Isengard Vs The Last Alliance ~ Middle Earth SBG Battle Report!
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- We are back with the first game of round 2 of the Conquest Champions Battle Report League. We have my Last Alliance army going up against the Assault on Helms Deep Legendary Legion!
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Amazing game, I was cheering for Isengard cause I love them but seeing Gil galad go full murder mode was something incredible. Cant wait for mode!
Love your content. One of the reasons i found myself back into me:sbg after nearly 15 years. Even more since i like good competitive aspect and a high diversity in army types.
But i would like to offer some constructive critism after binching through nearly all videos: it would be a major improvement if your videos would keep an consistent voice/sounds level. It's changing very often switching between clear voice, lower mumbling and rolling dice through the viewers head. :) Not sure if a better micro is needed , might just be enough to equilize the audio track.
Anyway , keep up the great work! Looking forward to see more of your content. And sorry for my bad english, greetings from germany!
Great game! Isengard really had no answer to Gilgalad, he’s just such a monster :)
He is an absolute beast when he gets going like this
Ballista was the only answer but didn't wounded him. Game was lost by Isengard turn 1 when the shaman lost his might for nothing, the leader captain died with 2 might and a lot of Uruk-hai died. Unfortunately really bad play hero play from the Isengard Player
Jesus, gettin ballistered into a tree cant be fun. Love seeing last alliance performing.
Its not great. I have had the misfortune of playing against Will's army a few times off camera and have been hit my several balista shots
Great video as ever! I think the ballista should have definitely shot the troops closing in on the defended objective instead of Gil Galad, had that worked gil galad would keep chopping and there may have been more VPs for the uruks. Also you didn't roll the "knocked flying"result for Gil Galad... that S3 hit could have wounded him :P
That setup. Full blowout turn one. 😁
Loved it well played Jacob
This series needs to return! 👍😎
This series has returned for season 2 check out the 3 most recent videos!
Gil-galad showing why he's such an amazing hero.
Last Alliance is the only way for Rivendell to actually have the Strength on its troops that it so desperately needs.
Rivendell has a lot of heroes that pack a massive punch but these two armies go together so well
@@ConquestCreations it's not so much the heroes it's the troops. The High Elf Warriors just don't have the Strength or the Defence to really get the work done, and high Fight only takes you so far.
So S4 Numenor Warriors actually makes that high Fight relevant.
But yes the heroes of Rivendell are great. The troops need something in my opinion.
Well done. Looking forward to seeing the finals
On work break. Thanks for the content!
Beautiful painted elves.
Thanks for the comment mate
great battle, will you make some vieods for new people in the hobby, your how to start is great and you have great battle reports
Received my order of figures from conquest creations, they're incredible I love them. I'm extremely glad I chose them instead of more games workshop
Problem is models like that will put GW out of business and new updates won't come out :(
@@Mma-Guy I highly doubt this will hurt games workshop of all places. Thats like saying I picked up my soda from the gas station instead of Walmart one time and it put Walmart out of business lol
@@dupeesfashionconsultant4204 it will hurt games workshop in terms of Middle Earth sbg goes. It struggles already 👍 but anyways
Mentioning Conquest creations is all well and good, but you have almost nothing in stock. Are you going to be printing any more? Thanks
Great content as always
Congrats 8k subs!
Thanks mate, I have got big plans for when I hit 10!
These videos are so well made
Great content!
The only flaw is seeing how unfun a game can turn when one side has no answer to a model that just wins the game by itself.
That was a massacre. I think that The battle was already decided in the deployment phase, with the 2 heroes being so exposed at the mercy of a roll-off
The next battle will be interesting . Dunland has the hedge, but 3 chariots can butcher through the lines.
Yeah the game was basically finished turn 1 with so many mistakes from the Uruk Hai Player.
You were lucky to avoid the two other best players who are on the other side of the tournament, but that's how competition goes sometimes.... :)
Notice than when you kill a banner with a charge from cavalry, the banner cannot be given to another soldier, because of being prone. Same thing with a death from an Istari Blast, be killed by a Hurl directly or indirectly, or being killed by a Monstrous charge. Look for it in the erratas
@@ar-mando1240 Are you sure about the cavalry tho? The rule states that a prone model cannot TAKE a banner, but doesn't say anything about PASSING it if you are prone. So if a cavalry model charges a model with a banner that is in base contact with a friend (not engaged by the cavalry model) and the banner bearer dies I think the banner can be passed. If you have found a rule stating differently would you mind pointing me there? (I still agree with sorcerous blast and hurl since in that case also the other model is prone)
@@carlopulcini9585 it's on the designer's commentary notes to MESBG rules manual, page 5:
"Can models pass on a banner in any other situation than being slain or fleeing the board, (e.g, being knocked prone) ??
