“Go to a tournament, you won’t get smashed by experienced players” Goes to tournament, Jacob SMASHES me. That clever tactic he employed of “let the other guy roll really badly”
If you end up loving it a new box set will be released this Christmas! The battle of Osgiliath! You could effortlessly recreate the battle of Pelennor fields with both of these box sets and see which army you prefer painting… Mordor, Rohan, or Gondor!
Yes I’ve been following that box set closely. In the end I decided to go with pelennor because I prefer Rohan and the leaders included but I’m excited to see what kind of price osgiliath is sold at. I might very well pick it up when it does come out as long as it’s not much more expensive.
I also bought that boxset to try and get back into it from when I was a kid, painted a bunch of the minis and now trying to wrap my head around how to play the game now!
I played a small match of 12 goblins vs 12 goblins with my 4 year old. I moved her pieces for her and she loved rolling the dice. She won. Her dice rolling skills are impeccable. Started getting my paints to paint up the batch I have and then I’ll buy some more Moria. Or I’ll buy a different faction to force my friends to play against me. Have to start somewhere.
Moria goblins are a good starter anyway. Easy to convert basic plasric guys into the more elite kinds, plus cheap troop coat gets you a lotta guys and points spare for heavy hitters. Just dont go balrog, 400points of goblins will always be better than one huge paperweight.
@@NoahTucker-kv5nq Nah man. Little girls are unexpextedly savage at wargames. My daughter absolutley destroyed me in a game of GF9s Tanks last year. Some of it was the dice gods, some of it being the wolf in sheeps clothing lol
Something I'll dispute is Tip #10: Go to tournaments. My brother actively avoids them because there are people who will bring armies that actively break the game. Angmar with spectres shutting down your army or certain legendary legions which effectively say "night fight for thee, but not for me" while raking arrows into him at the full 24" range. In both cases, he couldn't play the scenario, nor could he rush forward and kill things. He just had to sit there and let his opponent do...well...everything for the entire game (both of them with the aforementioned forces). What's more important is to try gauging your gaming community to see how competitive/casual they are and decide if that's the kind of crowd you want to game in. There may be some people who are WAAC, and - if that's your thing - then join in. There are also players who enjoy purely narrative game. Lastly there are some who want a balance between the two: a balanced game between two armies with certain themes that may not be the best in game terms, but gives them the warm fussies without being completely ineffective. Once you figure out who you want to play with, then start playing some games. The key thing to remember on this point is that, whether MESBG or anything else, people are different. They want different things. If the people around you want something different from you, that doesn't make them right and you wrong, or vice versa. Games Workshop no longer has a monopoly on the tabletop wargaming market like they did 10-20 years ago. Find the game and players you want to have fun with and go have fun!
I've been playing LOTR SBG since it first game out in 2001 (just before the first movie). I went to several tournments in that time and did not like them at all. There was always a mixof little kids and grown ups with one particular group (called the Heroes of the Third Age) who would build super tooled armies. One guy came to the battle with three Uruk-hai ballista's and lined them up on the only hill on the field, taking pot shots at my Gondorians as they tried to cross the no man's land. What made things worse was one of his mates wandered over during the game and started bragging about he was wasting his opponent (a kid who was less then 10 years old while he was easily late 30s or early 40s) I asked him if he'd finished his match and when he said no I asked him what he was doing over here then. His response was "chatting with my mate" so I said "chat to your mate later. Go finish your game".
If you go to a tournament, prepare to fight in a competitive event. Otherwise, look for a narrative event nearby. At least in 40k, clubs love running these. It lets everyone loosened the belt, and play for fun. In a ranked event, you're there to win, period. I've only seen individuals at tournaments that's mentioned in the video, taking subpar units because it's cool and fun. More often then not it's 80-90% power gaming. Which is fine, just be prepared for it.
