Hand Crafted and BUILT DIFFERENTLY! 2023 Pleasure-Way Plateau TS Class B Campervan Motorhome
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- New 2023 Pleasure-Way Plateau TS Mercedes-Benz Class B Van Motorhome
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"Why do B Vans cost so much?" That's the question I get all the time and THAT'S the question I wanted to try to answer as soon as I started looking at this RV. The more I learned the more I appreciated what I saw from this company and would love to hear what you think of it!
Specs, Weights, & Measures:
Mercedes 3500 Chassis
Engine 3.0L V6 BlueTEC
Length 22' 9" / 693 cm
Height 9' 8" / 295 cm
Width 7' 1" / 216 cm
Seat Belts 4
Ceiling 6’ 3” / 190 cm
Fresh 24 US gal. / 91 L
Grey 35 US gal. / 132 L
Black 12 US gal. / 45 L
LP 8.16 US gal. / 31 L
Fuel 24.5 US gal. / 93 L
Towing 4,220 lbs / 1,914 kg
Wheelbase 170"
GVWR 11,030 lbs / 5,003 kg
GCWR 15,250 lbs / 6,917 kg
Curb Weight 8,772lbs
Cargo Rating 2,258lbs
GAWR Front 4,080 lbs / 1,851 kg
GAWR Back 7,720 lbs / 3,502 kg
Driver Single Bed 24” W x 76” L
Passenger Single Bed 24” W x 76” L
Queen Bed 70” W x 76” L
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00:00 RV Overview
02:33 Stepping Inside
06:03 Ceiling Heights
07:08 Superior Materials
10:55 Power Bed & Storage
12:36 Cab & Chassis
14:11 Below the Surface
20:08 Exterior
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We have an old Class B that belonged to my in-laws and now we have it. It's OLD, but we'll probably just update the mechanical stuff and keep it going as long as possible. It's well-loved and it will be a sad day when we have to let it go. There's something really fun about using one that is very hard to describe to someone else. If you've never travelled in one, it's well worth renting one for a short vacation to find out for yourself.
Good to see a Quality Canadian Product featured. Made in my home province of Saskatchewan. I look forward to your featuring the other two Canadian Class B vans.
Leisure Travel Vans quality is amazing too.
Make sure to compare warranties ..... that can be an indication re: quality.
What a beautiful unit. I can see why they're so expensive. BUT, the ultimate answer to couples all-in-one camping. Thanks, Nerd.
They’re excellent Road trippers for sure
Thanks Josh. Your tour and comments about the Pleasure Way class B was very informative! Please do more episodes down the road on class B’s as they are so innovative and in demand. We may be in the market for a class B in a few years-especially as more manufacturers develop and improve the EV technology. My dream class B would be a hybrid. Winnebago’s Rep for its prototype EV class B at Tamp mentioned that the lithium batteries which are stored in the belly of the van really helps to make the vehicle more stable (not as rocky) on the road and in windy conditions. That appeals to me. We shall see. As always, great job, Josh.
TY Missy :)
Compressor fridge or absorption fridge(gas and power). A compressor fridge will use a lot of battery power, but be more efficient and trouble free, Absorption fridge will run for ever and use no power just use propane and it will require more simple maintenance. You need a good battery setup for a compressor fridge. A steel body van has no fiberglass issues but it may rust. Glass B are smaller inside so you have to do things in a different way and if you are a big person may not be for you, but because they are smaller you can drive them down narrow roads. To build a good van motorhome you have to have a good design because you are fitting a lot into a small space. I bought a class B of a small RV manufacture, it cost so much to build they decided to build no more because the cost made it uncompetitive . They normally manufacture large motorhomes with fiberglass exterior. I hope my comments are helpful. Good video
please make more videos about the pros and cons of Class B and C motorhomes. Excellent video! I didn't see the price tag in the list you ran in the video.
Noted!
Go Canada lol! Thanks for sharing the background of the company.
