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- Repairing a Toshiba Satellite S40-B Laptop found in the dumpster.
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I just paid good money for an 860 Evo 512GB SSD.... is it April 1st? That dumpster is a gold mine!
It's probably worth more than the laptop?
@@EEVblog I paid £62.65.+VAT.... like a lot of things they start £££££ and then end up £... bargain. Still yours was £62.65.+VAT cheaper than mine.
you need it badly if one repairs it
@@EEVblog Since most used laptops go for $80-100 tops, yes.
@@EEVblog The 850 Pro is at least 200 USD new.
"I'm not dyslexic, just don't pay attention" - refreshing honesty, and I am a card holder of that club.
I'm sure you have a spare inductor in among your stash of goodies Paul!? :P
I don’t worry about paying attention b/c my Apples have excellent communication skills. Right after I played some random podcasts from a very old iPod 📱 must’ve received ota them because next video I closed, RUclips’s app was recommending the next video from the same series in my YT channel list.
Is this first time dave fixed something!
@@vogonjelc No, but the way he acts, you'd think it's the first time every time!
Dave's got his own gold mine in that building!
My first laptop that I repaired also came from the trash, it was also a Toshiba. Now I have a laptop service :)
Where does one go for laptop dumpster diving?
@@danielmasters8145 if we knew that, we'd be adding another laptop to our collection. Generally, they just aren't worth the effort.
That's awesome. Congrats. Hopefully it's still going strong.
Can't understand why people throw away PCs with hard drives filled with personal data (and even without the minimum protection like this). The previous owner of that laptop need to thank you for erasing that SSD. And nice score with that SSD by the way :)
That's how you give birth to voyeur priv8 p0rn on the interweb.
Knowing Dave's lab is in an office building, the guy who tossed that thing probably never heard of NDA and IP security at all.
Just people that dont understand how it works, i read a story of a guy who bought a laptop and claimed he found an old dell laptop instead of the one he bought so he got a full refund. the IT guys as the bestbuy just popped out the hdd and found his pics and data. people jsut assume "welp the laptop is broken" and everything on it is lost
some people only know how to turn on their laptop, start a browser and go on social media, if then this laptop dies, you can't expect them to know that there is something like a hard drive and that you can open it and take it out, let alone format it if it doesn't turn on.
Not everyone is tech savvy, even if they managed to install SSD into it, though they also might have gotten someone else to do it. Anyway, quite a lot of people, when PC or something dies, don't really know what failed, because they see laptop or PC as one unit and think that this is it, its dead, so it is fine. Yeah, it sounds bit funny for anyone tech savvy, but vast majority of users, just know how to use PC for general stuff and it ends there. So if I took a guess considering the damage, it could have easily be that owner thought that drive was dead with laptop.
Plus people don't really think about security that much. Like even working in support, I had plenty of moments when people would just tell me their password to check their issue out and I didn't even ask for it, I just told them I can't access everything in their account directly for obvious privacy reasons. So yeah, you can't really know how much previous owner even knew about privacy. I nuke my drives when I stop using them. But I have even seen plenty of used builds where they maybe just deleted few files and left bunch of stuff behind or left it easy to recover.
Not just the hard drive, why people trow away their pc , if its still can be repair??
These motherboards are often separate from the IO board so that they can use the same exact board for multiple different chassis. It also has the nice side effect of broken USB ports being easy to replace for those who aren't capable of soldering. By the looks of it based on the shape, that particular board could have been also designed with the possibility of the cooler assembly pointed to the other side. While definitely not the most spectacular machine there is, awesome find especially because of that SSD. These 850PRO drives were the top end of 'prosumer' range a few years back and they are almost indestructible write-wise.
EDIT: You can also see the unpopulated SATA ODD connector right behind the fan on your current config!
Holy cow, you're right! That whole space was meant for the ODD. You can see a curved cutout on the other side where the speaker is; that was where the fan was meant to go. The board was designed for a completely different laptop!
In the UK youd be lucky to find an unopened tin of beans! Shops did used to just chuck stuff out but now to stop dumpster divers they smash everything up and pour water over it. Only great find ive had is I used to live on a brand new estate with million pound houses with housing association connected (only way to get the contract). Anyway a guy was chucking loadsa stuff out in 2 skips, i got 3 designer suits, 2 pairs timberlands, a toughbook, sony camcorder no charger, tag h watch, tons of other stuff and a coffee maker worth £600. The guy was a famous motorbike rider (no idea myself) and was cleaning out getting ready to go back to his other home abroad (not a good idea telling strangers that lol).
Feel free to "bore us with the details."