Funny that you designed those buildings. I bought prints of them because they are really cool and very similar to Rohan-Buildings, and i found your video a few weeks after i bought them. World's small i guess. Great Video btw. :)
Following already for a long time, and seeing you grow (literally) too as the years pass. You guys are great, and great to see this community still strong.
Hello! I'm really enjoying your videos! Would you please be able to do one explaining all the special weapon rules; stabbing, shielding, etc. I have read the rulesbook but it's alot to remember, so a video presented by you would be perfect and so helpful, and I'm sure others would find it super useful too! :)
Love the video. Good ideas for new players... Just need to crack open the Rules book and learn the rules now. Hope you get to do another top 10 tips part 2 for beginners
Cheers, so true about the tournaments, I finally got to a Warmachine tournament at TTG, there were plenty of high level players, including interstate and players soon to head over seas for the world champs, sounded dauting, but no, they were all super cool, relaxed and had a great sense of humour. I can't wait to get to the next tournament.
Could you clarify more at 9:30? Why might the goblin warriors run away? Because the goblin king and troll are engaged in combat and can no longer call stand fast, so the goblin warriors would have to roll their own courage tests unless also charged and in combat for example? May have answered my own question...
Very cool video, would be interested in giving Middle earth a go if ever given the opportunity, I actually finally got to see it being played at my local game store quite recently and it looked like it was good fun.
I've just bought pelennor fields box plus a few extra units for rohon plus a balrog so when I'm done with my rohirrim army I can work with moria and,mordor
Last week the Embracer Group bought the rights for everything related to Lord of the Rings. There is a chance that after current contracts run out that GW won’t be able to keep the license for producing miniatures and games. The Embracer Group got their own games company in Atomic Mass Games. (SpikeyBits published an article on that topic two days ago.) Are you concerned Middle Earth will come to end not because GW wants to end it, but because they simply loose the rights to continue with it?
@@ElrohirGuitar I am quite surprised why none of the (admittedly few) Middle Earth focused RUclipsrs has picked this up. There is always this doom and gloom talk when it comes to Games Workshop and their systems but this time it is might not even them making the calls if the game is being continued. If Embracer gives the license to their own studio (Atomic Mass Games) then there is not much they can do about it.
I am not concerned at all firstly GW renewed a 10 year contract in 2017. Secondly even if it stopped getting official support the game and the community is so strong that it will keep going forever.
@@ConquestCreations Being strong, wasn’t that kind of what the Fantasy Battle community thought as well? 😆 But if a 10 year contract was signed 2017 we got the game for at least another 5 years. Do you got a source for that by any chance? Me and my friends did not find anything reliable.
I keep discovering new rules when I watch these videos. I didnt know that you kan make 2x strikes against trapped models! (And as a moria player, that makes all the difference)
The scenarios are fun in all but I like objectives that when strung out achieve a strategic goal like the liberation of HarIthilien, reconquest of Harondor or Umbar. Too bad GW LOTR does not have a better range of models for Arthedain, Cardolan, Rhudaur and Angmar.
Is there a way of finding out points and updated characteristics for models without buying the Armies of Middle Earth book. With the new box coming out in December, I worry that the current book will be outdated. I play AOS and rules change way too often.
new to the game. For a rider mounted on a flying mount (a ring wriath on fell beast), If there mount is killed is it just a normal roll on the thrown rider chart or since it was flying is there more?
Really want to get into this hobby but I dont know how I'd go about painting everything. How do most players tackle this part? Does everyone who buys these sets paint their sets or do you guys find a commission artist? Great video!
The first step is wanting to. The miniatures are beautiful, even though many are 20+years old. The sculpts are scaled and in many cases, have been signed off by the film design teams, actors, the Tolkein estate, and Games Workshop. That's in part why it takes so long for the models to go from concept to tabletop. Start with flat colours. Pick a scheme of 5 or 6 colours. Pick out the main parts (cloaks, armour, skin tones, weapons, mount, and maybe accessories like belts and pouches). A medium brush, small brush, and maybe a fine detail brush. Bang for your buck, Middle Earth is usually one of the best games to start with. You will get better with practice, and I do recommend people watching Sorastro. While he paints different gaming systems, his technique and the way to level up is great (start basic, add washes, add highlights, add terrain, etc). I hope you got into the game, and I hope you are enjoying it. This is one of the best tabletop games ever.