Yup, if you're into class B's - and you have the cash - this is a fantastic choice. It's not for me - had 3 Mercedes work vans and we will NEVER go down that road again especially with diesel being twice the price of gas here. Then again, if you can afford one of these, you're probably not sweating the diesel cost. You probably aren't flinching at the maintenance costs either, which can be a real eye popper.
Class B's are a little too small for me but for short trips it might be doable if it was the Transit chassis. The biggest drawback would be the sliding door. Anyone with a minivan knows the sliding door issues - stuck in cold, stuck with dog fur, stuck with glacier silt. I owned a Toyota Sienna the one with sliding doors on both sides, and by the time it gave up the ghost both sliding doors and the back hatch no longer operated all due to gunk build up. Sooooo frustrating lol!
I do appreciate the work ethos of this company and just the simple attention to detail. Impressive!
Thank you for your honest opinion! Like what you have to say!
Yep, more on classes b and c would be really helpful.
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I was just watching a show last night on high end class Bs. Appreciate your deep drive on the subject.
My pleasure!!
We have owned a Pleasure-Way Ontour 2.0 (Ford Transit based) for three years now. No issues. Outstanding build. Great support from the manufacturer. (First time RV owner and had a lot of questions.) Easy to drive in traffic and on the highway. Love it!
They seem a true cut above
My take is that they’re so much more expensive because it’s likely a more durable build (vs a wooden box on a van chassis.) The Pleasure Way Tofino is my dream camper, and I wish more manufacturers did a floor plan like that one!
Hey Uncle Josh! Beautiful coach indeed. The only thing I would be VERY concerned with are the counter top corner(s) by the entrance door. I'm NO engineer by far, but I could see someone getting really stabbed by the corners even by just entering the coach they should be rounded off if possible. Same by the dining area the corners should be rounded off.
Just my $0.02 cents worth!
We appreciate you teaching us new things, and how you explain it all in a clear and fair way!
Thx Moe!
Also, I’d choose the elbow room width over the 12V 💯%
Not a mistake 😊
Ty
Actually what makes some class B more appealing is luxury with all necessities that you can park anywhere a car can.
Airstream could learn a lot from Pleasure-Way quality.
Love the quality!
I always figured that the price tag was largely based in the diesel engine. They are just more expensive than a gas engine. If I am remembering correctly they will give you more miles but they are more expensive to work on and to fuel up. Also the Mercedes name in and of itself ups the price. I was glad to see the quality inside. I’m no expert just a mechanics daughter.
12:22.... Pure gold. Thanks for the laugh Josh. Nerd power!
We all know it'll happen
Yes! Class B's! Thanks for the review. I'm so glad to have your prospective on these.
Enjoy!
Pleasure way is a quality product!
I was truly impressed!
Always love your videos !!! ❤
Thank you so much!!
Great walkthrough and you are spot on regarding Pleasure Way and some other Canadian RV companies (Leisure Travel) truly focus on quality and thoughtful touches. Super pricey but will last for a long, long time.
LTV is solid stuff as well. Roadtrek also comes to mind.
They build better quality ones in Australia. Greater variety of chassis and vastly greater number of manufacturers
Very informative video. Thank you!
You're very welcome!
Thanks for the insights.
My pleasure!
Really cool video. ❤ Thanks Josh!
Glad you liked it!
This is a very nice class B. It has a nice size refrigerator. Wet bath looks nice size. Not bad at all! Thank you Josh for showing this class B.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks Nerd!
Awesome video Josh.... Thank you!
My pleasure!
This would be a dream to own. Lots of storage for the size.👍
I was really impressed with the craftsmanship
Good info Josh. Like usual. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Modular wiring is really nice. Just started playing the video so we'll see if that is mentioned.
Thanks Josh…great information.
My pleasure :)
Josh at 12:20 demonstrating why you need more fiber in your diet. Another great video man. Much appreciated.
