How Brexit broke the Tory Party | Andrew Neil brutally analyses 14 years of the Conservatives
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
- “The Brexit referendum was the defining moment of the past 14 years. It sucked up all the bandwidth of the governing party, so they were so exhausted they had no energy or brainpower for anything else but dealing with Brexit.”
Andrew Neil analyses the last 14 years of Conservative government.
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In a nutshell- Tories putting party and personal gain above the national interest for 14 years. