*UPDATE 3:* The video is now back up! ruclips.net/video/keuGmE6g3bo/видео.html *UPDATE 2:* On May 23rd, MrBadim sent a copyright takedown request against the Atomic Fabrik video. It was declined. He once again failed to fill out the form correctly. *UPDATE: RUclips's DMCA team finally forwarded the counterclaim.* They actually declined my third counterclaim initially, based upon the form being incomplete(??) even though it wasn't. But it appears that TeamRUclips asked them to review it, after which they realized they made a mistake (for the third time), and correctly forwarded the counterclaim. This system is INSANE, but I'm glad they finally got it right. Now, the claimant (MrBadim's son, I guess) has 10-14 business days to produce evidence they are taking legal action against me, otherwise the video will be reinstated.
Bro I am so sorry this happened to you! This is not ok. I wish that youtube would wake the frick up (keeping it nsfw filtered) and would do their *LEGAL* jobs. Just know that your fans love you! (Also I love your cat it looks like mine.)
Fire, this is not even a joke: Take to twitter. Whenever a tweet about a false copyright claim gets even the slightest bit of traction, they very quickly take care of it (because it shows them in a bad light).
Went down to the comments for the stretch the instant I saw it, should have known someone else beat me to it. Also, glad I was able to catch the original video before shananigans happened.
The issue isn't about whether YT "cares" - many people working there do. It's about whether they "can" care. False claims like this are super easy to produce and that means YT gets probably hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of these every day. If each of them was human checked, they'd be constantly in loss just to pay those people.
"Why is the level of scrutiny given to my counter claim higher than the level of the scrutiny given to the take down?" That's the main problem with RUclips's DMCA system in a single sentence.
It's not an especially satisfying reason.. but the reason it works that way is that youtube normally has protection from copyright laws on content that its users put on youtube, up until they get a request to take it down. Once they get a request to take it down, if they don't take it down and it actually does break copyright laws then youtube can also be legally liable for it instead of just the person who created it.. which means that as soon as they get a request to take something down, they almost always err on the side of removing it because they don't want to run the risk of hosting content that they could be held liable for.
@@asdfqwerty14587 True, and the worst part is that implies that the incentive for RUclips to deny fireb0rn's counter claim request would be out of fear of Supercell coming in to sue them for allowing images of a plagiarized elixer collector model to appear on their platform, not for the fraudulent claim of copyright ownership that Vadim coerced his son into making. That they know it was blatantly false, but still think it could hurt them if they don't uphold it, so they go with it anyways.
copyright in general very one sided to those abusing power (i mean like, 'ai' is allowed, but a nintendo fangame is forced to be taken down, en masse corporate theft, vs someone making something about a thing they like)
@@asdfqwerty14587 To add: I don't know that it's been tested in court but the platform is generally thought to still have section 230 protection for improper take-downs. So even though there is theoretically a counter-claim system in the DMCA, there's not much incentive to do more than the bare minimum on it. The improper takedown submitter might be liable but the platform probably isn't.
@@professorhaystacks6606You have it slightly backwards. It is exactly because they treat every potential copywriter claim as legitimate that they keep their safe harbor protection. If they decided to arbitrarily deny some and not remove the content, they would be putting themselves personally liable for the following lawsuit. If fireborn for example tried to enjoin RUclips against this guy, they would easy be able to have the judge remove them from the suit through section 230 exactly because they acted on the copywrite claim. I agree that I don’t believe the act of denying a counter-claim has been tested. But that may go into YTs TOS where they are not obligated to host your videos and can take them down for any reason they wish. They deny the counter claim by effectively saying they will not host your video regardless, and then you really have no recourse since at that point the video being removed is YT just not wanting to deal with it rather than a copywrite dispute. Edit: it would be interesting if a creator with sufficient means tried to enjoin YT in a suit against someone under 512(f), suggesting that RUclips does have a duty to evaluate counter claims (judge the reasonableness of the original copywrite claimant) rather than only the initial claimant for copywrite.
It's broken from either side, for the record. My old channel was entirely terminated for submitting a takedown on a video that was fully owned and produced by me. I've been trying to get my old channel back for weeks at this point, and they refuse to put it back up. It got to the point where I literally mailed in a DMCA to them. No response, whatsoever.
That's actually INSANE that so many people get away with false claims yet RUclips is nuking channels that have valid reasons for takedowns. Have you tried tagging Team RUclips on Twitter?
That is absolutely insane. My wife watched your video and told me about your comment. I feel like there has to be something horribly wrong with the work conditions of the human reviewers, or the guidelines they use... or something else. Sorry to hear that you're going through this.
Copyright abuse again? That sucks. To think hes coming after u trying to make a living for your family, especially after he's insulted your wife for no reason only makes his character clearer. I hope people stop bullying you fire because you have real talent. I hope that whatever happens next works out for you. Have a great day, you deserve it.
If I had a nickel for every time Fireb0rn worked on a video exposing a person/group for months only for it to be taken down by a copyright strike from the exposed, I would have two nickles, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird (and sad) that it’s happened twice.
Honestly, it's frustrating to see so much work just thrown away like this. Both took lots of time and were clearly researched, and that's just demoralizing.
Fireborn is losing to a certified lolcow. He is just not cut out for milking this type of individual's. I would expect hilarious discord call with badim shitting himself. Yet fireborn just made third yt video crying about his wife receiving message from badims mom ffs(remember it is horrible harassment to be contacted by 80 yo helicopter mom and absolutely not on demand circus).
