I don’t worry about paying attention b/c my Apples have excellent communication skills. Right after I played some random podcasts from a very old iPod 📱 must’ve received ota them because next video I closed, RUclips’s app was recommending the next video from the same series in my YT channel list.
In the UK youd be lucky to find an unopened tin of beans! Shops did used to just chuck stuff out but now to stop dumpster divers they smash everything up and pour water over it. Only great find ive had is I used to live on a brand new estate with million pound houses with housing association connected (only way to get the contract). Anyway a guy was chucking loadsa stuff out in 2 skips, i got 3 designer suits, 2 pairs timberlands, a toughbook, sony camcorder no charger, tag h watch, tons of other stuff and a coffee maker worth £600. The guy was a famous motorbike rider (no idea myself) and was cleaning out getting ready to go back to his other home abroad (not a good idea telling strangers that lol).
Can't understand why people throw away PCs with hard drives filled with personal data (and even without the minimum protection like this). The previous owner of that laptop need to thank you for erasing that SSD. And nice score with that SSD by the way :)
That's how you give birth to voyeur priv8 p0rn on the interweb. Knowing Dave's lab is in an office building, the guy who tossed that thing probably never heard of NDA and IP security at all.
Just people that dont understand how it works, i read a story of a guy who bought a laptop and claimed he found an old dell laptop instead of the one he bought so he got a full refund. the IT guys as the bestbuy just popped out the hdd and found his pics and data. people jsut assume "welp the laptop is broken" and everything on it is lost
some people only know how to turn on their laptop, start a browser and go on social media, if then this laptop dies, you can't expect them to know that there is something like a hard drive and that you can open it and take it out, let alone format it if it doesn't turn on.
Not everyone is tech savvy, even if they managed to install SSD into it, though they also might have gotten someone else to do it. Anyway, quite a lot of people, when PC or something dies, don't really know what failed, because they see laptop or PC as one unit and think that this is it, its dead, so it is fine. Yeah, it sounds bit funny for anyone tech savvy, but vast majority of users, just know how to use PC for general stuff and it ends there. So if I took a guess considering the damage, it could have easily be that owner thought that drive was dead with laptop. Plus people don't really think about security that much. Like even working in support, I had plenty of moments when people would just tell me their password to check their issue out and I didn't even ask for it, I just told them I can't access everything in their account directly for obvious privacy reasons. So yeah, you can't really know how much previous owner even knew about privacy. I nuke my drives when I stop using them. But I have even seen plenty of used builds where they maybe just deleted few files and left bunch of stuff behind or left it easy to recover.
These motherboards are often separate from the IO board so that they can use the same exact board for multiple different chassis. It also has the nice side effect of broken USB ports being easy to replace for those who aren't capable of soldering. By the looks of it based on the shape, that particular board could have been also designed with the possibility of the cooler assembly pointed to the other side. While definitely not the most spectacular machine there is, awesome find especially because of that SSD. These 850PRO drives were the top end of 'prosumer' range a few years back and they are almost indestructible write-wise. EDIT: You can also see the unpopulated SATA ODD connector right behind the fan on your current config!
Holy cow, you're right! That whole space was meant for the ODD. You can see a curved cutout on the other side where the speaker is; that was where the fan was meant to go. The board was designed for a completely different laptop!
No need to replace this inductor, that is only used to pass FCC. I would just use a jumper. The internal design of this Toshiba doesn't look professional and does not look as good as my previous 2 Toshiba notebooks. Probably this division was sold to somebody else, total not Toshiba design style.
You can really tell most of these cheaper model laptops from this era (and even into today) are designed by the same ODM. That internal layout is extremely similar to the Dell 3000 series laptops. It's like a flat board of plastic on the bottom with all the components just thrown around and bolted onto, and then covered by a clamshell bubble.
Yes. Internal layout, connectors and pcb material are all crappy. Similiar or worse than china made one! Toshiba brand , just kidding...Samsung is better.
To all the people trashing this machine, I'll take it in aheart beat. I love these old Toshibas as they are generally fixable one way or another. No problem with screens or drives or RAM. The boards are usually accessible and can be figured out. And they ALL use the same power connector.
@@georgedemean2228 I'd imagine the person who through it out (the owner I guess) didn't realise the value inside. I'd guess that the owner brought it to some independent shop and they said yea nah its stuffed mate, then the owner gave it the chuck. All we can do is guess but the fact is - it got chucked even though it was a simple fix
850 Pro 512GB, shit, that's worth the effort right there! Older but who cares, basically all modern SATA drives run the same speed anyway, and those things are bullet proof. They'll write enormous amounts of data before problems - not like the early days of SSD's. I've seen consumer grade Samsung SATA SSD's write over a petabyte (on a 512GB drive) before entering read-only mode. That's like an order of magnitude more than their warranty. Most normal PC users won't even get a fraction of the way towards the total bytes written warranty on modern-ish SSD's.
SSD's worth ~$100 at most, probably less. OP'ed on eBay. Reason is that a new 860 Pro's ~$200, and you can get a 970 Pro (NVMe) for the same price, or regular NVMe's for half the price but they're not as reliable as a Sammy Pro.
@@netii126 Truth is most used SSD's are not worth buying anyway. One found in the dumpster thats actually good and not used up (close to max TB written) is a nice find. When you find them for sale as a used SSD they tend to be at or near their max TB written spec, and so are not worth a penny unless you just like buying a junk storage device that will fail soon anyway. Dave should check theSMART data for TB written, failed sectors count, read & write errors. I would toss it if any of the SMART data looks suspect.
Dude you are so lucky to have that dumpster or whatever (I live in the UK and have never come across anything like that, but I guess it's just a big bin). I don't have the money to buy a laptop and my current one weighs (not even an exaggeration) 4x that one and has 2GiB ram and a celeron rubbish CPU.
Old toshibas are great. Just restored my old toshiba Satellite Pro L770-14N (approx. 10 years) and upgraded it massively. These PCs have great upgradeability and are excellent workhorses. If it wasn't that old, this PC would get a hell of a review from me. But I think, braging to strangers on the internet will do ;)
Currently also using an 850 pro, really good SSD, With it, the SATA bus is effectively the bottleneck. They have an m.2 version that uses the same NAND chips and controller that gets around 1.2GB/s reads, and around 700-800MB/s writes. I currently use it as a working drive for large video files that I am editing, as well as a game drive. My main SSD is a Samsung 970 Pro 512GB, for most tasks compared to when I used the 850 pro as the main drive, the 970 pro did not boost performance, but the massive boost in read and write speed helps when I need to work with uncompressed video, e.g. needing to go from davinci resolve to after effects. Outside of that, the 850 pro works great.
I wonder if the missing screw had been left laying around lose inside, or worked lose, then found it's way over to one end of that inductor, where it promptly shorted and let the smoke escape?
Nice. I did a similar thing just last week for my nephew. His 2 girls are doing the home schooling thing and needed another machine. I had an older laptop but no power supply so I cut the lead off a reasonably compatible supply and wired it in directly.
The color of tin on the inductor which is should be silver has becomes brown, it is impossible will happen if there is no "short circuit" in high current. Anyways, at the charger/adapter there is a protector when short circuit occurs. So how do you think Dave?
Could you parallel 2 of these inductors in order to increase the maximum amount of current, just in case if you didn't have another more suited one? Or why would it work with a lead, doesn't it need the inductance? Maybe the power from the power supply is too "dirty" otherwise, with lots of ripple or whatever that the machine might not like? I mean, they didn't put the inductor in there without a reason, I would think?
4:05 I believe they have the cables routed around that way so they can use that MB on different form factor computers. You can see for example the cut out on the left for left side fan placement. I haven't worked for a Toshiba MSP since 2014, but I know that Dell does that a lot. If there's a 15" and 17" version, this is often how it's done. 11:58 Yes, that screw comes through the back cover. It's a great way to save on your BOM cost on low end devices like these. I hate the complete hack job whoever installed that SSD did. It's really not that hard to get a screwdriver from somewhere and transfer the screws from the old one.
And having connectors on separate boards makes replacement easy if you damage a port. A good example of that is the power connector on my dell inspiron 13. Its plugged in via a short cable, 2min job to replace. Dell even give you the disassembly/service manual.
By all I have seen, it seems that the screws inside the machines often are only placed in the marked holes (you may see the little arrow next to the hole with a screw, it is missing around the holes without a screw)
@@Okurka. Then you are technically illiterate and you have my condolences. Obviously you're strawman argumenting about 500GB vs 512GB, even though they both literally have the same amount of Flash memory inside them (512GiB), and neither of them actually represent the final capacity after formatting, they both just use different ways of calculating the number they put on the box based on capacity overprovisioning from the factory. But it's alright, you can continue being proudly wrong, it doesn't change the fact you are just wrong, and nobody else cares! Everyone wins.
@@Okurka. Both drives have the same amount of Flash memory inside them. You cannot argue that, because it's factually true. If you aren't talking about the literal factual amount of Flash memory inside it, then what the fuck are you talking about? Becuase NEITHER of the drives are 512GB formatted capacity, so you're still wrong if you say they make a 500GB or a 512GB one. You didn't actually provide any evidence for your bs, because you know you're wrong and you have nothing to show.
Talking about the board layout, missing the part where the same board is used in both 15" and 17" machines, and this one is extended out more due to 17"
I'm not sure if anybody knows, but recenlty a lot of videos about laptop "restorations" started popping up in my recommended feed. Most of those videos are shot somewhere in Southeast Asia, a bunch of guys "accidenatlly" find a trashed laptop with broken and missing parts and the whole thing is covered in mud. They film the whole process of the "restoration", but they don't even know what the hell they're doing. They scrub violently the board with brushes, they use a cheap ass analouge multimeter and probe some pins on the board and that's it. After that, they assemble the whole laptop and miraculously works ! It's not only the laptops, they also "fix" old phones, computer screens, toys, speakers, anything. How the hell those guys gain millions of views and subscribers ?