“Go to a tournament, you won’t get smashed by experienced players”
Goes to tournament, Jacob SMASHES me. That clever tactic he employed of “let the other guy roll really badly”
It's a plan that hasn't failed me yet
Haha
Just ordered the battle of pelennor fields box, I’m very excited to get started! Your videos really helped me to pull the trigger!
Welcome to the game! I promise you won't regret it
If you end up loving it a new box set will be released this Christmas! The battle of Osgiliath! You could effortlessly recreate the battle of Pelennor fields with both of these box sets and see which army you prefer painting… Mordor, Rohan, or Gondor!
Yes I’ve been following that box set closely. In the end I decided to go with pelennor because I prefer Rohan and the leaders included but I’m excited to see what kind of price osgiliath is sold at. I might very well pick it up when it does come out as long as it’s not much more expensive.
I also bought that boxset to try and get back into it from when I was a kid, painted a bunch of the minis and now trying to wrap my head around how to play the game now!
I played a small match of 12 goblins vs 12 goblins with my 4 year old. I moved her pieces for her and she loved rolling the dice. She won. Her dice rolling skills are impeccable. Started getting my paints to paint up the batch I have and then I’ll buy some more Moria. Or I’ll buy a different faction to force my friends to play against me. Have to start somewhere.
Moria goblins are a good starter anyway. Easy to convert basic plasric guys into the more elite kinds, plus cheap troop coat gets you a lotta guys and points spare for heavy hitters. Just dont go balrog, 400points of goblins will always be better than one huge paperweight.
I think u lost because of ur skill issue 😅😅
@@NoahTucker-kv5nq Nah man. Little girls are unexpextedly savage at wargames. My daughter absolutley destroyed me in a game of GF9s Tanks last year. Some of it was the dice gods, some of it being the wolf in sheeps clothing lol
Great tips. Would love to see breakdown of heroic actions and how to use them effectively, combo them etc...
Agreed!
Something I'll dispute is Tip #10: Go to tournaments. My brother actively avoids them because there are people who will bring armies that actively break the game. Angmar with spectres shutting down your army or certain legendary legions which effectively say "night fight for thee, but not for me" while raking arrows into him at the full 24" range. In both cases, he couldn't play the scenario, nor could he rush forward and kill things. He just had to sit there and let his opponent do...well...everything for the entire game (both of them with the aforementioned forces).
What's more important is to try gauging your gaming community to see how competitive/casual they are and decide if that's the kind of crowd you want to game in. There may be some people who are WAAC, and - if that's your thing - then join in. There are also players who enjoy purely narrative game. Lastly there are some who want a balance between the two: a balanced game between two armies with certain themes that may not be the best in game terms, but gives them the warm fussies without being completely ineffective. Once you figure out who you want to play with, then start playing some games. The key thing to remember on this point is that, whether MESBG or anything else, people are different. They want different things. If the people around you want something different from you, that doesn't make them right and you wrong, or vice versa. Games Workshop no longer has a monopoly on the tabletop wargaming market like they did 10-20 years ago. Find the game and players you want to have fun with and go have fun!
I've been playing LOTR SBG since it first game out in 2001 (just before the first movie). I went to several tournments in that time and did not like them at all. There was always a mixof little kids and grown ups with one particular group (called the Heroes of the Third Age) who would build super tooled armies. One guy came to the battle with three Uruk-hai ballista's and lined them up on the only hill on the field, taking pot shots at my Gondorians as they tried to cross the no man's land. What made things worse was one of his mates wandered over during the game and started bragging about he was wasting his opponent (a kid who was less then 10 years old while he was easily late 30s or early 40s) I asked him if he'd finished his match and when he said no I asked him what he was doing over here then. His response was "chatting with my mate" so I said "chat to your mate later. Go finish your game".