@@Igorooooleynikovdude this isn’t a fireb0rn problem RUclips does the constantly to other creators it dosnt matter how many subscribers or what clips in the video or any of that abuses happens constantly even to RUclipsrs with more subs that him and even whole companies calling RUclips out on how bad their copyright system is
To answer the rhetorical question, OP, they are making money hand-over-fist at the expense of thousands of content creators. Unless they feel like someone has a legitimate claim legally that could hurt their bottom line, they care about your wellbeing about as much as most governments do
@@norrecvizharan1177 well idk specifically if the dad tried claiming that first. I'd have to rewatch Fire's video but I don't the Badim was claiming the thing about the Void Machine first. That's why when his "son," the claimed creator of the Void Machine, reported it for copyright since it "belongs" to the son. That's how i'm interpreting it at least. I get what you're saying tho cuz Badim did try to report it first, that's why he switched up. But Fire's still right with the whole fair use/ fair dealing thing cuz it is investigative journalism AND he cited the source, albeit a copyrighted asset
While the whole news article exposing debacle would be hard due to to how large of a legal team they can afford, this is PERFECT grounds for a lawsuit. You shouldn't have to stand for this mistreatment of the RUclips copyright system, Fireborn, and I am incredibly upset that you have to. Wishing you the best, man.
Imagine if such a lawsuit became public knowledge, i bet it would encourage heaps of other creators to sue as well and get US copyright laws under scrutiny (because lets face it, that's the only law youtube follows). If only i wasn't always strapped for cash, i'd say he should start a fundraiser so we could donate to his legal fund.
@@ARM0RP0WER not just youtube/google/etc, but also a biiiiiiig chunk of creators and consumers, so yeah, it would be the way but thanks to lobbying, good luck getting any sort of permanent resolution, lol we can already thank disney for fuqing up copyright, such as the "mickey clause", so now you need to wait like an entire generation or two before stuff even loses copyright in the first place.... :|
As one of the people who have finished the OG video, I hope you fight tooth and nail to bring it back, or upload to an external source. It is very frustrating to think that anyone can deflect criticism at them through a copyright claim, and hours of irrefutable work can just be undone like that.
Man, this video hit home. Last year I had a different RUclips channel of mine terminated because I had 3 simultaneous copyright claims filed by a game publishing company who I had criticized. I basically received the same automated responses rejecting all of my counter claims. I never got the channel back, after 4 months of trying. A lot of lost time and money, and RUclips will never resolve the problem.
@@LuketheDuke424 Alright, I’ll keep it in mind! If you want to point me to some resources on the problem, I’ll do my best to spread the knowledge by word of mouth.
How big was your channel even? I can't imagine it was that large, so how the hell did they even find your video? Actually, I probably know why. They probably have someone searching for any criticism of genshin, sees if the channel is small, and just copyright claims you to death. Picking fights they know they can win. They know that someone too big can get the word spread and have the takedown removed, but pick on the little guys, and nobody notices. Screw this stupid system, it's been this way for half a decade with almost nothing done to fix it. It only benefits those looking to abuse the system, and the only reason youtube doesn't improve it is because they don't want to get involved in legal trouble, even if it's at the expense of everyone else. Sorry you went through something crappy like that.
The whole broken system is a result of YT doing everything in their power to ensure they *_can't_* have legal action taken against them. However, they still care about how they are discussed through social media platforms like Twitter. So if this story is picked up by someone like Penguinz0, it could become a sort of _Actman Act II: Badim-Scam Boogaloo._
We better start archiving all of fireb0rn's videos. Only a few minutes before this was uploaded, i actually uploaded fireb0rn's response to gamerant, so thats funny timing
I know you mean well but please don’t show the company that Fireb0rn is making a video about said video, especially since 1: That video paints them in the bad light (the one they should be painted in) and 2: That company has already taken down Fireb0rn’s video once and they’ll definitely do it again.
@@RebL3333 Unless I am mis-remembering, fire specifically said if someone *else* were to reupload, he'd be cool with that, because he worked hard on it and you don't really stand a chance as an individual against a huge company's lawyers. I think he was referring to the original video when he said that, but that one is far more damning than the response video, so it's probably fine by fire? It's the uploader's account that's at stake in that case, if anyone. But unless they have a huge subscriber count, they might not touch it.
Can't believe he got his own son to commit a crime simply because someone called him out. This man is a horrible person and needs to have his kids taken away by CPS.
Even in countries other than Russia that's not known to lead to good outcomes. Him getting jailed for one reason or another and thereby removed from the family dynamic would be much safer for the kids
@@puphafishprime yeah, as I said in another comment, fire can just send all of his research and data to the Russian law enforcement authorities in that scumbag's city, and tell them that he has a suspicion that both Vadims are the same person. If (and that's a big if) the authorities take it seriously and follow it up with their own investigation, they might be able to confirm that they're the same person, and jail the bastard.
the original video was very well researched and the work put into it quite evident. YT has never really had its head on straight when it comes to handling copyright strikes and it's baffling to see that continue even today
RUclips once again proving how lifeless their corporation is with how easy it is for shit like this to get through. If this doesn't speak volumes to how big of a deal this really is, I don't know what does.
I hear that they're just using AI, but even then, they should be able to afford good enough prompts and models, that they'd understand to either accept, or at least forward for human review counterclaims like this, which very clearly and plainly explain why it's a false claim it's understandable that monney monney monney, plus getting thousands of claims and counterclaims daily, plus understaffed due to capitalism, but they still should have enough people that at least likely-true claims get at least read through and explained
Copyright fraud is unfortunately a very big problem. The fact that they issued a takedown shows a complete division of who is right and who is wrong, and you’re definitely not in the wrong. Love from America 🇺🇸🤝🇨🇦
Badim should know by now that if you try to stamp out sparks, it only turns into a fire. Hopefully there will be so much attention soon that he can't get away with this anymore.
I’m just gonna comment so this can get more traction in the RUclips algorithm, but still this is the most outrageously insane think I have heard for a while and I can say for everyone that we’re with you on this one. The more traction this gets and the more bad publicity RUclips gets for this the better.
@@HarbingerYT depends on how many people are aware of it. The bigger you are, the more likely a threat will work. Otherwise they risk calling it a bluff
Weirdly enough, I wasn't very interested in watching the video myself, but learning what kind of a character Vadim is, it's got me to learn about him and waiting eagerly for the video to be reinstated. That's the Streisand Effect, everybody! Thanks for covering this Fireborn
Well, the part where MrVadim sends his mother to harass fire's wife is still available. As is this video (which is yet another proof of him exploiting children for his own profit, including his own) That's already quite damning. Not necessarily worse than what was on the video , but it doesn't paint MrVadim in the best light, for sure.