Solidarity from France. We cant dumpster dive here at the moment. This video is typical of my 'diving' experience. Laptops for everyone, family members get free upgrades.
I know exactly why that drive wasn't mounted down - the bracket that originally held the hard drive wouldn't fit properly with the SSD. I've done replacements like this on similar laptops, and they never fit - orientation ends up being wrong, or the SSD mounting holes are lower down than on the HDD, or some other simple stupid issue. Last laptop I did this job on, I used strips of packing foam and packed it in around it, worked a charm.
It would have been great if you explain in details what this inductor was used for, what happens if you use a higher and lower one (we are 2 beginner following since years, interested about electronic without having studying it)
Doesn't matter when it was made. You just do a SMART readout, and you can read power on hours and write endurance wear. What idiot does a drive uprade without a retainer cage though. That's nasty. Not even a piece of VHB tape to secure the drive a bit? And probably lost all manner of screws in the process.
I had a MacBook Pro 2012 with a gray screen. Almost looked as if it was stuck on the EFI boot screen. Ended up being a bad inductor by the LVDS connector.
I have a laptop I use for formatting Xbox HDDs, another as an Emulating machine, one for gaming and one for testing OS's. So many thins one can use them for
Here at our local supermarket, there is also a dumbster with only electronics, not for big items like laptops or tv's, but for smaller items like ipads and smartphones and such, i found some good stuff in them too! I found an ipad air 1 without icloud on it, and a iphone 5 without icloud, found also a couple of smartphones, some older ones but still quite valueable! I like your channel so much because you also re-use things that people discarted! Keep up the good work man!
I would have checked the battery and possibly tried to charge it. That would have narrowed down the problem search. No matter, you got to it fast enough. But one idea that hit me -- I need to see if I can find one of those choke kits!
Did recently find a Lenovo ideapad 330 in the dumpster, only thing i found fault with it was water damage on the SO-DIMM so remowing that made it work again.
TOSHIBA laptops can be very touchy, i have one that uses 19v 6.32amp power supply,... buy looks at that its been over loaded, either wrong psu (over voltage, over amperage) or they grounded something on board whenplugged it in it popped
The ssd itself is worth quite a lot if it's in decent condition, (not a lot of wear and tear through lots of write cycles) you can use crystal disk info and crystal disk mark to check it.
I bought a 500GB 850 EVO back in 2015 for £125. The Pros were close to double that. Price/GB has pretty much halved since then, so I reckon that's easily £100+ worth of SSD new.
Drive is from 2015, you can read it from the serial number, just google Samsung date code. But as many others said, check how much data was written to the drive, age is not that important to SSDs
I have a Toshiba laptop that looks just like that. The hinge mounting system is crap. They use tiny screws to hold the hinge to the lid that go into threaded inserts that are set in very very thin plastic. The inserts will break away as the plastic crumbles, so you have to buy a new list (about $100) fortunately on mine, I found an LCD with the lid attached used for $45. So never let the lid close with anything more than maybe a couple of sheets of paper in there or the hinges will break very easily. I think mine might have had a pen get in there while the lid was being closed.
When I don't know the polarity of a laptop power supply, how do I find out whether the center pin is negative or positive? It's an old Acer Windows 8 machine I've still got sitting around here in pieces and plan to resurrect as a cheap typewriter for someone who can't afford a modern/good one...but I don't have the right PSU for it, only one of these universal ones, with a very losely fitting adapter that fell out, so now I don't know any more which way around it was in there... (these 2-pronged thingys, really bad stuff, but it's what I got).
I’ve got an old Macintosh IIfx that suffered an incidence… someone had, uh been a little cavalier with filling the box with hard drives, and mixed some internal and extrnally powered drives and somehow mixed up their power cables… blew the inductors right off the “internal” motherboard sourced HD power tap. My first ever motherboard repair putting that right...
I’m writing this for my hubby. He’s watching your video & he keeps saying, “he’s got a lot of neat things....”. I tried to find your audio & video plugs but can’t seem to find them. Not like yours anyway. Did you buy those in a set - if so, where. Thank you.
What was the cause of that short-circuit? May be a loose screw ? Tip : search for a missing screw, preferably one which holds the PCB where mechanical stress occurs, like near connectors.
Had an example of that some years back on a machine someone else had had apart, loosing a screw that ended up between mobo and chassis. Only damage was a MOSFET that had neatly desoldered itself from the mobo. The machine was renamed Phoenix after I'd fixed it.
@@EEVblog2 Thank for your reply. But...are you sure ? That would mean the motherboard has survived a few hundred volts over-voltage (at least) on the power input. How can you distinguish a burn due to an electric arc from that due to an over-current ? A short-circuit could have occurred between the output side of the inductor, coming from the positive of the PSU, and the 2 negative pins of the 4 pins power connector. A frank contact on the connector side could explain why that side doesn't show any burn damage. An electric arc would show burns to both sides. Thanks for the video.