PS: Josh, ask them if they can install an upscale passenger side recliner with foot rest that extends when you recline and has massage, cool and heat capability. I can't tell you how much this would convince spouses to justify the high price tag. Husband could be driving and wife could be taking a luxury nap to destination. It could also be another overnight sleeping chair in a pinch if your taking an extra passenger.
You left me shiver with antici……
Love it. Yes, please more B and C review
TY Karen
Love Pleasure Way! I’m not a B Van person but if I were I definitely love the Pleasure Way.
Fair enough!
Great stuff 👍 thanks for sharing. ✌ GOD bless America 🇺🇲
Thanks 👍
Great video!
Thanks!
Great explanation and walk thru.
TY
This perspective is something I really needed to understand. Thanks, "Durd!"
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Appreciate all info:)
My pleasure!
@@JoshtheRVNerd ...way
Wow, that is a fantastically done camper van!
Truly is
People are buying reliablity quality and they hold their value really well plus safety is another reason they are well worth a look at excellent company
Thanks Nerd
This was an awesome intro to class b vans and Pleasure Way.
Thank you for watching!
good info and interesting. WOW on the cabinet work. Ihave been on some 1/4 mil class "A"s that had contact paper peeing off the cabinetry! You get what you pay for (sometimes).
Absolutely
Very well done. I am looking at a Pleasure way Ontour 2.2 and this was super helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
I have a 2022 Ontour 2.2 and while I am very happy with it, I am also very happy to see that that they have made better use of the kitchen storage space so the newer models have a LOT more storage in the kitchen.
YES - Pleasure-Way makes an Awsome product!!! And Josh you did a fantastic job pointing out most all of what diferenciates Pleasure-Way from other manufacturers. After owning many travel trailers and a Class-C we decided in 2020 to purchase a new Pleasure-Way but could not find a new one... So we bought a used Pleasure-Way 2019 Lexor TS... It is such a solid product and so well made... We absolutely love it 😊
TY! I feel like I'm still a novice about them but have enjoyed learning what I could where I could
Yes... Yes... Yes... Me too 😊 I could not find a new one so I purchase a 2019 Lexor TS and if is awsome. It is unfortunate that they don't make the Lexor any more.
Like that you're branching out! Now to do an Escape, Bigfoot, Casita, or Scamp!
I'm always trying to get newer stuff! :)
I just bought a 2024 Pleasure-Way TS, yesterday in-fact. You really need to do a comparison between the 23 and the 24, so much has changed. All for the better. The quality is still there but the new AC unit, 600 Amps, new 12V fridge, Mercedes 2 Litre diesel, etc. ,etc. make it that much better.
I'll keep an eye out. TY
Hello , congratulations on your new PW. I looked at one yesterday on both 23/24. I didn’t know 24 has a smaller diesel engine. But would it be weaker as well? Also, I thought the TS is AWD but turned out a RWD. 😊
@@quinhon1969 I understand the new engine specifications shows more power and is lighter and more fuel efficient than the old 6 cylinder. It is also mated to a 9 speed transmission so it feels considerably quicker. Pleasure-way does build a class b on a Ford Transit AWD chassis as well as the Mercedes. I drove both and preferred the Mercedes.
Wow, that is very interesting. A 2.0L engine is now stronger than a 3.0+L engine. However, I have heard its upkeep is quite high. In addition, I wish it was a AWD so you don’t get stuck in the mud. One more useful option both chassises do not offer is the leveling jacks. I am curious why they don’t offer such useful feature.
@@quinhon1969 If you take a look at all the gear that is suspended under the chassis like tanks and generator and hitch, etc., there’s very little room for another system. I just got back from a month touring in her and never felt I needed a self levelling system.
