Please read the description. Contents: 00:58 - My recommendation of the best tire for the Onewheel Pint 01:35 - The stock tire is fine...unless it's defective 02:00 - The best Pint tire 04:20 - The Whisper isn't good 07:55 - Hoosier vs Hoosier 10:25 - My preferred tire sealant 11:17 - Craft and Ride FK Hoosier 14:03 - The Vega is garbage...who wants it!? 17:45 - Conclusion
hey Mario my stock tire on my pint is fine however I feel now I’m getting earlier push back then I was before those sometimes I ride on cooler nights and it feels more normal. I have over 2000 miles on my board. Is this something that happens?
Not really. On the Pint it's codes in the controller at about 14.5mph. Perception of speed changes drastically after that many miles. And the lag between the app and board doesn't give a very accurate measure of speed in real time.
Mario Contino thanks for responding so quickly Mario.I think I will just except the limitations of the board as it is now. And enjoy going at slower speeds. At some point I would like to buy an EXR though I would like an updated version with more updated technology.
Sure, the Pint is more fun for short trips, convenient errands, and joy riding. Small S curves and carving make it enjoyable for me. As for a new XR, it's doubtful that FM will released one anytime this year. Maybe not until late next year. XRs are still selling well, so they don't have much reason to change their factory to replace it. Even then, there isn't much room in the platform itself to increase performance. The XXR battery modification uses larger cells and increases range, and removed most of the battery sag. However even with that, the limitations of the XR still exist due to the motor power and the small form factor. Until there's a real jump in technology, all improvements are likely incremental.
I installed a damn Vega on my Pint. Highest pressure I ever needed. 120 psi. Never again. Out of 4 tires used the Burris XtraRad is by far my favorite. It has all the best qualities and still won't wear out after 2500 miles! Love it!
Bought that Hoosier tire after watching this. That description is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you! I’m great on the pint, but was looking for something more like xr tire, with that flatter profile. Installed it last night, the ride feels so much more stable. It didn’t feel unstable before or anything, but it’s just better now. You’ve got a great channel, and everyone seems to like your videos, narration, editing, and it’s genuinely funny and entertaining. That accidental Tyler sealer bit was great 😂 You should definitely expand on what you review, you could definitely grow this!
Hello Mario, it’s YOU, JIMMY, and STROH that convinced me to get an OW PINT. I don’t use it for work because its more than 20 miles out. Needed something to decompress from work and all the bad stuff in the news and the price point for me was reasonable enough. After riding mine for a day, I ended buying a second one so that my son can also experience the Float Life. Just being out in the trail even the pavement just gives me different perspective and my mind is fresh after the ride. THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart. Yours and Jimmys content were the once I showed my wife to convinced her that it’s safe, I love Strohs content (I know, he’s EUC now) but my wife would have gotten a panic attack if I showed her his rides. Again Thank You.
"There are several instances of that model tire having a bump across the face that causes it to sound and feel like it's rolling over a twig every rotation." THANK YOU. I recently got a pint direct from future motion, put just over 100 miles onto it, and it's always had that issue. I thought I was crazy. Time to shop tires!
As an OG pint rider thank you for posting the videos that you do!! After 400 miles I'm finally giving my pint some love after owning it for 3 years.. about to do the GT Bat mod and put new tire on. I already put on a chibattery too after my stock battery finally crapped out on me. I love your gt mod install video. Very helpful. Keep on shredding Mario!
Grabbed this tire after watching the review. I found the Pint easier to remove the wheel than the XR which is interesting. Gotta say, quick 10km ride with the new wheel felt great! Thanks for the review.
Just to relay a recent experience that I had with my OneWheel Pint. I put a puncture sealant called Tireject, which I really like, into my tire and shortly after the wheel started clicking like an old shopping cart wheel. Turned out FutureMotion puts puncture sealant in the OneWheel tires at the factory and my sealant reacted with their sealant to create a rock inside the tire that was bouncing around.
Good video,. Always wrap a rachet strap around the tire (make sure its perfectly centered. and tighten it up some. Itll force the air pressure toward the ohtsides of the tire and itll seat with much less PSI. Cheers!
I'll cop the Flat Out per your recommendation. I see on their site that there is a "Small Tire Formula" to flow faster for one wheels. I had to walk my Pint on a leash yesterday due to a tiny puncture. Thankfully, after setting the tire with the puncture at the bottom to let the existing slime settle at the bottom and inflating the tire and spraying with soapy water, it went away. I remembered that you recommended a tire sealant, so I've watched your video again. Thank you, sir! 🙏
I’ve had good luck with the Sportsman variety in the past, but most recently they have a multipurpose one that works just as well, and feels about the same. Best of luck. 🙏
@@TheBoardGarage The small tire formula was designed more for low-air volume tires according to the site and is not recommended for passenger vehicles. So I'm guessing the other formulas may be thicker and heavier. I'll be getting your recommended Hoosier tire in the future. Currently, C&R has the medium 20D Hoosier on pre-order and per reviewers it's still soft that little rocks stick to the tire.
Just mounted your recommended Hoosier tire. Looking forward to trying it out. Hoping for a little more stability over the stock. Hopefully it's a little softer over bumps too. Keep up the good work on your channel.
This video was awesome. Absolute perfect amount of information and opinion and the way it was delivered. Like, I actually enjoyed listening to this dude speak about tires. I learned a lot and I almost feel like I just tested all these tires out myself. Thank you.
I managed to get the slick Vega 10.5 x 4.50 seated. It's such a rigid tire, to get it on the hub I had to heat it with a hair dryer for a few minutes to make it flexible. For the seating I poured half water and half dish soap into a cup, then used a small paintbrush to paint the soapy water all around the edges where the tire and hub meet. I removed the valve core and started pumping with a big manual bike pump. Somewhere between 50 and 80 psi the tire got seated with a loud pop.
The Hoosier whisper is great for all of you wondering, He is just not the carvious rider and most people dont enjoy a wider profile. I you like a very quiet, and faster feeling ride than go with the whisper.
Glad to see you back at it!!! I ride a Hoosier Whisper Slick and I have a TFL XtraRad Burris ready for when this one gives up on me. I don’t dislike the Whisper, but you made a great case for its alternative. Great video! Cheers, Mario!
I run vega race tires on my karts, just heat them or use a tire band for inflating them. They will seat usually around 50 psi. You all need to just buy a tire machine!
As always appreciate the video!! I have a pint and my stock tire doesn’t feel bad it wobbles when i get cruising maybe but nothing crazy. I’ve already spent to much on upgrades and was on the fence with the tire, But you’ve helped so much I’m gonna take your word and leave it until it wears out or becomes defective. Thanks for the awesome videos!! 👍👍
I've punctured the hoosier slick from C&R. Rolled on a wood screw and the tip just went through de whole thing. I removed the screw and slime did plug the hole overnight but the hole is too big, I don
15:30 you didn't try getting some help from gravity! I've never tried installing this tire but gravity will definitely help. You said the bottom side seated, it had gravity on its side! Also, leaving the tire (over)inflated for hours can help stretch the bead a little.
On the Vega, it looks like you should be using a belt around the tire to help force the beads to the rim. Yes, a soft tire will need a really wide belt, but even a tarp or blanket can serve to constrain the swell of the tire to help pop the bead.
I tried a strap clamp on attempt #2, no dice. I'm not going to invest in a kart tire band for the sake of seating a Vega. Hoosiers go on under 50psi or so without much help, and also I'm kind of done with tire testing.
Great to see you back! I was getting worried that the Covfefe19 had got you... 👀 I'd like to correct you on one point. You said the light tires accelerate faster, that's a common misconception. Vehicle acceleration is a function of vehicle power vs total vehicle mass (rider + onewheel). Tire weight makes no difference. Dieting off 20 pounds makes a lot of difference! Lighter tires can (potentially) deform faster so they might be better at absorbing bumps at high speeds. But then so can a tire with less pressure. At onewheel speeds there's almost no benefit to a "lighter" tire other than it shaves off a few ounces when you have to carry your Onewheel. 😉
Thank you! No covfefe19 here, thankfully. Been home with the family, working on the house and being a dad. Yes, rider weight makes the most significant difference in response and range, however tire weight does have an impact. All other things kept consistent, my XR gained 4.5 miles (on average) per charge. I tested it before and after tire change in the same week, body weight, temperature and route were the same. Even with normal variations, that's too significant of an increase to dismiss the effect the tire had. I realize that many riders easily dismiss variation when they perceive changes, but I make changes and ride with the intention of making content, so I take steps to eliminate as and adjust for personal variation. I checked with GPS trackers, not just by motor rotations. The Onewheel's single motor seems to be more affected by the wheel weight than other vehicles, imagine because of how reliant it is on the single wheel for both accelerating and microadjustments for balancing during the acceleration and deceleration curves. Response is more tied to wheel diameter, sure. Which is why XRs get more peppy from an 11" tire than the stock 11.5" Vega. However, all testing I've done does show less strain on the motor from a lighter rotational mass. I'd LOVE to see significant evidence to the contrary though, that'd be really cool to look at, and see what it is I've been experiencing that I got wrong. Would probably make a fun video too... Buuut, I haven't found it yet.
@@TheBoardGarage yeah you can definitely get an increase in range from a different tire. That is usually because of a reduced rolling resistance, same as if you increased tire pressure it rolls easier and you get better range. Thinner tires (less contact patch) also roll easier than fat tires. Regarding the tire mass and accelerating it's a bit hard to explain. Since the tire doesn't slip, ie it maintains positive traction, that means the acceleration is not of the tire it is of the entire mass of the accelerating vehicle. Acceleration is a function of the motor torque, gearing (tire circumference), and total vehicle mass which is being accelerated. You can use the same formula and replace the tire with (say) a winch tied to a tree. As long as you had the same motor torque, same gearing and same total vehicle mass you get the same acceleration. Since the flywheel mass of the tire is so small compared to the total mass of the vehicle it makes no significant difference. You made an interesting point about the hub motor making microadjustments. If you rode bumpy terrain where there is loss of traction then a lighter tire can make faster and easier microadjustments when it is off the ground. 🙂
Yes and No; YES - because you can definitely feel the decrease in rotational mass as kind of increased responsiveness of the motor. NO - because, it is a common misconception, that rotational mass will have much influence on the efficiency here; that's because rotational acceleration on any onewheel is way to slow so inertia is having just a minor influence. What actually is making a lighter tire more efficient (and obviously gaining more range) is rolling resistance. The important term here is “hysteresis” of the tire compound - hysteresis describes that the energy you have to put into deformation is greater than the energy gaining back from recovery. Any energy that’s not getting back is absorbed by the compound and “lost” into heat. So the difference with lighter tires usually is less material, so less structure needs to be deformed, therefore hysteresis will be smaller. Of course this is especially true, if the tire not only got less rubber but also thinner and softer, carcass. (the structural fabric inside).
I'd be happy to review that tire and compare it to the Hoosier. Unfortunately it's not in stock, and I don't want to drop another $80 on a tire after filling that rack. If I got my hands on one, I'd be happy to give it a go.
Just installed the XtraRad today, I'd say these two are very comparable. I haven't tried the Hoosier, but based on the Mario's review here, I found the XtraRad to perform similar to his explanation. All that said, it's pretty awesome and makes the Pint feel that much more "floaty" and responsive.
XtraRad is my favorite tire. I prefer it to the Hoosier slick and you get WAY WAY WAY more miles. I am turning over 8100+ miles on my Pint and almost 6000 of those miles are on just 2 XtraRad tires. So don't flinch at the price tag, it will get you double the miles of the others.
Got a 2nd hand Pint &the (stock) tyre’s got a slight (rotational) balance issue & a heavy bias in the wear pattern to where there’s a noticeable peak on the r/hand edge which amplifies any lateral wobble on hard surfaces (fine on trail) - pulls slightly one lumps back the other way. (previous owner may have been heavy or running v.low pressures as the overall wear rate is high for the mileage). Hence looking for a new tyre - good to hear the dimensions that work - annoyingly, Hoosier UK only seem to advertise the FF slick and the treaded for Pint (they may have the 10.x5.0 -6 in the catalog for karting -I’ll check). I’m generally trail riding due to current archaic rules over here (effectively ‘if it’s got a motor [& isn’t mainly human powered], then it’s a motor carriage, so motoring rules apply’ but with no was to comply except in private land, with permission), so might get the treaded. Might also check out some other Karting brands common over here - Maxxis, Mojo etc. so long as I can find reasonable dimensions.
My new Pint came with a completely UNbranded tire. I searched every inch and nothing - the only markings on the tire is the size; 10x4.5x6 and a few other random numbers stamped during production. Are you saying this is a "vega"? I'm asking only because I'm thinking maybe onewheel (maybe) changed the tire brand/type at some point during production (??). Regards,
I like off-road, and I like to turn tight, I’m gonna go with the Hoosier that craft and ride sells probably. I like how my stock tyre works, I don’t need more stability.
Hey Mario ! I received my tire today. Super happy that I followed your advice. Changing the tire was not very hard. What tire pressure would you recommend (I'm 70kg) ?
How much flatOut slime do I add? How much do I add to a stock tire with regular slime already in it ? How much would I add to a new tire with no slime?
My stock Pint tire has a Onewheel Symbol on it .. but its rounded out like the Hoosier Whisper.. Im gonna take your recomendation and not get a Threaded..Just seems like too much vibration on pavement
First off. Love your videos. Incredible time and effort put into them. Secondly, I totally went with your choice of tire for my first replacement from the stock Unilli. But, I am noticing something bizarre. At the end of a ride, my mag handle is filthy. With the stock unilli, I noticed this with my rear footpad, but now the mag handle? Is it the added width forcing dirt out the sides? Very strange. Nevertheless, you are spot on when you say it's a stable tire. Love it for that. Thank you again!
I haven't actually experienced that...it could be the softer rubber compound picks up more debris and flings them up. I'm not sure... But thank you for the kind words. Much appreciated.
Great video. How many miles do you think a typical slick vs treaded tire will get? I currently have a treaded tire on my Weped Scooter and got 800 miles with about 25% tread left on the front.
Dude love your videos and have been binge watching a lot of them.Awesome stuff but where in queens do you ride without traffic cause I’m in Glendale and the a ton of traffic all hours of the day.
I'm at almost 500 miles on the stock tire. I like it, but am wondering at what mileage I'll need a new tire? Sort of dreading it as I don't really want to do a tire change myself.
Well, it depends on how worn you want the tire. You could wear it down to the threading if you want, but some would say that is too much. If you can get 1000-1300 miles from it, great.
@@TheBoardGarage Thanks for the reply and glad to see you are back! I for some reason had never subscribed to your channel even though I've watched and enjoyed many of your videos. That's been fixed.
Hey. Thanks for the content. I am tired of running through tires. I am spending a lot of money buying tires and paying for it to be installed. What’s the hardest compound tire I can buy? I’m looking for longevity. I am willing to lose mileage. I just need a hard tire. What do you recommend?
awesome video mate. I'm looking to get the tire you recommend for my pint... But living in EU/Paris is a pain to get that delivered. Any recommendations ? Thanks a lot. I also see that you prefer slick to threaded tires... and I'm wondering why. I understand that slick give you more control, but if you ride in the woods or go "all terrain" wouldn't a hoosier threaded be a good choice? Keep rocking !
RideWithOKP Oh wow, I'm so glad you watched my video. I've enjoyed your content for a while now. I prefer the slick tire because of how it feels on pavement. It's a smooth feel, and treaded tires have a small vibration on the street. It's something I just don't like. I very rarely ride off road, so it doesn't make sense for me to have a treaded tire. My slick rides decently on trails, but I don't go on them a lot. If your riding is mostly in the woods, or on grass/dirt/gravel, you would probably want a treaded tire. But treaded tires also reduce range, and put more stress on the motor. If you are having trouble getting a tire for your board, reach out to me on Instagram (@mariocontinojr), and I'll try to help. We could arrange it so I get the tire and forward it to you.
@@SimonGraber thanks mate ! I ordered it from US and Hoosier FR pointed me to one shop that I know (but he don't have the specific tire). I should get it in ten days or so.
You chose the D10A compound, I see that there are other compounds of this same tire. While not your favorite do you have an opinion on what the characteristics of the others might be? I would not need a sticky tire, don't want it picking up any more debris than the stock pint tire. Which compound would be closest to the stock Pint tire?
Have you ever tried the Burris 11x 5.0-6 tire on the Pint? If so, how does it compare to that Hoosier that you love? Trying to decide If I should buy the Hoosier 10a slick or spend the extra $25 for the Burris. Thanks!
I have, it's a good tire, but it's not for me, personally. The feel changes with that tire, and I've personally found that it behaves differently at different pressures. More so at least than the Hoosier. The Hoosier seems a bit more consistent across pressures from 15-26psi. But that's just my experience and I can't say how it'd be for someone else.
hey mario, do you think the D20 compound version of the hoosier slick 10.5x5x6 would be an upgrade from the stock unili on the pint>>? or should I wait to get a softer D10 compound>? wehat are your thoughts. got 1200miles on stock so need a new tire bad and options are either whisper or hooser slick d20..thanks for all the great content
hey brother! my Hoosier 10.5/5-6 is almost dead after 1500kms riding street & off-road sand and dirt... would you recommend me another tire as I'm going to replace it ? I was thinking about the threaded one but not super sure about it.
I'm not really sure... It's still either between that one and the XtraRad if you can get it. I'm not a big fan of treaded tires other than the Enduro.. Good to hear from ya!