The SSD was absolute overkill for that laptop from the beginning. The Samsung Pro Series isn't even necessary for tougher jobs like daily video editing, the EVO drives are absolutely good enough. But on the bright side, the 850 pro is probably going to last forever as long as the controller doesn't give up the ghost at some point. The NAND certainly won't.
I just paid good money for an 860 Evo 512GB SSD.... is it April 1st? That dumpster is a gold mine!
It's probably worth more than the laptop?
@@EEVblog I paid £62.65.+VAT.... like a lot of things they start £££££ and then end up £... bargain. Still yours was £62.65.+VAT cheaper than mine.
you need it badly if one repairs it
@@EEVblog Since most used laptops go for $80-100 tops, yes.
@@EEVblog The 850 Pro is at least 200 USD new.
Dave's got his own gold mine in that building!
"I'm not dyslexic, just don't pay attention" - refreshing honesty, and I am a card holder of that club.
I'm sure you have a spare inductor in among your stash of goodies Paul!? :P
I don’t worry about paying attention b/c my Apples have excellent communication skills. Right after I played some random podcasts from a very old iPod 📱 must’ve received ota them because next video I closed, RUclips’s app was recommending the next video from the same series in my YT channel list.
Is this first time dave fixed something!
@@vogonjelc No, but the way he acts, you'd think it's the first time every time!
In the UK youd be lucky to find an unopened tin of beans! Shops did used to just chuck stuff out but now to stop dumpster divers they smash everything up and pour water over it. Only great find ive had is I used to live on a brand new estate with million pound houses with housing association connected (only way to get the contract). Anyway a guy was chucking loadsa stuff out in 2 skips, i got 3 designer suits, 2 pairs timberlands, a toughbook, sony camcorder no charger, tag h watch, tons of other stuff and a coffee maker worth £600. The guy was a famous motorbike rider (no idea myself) and was cleaning out getting ready to go back to his other home abroad (not a good idea telling strangers that lol).
My first laptop that I repaired also came from the trash, it was also a Toshiba. Now I have a laptop service :)
Where does one go for laptop dumpster diving?
@@danielmasters8145 if we knew that, we'd be adding another laptop to our collection. Generally, they just aren't worth the effort.
That's awesome. Congrats. Hopefully it's still going strong.
Can't understand why people throw away PCs with hard drives filled with personal data (and even without the minimum protection like this). The previous owner of that laptop need to thank you for erasing that SSD. And nice score with that SSD by the way :)
That's how you give birth to voyeur priv8 p0rn on the interweb.
Knowing Dave's lab is in an office building, the guy who tossed that thing probably never heard of NDA and IP security at all.
Just people that dont understand how it works, i read a story of a guy who bought a laptop and claimed he found an old dell laptop instead of the one he bought so he got a full refund. the IT guys as the bestbuy just popped out the hdd and found his pics and data. people jsut assume "welp the laptop is broken" and everything on it is lost
some people only know how to turn on their laptop, start a browser and go on social media, if then this laptop dies, you can't expect them to know that there is something like a hard drive and that you can open it and take it out, let alone format it if it doesn't turn on.
Not everyone is tech savvy, even if they managed to install SSD into it, though they also might have gotten someone else to do it. Anyway, quite a lot of people, when PC or something dies, don't really know what failed, because they see laptop or PC as one unit and think that this is it, its dead, so it is fine. Yeah, it sounds bit funny for anyone tech savvy, but vast majority of users, just know how to use PC for general stuff and it ends there. So if I took a guess considering the damage, it could have easily be that owner thought that drive was dead with laptop.
Plus people don't really think about security that much. Like even working in support, I had plenty of moments when people would just tell me their password to check their issue out and I didn't even ask for it, I just told them I can't access everything in their account directly for obvious privacy reasons. So yeah, you can't really know how much previous owner even knew about privacy. I nuke my drives when I stop using them. But I have even seen plenty of used builds where they maybe just deleted few files and left bunch of stuff behind or left it easy to recover.
Not just the hard drive, why people trow away their pc , if its still can be repair??
These motherboards are often separate from the IO board so that they can use the same exact board for multiple different chassis. It also has the nice side effect of broken USB ports being easy to replace for those who aren't capable of soldering. By the looks of it based on the shape, that particular board could have been also designed with the possibility of the cooler assembly pointed to the other side. While definitely not the most spectacular machine there is, awesome find especially because of that SSD. These 850PRO drives were the top end of 'prosumer' range a few years back and they are almost indestructible write-wise.
EDIT: You can also see the unpopulated SATA ODD connector right behind the fan on your current config!
Holy cow, you're right! That whole space was meant for the ODD. You can see a curved cutout on the other side where the speaker is; that was where the fan was meant to go. The board was designed for a completely different laptop!
No need to replace this inductor, that is only used to pass FCC. I would just use a jumper.