I know this would add another $10k to an already expensive unit, but I wonder if RV companies could partner with the auto manufacturers to utilize the batteries in these Class Bs into the drive train to make a hybrid system. From what I've seen online, Class B people tend to do a lot of Boondocking, especially in cities and more urban places, so the few extra mpg savings could go a long way. And since Class Bs are already loaded with batteries and already heavy, all the manufacturer would need to do is just add regen braking, hybrid gear box, and electric motor.
For example: Ford could take the PowerBoost hybrid system, put it into the Transit chassis, and have instructions for the RV manufacturer to connect the last wires to their batteries. Granted, this is all probably 1,000 times easier said than done. I'm just spit balling here.
Stuff like this is being explored now by a few builders actually
I don't personally foresee "eRVs" becoming a mainstream thing but there is reason to think they might start entering the conversation at some point
@@JoshtheRVNerd That's interesting to hear. Yeah, were a long ways away in battery technology for "eRVs" to practical, let alone exist period. A hybrid would be interesting way to add more incentive, especially if the fuel cost equals or exceeds comparable trailers being towed by a gasoline 1/2 ton or HD truck. Hopefully an insider will give you the chance to be the first to get a peak when it happens.
Nice class B van😊😊👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you! 😃
@@JoshtheRVNerd you bet😊👍
Thanks for all that info! I always wondered why they cost so much. A lot of attn to detail. I would really like a class B, I like the ease of it. But I don't like the price tag. I have a feeling finding a used one isn't going to be easy. And still expensive.
So, I continue to hem and haw over other choices.
They're not all built quite like THIS one but I think it made for a good example
"Turbo lag" is the term you were looking for when you were describing the delay between putting your foot down on the accelerator and it takes a few seconds for it to respond. BTW, I had no idea what the price was on this when you started the video when you said they were expensive. As soon as you stepped in I could tell fit and finish already were superior to the towable stuff. Don't get me wrong, a lot of the trailers look very good, but this one is just on another level. This would be even better for road trips for solo or even couples, you could park this one almost anywhere.
Yeah these are some of the most well crafted of all the B’s out there from what I’ve seen
Thanks nerd!
This is what I've been waiting for Josh, excellent video. I've been camping all my life and at 71 I'm getting tired of the work, I want to get in the driver's seat, turn the key and go. Been looking at Pleasure-Way for a long time, it's exactly what I want. However a bit put off at the price and I refuse to buy when when demand is so high. I think this is starting to change, these are not selling immediately when they are produced, and at least in my area inventory is beginning to increase. I'm watching the market carefully, when I see signs of possible dealer incentives I will make my move. Again, great video, exactly what I've been waiting for.
For a "turn the key" road trip adventure these would be amazing for sure.
Pleasure-Way is the only mainstream B van I would even consider buying due to their superior build quality. However, they definitely aren't perfect, no mass produced RV is perfect. They all cut corners/cost somewhere, whether it be the the electronics, insulation, heater/AC, appliances, etc. There is always some aspect of it that is lacking. Given the crazy high price of these vans, I would probably pass on all of them and order a van from a high quality low volume custom upfitter instead. That way you can have the exact features you want, not just what the company wants to sell you to maximize their profit.
They really are built differently
You can see it and feel it
I'd need more info on the fridge question, like how much width would be given up. Nine times out of ten I'll go for the 12v fridge, but if it's significantly intrusive the walkway needs to remain certified bazookabutt-fluffy-friendly. I believe I saw a cassette toilet panel when you were looking at the driver's side; is that correct?
Yes
My wife and I had a 2015 Mercedes sedan. Had it 3 months. Took it in for its first oil change, and had to leave 10 $100 bills before I left.
My wife and I no longer have a 2015 Mercedes sedan.
Really, did you paid 1k for an oil change? Did you have to take it to the dealer or were it done by auto shop? That crazy!
@@Sammy.goNavy70: Dealer. $695 for oil change, $200 for new filters, and we found out the big battery( it was one of this hybrid pieces of shi-shi that would shut off at stop lights, then fire back up when hitting the throttle) anyway, the big battery was at 80%…
We paid 16,000 cash for the car, guess how much that damned battery cost when it comes time to replace? Several grand!!