Answer: No"
So it's the model with the banner that cannot die being prone if he wants to pass it to another model. So it includes cavalry charges and all the rest i've mentionned before.
@@ar-mando1240 "it's the model with the banner that cannot die being prone if he wants to pass it to another model"
this is the part I don't find in the rules. In the manual (page 89) you find
"A Warrior model carrying a banner who is slain may pass it on to a friendly Warrior model (but not to a Hero model), who is in base contact, not Prone, and is not Engaged in a Fight. Swap the models over if they are the same type of Warrior, or find a suitable banner-carrying substitute in your collection."
From my understanding, it is the RECEIVING model that cannot be prone, but it says nothing about PASSING it if you are prone. Wouldn't you agree?
@@carlopulcini9585 you ll find it in the erratas and designer's commentarys and notes, not in the basic manual
hey, when is easterlings vs dunland coming up? cant wait^^
Gil Galad is obviously a big hitter, but I feel like the Uruks could overwhelm the last alliance here
The problem comes from avoiding being anywhere near Gil galad with any hero's, blood and glory with Lord of the west and +1 to wound is intimidating, especially mounted. Plus isengard doesn't have any big hero's in this LL making him even more intimidating
Hey when's the next video
hi guys, a question. How were you able to charge Shaman with bowmen at 7:20, having started your move ahlway in the water. Wasn't your move reduced to 3"?
I challenge you to make a video making an army makes heavy use of black nunenoreans and morgul knights. Aka a mordor army with little to no orcs. Just evil humans (: how would you do it ?
Gil-Galad doing the Kill-Galad
Did Isengard take courage checks before the last turn? You didn't mention it, but could've changed the final score if that matters for the tournament. Cheers
Isengard only tests when 66% are removed as casualty
@@CapitanCorner ah yes, their army rule. I forgot about that. Thanks
hey jacob, great video.where'd ya pick up your terrain pieces? edit: also that velvet dice bowl? cheers mate
Not sure where the dice tray was from but the terrain was made by microforge minis (instagram.com/microforgeminis/?hl=en) He is a great commission artist I was just borrowing some of his stuff
Excellent game! I’ve watched a number of videos on this channel and noticed that the Isengard players don’t field trolls. I just started with the Assault on Helms Deep legendary legion and picked up pikes, warriors, demo teams, berserkers, ballistae, crossbows, and multiple trolls. Why are the trolls so rarely seen? Also, thoughts on arming them with spears vs swords?
Unfortunately, Isengard trolls are really bad ^^ their huge base makes them very hard to manoeuver plus they don't have might or fate. A good mounted hero can one shot the poor troll with a heroic strike :/ (also Isengard trolls are way too expensive. Imagine you can have 11 uruks with shield or pike for the same amount of points)
@@LeMaitredesDes thanks for the heads up! In the legendary legion, the trolls can take drums for free; that should add some utility, right? They are the only fight 7 unit in the Legion; even the captain is only 6, right? I have five trolls and was planning on running them all in a single game. Any thoughts on whether they should be split up and added to different warbands or putting them all into one? Are the swords better than shields?
@@irishjesus3927 the drum is not for free. It is written wrong and was changed to the normal 25p in the Errata
I wouldn't say that trolls are bad per say.
However they're just not really needed in isengard lists as you already have tanky units and fairly high strength across the board. So the role they fill can be done by cheaper units
Mordor lists you will see more trolls
@@hunsler1006 no in mordor you normaly have better Heros. You only see the Troll Capitan. I think the Isengard Troll is more intristing because he can support with his spear. Also the D8 is nice. But to be fair all Non Hero Trolls are pritty bad
Me wondering why this video is so short
Looks at the complete brutalization at 10:30
Ahhh that explains it XD, legit could not see the urks winning this game at all
The objective with the series is to have all the games around 25-35 minutes long so the length wont be an indicator of the result but that first turn was savage
@@ConquestCreations all good i understand great job as always (especially with the brutlization of the uruks )
@conquest creations Does GW not produce the Uruk hai demolition team anymore?
is the army a mix of GW and your own printed models? The flag and unique posed captain are really cool
Yeah exactly, all of the Numenorians the High Human models that I produce as well as the elf spearmen. The Elf Acrchers and Gil Galad (Converted from Eledan on horse) are the only GW miniatures
Still new to this game mechanics and rules, but how does Gil-galad move twice and fight twice? I can't seem to see any rule on this.