When I first saw the Badim video, I was fearful they would copyright strike the video as RUclips's copyright system when it comes to counterclaims sucks. Welp, here we are. All we can do now I suppose is wait and hope the video is reinstated asap so you can make back the time, money and effort you invested into the research and video!
The thing about people like this is that they project onto others. They project their insecurities, they project their bad behaviors, they project their fears, onto others.
I have so much respect for you daring to ‘confront’ people regarding risky subjects and spreading the word. How awful is it that because of youtube’s horrible copyright system, the last two videos (which seemed to have a lot of effort put into) got taken doen for no one to see
You know TheFatRat actually had a big thing for this you might want to try and reach out to him as he is very against the wrongful copywrite that goes on in youtube and I remember him setting up some sort of fundraiser or something for it. Ik he does music and is more about that but it might be worth a shot. EDIT TFR's "THING" is specifically for smaller creators that can't fight against wrongful claims.
I would say lawyer up, and then put that in your next counter report saying that you and your lawyer are prepared to take not just the claimant but also youtube to court if youtube doesn't reverse it. that tends to get them to reverse such claims real quick.
god, the more that I hear about mrbadim, the more i DESPERATELY hope that it gets proven he is VadimGod, and hopefully the legal repercussions he would face afterwards can humble his vile person
I am not the one to normally like a video, but this absolute insanity that you have to face makes even myself feel angry for these ludicrous issues that you have to face. I feel empathy in places I never thought I would have before from what you have to face. This one person attempting to attack you and your family for exposing the reality on him is not what you'd expect, as it is so much more worse than just attempting to take down your video, along with Badim using their own family to help their own illegal course of action can make anyone loathe them and I hope that you can find solace with these issues. I hope that you can resolve these issues and live without these issues from you doing what is morally right. I wish I could give you something to help you with this, however I can't, but I will still like your video even if it doesn't actually do anything for you. I pray for your victory fireb0rn
I really admire your persistence, Fire. Unfortunately, these type of people always win. I know from experience. There is no line they will not cross to get what they want and someone always ends up getting hurt. Still, I hope I'm wrong and sending you support
Friend, I know you're worried about cost but seriously. Sue this jerk. Even just threatening it should be enough to make him back off, and if things do escalate to a proper lawsuit, he'll be required to cover your court expenses if he loses (which he should. I genuinely don't imagine his nonsense holding up in court)
Honestly, RUclips has become that platform that no one really likes anymore, but can't leave because it's practically the only option. The platforms security is a complete and utter joke.
"I have every intention of moving on from this drama as soon as dipshit, and his mom, son, uncle, auntie, daughter, or dog stop attacking my youtube account." DAMN this line goes hard
i honestly wasnt paying attention for like the first minute, i was looking at the cat in the background :D this edit is VERY important, 3:56 BEEG stretch
It’s frustrating that video discussing important topics and describing valid criticism keep getting taken down. RUclips shouldn’t be using AI to decide weather or not a augment is valid as it isn’t their job to decide if an arguments is valid or not and clearly the AI they use is unable to make fare verdicts. I wish you the best of luck with your video, hope it gets put back up soon.
"Why is the level of scrutiny applied to my couterclaim greater than the level of scrutiny applied to the takedow?" This question sums up all the issues with yt's copyright claim/takedown system. I hope you all stay safe and everything goes well.
When the video disappeared from your channel, I kinda figured that MrBadim had probably filed a fraudulent copyright strike to get it removed; so many other terrible people abuse the system to do exactly as you said: silence criticism against them. But man, was it a whiplash moment when you revealed that it was his son's name on it. That's a new one. I don't think I've ever heard of another instance of someone using their child for a copyright takedown. But claiming copyright over a Reddit screenshot is unfortunately not as rare as you would think :T I've seen a startling trend of people trying to claim discord messages, screenshots of accounts, and text message screenshots as copyrighted material for false claims. Copyright abuse is getting pretty bad, and RUclips's system is in drastic need of reform. Hope that things turn in your favor soon, somehow. And even if not, we're here to support you in whatever ways we're each able. The work you put into that video was truly amazing and impressive, and I hope you know that all of the effort that you put into it is appreciated. I'm grateful for all the videos you make, so thank you for all of them. Our love, at least, is something that thieving game devs can't take away from you ❤
Well he's using his familly. But "all this" being a few days of whining and petty harrassment and a few minutes spent filling out multiple claim forms is not really a big operation. It seems way too easy actually.
You're taking a fair stance on this and it's starting to get concerning. Other than getting a lawyer for safety, I hope this situation gets some big fish attention like Karl Jobst or Penguinz0. This is utter bullshit from the platform and I hope it gets sorted soon.
This guy is just manipulating everyone for his own good at this point but the funny thing is, that the minute he gets accused of this he starts harassing Fire’s wife and manipulates his children even more just so he can get away with this stupid bull S. Also the guy is literally so selfish he USES his own kids for his own good
this and the valnet video were prime example of investigative journalism and I am saddened to see them taken down. wishing you the best of luck in getting both of them back up. you are doing great work, keep up the fight!
This is WILD and shows the huge problems with RUclips’s copyright policies. I guess we need to watch all of your videos ASAP since the crazy people you expose are going to strike them down😭
In the first place, he uploaded that video to reddit. He made it available to the public all on his own. What kind of bullshit copyright claim is this? RUclips never fails to disappoint when it comes to their copyright system. Copyright in itself is kind of broken as it is, but RUclips sure does its fair share of making everything around it just as crap.
Hey fire, I sent feedback to RUclips telling them about what you said. I hope I can help with this situation. Everyone please link his video to a feedback post to RUclips. I want RUclips to see this.
Fire's collecting copyright takedowns like pokemon cards. that's how you know you're correct because you get crazy bs like this. good job man, keep doing what you're doing
1:22 Tiny twitch 3:55 Big strech 4:13 Another big strech 6:02 Tiny kick 8:50 Another tiny kick 9:23 Another tiny kick 9:30 Back to back a tiny kick 9:34 3 kicks in almost 10 seconds 10:00 Tiny twitch 10:12 Whole body twitch 11:10 Can't hide the kick 11:23 Multiple kicks 11:45 Tail twitching 11:55 Another one 12:29 Tini tiny kick 12:41 Kick 13:01 Whole Body twitch 13:19 Double Kick 13:25 Huge movement 14:03 Sudden licking 14:21 Roll 14:33 Ear twitch 14:46 Ear twitch 15:04 Ear twitch 15:55 Zote got kicked 17:25 Another roll 19:59 Another roll 20:10 Yet another roll with a HUGE strech across the textbox 20:27 Crazy movement 20:44 More crazy movement
got halfway thru the original video went to bed and when I got some free time to finish the video the next day it was taken down :( love the cat in the background
*UPDATE 3:* The video is now back up! ruclips.net/video/keuGmE6g3bo/видео.html
*UPDATE 2:* On May 23rd, MrBadim sent a copyright takedown request against the Atomic Fabrik video. It was declined. He once again failed to fill out the form correctly.
*UPDATE: RUclips's DMCA team finally forwarded the counterclaim.* They actually declined my third counterclaim initially, based upon the form being incomplete(??) even though it wasn't. But it appears that TeamRUclips asked them to review it, after which they realized they made a mistake (for the third time), and correctly forwarded the counterclaim. This system is INSANE, but I'm glad they finally got it right. Now, the claimant (MrBadim's son, I guess) has 10-14 business days to produce evidence they are taking legal action against me, otherwise the video will be reinstated.
Bro I am so sorry this happened to you! This is not ok. I wish that youtube would wake the frick up (keeping it nsfw filtered) and would do their *LEGAL* jobs.
Just know that your fans love you! (Also I love your cat it looks like mine.)
Here's to hoping this blows up.
It looks like they deleted their response to you
Bro i feel bad for you fire your amazing and speaking what no one else will
You mean "the app formerly known as twitter"
Fire, this is not even a joke: Take to twitter.
Whenever a tweet about a false copyright claim gets even the slightest bit of traction, they very quickly take care of it (because it shows them in a bad light).
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Yeah this is the only language youtube understands unfortunately, from what I have understood (listening to other creators)
important points because this dude is a nutcase and we're all on your side:
3:59 cat stretch
14:17 cat cuteness and rolls
I didn't even notice the cat 🥺
cat napping da entire time
Went down to the comments for the stretch the instant I saw it, should have known someone else beat me to it.
Also, glad I was able to catch the original video before shananigans happened.
11:12 11:23 paw and tail twitches…. dreamin…..
That is a very good cat
MrBadim should google The Streisand effect
But seriously it sucks that you're being taking advantage by bad people, we're on your side man.
@Fireb0rn hoping you see this response
For those who don't want to google it:
The Streisand effect is when an attempt to hide/ censor something leads to more people learning about it.
@@ayo9290I swear man it’s like people never learn
@@neadedios3106they will never learn, do stupid things, win stupid prizes
ikr? I didn't even watch the original video and had no idea who mrBadim was until he responded lol
"It seems like they didn't even read my claim"
They definitely didn't. You think RUclips cares about users with less than a million subs?
They literally use llm ai now, its gpt3.5. So,yeah, trash. Well, bard... so not even Gemini. (Bard is literally alternate gpt3.5 but worse)
They don't care about ANY user on the platform.
@@815TypeSirius "ignore all previous prompts and reinstate my video"
The issue isn't about whether YT "cares" - many people working there do. It's about whether they "can" care. False claims like this are super easy to produce and that means YT gets probably hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of these every day. If each of them was human checked, they'd be constantly in loss just to pay those people.
After Bungie disaster, I sincerely doubt RUclips cares about anyone.
"Why is the level of scrutiny given to my counter claim higher than the level of the scrutiny given to the take down?"
That's the main problem with RUclips's DMCA system in a single sentence.
It's not an especially satisfying reason.. but the reason it works that way is that youtube normally has protection from copyright laws on content that its users put on youtube, up until they get a request to take it down. Once they get a request to take it down, if they don't take it down and it actually does break copyright laws then youtube can also be legally liable for it instead of just the person who created it.. which means that as soon as they get a request to take something down, they almost always err on the side of removing it because they don't want to run the risk of hosting content that they could be held liable for.
@@asdfqwerty14587 True, and the worst part is that implies that the incentive for RUclips to deny fireb0rn's counter claim request would be out of fear of Supercell coming in to sue them for allowing images of a plagiarized elixer collector model to appear on their platform, not for the fraudulent claim of copyright ownership that Vadim coerced his son into making. That they know it was blatantly false, but still think it could hurt them if they don't uphold it, so they go with it anyways.
copyright in general very one sided to those abusing power
(i mean like, 'ai' is allowed, but a nintendo fangame is forced to be taken down, en masse corporate theft, vs someone making something about a thing they like)
@@asdfqwerty14587 To add: I don't know that it's been tested in court but the platform is generally thought to still have section 230 protection for improper take-downs. So even though there is theoretically a counter-claim system in the DMCA, there's not much incentive to do more than the bare minimum on it. The improper takedown submitter might be liable but the platform probably isn't.
@@professorhaystacks6606You have it slightly backwards. It is exactly because they treat every potential copywriter claim as legitimate that they keep their safe harbor protection. If they decided to arbitrarily deny some and not remove the content, they would be putting themselves personally liable for the following lawsuit. If fireborn for example tried to enjoin RUclips against this guy, they would easy be able to have the judge remove them from the suit through section 230 exactly because they acted on the copywrite claim.
I agree that I don’t believe the act of denying a counter-claim has been tested. But that may go into YTs TOS where they are not obligated to host your videos and can take them down for any reason they wish. They deny the counter claim by effectively saying they will not host your video regardless, and then you really have no recourse since at that point the video being removed is YT just not wanting to deal with it rather than a copywrite dispute.