If you go to a tournament, prepare to fight in a competitive event. Otherwise, look for a narrative event nearby. At least in 40k, clubs love running these. It lets everyone loosened the belt, and play for fun. In a ranked event, you're there to win, period.
I've only seen individuals at tournaments that's mentioned in the video, taking subpar units because it's cool and fun. More often then not it's 80-90% power gaming. Which is fine, just be prepared for it.
I agree. Been in moddle earth since it started. Tournament was the worst experience ever. And it happened at warhanmer world too.
Funny that you designed those buildings.
I bought prints of them because they are really cool and very similar to Rohan-Buildings, and i found your video a few weeks after i bought them.
World's small i guess. Great Video btw. :)
Another excellent video. Really like your relaxed presenting style! Great terrain too!
Great tips! Thanks Jacob 👌
Following already for a long time, and seeing you grow (literally) too as the years pass. You guys are great, and great to see this community still strong.
Hello! I'm really enjoying your videos! Would you please be able to do one explaining all the special weapon rules; stabbing, shielding, etc. I have read the rulesbook but it's alot to remember, so a video presented by you would be perfect and so helpful, and I'm sure others would find it super useful too! :)
Keep them coming! I love these kinds of tips….
I just started playing, more videos please! This was super useful.
Thanks for the comment! There will be a part 2 in the future
Love the video. Good ideas for new players... Just need to crack open the Rules book and learn the rules now. Hope you get to do another top 10 tips part 2 for beginners
Thanks for the advice 👍 love your Top 10 videos and really looking forward to the rest of the conquest league
Cheers, so true about the tournaments, I finally got to a Warmachine tournament at TTG, there were plenty of high level players, including interstate and players soon to head over seas for the world champs, sounded dauting, but no, they were all super cool, relaxed and had a great sense of humour. I can't wait to get to the next tournament.
Legolas on the Wall 🤣 .Great Video learnd a lot of your Videos thx
Great video! Would love to see more like this!
Could you clarify more at 9:30? Why might the goblin warriors run away? Because the goblin king and troll are engaged in combat and can no longer call stand fast, so the goblin warriors would have to roll their own courage tests unless also charged and in combat for example? May have answered my own question...
Yeah you did, that's it exactly
Fantastic video as always. I have my first tournament next weekend and I am buzzing for it
Very cool video, would be interested in giving Middle earth a go if ever given the opportunity, I actually finally got to see it being played at my local game store quite recently and it looked like it was good fun.
I've just bought pelennor fields box plus a few extra units for rohon plus a balrog so when I'm done with my rohirrim army I can work with moria and,mordor
Last week the Embracer Group bought the rights for everything related to Lord of the Rings. There is a chance that after current contracts run out that GW won’t be able to keep the license for producing miniatures and games. The Embracer Group got their own games company in Atomic Mass Games. (SpikeyBits published an article on that topic two days ago.) Are you concerned Middle Earth will come to end not because GW wants to end it, but because they simply loose the rights to continue with it?
I was wondering the same thing.
@@ElrohirGuitar I am quite surprised why none of the (admittedly few) Middle Earth focused RUclipsrs has picked this up. There is always this doom and gloom talk when it comes to Games Workshop and their systems but this time it is might not even them making the calls if the game is being continued. If Embracer gives the license to their own studio (Atomic Mass Games) then there is not much they can do about it.
I am not concerned at all firstly GW renewed a 10 year contract in 2017.
Secondly even if it stopped getting official support the game and the community is so strong that it will keep going forever.
@@ConquestCreations Being strong, wasn’t that kind of what the Fantasy Battle community thought as well? 😆 But if a 10 year contract was signed 2017 we got the game for at least another 5 years. Do you got a source for that by any chance? Me and my friends did not find anything reliable.
Nice tips. Golden.
Great video! I just started playing with a friend of mine and can surely use some of your tips.