Gil Galad Called a Heroic combat. You declare it at the start of the combat phase and if you kill all the enemies that you are fighting against you may move and fight again. All heroes have access to this ability. It really helps increase your damage out put but can be risky becuase you can burn through all of your resources
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These are si wekk nade
0:30 , how did you paint the red capes (im looking to paint Numenorean spearmen as Rhudaur (Arnor warriors) as Arnor warriors stopped in AU )
And the High Elves ? (Are you using gw new paints or other ones?)
These capes weren't anything to fancy. They were just a dark red with a black wash then highlighted with a layer of the base coat then the base coat with a bit of light red mixed in
I use GW paints. The High Elves were done with Ghenna gold and highlighted with mithril silver
i just boughthe big box for is sangard ,... was wundering is saruman worth it :)
never played yet but i play age od sigmar and 40k cant wait for my 1st game vs dwarfs!
Yeah Saruman is awesome in game there are some battle reports with him on this channel and you can see how I went with him at a tournament in this video: ruclips.net/video/xoIsiWe6KZc/видео.html&ab_channel=ConquestCreations
who is your favourite
No worries mate I hope you enjoyed it
Where did you get the terrain?
This terrain was built by microforge minis (instagram.com/microforgeminis/?hl=en)
Gil Galad seems broken...
Thanks for the comment, Gil Galad is very strong but very far from broken. He did well in this match up because he was able to avoid the ballista but if he had been hit by it earlier he could have easily been killed!
How the Regular Elfs have 6fight?
nice. First time I see the chad Gil live up to his name! Its always lame transfixes that render him useless :(
Transfix is definetly a bummer. I am so glad that the Angmar army that had a heap of magic got eliminated. There is no magic left in the tournament
@@ConquestCreations yeah that's why you will win the Tournament :D Magic is the huge weakness of Gil Galad. There is no Magic around anymore, so nobody can stop Gil Galad 🤷♂️
How to win the game as the isengard player. Deploy deep, use your ballista to kill/pressure gil galad. Use the terrain to anchor a pike wall.
"yeah I'll put my whole army on the front line, with no chance to soften the opponent with my war machine first, then I'll spread out against a higher fight opponent. Not taking advantage of my banner or shaman (I'll just leave my shaman in charge range first turn anyway)"
Tournament veteran (allegedly) 2021.
If only everyone was as perfect as you
Playing like you recommend loses you Breakthrough. Isengard would've killed 2 or three models, considering how Will rolled for it, while the good forces would've taken full board control. Will obviously made big mistakes but this wasn't one of them.
@@JakobDrawitsch Strictly not true. Models who run off the board don't count towards broken. And Isengard has the greater numbers. You can afford to let a bunch of elves run off, especially in a format like this where the margin of victory doesn't matter. Shield in late combats to avoid quartering the elves and run off the board with pikemen.
This is ESPECIALLY effective if you've softened the smaller army up with shooting
I'd say leaving your general and shaman in turn 1 charge range (and spending a might at that) of a mounted gil galad elf army is the biggest possible mistake you can make in this game.
@@judgejudyandexecutioner.5223 Did you even see the game? Breakthrough isn't about running off the edges, it's about controlling the 5 objectives. The elves can easily hide from the worst ballista shots and control the battlefield while still representing a higher ranged threat with elves and human bows. Isengard had to charge either way, better sooner than later.
Ofcourse the hero positioning had to be better, it was a mistake, that the player himself pointed out after the game, so no reason to belabour that any longer.
@@MTGFreak- Ah, I got the scenario wrong! Hahaha. Was thinking of reconnoiter. No I stopped watching after the Isengard player threw the game turn 1.
I'd still deploy deep, and try to thin out the elves or murk gil galad before attempting to control the battlefield.
TBH I've just been fed up with the over all mediocrity served up. Jeremy was excellent in his game, and the easterling winner involved in the next game played well too so hopefully its onward and upward.