The internal design of this Toshiba doesn't look professional and does not look as good as my previous 2 Toshiba notebooks. Probably this division was sold to somebody else, total not Toshiba design style.
You can really tell most of these cheaper model laptops from this era (and even into today) are designed by the same ODM. That internal layout is extremely similar to the Dell 3000 series laptops. It's like a flat board of plastic on the bottom with all the components just thrown around and bolted onto, and then covered by a clamshell bubble.
@@W1ldTangent yep i have had both its true
Yes. Internal layout, connectors and pcb material are all crappy. Similiar or worse than china made one! Toshiba brand , just kidding...Samsung is better.
@@ray-charc3131 Are you telling me that Samsung does not make high end and low end models?
Feel free to "bore us with the details."
Self isolated, not much more to do 😁
Shane Van Ingen I believe this episode was kicked up from eevBlab postproduction because the repair was a success.
People are stupid. Throwing out the SSD instead of spending 5 minutes to make a few hundred bucks?
MrCarGuy20 that SSD is only worth $50 used.
Maybe they are too rich for that.
Edit: or too dumb.
To make the hundred bucks you need to put it on ebay, risk getting scammed etc. Not worth it.
@@ryanstephenson7655 I meant saving them from having to buy another when they buy a new one.
@@ryanstephenson7655 where you get used 850 pro 512gb ssd for $50 ?, remember this is 850 pro not 850 evo, they are much more expensive
I'm surprised the other companies in the complex don't just knock on the lab door to ask if its wanted first before taking it the dumpster
Dave should put an ewaste bin in the dumpster room.
Before nuking, you may ask the previous owner. In the past, I always did that after repairs and some of them were very happy!
Maybe the previous owner would even buy that hole thing back from you and keeps using it!
Paul Daniels software and soldering tweezers? A little reference to Louis Rossmann maybe?
Or just a reference to the appropriate tools for the job.
Break out cables are there as above will be the 17 inch models space for an ODD and they want both to share the same motherboard.
To all the people trashing this machine, I'll take it in aheart beat. I love these old Toshibas as they are generally fixable one way or another. No problem with screens or drives or RAM. The boards are usually accessible and can be figured out. And they ALL use the same power connector.
The HDD/SSD caddy is missing. The drive shouldn't be loose.
Not a big problem if it uses a ribbon to SATA cable.
Yeah mine has a blue rubber speedo thing around the drive.
Looks like someone teared in there to try and fix it - found the blown bit and decided to chuck it.
@@ReubenHorner Why will they not take the hard drive out than...
@@georgedemean2228 I'd imagine the person who through it out (the owner I guess) didn't realise the value inside. I'd guess that the owner brought it to some independent shop and they said yea nah its stuffed mate, then the owner gave it the chuck.
All we can do is guess but the fact is - it got chucked even though it was a simple fix
850 Pro 512GB, shit, that's worth the effort right there! Older but who cares, basically all modern SATA drives run the same speed anyway, and those things are bullet proof. They'll write enormous amounts of data before problems - not like the early days of SSD's. I've seen consumer grade Samsung SATA SSD's write over a petabyte (on a 512GB drive) before entering read-only mode. That's like an order of magnitude more than their warranty. Most normal PC users won't even get a fraction of the way towards the total bytes written warranty on modern-ish SSD's.
Excellent repair video 👍
4:10 they do this so they can use the same board for different screen sizes, and they only need to adapt the connector cable lengths
SSD's worth ~$100 at most, probably less. OP'ed on eBay.
Reason is that a new 860 Pro's ~$200, and you can get a 970 Pro (NVMe) for the same price, or regular NVMe's for half the price but they're not as reliable as a Sammy Pro.
Wow you make it sound like its no big deal, to many people $100 is a lot of money, let alone to throw it in the dumpster.
@@netii126 Truth is most used SSD's are not worth buying anyway. One found in the dumpster thats actually good and not used up (close to max TB written) is a nice find.
When you find them for sale as a used SSD they tend to be at or near their max TB written spec, and so are not worth a penny unless you just like buying a junk storage device that will fail soon anyway.
Dave should check theSMART data for TB written, failed sectors count, read & write errors. I would toss it if any of the SMART data looks suspect.
Dude you are so lucky to have that dumpster or whatever (I live in the UK and have never come across anything like that, but I guess it's just a big bin). I don't have the money to buy a laptop and my current one weighs (not even an exaggeration) 4x that one and has 2GiB ram and a celeron rubbish CPU.
You just did something good for the environment. Now some new laptop needs not to be bought and this one needs to take it's place instead. Well done!
Samsung Pro SSDs have so much write endurance, it takes a long time to deliberately try to wear it out. Write to it as much as you please.
I have one exactly like that in the back room, now I have a place to check on that one to see if it is perhaps the same probelm.
this laptop is better than other boxes I have .. I would be happy to repair one like that too.