Was thinking a lot of people would benefit from more tutorials like this.
Maybe one for advanced rules and one for sieges?
Great content! Keep doing videos, follow by Italy!
From France its realy good thank you !! 🇨🇵🇨🇵
Would be awesome if you could do other kickstarters with middle earth themed sets. Pumped to get printing.
Thanks mate! I haven't started sculpting on the next set yet but I can't wait to
Nice vid. Why do the elves have more archers? Do the orcs have less than a third of their army allowed for shooters?
Does anyone know someone who can print the modems from the Kingdom of Saxonia sadly I don't own a 3d printer 😟🙃
Haha, some people must be so triggered by that hedge in the Dale vs Fangorn game!!
Great video, and good advice!
I keep discovering new rules when I watch these videos. I didnt know that you kan make 2x strikes against trapped models! (And as a moria player, that makes all the difference)
Starting to look like a young Aragorn with that haircut mate
The scenarios are fun in all but I like objectives that when strung out achieve a strategic goal like the liberation of HarIthilien, reconquest of Harondor or Umbar. Too bad GW LOTR does not have a better range of models for Arthedain, Cardolan, Rhudaur and Angmar.
Three orcs trapping Glorfindel is not at all lore accurate and I love it
@9:30 he can't charge him as it's overlapping the goblins 1 inch control zones no?
Great Video for beginners :)
Lovely terrain
Is there a way of finding out points and updated characteristics for models without buying the Armies of Middle Earth book. With the new box coming out in December, I worry that the current book will be outdated. I play AOS and rules change way too often.
Thought the background was a generated image. Just had my mind blown.
Great tips. Thanks!
new to the game. For a rider mounted on a flying mount (a ring wriath on fell beast), If there mount is killed is it just a normal roll on the thrown rider chart or since it was flying is there more?
I believe it's a normal roll on the thrown rider table
Really want to get into this hobby but I dont know how I'd go about painting everything. How do most players tackle this part? Does everyone who buys these sets paint their sets or do you guys find a commission artist?
Great video!
The first step is wanting to.
The miniatures are beautiful, even though many are 20+years old. The sculpts are scaled and in many cases, have been signed off by the film design teams, actors, the Tolkein estate, and Games Workshop. That's in part why it takes so long for the models to go from concept to tabletop.
Start with flat colours. Pick a scheme of 5 or 6 colours. Pick out the main parts (cloaks, armour, skin tones, weapons, mount, and maybe accessories like belts and pouches).
A medium brush, small brush, and maybe a fine detail brush.
Bang for your buck, Middle Earth is usually one of the best games to start with.
You will get better with practice, and I do recommend people watching Sorastro. While he paints different gaming systems, his technique and the way to level up is great (start basic, add washes, add highlights, add terrain, etc).
I hope you got into the game, and I hope you are enjoying it. This is one of the best tabletop games ever.
best bad hair day ever
I'm hoping to get started playing this game, and am aiming towards the 800 point level. About how many dice do you see people needing?
About 12 should do for most games. Try to have a variety of colour or size to help differetiate between combatants and weapons.
So what models/ army is that giant from during step 10
That one is a proxy Troll Brute from Azogs legion
With GW releasing the battle force boxes, how would you build from them for newbies?
That's a great question I'll be doing another video really soon about how I would recommend building your first army!
I just wish ppl iknow played lol cuz I have so many pieces but can’t play solo
Excellent tips!
Your thumbnail is misspelt
Zuko hair Arc
I believe only 4-5 people in my whole country play middle earth SBG , so first mission is to find them.🤣🤣🤣
What country are you playing in?
Um, how do you spell "Beginners" ? 😉
Please get a better mic or position it closer to you. Your audio setup sounds like you're talking across a room to the microphone.
Begginers? Lol.
I'm a beginner at spelling words correctly
looked like throw the dice there.
I just wish ppl iknow played lol cuz I have so many pieces but can’t play solo