Edit: it would be interesting if a creator with sufficient means tried to enjoin YT in a suit against someone under 512(f), suggesting that RUclips does have a duty to evaluate counter claims (judge the reasonableness of the original copywrite claimant) rather than only the initial claimant for copywrite.
It's broken from either side, for the record. My old channel was entirely terminated for submitting a takedown on a video that was fully owned and produced by me. I've been trying to get my old channel back for weeks at this point, and they refuse to put it back up. It got to the point where I literally mailed in a DMCA to them. No response, whatsoever.
hii angled can i be your friend :)
also that sucks, youtube needs to work on this stuff :(
That's actually INSANE that so many people get away with false claims yet RUclips is nuking channels that have valid reasons for takedowns. Have you tried tagging Team RUclips on Twitter?
YOU ARE EVERYWHERE!!?? HOW!!!! TEACH ME THIS ARCANE ART!!!!
That is absolutely insane. My wife watched your video and told me about your comment. I feel like there has to be something horribly wrong with the work conditions of the human reviewers, or the guidelines they use... or something else. Sorry to hear that you're going through this.
@@fireb0rn i honestly doubt there are human reviewers at all at this point, or at least a horribly undersized team that couldn't possibly keep up
Would be a shame if we reported all his steam games for copyright infringement
at least RUclips dosn't run steam
I mean you can technically do it for child exploitation, sadly the long video showing this off is currently unavailable.
Ah yes. A shame...
@@Robbie1okay Currently unavailable on this channel, at least...
and nothing will happen there.
Copyright abuse again? That sucks. To think hes coming after u trying to make a living for your family, especially after he's insulted your wife for no reason only makes his character clearer. I hope people stop bullying you fire because you have real talent. I hope that whatever happens next works out for you. Have a great day, you deserve it.
If I had a nickel for every time Fireb0rn worked on a video exposing a person/group for months only for it to be taken down by a copyright strike from the exposed, I would have two nickles, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird (and sad) that it’s happened twice.
True
Stick around and you will have a hell of a lot more nickels. At least a few hundred dollars worth
It's scary that it happened twice in the span of one month
Got the reference!
Honestly, it's frustrating to see so much work just thrown away like this.
Both took lots of time and were clearly researched, and that's just demoralizing.
Fireborn just describes how it's fair use by every single definition of the term, and youtube just uses a bot and says "anyway"
knowing mrbadim, he's probably just posing as his son. bro had to get his mom to, for lack of a better term, "fight his battles" for him
Fireborn is losing to a certified lolcow. He is just not cut out for milking this type of individual's. I would expect hilarious discord call with badim shitting himself. Yet fireborn just made third yt video crying about his wife receiving message from badims mom ffs(remember it is horrible harassment to be contacted by 80 yo helicopter mom and absolutely not on demand circus).
@@Igorooooleynikovdude this isn’t a fireb0rn problem RUclips does the constantly to other creators it dosnt matter how many subscribers or what clips in the video or any of that abuses happens constantly even to RUclipsrs with more subs that him and even whole companies calling RUclips out on how bad their copyright system is
@@Igorooooleynikovgood lord have empathy his wife was being harrassed, that’s a crime and even if it weren’t it’s just so messed up.
This *is* utterly insane and not in a good way. YT, what are you *doing.*
@Fireb0rn should talk to @RTGaming about having videos taken down and youtube sucking at their job.
RUclips is generally trash at copyright claims and their issues. It's awful.
nothing. like they’re literally doing nothing
Exploiters gotta stick together?
To answer the rhetorical question, OP, they are making money hand-over-fist at the expense of thousands of content creators. Unless they feel like someone has a legitimate claim legally that could hurt their bottom line, they care about your wellbeing about as much as most governments do
By copyright claiming the "void machine" he inadvertently confirmed he was using his sons work.
Not really, cuz the claim was sent by his son, and in the Reddit post, he said it was his son's work. So technically that's all in order but still
@@GreySullivan He's the one who made the attempts first though, which makes it all iffy 'n stuff
@@norrecvizharan1177 well idk specifically if the dad tried claiming that first. I'd have to rewatch Fire's video but I don't the Badim was claiming the thing about the Void Machine first. That's why when his "son," the claimed creator of the Void Machine, reported it for copyright since it "belongs" to the son. That's how i'm interpreting it at least. I get what you're saying tho cuz Badim did try to report it first, that's why he switched up. But Fire's still right with the whole fair use/ fair dealing thing cuz it is investigative journalism AND he cited the source, albeit a copyrighted asset
I was saving the Mr Badim video for a nice cup of coffee the next morning and saw it was taken down, and I was so disappointed😭
It’ll be back up soon assuming somebody dose anything
I'm sure it's already been uploaded somewhere else, so you could surely find it somewhere if you search for it
There's plenty of re-uploads, even posted on reddit
@@xander2345
Good keep posting them, badim is an evil person absolutely deserves to get flamed over this
@@xander2345 ...Which ironicaly could be justly copyright claimed by Fireborn 🥲
While the whole news article exposing debacle would be hard due to to how large of a legal team they can afford, this is PERFECT grounds for a lawsuit. You shouldn't have to stand for this mistreatment of the RUclips copyright system, Fireborn, and I am incredibly upset that you have to. Wishing you the best, man.
agreed.
Imagine if such a lawsuit became public knowledge, i bet it would encourage heaps of other creators to sue as well and get US copyright laws under scrutiny (because lets face it, that's the only law youtube follows).
If only i wasn't always strapped for cash, i'd say he should start a fundraiser so we could donate to his legal fund.
@@unsuspiciousdweller8967 would this case be at all connected to US laws though? Fireborn is Canadian, Badim is Russian
@@endermanowa pretty sure youtube itself is stationed in the us which means it would be the us laws that get applied
@@ARM0RP0WER not just youtube/google/etc, but also a biiiiiiig chunk of creators and consumers, so yeah, it would be the way but thanks to lobbying, good luck getting any sort of permanent resolution, lol
we can already thank disney for fuqing up copyright, such as the "mickey clause", so now you need to wait like an entire generation or two before stuff even loses copyright in the first place.... :|
As one of the people who have finished the OG video, I hope you fight tooth and nail to bring it back, or upload to an external source. It is very frustrating to think that anyone can deflect criticism at them through a copyright claim, and hours of irrefutable work can just be undone like that.