I’ll stick to my Old Ford pickemup, my Toyota Camry, and my wife’s Toyota Corolla!
Driving a Mercedes just to say you “own a Mercedes” is… Foolish. We paid 16, my lovely little wife, who is Nepali, and counts EVERY penny turned around and sold it for 18!
I cannot believe you took a used Mercedes to a dealer for an oil change or ANY maintenance. Far, far, FAR cheaper to find a good foreign car mechanic you like and pay 1/10th the money. With more personal service, usually.
@@karenburrows9184: Far Far better to not own one at all. We had just bought it, wanted to make sure all was good. We SOLD it and have never looked back. Relax, it’s ok! We got educated… And we made a couple grand.
@@TERoss-jk9ny Always good to be able to walk away with cash. Harsh lessons .....
I don't have any comments on this, I just want to congratulate you on continuing to grow your subscribers.
Thank you so much 😀
#Nerdherder. Thanks Papa Nerd.
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Many Transits offer dual heavy duty alternators from the factory.
They do - very true. I still see plenty that do not and many people don’t know the difference
Thanks d-erd 😅 2:32
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If I had $200,000 to spend on a Class B camper van, this would be on my top 3 list👍but I don’t😢
Former subscriber who lost you along the way. But I'm back like a bad penny 😂
Welcome back!
Love the minimum space requirement. That’s a good hill to die on.
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Thanks for clarifying why class Bs are so expensive. I would never get a Mercedes engine, just my choice, too costly for repairs. I think for 1 to 2 people, the camper vans are ok, but for a family, that's way too small.
There’s another channel called Meet the Russo’s who have camped in both the Sprinter (diesel) and Ford’s Transit (gas) class B’s. They did a comparison of the two vehicles. They preferred the Ford overall. Paraphrasing what they said about the Ford: taller headroom, more power and constant speed going up long steep highways, comfortable to drive-like driving a car and they said there are more Ford repair facilities than Mercedes cross country. Somethings to consider.
Those are all features I also prefer on the Ford chassis. I think I like the Promaster and Transit best on these B's
Hi, I looked at both PW MB diesel (TS) Ford Transit (Ontour.) MB has the Adaptive Cruise Control (which for me is a must-have feature nowadays. However, Ford does not have Adaptive Cruise, which is almost a deal-killer for me. On the hand, I like Ford AWD capability and the MB is only a RWD. If they are offered at the same price, which do you think is a better buy (AWD with no ACC vs RWD with ACC)? Thank you.
You are so knowledgeable. Could you help me buy one of these. I am 70 year old male that is going to travel the country and live in this full time. Thanks Mike
Hi Mike! I am not in sales myself, but our team members could assist you, of course
If you were a single man that was going to live in this van full-time which one would you buy
Still I don't get it why there is so much difference in between class B from the US and Europe🤔
For 50 to 70k€ you get a pretty descent 20ft van from PÖSSL, Pilote, Adria, Campereve and more...
Gets even better in Australia. Something like 35 outfitters of B's plus chassis's you do not get in Europe
Josh can You figure us out a motorhome or one of these that can pull our boat. It's around 9,800 lbs. I REALLY would Appreciate it so much. I am exhausted 😩 😪 looking at ALL the ones I've TRIED to research. We also have 3 Furbabies.. Thank You in Advance Josh. LOVE YOUR HONEST VIDEOS...
Do your own homework
Please don't trap 3 animals inside this tiny unit. Remember that Mercedes forbids the electronics add on that will start the engine to run the second generator that would keep pets cool if you are out of unit. It's not the diesel engine that's driving this price. Look at a long sprinter price before the mod and you will see most of this price is the teeny tiny conversion.
