I agree. I think it would be really helpful somehow testing same irons with someone with 80-85 mph 7iron speed. Yes, younger players can get to 90 plus, but the players at my club who have money (1500-2000) to spend are little older and still good but 80-85
I appreciate the content but the people interested in buying the AI300 game improvement iron is NOT swinging a 7 iron at 92mph. Not sure why you keep doing this. How about an average player with average swing speeds doing the testing? So frustrating
Watching someone at a lower speed still means nothing, unless you have an identical path and AOA. This video still shows the relative performance difference between each model. Before dropping $1500 it still makes sense to go hit them yourself and get fit.
From some of these videos i watched of people who tested it,the faster your clubhead speed the more forgiving they are,however i watched a video where someone with a 15 to 20 handicap hit these and the forgivness was unreal even though they had slower clubhead speeds
@@nonfortiscedtenax1893 that couldn't be more false. You can order the club with any number of no upcharge shafts and they'll work for any golfer. They'll be a great fit for some and less so for others, just like every other club.
The Ai200 looks great, that would be my choice. In my bag are the 2021 T100S irons and they're not leaving until the grooves wear out! great combo of feel & forgiveness and a thin top line. 32 deg. 7 iron. The 7 iron of these Ai200 is 30 deg, so basically in between my 6 and 7 iron. nice boost of distance. Callaway maybe my choice when i need to replace my irons in about 4-5 years
With the Ti Fusion irons face being titanium, which is stronger and more durable, won’t the grooves last longer? If so anyone who can afford to buy them shouldn’t have to worry about replacing them for longer right?
The erratic variable in all these comparisons is the golfer. Some swings are great and others less so. Why not put these clubs(irons, driver's, etc) on an Iron Byron and you would get a precise scientific comparison and see what differences each club really does or doesn't do. Can also dial in varying clubhead speeds such as 80, 85, 90 ,95 mph. Can swap out shaft flexes, etc. A spread sheet would then tell us which club is best with which shaft for a given swing speed. Then we could determine which club works best for our individual swing speed. Showing us on a video that club A "feels heavier" or Club B "feels softer" are subjective assessments. You can easily have the "swing weight" adjusted at a good fitter. Swing speed differs from golfer to golfer and even with the same golfer. So I'd like to see the same comparison like this but introduce data with the Iron Byron set to the same clubhead speed as the tester.
Thanks for watching!! Yes of course, the perfect club test would include robot testing. Unfortunately a robot tester is not in our budget! We hope our combination of experience and expertise can still educate golfers about new equipment and club fitting.
Please, please, please test these clubs with someone that doesn’t swing a 90 mph 7 iron! It tells me nothing as an older player, 75 mph swing speed will change everything, spin, ball speed ect. Majority of players can’t hit a 200 yard 7 iron, if so I would like to see their bag and all the short irons and wedges. Let’s get real guys!
I agree. I think it would be really helpful somehow testing same irons with someone with 80-85 mph 7iron speed. Yes, younger players can get to 90 plus, but the players at my club who have money (1500-2000) to spend are little older and still good but 80-85
Great review. I expected the Ti Fusion to be the longest, but not so much. Thanks for reviewing these clubs so quickly after launch.
Thanks for watching!!
These clubs are so good and consistent. the TM clubs were all over the place for me and CC vids prove it too.
This Apex series definitely seems like a winner
I appreciate the content. Keep up the good work
Thanks for watching!
I appreciate the content but the people interested in buying the AI300 game improvement iron is NOT swinging a 7 iron at 92mph. Not sure why you keep doing this. How about an average player with average swing speeds doing the testing? So frustrating
Watching someone at a lower speed still means nothing, unless you have an identical path and AOA. This video still shows the relative performance difference between each model. Before dropping $1500 it still makes sense to go hit them yourself and get fit.
70-80 more likely ?
From some of these videos i watched of people who tested it,the faster your clubhead speed the more forgiving they are,however i watched a video where someone with a 15 to 20 handicap hit these and the forgivness was unreal even though they had slower clubhead speeds
@@brandonerdman4160 Do you remember where you saw that?
@@nonfortiscedtenax1893 that couldn't be more false. You can order the club with any number of no upcharge shafts and they'll work for any golfer. They'll be a great fit for some and less so for others, just like every other club.
The Ai200 looks great, that would be my choice. In my bag are the 2021 T100S irons and they're not leaving until the grooves wear out! great combo of feel & forgiveness and a thin top line. 32 deg. 7 iron. The 7 iron of these Ai200 is 30 deg, so basically in between my 6 and 7 iron. nice boost of distance. Callaway maybe my choice when i need to replace my irons in about 4-5 years
Thanks for watching! Ai200 could be a great option for you indeed.
How do they compare, especially the TiFusion, to the Apex Pro from last year?
How would the Ti Fusion compare to the APEX PRO? Thx
Ti Fusion will be a little hotter and more distance-oriented than the Apex Pro. That inclusion of titanium is the big differentiator
The irons look too short for Jake or am I wrong ? How close are these to Dynapower, Dynapower forged ?
With the Ti Fusion irons face being titanium, which is stronger and more durable, won’t the grooves last longer? If so anyone who can afford to buy them shouldn’t have to worry about replacing them for longer right?
clear winner.... ai300 by far in terms of consistency and dispersion
It's a great iron, no doubt!
The erratic variable in all these comparisons is the golfer. Some swings are great and others less so.
Why not put these clubs(irons, driver's, etc) on an Iron Byron and you would get a precise scientific comparison and see what differences each club really does or doesn't do.
Can also dial in varying clubhead speeds such as 80, 85, 90 ,95 mph. Can swap out shaft flexes, etc. A spread sheet would then tell us which club is best with which shaft for a given swing speed. Then we could determine which club works best for our individual swing speed.
Showing us on a video that club A "feels heavier" or Club B "feels softer" are subjective assessments.
You can easily have the "swing weight" adjusted at a good fitter. Swing speed differs from golfer to golfer and even with the same golfer.
So I'd like to see the same comparison like this but introduce data with the Iron Byron set to the same clubhead speed as the tester.
Thanks for watching!! Yes of course, the perfect club test would include robot testing. Unfortunately a robot tester is not in our budget! We hope our combination of experience and expertise can still educate golfers about new equipment and club fitting.
Have Bella test the irons.🤔
that TI fusion is going to be the cheat code
It will go further when it a massively stronger loft that a tradition lofted 7 which is 34/35 degrees these are 29 ai300 and 30 ai200
Please, please, please test these clubs with someone that doesn’t swing a 90 mph 7 iron! It tells me nothing as an older player, 75 mph swing speed will change everything, spin, ball speed ect. Majority of players can’t hit a 200 yard 7 iron, if so I would like to see their bag and all the short irons and wedges. Let’s get real guys!
I am more interested in Jake’s music taste and whether is better than Drew’s. Lol😂
Oh and great video as always.
LOL, his taste in music is probably better than mine 😂 thanks for watching!
Would like to see 7 iron tested at 75mph, i swing my driver at 92mph