Self isolated, not much more to do 😁
Shane Van Ingen I believe this episode was kicked up from eevBlab postproduction because the repair was a success.
No need to replace this inductor, that is only used to pass FCC. I would just use a jumper.
The internal design of this Toshiba doesn't look professional and does not look as good as my previous 2 Toshiba notebooks. Probably this division was sold to somebody else, total not Toshiba design style.
You can really tell most of these cheaper model laptops from this era (and even into today) are designed by the same ODM. That internal layout is extremely similar to the Dell 3000 series laptops. It's like a flat board of plastic on the bottom with all the components just thrown around and bolted onto, and then covered by a clamshell bubble.
@@W1ldTangent yep i have had both its true
Yes. Internal layout, connectors and pcb material are all crappy. Similiar or worse than china made one! Toshiba brand , just kidding...Samsung is better.
@@ray-charc3131 Are you telling me that Samsung does not make high end and low end models?
People are stupid. Throwing out the SSD instead of spending 5 minutes to make a few hundred bucks?
MrCarGuy20 that SSD is only worth $50 used.
Maybe they are too rich for that.
Edit: or too dumb.
To make the hundred bucks you need to put it on ebay, risk getting scammed etc. Not worth it.
@@ryanstephenson7655 I meant saving them from having to buy another when they buy a new one.
@@ryanstephenson7655 where you get used 850 pro 512gb ssd for $50 ?, remember this is 850 pro not 850 evo, they are much more expensive
Before nuking, you may ask the previous owner. In the past, I always did that after repairs and some of them were very happy!
Maybe the previous owner would even buy that hole thing back from you and keeps using it!
Old toshibas are great. Just restored my old toshiba Satellite Pro L770-14N (approx. 10 years) and upgraded it massively. These PCs have great upgradeability and are excellent workhorses. If it wasn't that old, this PC would get a hell of a review from me. But I think, braging to strangers on the internet will do ;)
I'm surprised the other companies in the complex don't just knock on the lab door to ask if its wanted first before taking it the dumpster
Dave should put an ewaste bin in the dumpster room.
Paul Daniels software and soldering tweezers? A little reference to Louis Rossmann maybe?
Or just a reference to the appropriate tools for the job.
That has resale value once repaired, insane the things people will just throw away.
Excellent repair video 👍
Break out cables are there as above will be the 17 inch models space for an ODD and they want both to share the same motherboard.
Currently also using an 850 pro, really good SSD, With it, the SATA bus is effectively the bottleneck. They have an m.2 version that uses the same NAND chips and controller that gets around 1.2GB/s reads, and around 700-800MB/s writes. I currently use it as a working drive for large video files that I am editing, as well as a game drive.
My main SSD is a Samsung 970 Pro 512GB, for most tasks compared to when I used the 850 pro as the main drive, the 970 pro did not boost performance, but the massive boost in read and write speed helps when I need to work with uncompressed video, e.g. needing to go from davinci resolve to after effects. Outside of that, the 850 pro works great.
850 Pro 512GB, shit, that's worth the effort right there! Older but who cares, basically all modern SATA drives run the same speed anyway, and those things are bullet proof. They'll write enormous amounts of data before problems - not like the early days of SSD's. I've seen consumer grade Samsung SATA SSD's write over a petabyte (on a 512GB drive) before entering read-only mode. That's like an order of magnitude more than their warranty. Most normal PC users won't even get a fraction of the way towards the total bytes written warranty on modern-ish SSD's.
SSD's worth ~$100 at most, probably less. OP'ed on eBay.
Reason is that a new 860 Pro's ~$200, and you can get a 970 Pro (NVMe) for the same price, or regular NVMe's for half the price but they're not as reliable as a Sammy Pro.
Wow you make it sound like its no big deal, to many people $100 is a lot of money, let alone to throw it in the dumpster.
@@netii126 Truth is most used SSD's are not worth buying anyway. One found in the dumpster thats actually good and not used up (close to max TB written) is a nice find.
When you find them for sale as a used SSD they tend to be at or near their max TB written spec, and so are not worth a penny unless you just like buying a junk storage device that will fail soon anyway.
Dave should check theSMART data for TB written, failed sectors count, read & write errors. I would toss it if any of the SMART data looks suspect.
You just did something good for the environment. Now some new laptop needs not to be bought and this one needs to take it's place instead. Well done!
this laptop is better than other boxes I have .. I would be happy to repair one like that too.
Nice. I did a similar thing just last week for my nephew. His 2 girls are doing the home schooling thing and needed another machine. I had an older laptop but no power supply so I cut the lead off a reasonably compatible supply and wired it in directly.