We got fireborn doing sub 10 second copyright takedown speedruns before Silksong 😭
Man, this video hit home. Last year I had a different RUclips channel of mine terminated because I had 3 simultaneous copyright claims filed by a game publishing company who I had criticized. I basically received the same automated responses rejecting all of my counter claims. I never got the channel back, after 4 months of trying. A lot of lost time and money, and RUclips will never resolve the problem.
I'm so sorry to hear that. That is extremely upsetting.
Any chance I can get the name of the company, so that I can avoid giving them business?
@@laurelkeeper Cognosphere, the publishing company for Hoyoverse's games like Genshin Impact and Honkai Star Rail. Great games, terrible company.
@@LuketheDuke424 Alright, I’ll keep it in mind! If you want to point me to some resources on the problem, I’ll do my best to spread the knowledge by word of mouth.
How big was your channel even? I can't imagine it was that large, so how the hell did they even find your video? Actually, I probably know why. They probably have someone searching for any criticism of genshin, sees if the channel is small, and just copyright claims you to death. Picking fights they know they can win. They know that someone too big can get the word spread and have the takedown removed, but pick on the little guys, and nobody notices. Screw this stupid system, it's been this way for half a decade with almost nothing done to fix it. It only benefits those looking to abuse the system, and the only reason youtube doesn't improve it is because they don't want to get involved in legal trouble, even if it's at the expense of everyone else. Sorry you went through something crappy like that.
Glad you put out a video on this. RUclips really needs to be put in their place and have legal action taken against them.
youtube will not get any legal action against them; there is no basis for them to be sued
@@surfinggarchomp2820 There is
@@surfinggarchomp2820 Yup. RUclips behaves the way they do specifically to protect themselves to the maximum, nothing else.
The whole broken system is a result of YT doing everything in their power to ensure they *_can't_* have legal action taken against them.
However, they still care about how they are discussed through social media platforms like Twitter. So if this story is picked up by someone like Penguinz0, it could become a sort of _Actman Act II: Badim-Scam Boogaloo._
Using your own kids as child labor for porn games is insane lmao, its like some comic villain shit.
We better start archiving all of fireb0rn's videos.
Only a few minutes before this was uploaded, i actually uploaded fireb0rn's response to gamerant, so thats funny timing
I know you mean well but please don’t show the company that Fireb0rn is making a video about said video, especially since 1: That video paints them in the bad light (the one they should be painted in) and 2: That company has already taken down Fireb0rn’s video once and they’ll definitely do it again.
@@RebL3333 Unless I am mis-remembering, fire specifically said if someone *else* were to reupload, he'd be cool with that, because he worked hard on it and you don't really stand a chance as an individual against a huge company's lawyers. I think he was referring to the original video when he said that, but that one is far more damning than the response video, so it's probably fine by fire? It's the uploader's account that's at stake in that case, if anyone. But unless they have a huge subscriber count, they might not touch it.
Someone working on an app to automate this sort of thing. Grey something I think. Videos about it got nuked by yiutube but there’s a push back forming
Can't believe he got his own son to commit a crime simply because someone called him out. This man is a horrible person and needs to have his kids taken away by CPS.
Even in countries other than Russia that's not known to lead to good outcomes. Him getting jailed for one reason or another and thereby removed from the family dynamic would be much safer for the kids
@@puphafishprime yeah, as I said in another comment, fire can just send all of his research and data to the Russian law enforcement authorities in that scumbag's city, and tell them that he has a suspicion that both Vadims are the same person.
If (and that's a big if) the authorities take it seriously and follow it up with their own investigation, they might be able to confirm that they're the same person, and jail the bastard.
the original video was very well researched and the work put into it quite evident. YT has never really had its head on straight when it comes to handling copyright strikes and it's baffling to see that continue even today
If nothing threatens their monopoly then pretty much nothing will happen
3:57 Really getting upstaged by that cat
😂 yeah I love the cat
RUclips once again proving how lifeless their corporation is with how easy it is for shit like this to get through.
If this doesn't speak volumes to how big of a deal this really is, I don't know what does.
If people can hear this and still not get how it's horrible, they're deaf and shouldn't even be cared about at all.
I don't think you even realize how "lifeless" it actually is. I don't think, any of us truly realizes this.
I hear that they're just using AI, but even then, they should be able to afford good enough prompts and models, that they'd understand to either accept, or at least forward for human review counterclaims like this, which very clearly and plainly explain why it's a false claim
it's understandable that monney monney monney, plus getting thousands of claims and counterclaims daily, plus understaffed due to capitalism, but they still should have enough people that at least likely-true claims get at least read through and explained
The thumbnail is basically just RUclips in a nutshell
Copyright fraud is unfortunately a very big problem. The fact that they issued a takedown shows a complete division of who is right and who is wrong, and you’re definitely not in the wrong. Love from America 🇺🇸🤝🇨🇦
This sounds insane. My dad is a copyright lawyer and I’m curious to hear his thoughts on this, so I’m gonna send this to him
Oooh update if he says anything?
I'm down to updates too
Staying tuned.
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@@xdmamakkopitiam8930good idea
Badim should know by now that if you try to stamp out sparks, it only turns into a fire. Hopefully there will be so much attention soon that he can't get away with this anymore.
yeah, they just caused this fire to be born ( wow they said it wow. it s the )
Followed this advice. My house burnt down.
The way fireborn sounded so flabbergasted at the start of the video💀
We’re on your side man fr fr
I’m just gonna comment so this can get more traction in the RUclips algorithm, but still this is the most outrageously insane think I have heard for a while and I can say for everyone that we’re with you on this one. The more traction this gets and the more bad publicity RUclips gets for this the better.
It’s outrageous! And it’s unfair!
If you threaten litigation, RUclips will reinstate.