Love your videos! Top notch. A signed tire by your wife would be worth more. Because along with your questionable use of safety gear, she will also now be aware of your questionable purchase of Vega tires. 😜
Hey, Mario. Showing cord again so I am soon due for another tire change. I just want to compare notes. What tire lube have you been using that you think works best. I have been using a combo of DuPont teflon spray on the tire and bead (left to dry) followed by various different tire lubes. Do you have a favorite brand?
I kind of gave my tire bead lubricant to my friend who does tire changes for people in the city. Now I kind of just use Flat Out smeared all around the bead seat, and a tire strap from Rocket Racing. Works fine for the Hoosiers I use.
Which tire do you recommend for XR? Have the FF Hoosier T2 but ride mostly pavement, so looking for a slick. Debating whisper, normal Hoosier slick 11x6x6 D10 or Burris street pro
I'm late to the game but it looks like I can get the D20 (there's no 'A' at the end of the description though hmm) at a few places (as the D10 and D30 are all sold out), would you say go ahead and get that? Thanks!
@@KaizenOz nope…actually destroyed the tire trying to use a ratchet strap to get it to pop into place. I ended up spending $180 to ship it to FM and have them put the stock tire on.
@@Lurch685 that sucks, sorry to hear, I just installed another whisper on the weekend, left it out in the sun to warm, used dish soap around the bead, first bead set at 1 30psi, second at 45psi, no strap
Mario Contino ah dang. Think you might consider grabbing that tire and testing it thoroughly against the Hoosier Slick you recommend? I have heard great things from both and am really trying to decide. A video showcasing both together would be fantastic
Nicholas A Well, I'm not opposed to it. Unfortunately, it's sold out still and I'm not sure I'm up for dropping $80 on another tire. The Vega left me bummed out, and my budget isn't endless. Still just on a modest teacher salary and house and kids are a huge portion of the budget. But if I got my hands on one, I'd put it on and test it thoroughly and make a dedicated video. I dropped a hint to Jeff at TFL on Reddit, maybe he's open to it.
Please read the description.
Contents:
00:58 - My recommendation of the best tire for the Onewheel Pint
01:35 - The stock tire is fine...unless it's defective
02:00 - The best Pint tire
04:20 - The Whisper isn't good
07:55 - Hoosier vs Hoosier
10:25 - My preferred tire sealant
11:17 - Craft and Ride FK Hoosier
14:03 - The Vega is garbage...who wants it!?
17:45 - Conclusion
I'm sure you'll enjoy it, it's a great tire.
hey Mario my stock tire on my pint is fine however I feel now I’m getting earlier push back then I was before those sometimes I ride on cooler nights and it feels more normal. I have over 2000 miles on my board. Is this something that happens?
Not really. On the Pint it's codes in the controller at about 14.5mph. Perception of speed changes drastically after that many miles. And the lag between the app and board doesn't give a very accurate measure of speed in real time.
Mario Contino thanks for responding so quickly Mario.I think I will just except the limitations of the board as it is now. And enjoy going at slower speeds. At some point I would like to buy an EXR though I would like an updated version with more updated technology.
Sure, the Pint is more fun for short trips, convenient errands, and joy riding. Small S curves and carving make it enjoyable for me.
As for a new XR, it's doubtful that FM will released one anytime this year. Maybe not until late next year. XRs are still selling well, so they don't have much reason to change their factory to replace it. Even then, there isn't much room in the platform itself to increase performance. The XXR battery modification uses larger cells and increases range, and removed most of the battery sag. However even with that, the limitations of the XR still exist due to the motor power and the small form factor.
Until there's a real jump in technology, all improvements are likely incremental.
Watching the whole video, but man I appreciate you cutting to the chase right at the start. Fantastic
Agreed. This is the only Onewheel channel I’ve subscribed to. Good stuff, nice fast pace without being repetitive, keep it up!
I installed a damn Vega on my Pint. Highest pressure I ever needed. 120 psi. Never again. Out of 4 tires used the Burris XtraRad is by far my favorite. It has all the best qualities and still won't wear out after 2500 miles! Love it!
the XtraRad is really close to this Hoosier 5.0 right? or is there any mayor difference?
Bought that Hoosier tire after watching this. That description is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you! I’m great on the pint, but was looking for something more like xr tire, with that flatter profile. Installed it last night, the ride feels so much more stable. It didn’t feel unstable before or anything, but it’s just better now.
You’ve got a great channel, and everyone seems to like your videos, narration, editing, and it’s genuinely funny and entertaining. That accidental Tyler sealer bit was great 😂 You should definitely expand on what you review, you could definitely grow this!
Hello Mario, it’s YOU, JIMMY, and STROH that convinced me to get an OW PINT. I don’t use it for work because its more than 20 miles out. Needed something to decompress from work and all the bad stuff in the news and the price point for me was reasonable enough. After riding mine for a day, I ended buying a second one so that my son can also experience the Float Life. Just being out in the trail even the pavement just gives me different perspective and my mind is fresh after the ride. THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart. Yours and Jimmys content were the once I showed my wife to convinced her that it’s safe, I love Strohs content (I know, he’s EUC now) but my wife would have gotten a panic attack if I showed her his rides. Again Thank You.
"There are several instances of that model tire having a bump across the face that causes it to sound and feel like it's rolling over a twig every rotation." THANK YOU. I recently got a pint direct from future motion, put just over 100 miles onto it, and it's always had that issue. I thought I was crazy. Time to shop tires!
Same exact thing here. Good to know it's a common problem and not the board itself.
As an OG pint rider thank you for posting the videos that you do!! After 400 miles I'm finally giving my pint some love after owning it for 3 years.. about to do the GT Bat mod and put new tire on. I already put on a chibattery too after my stock battery finally crapped out on me. I love your gt mod install video. Very helpful. Keep on shredding Mario!
Grabbed this tire after watching the review. I found the Pint easier to remove the wheel than the XR which is interesting. Gotta say, quick 10km ride with the new wheel felt great! Thanks for the review.