Old toshibas are great. Just restored my old toshiba Satellite Pro L770-14N (approx. 10 years) and upgraded it massively. These PCs have great upgradeability and are excellent workhorses. If it wasn't that old, this PC would get a hell of a review from me. But I think, braging to strangers on the internet will do ;)
You took the effort to insert "that's what she said" cool.
I kept wincing after it powered up, waiting for the new inductor to pop :o
If you post it on 1st april, i would assume this is april joke
That ssd probably costs more than entire laptop
The "U" stands for "underperforming"
When that SSD came out it was a pricey drive, still a good performer today especially considering its free
Thomas Swan it’s*
@@HighestRank what?
What's that adapter assortment you've got? I'd like to get one!
Me too!
Somewhere on ebay
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/34pcs-Repair-Tips-Computer-Universal-DC-Laptop-Plug-Set-Cables-Power-Adapter-UK/184235404785?hash=item2ae5492df1:g:PpsAAOSwDnldvJQ9
He used one on his scope.
I need one of these too...
Currently also using an 850 pro, really good SSD, With it, the SATA bus is effectively the bottleneck. They have an m.2 version that uses the same NAND chips and controller that gets around 1.2GB/s reads, and around 700-800MB/s writes. I currently use it as a working drive for large video files that I am editing, as well as a game drive.
My main SSD is a Samsung 970 Pro 512GB, for most tasks compared to when I used the 850 pro as the main drive, the 970 pro did not boost performance, but the massive boost in read and write speed helps when I need to work with uncompressed video, e.g. needing to go from davinci resolve to after effects. Outside of that, the 850 pro works great.
I wonder if the missing screw had been left laying around lose inside, or worked lose, then found it's way over to one end of that inductor, where it promptly shorted and let the smoke escape?
What a great find!
Nice. I did a similar thing just last week for my nephew. His 2 girls are doing the home schooling thing and needed another machine. I had an older laptop but no power supply so I cut the lead off a reasonably compatible supply and wired it in directly.
The color of tin on the inductor which is should be silver has becomes brown, it is impossible will happen if there is no "short circuit" in high current.
Anyways, at the charger/adapter there is a protector when short circuit occurs.
So how do you think Dave?
Put Linux on it and gain some speed.
And reliability. The voice of wisdom.
That's a very solid machine! Awesome dumpster drive and repair!
please, send me the location of that dumpster... we have to talk...
Could you parallel 2 of these inductors in order to increase the maximum amount of current, just in case if you didn't have another more suited one? Or why would it work with a lead, doesn't it need the inductance? Maybe the power from the power supply is too "dirty" otherwise, with lots of ripple or whatever that the machine might not like? I mean, they didn't put the inductor in there without a reason, I would think?
Check the SMART @ Wear Level Count.
BorisDG Samsung Magician
@@HighestRank Not only. There are many diagnostic programs which can be used.
4:05 I believe they have the cables routed around that way so they can use that MB on different form factor computers. You can see for example the cut out on the left for left side fan placement. I haven't worked for a Toshiba MSP since 2014, but I know that Dell does that a lot. If there's a 15" and 17" version, this is often how it's done.
11:58 Yes, that screw comes through the back cover. It's a great way to save on your BOM cost on low end devices like these.
I hate the complete hack job whoever installed that SSD did. It's really not that hard to get a screwdriver from somewhere and transfer the screws from the old one.
And having connectors on separate boards makes replacement easy if you damage a port. A good example of that is the power connector on my dell inspiron 13. Its plugged in via a short cable, 2min job to replace. Dell even give you the disassembly/service manual.
Yep, my alienware 15 R2 motherboard has labeled screw holes for the 13, 15 and 17 versions on it.
I see you also noticed how the caddy was still flapping around in there.
By all I have seen, it seems that the screws inside the machines often are only placed in the marked holes (you may see the little arrow next to the hole with a screw, it is missing around the holes without a screw)
That has resale value once repaired, insane the things people will just throw away.
I kept moving my head to discern the "fading" down the bottom left of the screen "Doh!"
Others it’s water damage. You will need to open up your screen now to fix it since it’s highly contagious. Should’ve stayed in quarantine.
I have a 512gb 850 evo, you can use Samsung Magician (official tool) to view how many writes its had and get stats on it
@@Okurka. yes they did, they just sold it as a 500gb model to seperate the market
Same quantity of nand
@@Okurka. riiiiiight
@@Okurka. Literally from Samsungs website: www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/solid-state-drives/ssd-850-evo-2-5-sata-iii-500gb-mz-75e500b-am/
@@Okurka. Then you are technically illiterate and you have my condolences. Obviously you're strawman argumenting about 500GB vs 512GB, even though they both literally have the same amount of Flash memory inside them (512GiB), and neither of them actually represent the final capacity after formatting, they both just use different ways of calculating the number they put on the box based on capacity overprovisioning from the factory. But it's alright, you can continue being proudly wrong, it doesn't change the fact you are just wrong, and nobody else cares! Everyone wins.