For that kind of weight you’re in big diesel country
The kind of motorhome needed to haul 9800lbs would have plenty of pet space so no worries there :)
You’ll need to have a $200,000-$300,000 budget😬
My high school guidance counselor told me that I would have to study astronomy. His exact words were, "If you go to college you'll be taking up space."
how accurate were they? 🤔
@Josh the RV Nerd at Bish's RV 105% with a 5% margin of error.
@@mikesarno7973 Because as my high school gym teacher told us.. you can only give 110% max...
Hi, why Ford 2023/2024 chassis does not have Adaptive Cruise Control for this RV.
I don’t know it’s kind of surprising
You had the “bed” down so quick but didn’t specify if it was fluffy friendly. Could you sleep comfortably???
I didn't really try it on for size. Apologies.
That's a very subjective thing. I really recommend seeing one in person and deciding for yourself
They all look so clean and shiny. It probably doesn't take long for them to get trashed, if they are put together with glue and staples.
Would be great if there was either AWD or 4X4 option...
You're not the first to mention it. Where would you take her?
@@JoshtheRVNerd Even Snow, ice even on paved roads. I don't even drive my RWD car in snow or ice.
Mercedes-BenzG🙋♂️☕🍞🥗🥘🍚🍽
Don't know why, but I don't like these units with the sofa/bed units int he back. It looks good for traveling, but not sleeping.
I suspect you’re right
Fortunately, these vans are available using the Ford chassis
Hopefully they are gas? Diesel smell is nauseating
Did I miss what the warranty is for this model?
I don't think I covered that actually. All new Pleasure-Way motorhomes are backed by a 5-Year Warranty covering defects in material and craftsmanship, on portions manufactured by Pleasure-Way Industries Ltd. under normal use and service.
• Coverage - 5 years or
• 60,000 miles / 100,000 kms
• Limited Warranty
No horn honking??? 😄
Not inside with customers right there :)
I can't afford one of those but I can afford a travel trailer and truck. There is no reason for these to be that expensive.
How much in American dollars?
Drop a note to our oregon store - they can assist you with these. I'm not in sales myself. Apologies
The Mercedes is a deal breaker. Ford!!!
To each their own. The low tow rating of the ford is a deal breaker for me. I can't go camping/traveling with my toys if the van can't pull the toys.
@@POSRockCrawler Absolutely incredible how low the tow rating on the Ford Transit is
I’m still confused. Pleasureway is obviously a very high quality unit which helps explain the long waiting lists.
But Class Bs from Thor and Winnebago are in the same price range and ai doubt that they are the same level of quality from those builders. And their prices are in line with the larger class B motorhomes that they build.
A Mercedes Sprinter Crew van long WB high roof, HO diesel engine 2WD 4500 series is an MSRP of $66,000. I very much doubt that the builders of these vans are paying MSRP. The ProMaster is cheaper but only by around $6k or so it would seem.
That Plateau looks like about a $184,795 MSRP.
Compared to higher end and much larger Class C’s it’s just hard to understand why this is so expensive. Given that a Class C seems to need a LOT more materials and work to create compared to this. Is it that because your forces into modifying a completed chassis that the man hours to build it are a lot greater?
When I made this video I felt like it made sense. And looking at this coach.. it does
But then I started looking at other B's and I went right back to having the same feeling you've shared here. I think in making my pleasure-way video I kinda got off topic and never really finished the original idea of the video
No way would I buy Mercedes. My mother in law has one. Scotty Kilmer is absolutely correct. Endless money pits. Can’t even change brake pads without special computer. 8000$. Engine and transmission usually good. Just everything else.
Better off buying a basic Sprinter van and building it out yourself. If you have the ability you can get pretty much the same thing at more than half the price.
I think with any job if you can cut out the labor cost, then you'll save. That's true in just about anything.
That is beautiful. Even though it has a propane-anus. 😆 Thanks Nerd.
Super important 😆
I mean idk why anyone would say they are more expensive than anything else.