Good fix. Strange to see this machine pushed to the max
The HDD/SSD caddy is missing. The drive shouldn't be loose.
Not a big problem if it uses a ribbon to SATA cable.
Yeah mine has a blue rubber speedo thing around the drive.
Looks like someone teared in there to try and fix it - found the blown bit and decided to chuck it.
@@ReubenHorner Why will they not take the hard drive out than...
@@georgedemean2228 I'd imagine the person who through it out (the owner I guess) didn't realise the value inside. I'd guess that the owner brought it to some independent shop and they said yea nah its stuffed mate, then the owner gave it the chuck.
All we can do is guess but the fact is - it got chucked even though it was a simple fix
Dude you are so lucky to have that dumpster or whatever (I live in the UK and have never come across anything like that, but I guess it's just a big bin). I don't have the money to buy a laptop and my current one weighs (not even an exaggeration) 4x that one and has 2GiB ram and a celeron rubbish CPU.
Solidarity from France. We cant dumpster dive here at the moment. This video is typical of my 'diving' experience. Laptops for everyone, family members get free upgrades.
When that SSD came out it was a pricey drive, still a good performer today especially considering its free
Thomas Swan it’s*
@@HighestRank what?
I know exactly why that drive wasn't mounted down - the bracket that originally held the hard drive wouldn't fit properly with the SSD. I've done replacements like this on similar laptops, and they never fit - orientation ends up being wrong, or the SSD mounting holes are lower down than on the HDD, or some other simple stupid issue. Last laptop I did this job on, I used strips of packing foam and packed it in around it, worked a charm.
To all the people trashing this machine, I'll take it in aheart beat. I love these old Toshibas as they are generally fixable one way or another. No problem with screens or drives or RAM. The boards are usually accessible and can be figured out. And they ALL use the same power connector.
That's a very solid machine! Awesome dumpster drive and repair!
@3:08 Extinguisher under the desk and some earth points to plug yourself in. Nice!
NivagSwerdna when plugging something in first might automatically result in it tearing itself apart, yes.
I kept wincing after it powered up, waiting for the new inductor to pop :o
Rescued a samsung ativ x500 tablet. Bought the power adaptor from aliexpress for 20 bucks. Then did a reset. Battery still lasted 7hrs!
Wish I live in your nearby, the trash always have some really nice electronics dumped.
I kept moving my head to discern the "fading" down the bottom left of the screen "Doh!"
Others it’s water damage. You will need to open up your screen now to fix it since it’s highly contagious. Should’ve stayed in quarantine.
Samsung Pro SSDs have so much write endurance, it takes a long time to deliberately try to wear it out. Write to it as much as you please.
That's a didactic failure :D. Never had a failure like this in my laptops. When they fail me they do it properly, so I don't need an inductor box.
Ciprian Popa of course it failed being that the causal event was esoteric.
That dumpster is the entrance to Walhalla. Unbelievable what you regularly fish out of there. I want such a dumpster too!
A 5 year old laptop in the bin? I'd be happy with that! My daily runner is a 12-year-old Toshiba G50-11e.....but as long as it works :)
4:05 I believe they have the cables routed around that way so they can use that MB on different form factor computers. You can see for example the cut out on the left for left side fan placement. I haven't worked for a Toshiba MSP since 2014, but I know that Dell does that a lot. If there's a 15" and 17" version, this is often how it's done.
11:58 Yes, that screw comes through the back cover. It's a great way to save on your BOM cost on low end devices like these.
I hate the complete hack job whoever installed that SSD did. It's really not that hard to get a screwdriver from somewhere and transfer the screws from the old one.
And having connectors on separate boards makes replacement easy if you damage a port. A good example of that is the power connector on my dell inspiron 13. Its plugged in via a short cable, 2min job to replace. Dell even give you the disassembly/service manual.
Yep, my alienware 15 R2 motherboard has labeled screw holes for the 13, 15 and 17 versions on it.
I see you also noticed how the caddy was still flapping around in there.
please, send me the location of that dumpster... we have to talk...
This could be the best gift for my birthday in April.)
You took the effort to insert "that's what she said" cool.
If you post it on 1st april, i would assume this is april joke
That ssd probably costs more than entire laptop
4:10 they do this so they can use the same board for different screen sizes, and they only need to adapt the connector cable lengths
I'm not sure if anybody knows, but recenlty a lot of videos about laptop "restorations" started popping up in my recommended feed. Most of those videos are shot somewhere in Southeast Asia, a bunch of guys "accidenatlly" find a trashed laptop with broken and missing parts and the whole thing is covered in mud. They film the whole process of the "restoration", but they don't even know what the hell they're doing. They scrub violently the board with brushes, they use a cheap ass analouge multimeter and probe some pins on the board and that's it. After that, they assemble the whole laptop and miraculously works ! It's not only the laptops, they also "fix" old phones, computer screens, toys, speakers, anything. How the hell those guys gain millions of views and subscribers ?
