasslegren by carillo for this build, I personally wouldn't have used them and got custom I beams but time was of the essence so I trusted hasslgegren and carillo's decision to go with h beam
Also I didn't like the rod bolt size or lack of harmonic damper but these are things that are getting changed for next time
@@mtperformanceengines3508 oh apologies, I missed that they where carillo, they looked like what everyone is putting in their engine just with a different name.