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Just to relay a recent experience that I had with my OneWheel Pint. I put a puncture sealant called Tireject, which I really like, into my tire and shortly after the wheel started clicking like an old shopping cart wheel. Turned out FutureMotion puts puncture sealant in the OneWheel tires at the factory and my sealant reacted with their sealant to create a rock inside the tire that was bouncing around.
Good video,. Always wrap a rachet strap around the tire (make sure its perfectly centered. and tighten it up some. Itll force the air pressure toward the ohtsides of the tire and itll seat with much less PSI. Cheers!
I'll cop the Flat Out per your recommendation. I see on their site that there is a "Small Tire Formula" to flow faster for one wheels. I had to walk my Pint on a leash yesterday due to a tiny puncture. Thankfully, after setting the tire with the puncture at the bottom to let the existing slime settle at the bottom and inflating the tire and spraying with soapy water, it went away. I remembered that you recommended a tire sealant, so I've watched your video again. Thank you, sir! 🙏
I’ve had good luck with the Sportsman variety in the past, but most recently they have a multipurpose one that works just as well, and feels about the same. Best of luck. 🙏
@@TheBoardGarage The small tire formula was designed more for low-air volume tires according to the site and is not recommended for passenger vehicles. So I'm guessing the other formulas may be thicker and heavier. I'll be getting your recommended Hoosier tire in the future. Currently, C&R has the medium 20D Hoosier on pre-order and per reviewers it's still soft that little rocks stick to the tire.
@Tatad3 Ah, good to know. Thank you for the information. 👍
You make some of the best pint videos on RUclips. Please make more 🙏🙏🙏😎
I shall. Break time is over.
@@TheBoardGarage Glad to hear.. maybe I'll make it up to NYC or you'll make it down to D.C. and we could link for a colab ride. 💪💯😎
Yeah, maybe. D.C. is nice, I'd love to go back.
The man is back!
Just mounted your recommended Hoosier tire. Looking forward to trying it out. Hoping for a little more stability over the stock. Hopefully it's a little softer over bumps too. Keep up the good work on your channel.
Hey mate, did you notice a reduction in range? I just put my D10a on yesterday
This video was awesome. Absolute perfect amount of information and opinion and the way it was delivered. Like, I actually enjoyed listening to this dude speak about tires. I learned a lot and I almost feel like I just tested all these tires out myself. Thank you.
I managed to get the slick Vega 10.5 x 4.50 seated. It's such a rigid tire, to get it on the hub I had to heat it with a hair dryer for a few minutes to make it flexible. For the seating I poured half water and half dish soap into a cup, then used a small paintbrush to paint the soapy water all around the edges where the tire and hub meet. I removed the valve core and started pumping with a big manual bike pump. Somewhere between 50 and 80 psi the tire got seated with a loud pop.
The Hoosier whisper is great for all of you wondering, He is just not the carvious rider and most people dont enjoy a wider profile. I you like a very quiet, and faster feeling ride than go with the whisper.
And it is definaltly the most carvable tire i have one myself and my friends have different, me and my friends agree that mine has the best ride.
@@caiden0779 how does it compare with the stock pint tire? is it similar stability wise?
XtraRad all day for me! Had the whisper, the treaded, and the stock. Never tried the Hoosier you like though.... would like to.
It's a very nice tire, absolutely. But I just couldn't keep spending money on tires. That Vega was a waste of $60 and I'm still salty about it.
@@TheBoardGarage never spend money on a vega haha...unless its dumping it in the trash
Just got my Onewheel a few weeks ago and after 200 miles with it I noticed my tire was warped. This video could not have come at a better time❤️
Glad to see you back at it!!! I ride a Hoosier Whisper Slick and I have a TFL XtraRad Burris ready for when this one gives up on me. I don’t dislike the Whisper, but you made a great case for its alternative. Great video! Cheers, Mario!
dont even have a pint, i have an xr but video was so entertaining anyway! hope you do a video on xr tires one day also
I run vega race tires on my karts, just heat them or use a tire band for inflating them. They will seat usually around 50 psi. You all need to just buy a tire machine!
As always appreciate the video!! I have a pint and my stock tire doesn’t feel bad it wobbles when i get cruising maybe but nothing crazy. I’ve already spent to much on upgrades and was on the fence with the tire, But you’ve helped so much I’m gonna take your word and leave it until it wears out or becomes defective. Thanks for the awesome videos!! 👍👍
This recommended tire has made me more of a Pint X addict 🙂 20 miles a day since the swap 👍
I'm glad to hear it!
Great rundown and informative video. SO. MANY. WHEEL OPTIONS. Loving the look of the workshop/video room, too!
Thanks Nate!!!
...it's Nate, right? 😳
Just switched to your recommended tire. Love it! Really appreciate your great advice
Gonna take your advice, only issue with stock for me is stability. Thx for sharing
video quality is on point my man! Great video...please keep it up.
I've punctured the hoosier slick from C&R. Rolled on a wood screw and the tip just went through de whole thing. I removed the screw and slime did plug the hole overnight but the hole is too big, I don
15:30 you didn't try getting some help from gravity! I've never tried installing this tire but gravity will definitely help. You said the bottom side seated, it had gravity on its side! Also, leaving the tire (over)inflated for hours can help stretch the bead a little.
On the Vega, it looks like you should be using a belt around the tire to help force the beads to the rim. Yes, a soft tire will need a really wide belt, but even a tarp or blanket can serve to constrain the swell of the tire to help pop the bead.
I tried a strap clamp on attempt #2, no dice. I'm not going to invest in a kart tire band for the sake of seating a Vega. Hoosiers go on under 50psi or so without much help, and also I'm kind of done with tire testing.
Great to see you back! I was getting worried that the Covfefe19 had got you... 👀
I'd like to correct you on one point. You said the light tires accelerate faster, that's a common misconception. Vehicle acceleration is a function of vehicle power vs total vehicle mass (rider + onewheel). Tire weight makes no difference. Dieting off 20 pounds makes a lot of difference!
Lighter tires can (potentially) deform faster so they might be better at absorbing bumps at high speeds. But then so can a tire with less pressure. At onewheel speeds there's almost no benefit to a "lighter" tire other than it shaves off a few ounces when you have to carry your Onewheel. 😉
Thank you! No covfefe19 here, thankfully. Been home with the family, working on the house and being a dad.
Yes, rider weight makes the most significant difference in response and range, however tire weight does have an impact. All other things kept consistent, my XR gained 4.5 miles (on average) per charge. I tested it before and after tire change in the same week, body weight, temperature and route were the same. Even with normal variations, that's too significant of an increase to dismiss the effect the tire had.
I realize that many riders easily dismiss variation when they perceive changes, but I make changes and ride with the intention of making content, so I take steps to eliminate as and adjust for personal variation. I checked with GPS trackers, not just by motor rotations.
The Onewheel's single motor seems to be more affected by the wheel weight than other vehicles, imagine because of how reliant it is on the single wheel for both accelerating and microadjustments for balancing during the acceleration and deceleration curves.
Response is more tied to wheel diameter, sure. Which is why XRs get more peppy from an 11" tire than the stock 11.5" Vega.
However, all testing I've done does show less strain on the motor from a lighter rotational mass. I'd LOVE to see significant evidence to the contrary though, that'd be really cool to look at, and see what it is I've been experiencing that I got wrong. Would probably make a fun video too... Buuut, I haven't found it yet.
@@TheBoardGarage yeah you can definitely get an increase in range from a different tire. That is usually because of a reduced rolling resistance, same as if you increased tire pressure it rolls easier and you get better range. Thinner tires (less contact patch) also roll easier than fat tires.
Regarding the tire mass and accelerating it's a bit hard to explain. Since the tire doesn't slip, ie it maintains positive traction, that means the acceleration is not of the tire it is of the entire mass of the accelerating vehicle. Acceleration is a function of the motor torque, gearing (tire circumference), and total vehicle mass which is being accelerated. You can use the same formula and replace the tire with (say) a winch tied to a tree. As long as you had the same motor torque, same gearing and same total vehicle mass you get the same acceleration. Since the flywheel mass of the tire is so small compared to the total mass of the vehicle it makes no significant difference.
You made an interesting point about the hub motor making microadjustments. If you rode bumpy terrain where there is loss of traction then a lighter tire can make faster and easier microadjustments when it is off the ground. 🙂
Yes and No;
YES - because you can definitely feel the decrease in rotational mass as kind of increased responsiveness of the motor.
NO - because, it is a common misconception, that rotational mass will have much influence on the efficiency here; that's because rotational acceleration on any onewheel is way to slow so inertia is having just a minor influence. What actually is making a lighter tire more efficient (and obviously gaining more range) is rolling resistance. The important term here is “hysteresis” of the tire compound - hysteresis describes that the energy you have to put into deformation is greater than the energy gaining back from recovery. Any energy that’s not getting back is absorbed by the compound and “lost” into heat. So the difference with lighter tires usually is less material, so less structure needs to be deformed, therefore hysteresis will be smaller. Of course this is especially true, if the tire not only got less rubber but also thinner and softer, carcass. (the structural fabric inside).
same. Do Not Like Treaded Tires. city boy/city rider, don't need that. fav tire so far aside from the hideous 'Hoosier' font on the sides 😖 👍🏾
Would be great to know how the XtraRad compares to your recommendation :)
exactly what i was thinking the one tire that should even be compared on this
I'd be happy to review that tire and compare it to the Hoosier. Unfortunately it's not in stock, and I don't want to drop another $80 on a tire after filling that rack. If I got my hands on one, I'd be happy to give it a go.
Just installed the XtraRad today, I'd say these two are very comparable. I haven't tried the Hoosier, but based on the Mario's review here, I found the XtraRad to perform similar to his explanation. All that said, it's pretty awesome and makes the Pint feel that much more "floaty" and responsive.
XtraRad is my favorite tire. I prefer it to the Hoosier slick and you get WAY WAY WAY more miles. I am turning over 8100+ miles on my Pint and almost 6000 of those miles are on just 2 XtraRad tires. So don't flinch at the price tag, it will get you double the miles of the others.
@@mattsplatquadfun3219 any range increase? really debating getting that tire
Another great review, man. Thanks. Hope to see ya floating in Queens.
Thank you. 🙏
Cool, fun and very informative video Mario!
Got a 2nd hand Pint &the (stock) tyre’s got a slight (rotational) balance issue & a heavy bias in the wear pattern to where there’s a noticeable peak on the r/hand edge which amplifies any lateral wobble on hard surfaces (fine on trail) - pulls slightly one lumps back the other way. (previous owner may have been heavy or running v.low pressures as the overall wear rate is high for the mileage).
Hence looking for a new tyre - good to hear the dimensions that work - annoyingly, Hoosier UK only seem to advertise the FF slick and the treaded for Pint (they may have the 10.x5.0 -6 in the catalog for karting -I’ll check). I’m generally trail riding due to current archaic rules over here (effectively ‘if it’s got a motor [& isn’t mainly human powered], then it’s a motor carriage, so motoring rules apply’ but with no was to comply except in private land, with permission), so might get the treaded.
Might also check out some other Karting brands common over here - Maxxis, Mojo etc. so long as I can find reasonable dimensions.
My new Pint came with a completely UNbranded tire. I searched every inch and nothing - the only markings on the tire is the size; 10x4.5x6 and a few other random numbers stamped during production.
Are you saying this is a "vega"?
I'm asking only because I'm thinking maybe onewheel (maybe) changed the tire brand/type at some point during production (??).
Regards,
I like off-road, and I like to turn tight, I’m gonna go with the Hoosier that craft and ride sells probably. I like how my stock tyre works, I don’t need more stability.
Hey Mario ! I received my tire today. Super happy that I followed your advice. Changing the tire was not very hard. What tire pressure would you recommend (I'm 70kg) ?
10% of your bodyweight
Thanks for this video. I just setup my pint with the recommended Hoosier in the video!
could you compare Xtra Rad x Burris with what you suggested? I'm looking for a tire for my PInt. Btw, great video, enjoy all videos you made.
How much flatOut slime do I add? How much do I add to a stock tire with regular slime already in it ? How much would I add to a new tire with no slime?
Dat thumbnail doooooo 👌
I don’t like the stock tire on my pint X because it slips everywhere whenever I go off-road or even ride through a little dirt or gravel
Awesome video as always💪 thanks for putting all info into content. Wb
Boosting ur engagement
My stock Pint tire has a Onewheel Symbol on it .. but its rounded out like the Hoosier Whisper.. Im gonna take your recomendation and not get a Threaded..Just seems like too much vibration on pavement
love the 4k quality. Sub'ed
First off. Love your videos. Incredible time and effort put into them. Secondly, I totally went with your choice of tire for my first replacement from the stock Unilli. But, I am noticing something bizarre. At the end of a ride, my mag handle is filthy. With the stock unilli, I noticed this with my rear footpad, but now the mag handle? Is it the added width forcing dirt out the sides? Very strange. Nevertheless, you are spot on when you say it's a stable tire. Love it for that. Thank you again!
I haven't actually experienced that...it could be the softer rubber compound picks up more debris and flings them up. I'm not sure... But thank you for the kind words. Much appreciated.
Seems like the recommended Hoosier with D10A compound was discontinued.
Now the best one will be the one that doesn’t render your board useless.
Great video. How many miles do you think a typical slick vs treaded tire will get? I currently have a treaded tire on my Weped Scooter and got 800 miles with about 25% tread left on the front.
Riding on Marathon Parkway, nice!
Dude love your videos and have been binge watching a lot of them.Awesome stuff but where in queens do you ride without traffic cause I’m in Glendale and the a ton of traffic all hours of the day.
Thank you! I'm in northeastern Queens, so it's a bit different over here.
AWESOME VIDEO!! This helped alot!
I'm at almost 500 miles on the stock tire. I like it, but am wondering at what mileage I'll need a new tire? Sort of dreading it as I don't really want to do a tire change myself.
Well, it depends on how worn you want the tire. You could wear it down to the threading if you want, but some would say that is too much. If you can get 1000-1300 miles from it, great.
@@TheBoardGarage Thanks for the reply and glad to see you are back! I for some reason had never subscribed to your channel even though I've watched and enjoyed many of your videos. That's been fixed.
Hey. Thanks for the content. I am tired of running through tires. I am spending a lot of money buying tires and paying for it to be installed. What’s the hardest compound tire I can buy? I’m looking for longevity. I am willing to lose mileage. I just need a hard tire. What do you recommend?
It is NOW time for a NEW more refined XR! The pushback on the pint sucks! FUTURE MOTION MAKE ONE!
I started with a GT and now also have a Pint X for the GF. I wobble like crazy on the Pint X. I think it is the profile of the stock tire. Am I right?
Was the Burris Slick mentioned? Curious how that one stacks up to the Hoosier you recommended.
awesome video mate. I'm looking to get the tire you recommend for my pint... But living in EU/Paris is a pain to get that delivered. Any recommendations ? Thanks a lot. I also see that you prefer slick to threaded tires... and I'm wondering why. I understand that slick give you more control, but if you ride in the woods or go "all terrain" wouldn't a hoosier threaded be a good choice? Keep rocking !
RideWithOKP Oh wow, I'm so glad you watched my video. I've enjoyed your content for a while now.
I prefer the slick tire because of how it feels on pavement. It's a smooth feel, and treaded tires have a small vibration on the street. It's something I just don't like. I very rarely ride off road, so it doesn't make sense for me to have a treaded tire. My slick rides decently on trails, but I don't go on them a lot.
If your riding is mostly in the woods, or on grass/dirt/gravel, you would probably want a treaded tire. But treaded tires also reduce range, and put more stress on the motor.
If you are having trouble getting a tire for your board, reach out to me on Instagram (@mariocontinojr), and I'll try to help. We could arrange it so I get the tire and forward it to you.
Get it from Germany, I just ordered it. Just google Hoosier Germany and E-mail them.
@@SimonGraber thanks mate ! I ordered it from US and Hoosier FR pointed me to one shop that I know (but he don't have the specific tire). I should get it in ten days or so.
You chose the D10A compound, I see that there are other compounds of this same tire. While not your favorite do you have an opinion on what the characteristics of the others might be? I would not need a sticky tire, don't want it picking up any more debris than the stock pint tire. Which compound would be closest to the stock Pint tire?
D20A and D30A are harder rubbers, that give you more durability, longer tire life, but less grip and more volume against the pavement.
Just had my Craft and Ride Hoosier hit carcass after just 300kms. Stock tire gets three times the wear at a third of the price.
Have you ever tried the Burris 11x 5.0-6 tire on the Pint? If so, how does it compare to that Hoosier that you love? Trying to decide If I should buy the Hoosier 10a slick or spend the extra $25 for the Burris. Thanks!
I have, it's a good tire, but it's not for me, personally. The feel changes with that tire, and I've personally found that it behaves differently at different pressures. More so at least than the Hoosier. The Hoosier seems a bit more consistent across pressures from 15-26psi.
But that's just my experience and I can't say how it'd be for someone else.
hey mario, do you think the D20 compound version of the hoosier slick 10.5x5x6 would be an upgrade from the stock unili on the pint>>? or should I wait to get a softer D10 compound>? wehat are your thoughts. got 1200miles on stock so need a new tire bad and options are either whisper or hooser slick d20..thanks for all the great content
Sure, the D20 rubber compound is very good, and that would be a great tire to go to. Best of luck.
hey brother! my Hoosier 10.5/5-6 is almost dead after 1500kms riding street & off-road sand and dirt... would you recommend me another tire as I'm going to replace it ? I was thinking about the threaded one but not super sure about it.