When you buy a travel trailer then a truck to tow it with its pretty comparable honestly. Let’s say 50-60k (some 70k+) for a truck and the rv would have to be high end to match that of most b vans so let’s say 60-90k. When you realize your buying both a vehicle and a RV the price dosnt seem really high when you consider the specific market these units are apart of. Idk just logic for me wouldn’t consider them “high priced or overpriced”
I can’t afford one but still it logically makes sense why they cost what they cost
I just think the main issue is consumers don’t understand or do any real research into what they buy and it’s sad. And that goes for almost every market it’s not specific to the Rv market.
I think that’s why most RVs are built to a price point or a weight rating vs actually high quality built to last. People just buy what the best deal is and don’t consider how it’s built or how long it will last.
At least that’s my perspective ever since I’ve been hunting for my perfect RV. Just to many “ultra lite, sticker wrapped, lightweight” units on the market. And all these buzz words to me say “do not buy if you want to keep it long term”
I may be the minority and assume I am since I’ve still yet to find a absolute perfect Rv in my eyes to date after going on 2.5 years of basically daily research.
This is why I think I can’t find something I would actually want to own in every aspect. Some are close but I can always find something I’d consider a weak point in every Rv produced today in 2023. At least for the specific small compact bunkhouse I desire. I can’t speak for other sections of the market as I know what I want and if it doesn’t meet that I ignore it totally.
Just not true as you can buy a class C for less in many cases.
@@DAVIDTATLITUG you may be correct however you are misunderstanding the entire point.
The b is higher because of the specific category it falls into. It’s smaller for a reason and due to that the engineering behind it requires much much more consideration and thought.
It’s similar to how electronics act. Smaller more compact results in a overall more expensive product. That takes longer to engineer and produce by the people who build them.
Smaller space/footprint = increased resources = higher cost. Not just in the Rv market but many others as well.
While your statement may be accurate you have completely ignored the logic behind mine 🤷♂️
The Price?…. Still way to expensive .
You want to go expensive class B go to ARV
Please find a 2023 wonder. You do the absolute best job presenting this unit. The pleasure way guy is highly insulting.
Sorry you feel that way. I will do what I can
Founded in 1986? That was around the end of one of the worst periods for the RV industry.
Regardless of how they are built, spending $100-$200k+ for a van just does not seem smart to me. I think a lot of rich (many temporarily) "tech bros" bought / buy these to do the "#vanlife" remote work thing, How long will that fad last? And they are so skinny....you're cooped up like sardines in there when the weather is bad. Something tells me that this high priced van trend will end badly. Maybe the Government will bail out the underwater buyers. But, hey...its a personal choice and its your money.
I respect that viewpoint for sure
The color of the wood is depressing I hate it
Tell us how you really feel, homie.
That's a good reason to justify not being able to spend all that money.
@@karenburrows9184: Plenty able. But bragging about blowing $ to look cool makes one look like a “fool”.
Our 3 year old house is paid off, our ‘17 Camry is paid off, as well as Corolla and pick up. So… Getting rid of a car that only gets more expensive as you own it allows you to pay off said items above.
BTW: You can’t hurt my feelings, I don’t have any! Have a great day!!
@@TERoss-jk9ny Not you, dude. Tony Rappa. Read his post for a laugh.
@@karenburrows9184: OH! I already commented on that and never looked back. My bad!:(
These vans are overpriced not because they're hand crafted it's because of demand! People don't want to drive a big motorhome because it scares them, and these van manufacturers know it, so the price reflects the demand! Think about it most rvs being built from the ground up have a lot more process's , but a van is a box with lipstick lol it has all the same features as a big motorhomes except a lot less of them! Van manufacturers know you want them, so thier going to stick it to you! Stop buying them, and the prices will come down
Now your are just giving us the FOX news version. They are not worth that type of money. There are class B's that have huge lithium packages that don't cost this much. I've seen these vans and the largest versions. Sure they are nice packages but c'mon. Let's talk about what they don't have.