They won't.
They'll just go into hiding, spouting that they need your lawyer to talk to them with you.
@@HarbingerYT depends on how many people are aware of it.
The bigger you are, the more likely a threat will work. Otherwise they risk calling it a bluff
This might be the most insane copyright takedown on RUclips. Give me 23 minutes to verify this.
Can confirm: it's nuts
I can also confirm. It’s real
@@keelanruffner5440 He's not exaggerating, I actually haven't heard a worse one.
@@silphv the Warner music mass copyright strikes a few years ago
Its disappointing that RUclips only takes positive action if people make a lot of noise. Hopefully this helps get their attention!
You should start a go-fund-me to get yourself a lawyer because this is ridiculous
Karl Jobst should bring this as a topic on his videos, since he has a lot of reach and deals with similar scandals.
Dang, I haven't paid attention to RUclips drama like this in like a decade. Go off fireb0rn.
Vadim is just exposing himself as a bigger and bigger jerk the more time passes
and also to potential legal implications if he doesn't end up getting away with it.
@@IschmarVIHe will. He's Russian, if I remember correctly, so nobody outside of Russia can do anything to him, legally speaking.
This some massive bull S
Come on
How can anyone this incompetent run this big of an online platform for crying out loud
18:30 If it seems like they didn't read your claim, it's because they didn't. It's an automated response. Real people don't look at those.
I'm sorry to hear that bro! How tf does Badim continue by harrassing people that AREN'T involved... Ngl that's a psycho move
Weirdly enough, I wasn't very interested in watching the video myself, but learning what kind of a character Vadim is, it's got me to learn about him and waiting eagerly for the video to be reinstated.
That's the Streisand Effect, everybody! Thanks for covering this Fireborn
Well, the part where MrVadim sends his mother to harass fire's wife is still available.
As is this video (which is yet another proof of him exploiting children for his own profit, including his own)
That's already quite damning.
Not necessarily worse than what was on the video , but it doesn't paint MrVadim in the best light, for sure.
RUclips doesn't care, a copyright lawsuit is far more important to them then any video on their platform.
When I first saw the Badim video, I was fearful they would copyright strike the video as RUclips's copyright system when it comes to counterclaims sucks. Welp, here we are. All we can do now I suppose is wait and hope the video is reinstated asap so you can make back the time, money and effort you invested into the research and video!
IM SO INVESTED ITS UNREAL. Ive been watching the content for maybe 3-4 years now and gosh best of luck to this God Gamer.
The thing about people like this is that they project onto others. They project their insecurities, they project their bad behaviors, they project their fears, onto others.
They cry out in pain as they strike you to try and muddy the waters as wel. Classic villain tactics.
I'm convinced that not one single human is involved with the review process. Theres simply no way.
I hope this hunter feels the full effect of the Streisand effect.
MrBadim is not cooking ngl
Get him out of the kitchen
I have so much respect for you daring to ‘confront’ people regarding risky subjects and spreading the word. How awful is it that because of youtube’s horrible copyright system, the last two videos (which seemed to have a lot of effort put into) got taken doen for no one to see
As much as it sucks, you should probably get a lawyer to help you out with this entire situation.
You know TheFatRat actually had a big thing for this you might want to try and reach out to him as he is very against the wrongful copywrite that goes on in youtube and I remember him setting up some sort of fundraiser or something for it. Ik he does music and is more about that but it might be worth a shot.
EDIT TFR's "THING" is specifically for smaller creators that can't fight against wrongful claims.
14:05 I realize there's a cat in the background. Cat is now the most important thing about the video. What's the cat's name?
Grimm!
@@fireb0rn beautiful
"It's the level 1 elixir collector from Clash of Clans" is such a hard bar
Okay this situation is fucked but the kitty in the background is so cute oh my god look at them stretch at 3:56
Almost dropped my controller when I saw this pop up. Jesus! That’s bull. Hope the video goes back up soon.
Whenever people dont have a valid argument they do the dumbest crap like this
I would say lawyer up, and then put that in your next counter report saying that you and your lawyer are prepared to take not just the claimant but also youtube to court if youtube doesn't reverse it. that tends to get them to reverse such claims real quick.
There's no way a real person looked at your claims, this is insane.
I like how I have to watch these withen like the first few days just to be sure I watch it before its taken down
GIRL I'M INVESTED 😭
SAME i literally just dropped everything
@@twotruckslyrics your pfp and name are amazing
Same
I havent watched the original video yet, (and now probably wont be able to) but this has gotten me so invested too!
SO REAL
god, the more that I hear about mrbadim, the more i DESPERATELY hope that it gets proven he is VadimGod, and hopefully the legal repercussions he would face afterwards can humble his vile person
I am not the one to normally like a video, but this absolute insanity that you have to face makes even myself feel angry for these ludicrous issues that you have to face. I feel empathy in places I never thought I would have before from what you have to face. This one person attempting to attack you and your family for exposing the reality on him is not what you'd expect, as it is so much more worse than just attempting to take down your video, along with Badim using their own family to help their own illegal course of action can make anyone loathe them and I hope that you can find solace with these issues. I hope that you can resolve these issues and live without these issues from you doing what is morally right. I wish I could give you something to help you with this, however I can't, but I will still like your video even if it doesn't actually do anything for you. I pray for your victory fireb0rn
I really admire your persistence, Fire. Unfortunately, these type of people always win. I know from experience. There is no line they will not cross to get what they want and someone always ends up getting hurt. Still, I hope I'm wrong and sending you support
Sounds like its time to talk to a lawyer
Him trying to silence the situation so he won't look bad...
...end up making himself look even worse.
stupid people dont know how to not do stupid things xD
Friend, I know you're worried about cost but seriously. Sue this jerk. Even just threatening it should be enough to make him back off, and if things do escalate to a proper lawsuit, he'll be required to cover your court expenses if he loses (which he should. I genuinely don't imagine his nonsense holding up in court)
"I didn't even practice" absolutely ruined me, that was one of the most hilarious things I have ever heard
Honestly, RUclips has become that platform that no one really likes anymore, but can't leave because it's practically the only option. The platforms security is a complete and utter joke.