I'm not really sure... It's still either between that one and the XtraRad if you can get it. I'm not a big fan of treaded tires other than the Enduro..
Good to hear from ya!
Love your videos! Top notch. A signed tire by your wife would be worth more. Because along with your questionable use of safety gear, she will also now be aware of your questionable purchase of Vega tires. 😜
Hey, Mario. Showing cord again so I am soon due for another tire change. I just want to compare notes. What tire lube have you been using that you think works best. I have been using a combo of DuPont teflon spray on the tire and bead (left to dry) followed by various different tire lubes. Do you have a favorite brand?
I kind of gave my tire bead lubricant to my friend who does tire changes for people in the city. Now I kind of just use Flat Out smeared all around the bead seat, and a tire strap from Rocket Racing. Works fine for the Hoosiers I use.
@@TheBoardGarage I never thought of just using the tire slime. That stuff is pretty slick. I might try that on this next tire. Thanks.
Is there a reason you didn't try out any of the burris slick tires??
Since you probably changed your pint tire a lot, any way you can make a video on how you do it? If you don’t have the machine to pop the tire off
Indeed I shall.
Hey Mario, just wondering what the Converse shoes logo is at around 4:35, when you are showing the whisper
They were a science-y molecular structure type graphic. I'm unsure of what it was called, those shoes were bought on eBay.
I wanted the Vega
😎Any recommendations for the XR⁉️🤙
Either FF Whisper 6, the TFL Street Pro, or the Hoosier 5.5" treaded.
Which tire do you recommend for XR? Have the FF Hoosier T2 but ride mostly pavement, so looking for a slick. Debating whisper, normal Hoosier slick 11x6x6 D10 or Burris street pro
I'm on the Hooser 11x6.0-6 D10, and I love it. I'd recommend it, it'd essentially the 'medium' or tires for the board.
When u fell on the whisper, was that tape or something on the pint???
The recommended tire seems hard to come by now 🤔
onestopboardshop.com/onewheel/hoosier-slick-pint/
I'm late to the game but it looks like I can get the D20 (there's no 'A' at the end of the description though hmm) at a few places (as the D10 and D30 are all sold out), would you say go ahead and get that? Thanks!
Sure, that's a fine tire.
The Wheel Arch also fits over the 5.0? Thanks in advance!
Is nimbus is that regular Hoosier slick on craft ride? Can’t find it
does a 11" fit on the pint ?
would upp the max speed a bit i guess
My whisper tire provides me about 30% increased range on my XR
The Hoosier 11.0x6.0-6 in D10a compound is actually a bit lighter, slightly better with turns, and costs $30 less. It's a better tire for the XR.
Hi bought hoosier 10,5 x 5,0x6 d10a compound, want to ask what psi should i ride, 190lb
Any noticeable decrease or increase in range with the wider/softer tire?
Hardly. Maybe a slight bump due to a slightly lighter weight of the tire, but it's likely not that significant.
And the 3rd time?
Is the recommended tire available anywhere nowadays?
Everywhere seems sold out. 😕
It seems it is sold out everywhere, and as it always goes, the price has gone up at Onewheel specific retailers. Sorry.
hello. did u ever get rid of the vega tire? ill take it.
How do any/all of them handle on wet pavement?
U know any1 who changes pint tires in the LA country area?
what about range, has it gone up or down?
I have a Whisper from FF and it will not go on. The bead simply will not set on one section. Infuriating. I’ve been down 2 months now!
Did you get the bead to set? maybe leave it outside so its nice and hot and use some dish soap along the bead and rim
@@KaizenOz nope…actually destroyed the tire trying to use a ratchet strap to get it to pop into place. I ended up spending $180 to ship it to FM and have them put the stock tire on.
@@Lurch685 that sucks, sorry to hear, I just installed another whisper on the weekend, left it out in the sun to warm, used dish soap around the bead, first bead set at 1 30psi, second at 45psi, no strap
Hey Mario, will the D30A one be more difficult to install than the d10?
Probably a bit more difficult. Likely not a catastrophe, but might take a bit more effort.
@@TheBoardGarage tyvm for the reply!
Can you ride with a fender on with a hoosier 10.5 x 5.0-6 tire?
Yes, it fits fine.
We gotta get u on a uni lol. OW is awesome but for range uni is it
Nah, I'm not a Uni person. Tried them, not for me. I'm expanding into eskate, though. So there's that.
Does that 5 inch tire work with a fender or will it rub
It fits perfectly with any fender. If you look at my latest video on the battery mod, you'll see the same tire with the fender installed.
Have you ever tried the Pint Burris Xtra Rad Slick tire? ( im not all the way done with the video if i missed it )
I have tried it briefly. It's a very nice tire, but I don't own one and so I couldn't test it extensively.
Mario Contino ah dang. Think you might consider grabbing that tire and testing it thoroughly against the Hoosier Slick you recommend? I have heard great things from both and am really trying to decide. A video showcasing both together would be fantastic
Mario Contino I have 950 miles on my stock pint tire so I’m guessing it won’t be long before I need a swap!
Nicholas A Well, I'm not opposed to it. Unfortunately, it's sold out still and I'm not sure I'm up for dropping $80 on another tire. The Vega left me bummed out, and my budget isn't endless. Still just on a modest teacher salary and house and kids are a huge portion of the budget. But if I got my hands on one, I'd put it on and test it thoroughly and make a dedicated video. I dropped a hint to Jeff at TFL on Reddit, maybe he's open to it.
Mario Contino fingers crossed they send you one for free to test!
👏🏼👏🏼
What would be a good steady tire for the onewheel plus ?
Either the Float Life Burris Street Pro, or the FF Whisper 6. The Plus/XR Whisper is a great (but fragile) tire.
Mario Contino 👍
I use tiger sealant ! LOL
Someone link me the FK Rubber Compound Hoosier wheel pls.
You can have mine, DM me on Instagram.