I have a laptop I use for formatting Xbox HDDs, another as an Emulating machine, one for gaming and one for testing OS's. So many thins one can use them for
What a great find!
I have a 512gb 850 evo, you can use Samsung Magician (official tool) to view how many writes its had and get stats on it
@@Okurka. yes they did, they just sold it as a 500gb model to seperate the market
Same quantity of nand
@@Okurka. riiiiiight
@@Okurka. Literally from Samsungs website: www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/solid-state-drives/ssd-850-evo-2-5-sata-iii-500gb-mz-75e500b-am/
@@Okurka. Then you are technically illiterate and you have my condolences. Obviously you're strawman argumenting about 500GB vs 512GB, even though they both literally have the same amount of Flash memory inside them (512GiB), and neither of them actually represent the final capacity after formatting, they both just use different ways of calculating the number they put on the box based on capacity overprovisioning from the factory. But it's alright, you can continue being proudly wrong, it doesn't change the fact you are just wrong, and nobody else cares! Everyone wins.
@@Okurka. Both drives have the same amount of Flash memory inside them. You cannot argue that, because it's factually true. If you aren't talking about the literal factual amount of Flash memory inside it, then what the fuck are you talking about? Becuase NEITHER of the drives are 512GB formatted capacity, so you're still wrong if you say they make a 500GB or a 512GB one.
You didn't actually provide any evidence for your bs, because you know you're wrong and you have nothing to show.
Check the SMART @ Wear Level Count.
BorisDG Samsung Magician
@@HighestRank Not only. There are many diagnostic programs which can be used.
Well done Dave! This was a great little vid and a nice score!
Talking about the board layout, missing the part where the same board is used in both 15" and 17" machines, and this one is extended out more due to 17"
The "U" stands for "underperforming"
I have one exactly like that in the back room, now I have a place to check on that one to see if it is perhaps the same probelm.
what a voice....he's like michael scott from the office
Surprised at such a simple repair. I always grab up as many "broken" laptops as possible for this exact reason just to keep on hand. Nice little gem of an SSD in there as well. Glad it worked out for you!
Yeah I was surprised nothing else was damaged, not even that input cap.
Nice simple repair, Norton handbrake
I found one with a 256GB Samsung 860 EVO... manufactured in 2018!!!
Lots life left! They have 5 year warranties :)
Winner winner Taco Dinner!
Year ago I've bought some notebook, all specs decent but it had only 120GB M.2 SSD, so I've replaced it with 1TB one...
I love these dumpster PC repairs.
I wonder if the missing screw had been left laying around lose inside, or worked lose, then found it's way over to one end of that inductor, where it promptly shorted and let the smoke escape?
So rich neighbors, they just throw expensive things :-)
God bless.
Put Linux on it and gain some speed.
And reliability. The voice of wisdom.
best tech on the dumpsters near where I work: chair. this lucky bro got an SSD.
dead cats and baby diapers in mine.
Could you parallel 2 of these inductors in order to increase the maximum amount of current, just in case if you didn't have another more suited one? Or why would it work with a lead, doesn't it need the inductance? Maybe the power from the power supply is too "dirty" otherwise, with lots of ripple or whatever that the machine might not like? I mean, they didn't put the inductor in there without a reason, I would think?
it pays off renting in that building!
other people in the office : «You know, I started with nothing, just one PC, then found one on the dumpster, all of our equipment comes from the dumpsters local. We're now a start-up.»
I have used 850 PRO 256 as a primary drive for like 6 years and not a scratch on its health.
These Pro models are overengineered. I believe an estimated lifetime for 512gb models was 140 years with casual use, 150Tb write limit for warranty.
And intense enterprise torture for ~5 years.
throwing a laptop with personal data inside is very dangerous as other people can use personal data to sell or expose it
The 850 Pro was released in 2014 but has a 10 years or 300 TBW warranty. It was discontinued in 2018, though.
I got an old laptop for bugger all at a garage sale, no power adaptor etc. It powered up ok and had loads of photos/videos on it. I ended up gathering enough info to find out the contact details of the original owner (turns out it had been lost years before) - they were pretty happy to get their old data back.
Then I nuked it.
That SSD was worth pulling the laptop out of the dumpster just on its own. That's amazing.