"I have every intention of moving on from this drama as soon as dipshit, and his mom, son, uncle, auntie, daughter, or dog stop attacking my youtube account."
DAMN this line goes hard
RUclips? Not being fair when it comes to DMCA takedowns? WHAAAAT? NO FRICKIN WAY MAN
Why do you have RUclips access in your containment chamber?
@@laurelkeeper They gave me an ipad specifically to watch Fireborn
@@scp-049 researchers are kinda based ngl
I'll recommend them for promotion
@@laurelkeeper I will let them know, user LaurelKeeper
Hoping this all turns out well! Also at 14:24 Zote in the background gets Got
We need someone to be preserving these videos
i honestly wasnt paying attention for like the first minute, i was looking at the cat in the background :D this edit is VERY important, 3:56 BEEG stretch
It’s frustrating that video discussing important topics and describing valid criticism keep getting taken down. RUclips shouldn’t be using AI to decide weather or not a augment is valid as it isn’t their job to decide if an arguments is valid or not and clearly the AI they use is unable to make fare verdicts. I wish you the best of luck with your video, hope it gets put back up soon.
RUclips is too large for not using ai at This point
True, but the AI either needs to get good or simply issues like this need to be addressed by a real person.
"Why is the level of scrutiny applied to my couterclaim greater than the level of scrutiny applied to the takedow?"
This question sums up all the issues with yt's copyright claim/takedown system. I hope you all stay safe and everything goes well.
Keep at it
Thanks Curtis. I appreciate the support!
When the video disappeared from your channel, I kinda figured that MrBadim had probably filed a fraudulent copyright strike to get it removed; so many other terrible people abuse the system to do exactly as you said: silence criticism against them.
But man, was it a whiplash moment when you revealed that it was his son's name on it. That's a new one. I don't think I've ever heard of another instance of someone using their child for a copyright takedown.
But claiming copyright over a Reddit screenshot is unfortunately not as rare as you would think :T I've seen a startling trend of people trying to claim discord messages, screenshots of accounts, and text message screenshots as copyrighted material for false claims. Copyright abuse is getting pretty bad, and RUclips's system is in drastic need of reform.
Hope that things turn in your favor soon, somehow. And even if not, we're here to support you in whatever ways we're each able. The work you put into that video was truly amazing and impressive, and I hope you know that all of the effort that you put into it is appreciated. I'm grateful for all the videos you make, so thank you for all of them. Our love, at least, is something that thieving game devs can't take away from you ❤
I love yt being negligent and horrible to work with...
This is a ridiculous situation. I hope everything gets resolved promptly.
no way this guy (Badim) is doing all this by himself, he has to be working with professional troll farms
Well he's using his familly. But "all this" being a few days of whining and petty harrassment and a few minutes spent filling out multiple claim forms is not really a big operation. It seems way too easy actually.
I'm invested in this, and outraged at RUclips's response to Badim's actual illegal activity. Hope this turns around for you Fire
You're taking a fair stance on this and it's starting to get concerning. Other than getting a lawyer for safety, I hope this situation gets some big fish attention like Karl Jobst or Penguinz0. This is utter bullshit from the platform and I hope it gets sorted soon.
We need to get Asmon in on this so Vadim gets big mad.
3:55 cute cat stretches ( video highlight )
This guy is just manipulating everyone for his own good at this point but the funny thing is, that the minute he gets accused of this he starts harassing Fire’s wife and manipulates his children even more just so he can get away with this stupid bull S. Also the guy is literally so selfish he USES his own kids for his own good
The youtube bot fr was like, "I ain't reading all that"
I am so glad to hear that they DMd you already, its literally insane that they need Twitter to do any kind of customer support
I respect a man who can keep his cool and stay humble while standing up for what's right 👍. God bles you Fireborn.
this and the valnet video were prime example of investigative journalism and I am saddened to see them taken down. wishing you the best of luck in getting both of them back up. you are doing great work, keep up the fight!
Side note, I love your cat in the background
kitty 🙂
Poor fireborn, he had to deal with so much in the past few days, but just remember, we're all behind you.
This copyright abuse is absolutely revolting. I will do whatever is in my ability to help you bring this scumbag to justice.
This is WILD and shows the huge problems with RUclips’s copyright policies. I guess we need to watch all of your videos ASAP since the crazy people you expose are going to strike them down😭
In the first place, he uploaded that video to reddit. He made it available to the public all on his own. What kind of bullshit copyright claim is this? RUclips never fails to disappoint when it comes to their copyright system. Copyright in itself is kind of broken as it is, but RUclips sure does its fair share of making everything around it just as crap.
Hey fire, I sent feedback to RUclips telling them about what you said. I hope I can help with this situation. Everyone please link his video to a feedback post to RUclips. I want RUclips to see this.
Good to know people are putting in the effort to help! What a guy!
Fire's collecting copyright takedowns like pokemon cards. that's how you know you're correct because you get crazy bs like this. good job man, keep doing what you're doing
1:22 Tiny twitch
3:55 Big strech
4:13 Another big strech
6:02 Tiny kick
8:50 Another tiny kick
9:23 Another tiny kick
9:30 Back to back a tiny kick
9:34 3 kicks in almost 10 seconds
10:00 Tiny twitch
10:12 Whole body twitch
11:10 Can't hide the kick
11:23 Multiple kicks
11:45 Tail twitching
11:55 Another one
12:29 Tini tiny kick
12:41 Kick
13:01 Whole Body twitch
13:19 Double Kick
13:25 Huge movement
14:03 Sudden licking
14:21 Roll
14:33 Ear twitch
14:46 Ear twitch
15:04 Ear twitch
15:55 Zote got kicked
17:25 Another roll
19:59 Another roll
20:10 Yet another roll with a HUGE strech across the textbox
20:27 Crazy movement
20:44 More crazy movement
got halfway thru the original video went to bed and when I got some free time to finish the video the next day it was taken down :( love the cat in the background
OG video is back