@@Okurka. Both drives have the same amount of Flash memory inside them. You cannot argue that, because it's factually true. If you aren't talking about the literal factual amount of Flash memory inside it, then what the fuck are you talking about? Becuase NEITHER of the drives are 512GB formatted capacity, so you're still wrong if you say they make a 500GB or a 512GB one.
You didn't actually provide any evidence for your bs, because you know you're wrong and you have nothing to show.
Talking about the board layout, missing the part where the same board is used in both 15" and 17" machines, and this one is extended out more due to 17"
I'm not sure if anybody knows, but recenlty a lot of videos about laptop "restorations" started popping up in my recommended feed. Most of those videos are shot somewhere in Southeast Asia, a bunch of guys "accidenatlly" find a trashed laptop with broken and missing parts and the whole thing is covered in mud. They film the whole process of the "restoration", but they don't even know what the hell they're doing. They scrub violently the board with brushes, they use a cheap ass analouge multimeter and probe some pins on the board and that's it. After that, they assemble the whole laptop and miraculously works ! It's not only the laptops, they also "fix" old phones, computer screens, toys, speakers, anything. How the hell those guys gain millions of views and subscribers ?
Solidarity from France. We cant dumpster dive here at the moment. This video is typical of my 'diving' experience. Laptops for everyone, family members get free upgrades.
A 5 year old laptop in the bin? I'd be happy with that! My daily runner is a 12-year-old Toshiba G50-11e.....but as long as it works :)
Thanks Dave
I know exactly why that drive wasn't mounted down - the bracket that originally held the hard drive wouldn't fit properly with the SSD. I've done replacements like this on similar laptops, and they never fit - orientation ends up being wrong, or the SSD mounting holes are lower down than on the HDD, or some other simple stupid issue. Last laptop I did this job on, I used strips of packing foam and packed it in around it, worked a charm.
It would have been great if you explain in details what this inductor was used for, what happens if you use a higher and lower one (we are 2 beginner following since years, interested about electronic without having studying it)
Doesn't matter when it was made. You just do a SMART readout, and you can read power on hours and write endurance wear.
What idiot does a drive uprade without a retainer cage though. That's nasty. Not even a piece of VHB tape to secure the drive a bit? And probably lost all manner of screws in the process.
The same idiot that throws away a SSD with all the company data on it :)
That's a didactic failure :D. Never had a failure like this in my laptops. When they fail me they do it properly, so I don't need an inductor box.
Ciprian Popa of course it failed being that the causal event was esoteric.
3 month of 2019 its the first lot of number on the PSID string
I had a MacBook Pro 2012 with a gray screen. Almost looked as if it was stuck on the EFI boot screen. Ended up being a bad inductor by the LVDS connector.
ssd is perfectly fine unless it was in a server infact it has a longer life than current cheaper ssds
meky0 Ergo ssds is cheaper than ssd...
@@HighestRank sort of - all ssds are the cheaper varient nowdays with QLC AND TLC
Rescued a samsung ativ x500 tablet. Bought the power adaptor from aliexpress for 20 bucks. Then did a reset. Battery still lasted 7hrs!
What he actually said: My tube is empty.
The 850 Pro was released in 2014 but has a 10 years or 300 TBW warranty. It was discontinued in 2018, though.
I have a laptop I use for formatting Xbox HDDs, another as an Emulating machine, one for gaming and one for testing OS's. So many thins one can use them for
@3:08 Extinguisher under the desk and some earth points to plug yourself in. Nice!
NivagSwerdna when plugging something in first might automatically result in it tearing itself apart, yes.
Here at our local supermarket, there is also a dumbster with only electronics, not for big items like laptops or tv's, but for smaller items like ipads and smartphones and such, i found some good stuff in them too! I found an ipad air 1 without icloud on it, and a iphone 5 without icloud, found also a couple of smartphones, some older ones but still quite valueable! I like your channel so much because you also re-use things that people discarted! Keep up the good work man!
I would have checked the battery and possibly tried to charge it. That would have narrowed down the problem search. No matter, you got to it fast enough. But one idea that hit me -- I need to see if I can find one of those choke kits!
Year ago I've bought some notebook, all specs decent but it had only 120GB M.2 SSD, so I've replaced it with 1TB one...
@2:34 I've had to re-solder several Toshiba power connectors in the past wouldn't suprise me it this needed it too they always seem to break.
I've been a victim of that. Twice
That dumpster is the entrance to Walhalla. Unbelievable what you regularly fish out of there. I want such a dumpster too!
Ernie burny spark mark. Love it
I reckon the DC input being on a fly lead is good strain relief.
Dunno how many laptops I've seen with DC jacks ripped off the main board.
5:40 - I'm wondering if that SSD is secured by the bottom of the case when fully assembled, preventing it from flapping about?
Good fix. Strange to see this machine pushed to the max
Did recently find a Lenovo ideapad 330 in the dumpster, only thing i found fault with it was water damage on the SO-DIMM so remowing that made it work again.