Ernie burny spark mark. Love it
Good find!😊
Doesn't matter when it was made. You just do a SMART readout, and you can read power on hours and write endurance wear.
What idiot does a drive uprade without a retainer cage though. That's nasty. Not even a piece of VHB tape to secure the drive a bit? And probably lost all manner of screws in the process.
The same idiot that throws away a SSD with all the company data on it :)
I reckon the DC input being on a fly lead is good strain relief.
Dunno how many laptops I've seen with DC jacks ripped off the main board.
Thanks Dave
By all I have seen, it seems that the screws inside the machines often are only placed in the marked holes (you may see the little arrow next to the hole with a screw, it is missing around the holes without a screw)
The SSD was absolute overkill for that laptop from the beginning. The Samsung Pro Series isn't even necessary for tougher jobs like daily video editing, the EVO drives are absolutely good enough. But on the bright side, the 850 pro is probably going to last forever as long as the controller doesn't give up the ghost at some point. The NAND certainly won't.
I had a MacBook Pro 2012 with a gray screen. Almost looked as if it was stuck on the EFI boot screen. Ended up being a bad inductor by the LVDS connector.
Drive is from 2015, you can read it from the serial number, just google Samsung date code. But as many others said, check how much data was written to the drive, age is not that important to SSDs
The 850 PRO is an MLC drive - the 860 PRO is £130 in the UK for 512GB. The 850 EVO and 860 EVO use cheaper TLC NAND.
Great finding. A 8GB laptop is largely enough for most people and 512GB of SSD is luxury. Just put a beefier inductor and let's go !
CaptainDangeax those ODN relays are a third the capacity of the originals. What did you need the room for?
@@HighestRank What do you mean ?
It would have been great if you explain in details what this inductor was used for, what happens if you use a higher and lower one (we are 2 beginner following since years, interested about electronic without having studying it)
My wife had this same style laptop a few years back, it was around $330 with an i7...didn't survive a Red Bull spill.
I bought a very similar S55 back in 2015. The BIOS chip died within 6 months. Had it replaced by a technician (Toshiba had left Venezuela by then), and the same chip failed AGAIN after 4 months. These Toshiba laptops from the years before they stopped selling to consumers are crap. My dad bought a C55 a few months later and is fickle as hell. My brother in law also owns a C55, also fickle. And all three laptops were bought at different places, on the space of a year
850 series is couple years old now but was a premium unit. Install it and get ur fav smart drive software out and check for remaining life
I bought a 500GB 850 EVO back in 2015 for £125. The Pros were close to double that. Price/GB has pretty much halved since then, so I reckon that's easily £100+ worth of SSD new.
What's that adapter assortment you've got? I'd like to get one!
Me too!
Somewhere on ebay
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/34pcs-Repair-Tips-Computer-Universal-DC-Laptop-Plug-Set-Cables-Power-Adapter-UK/184235404785?hash=item2ae5492df1:g:PpsAAOSwDnldvJQ9
He used one on his scope.
I need one of these too...
I think it is really sad that all that technology is thrown out because a tiny 5c cent component failed. I miss the "olden" days when things could easily be repaired, and were repaired. These days people just don't seem to bother and just buy a new item.
It blows me a way the stuff people throw away thinking its useless or junk
beatifull laptopt!!! very nice heatksink system
I have a couple of those 850 Pro 512's floating around as well as the 1TB version. They are good drives.
I’ve got an old Macintosh IIfx that suffered an incidence… someone had, uh been a little cavalier with filling the box with hard drives, and mixed some internal and extrnally powered drives and somehow mixed up their power cables… blew the inductors right off the “internal” motherboard sourced HD power tap. My first ever motherboard repair putting that right...
Once I came out of stasis..
I APPROVED OF THIS VIDEO. No whackers
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Here at our local supermarket, there is also a dumbster with only electronics, not for big items like laptops or tv's, but for smaller items like ipads and smartphones and such, i found some good stuff in them too! I found an ipad air 1 without icloud on it, and a iphone 5 without icloud, found also a couple of smartphones, some older ones but still quite valueable! I like your channel so much because you also re-use things that people discarted! Keep up the good work man!
The color of tin on the inductor which is should be silver has becomes brown, it is impossible will happen if there is no "short circuit" in high current.
Anyways, at the charger/adapter there is a protector when short circuit occurs.
So how do you think Dave?
It looks like a really nice laptop.
You are a lucky bastard. I wish I can find things like that in my dumpster lol
Wow Dave you have a good class of dumpster where you are :-)
Isn't it funny how computers you don't care about just won't die, but computers you do care about are goners if you so much as look at them wrong.