TOSHIBA laptops can be very touchy, i have one that uses 19v 6.32amp power supply,... buy looks at that its been over loaded, either wrong psu (over voltage, over amperage) or they grounded something on board whenplugged it in it popped
I love these dumpster PC repairs.
Great finding. A 8GB laptop is largely enough for most people and 512GB of SSD is luxury. Just put a beefier inductor and let's go !
CaptainDangeax those ODN relays are a third the capacity of the originals. What did you need the room for?
@@HighestRank What do you mean ?
Good find!😊
The ssd itself is worth quite a lot if it's in decent condition, (not a lot of wear and tear through lots of write cycles) you can use crystal disk info and crystal disk mark to check it.
I bought a 500GB 850 EVO back in 2015 for £125. The Pros were close to double that. Price/GB has pretty much halved since then, so I reckon that's easily £100+ worth of SSD new.
850 series is couple years old now but was a premium unit. Install it and get ur fav smart drive software out and check for remaining life
Drive is from 2015, you can read it from the serial number, just google Samsung date code. But as many others said, check how much data was written to the drive, age is not that important to SSDs
@EEVblog where did you get that mains adapter kit?
how did you know the value of the inductor that has to be replaced?
Wish I live in your nearby, the trash always have some really nice electronics dumped.
I have a couple of those 850 Pro 512's floating around as well as the 1TB version. They are good drives.
What universal power adapter are you using? It looks really handy with all the different connection types.
Well done Dave! This was a great little vid and a nice score!
why would they throw that ssd out
They bought a new machine. Joe Average has zero care factor for computers parts.
@@EEVblog And also for his privacy and security.
The computa ain't no choochin therefore you ain't gotta get my files
I really like the inductor kit.
I have a Toshiba laptop that looks just like that. The hinge mounting system is crap. They use tiny screws to hold the hinge to the lid that go into threaded inserts that are set in very very thin plastic. The inserts will break away as the plastic crumbles, so you have to buy a new list (about $100) fortunately on mine, I found an LCD with the lid attached used for $45. So never let the lid close with anything more than maybe a couple of sheets of paper in there or the hinges will break very easily. I think mine might have had a pen get in there while the lid was being closed.
When I don't know the polarity of a laptop power supply, how do I find out whether the center pin is negative or positive? It's an old Acer Windows 8 machine I've still got sitting around here in pieces and plan to resurrect as a cheap typewriter for someone who can't afford a modern/good one...but I don't have the right PSU for it, only one of these universal ones, with a very losely fitting adapter that fell out, so now I don't know any more which way around it was in there... (these 2-pronged thingys, really bad stuff, but it's what I got).
Check the continuity with the usb ports. They are grounded.
@@nalinux right, good idea, thanks!
That SSD was worth pulling the laptop out of the dumpster just on its own. That's amazing.
I’ve got an old Macintosh IIfx that suffered an incidence… someone had, uh been a little cavalier with filling the box with hard drives, and mixed some internal and extrnally powered drives and somehow mixed up their power cables… blew the inductors right off the “internal” motherboard sourced HD power tap. My first ever motherboard repair putting that right...
The 850 PRO is an MLC drive - the 860 PRO is £130 in the UK for 512GB. The 850 EVO and 860 EVO use cheaper TLC NAND.
Just a small tip for you dave, when you go over about 70% of an SSD's capacity, its performance seriously tanks often to slower than a HDD
@Против Глобал Nope
I’m writing this for my hubby. He’s watching your video & he keeps saying, “he’s got a lot of neat things....”. I tried to find your audio & video plugs but can’t seem to find them. Not like yours anyway. Did you buy those in a set - if so, where. Thank you.
MonCher there’s someone else who wrote another thread for you to find which has a link to the adapters on it.
kinda funny how other components but the fuse blows up.
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@@mzflighter6905 My thoughts too!
What was the cause of that short-circuit? May be a loose screw ? Tip : search for a missing screw, preferably one which holds the PCB where mechanical stress occurs, like near connectors.
Had an example of that some years back on a machine someone else had had apart, loosing a screw that ended up between mobo and chassis. Only damage was a MOSFET that had neatly desoldered itself from the mobo. The machine was renamed Phoenix after I'd fixed it.
It wasn't a short, it was a high voltage arc-over.
@@EEVblog2 Thank for your reply. But...are you sure ? That would mean the motherboard has survived a few hundred volts over-voltage (at least) on the power input. How can you distinguish a burn due to an electric arc from that due to an over-current ? A short-circuit could have occurred between the output side of the inductor, coming from the positive of the PSU, and the 2 negative pins of the 4 pins power connector. A frank contact on the connector side could explain why that side doesn't show any burn damage. An electric arc would show burns to both sides. Thanks for the video.
The SSD was absolute overkill for that laptop from the beginning. The Samsung Pro Series isn't even necessary for tougher jobs like daily video editing, the EVO drives are absolutely good enough. But on the bright side, the 850 pro is probably going to last forever as long as the controller doesn't give up the ghost at some point. The NAND certainly won't.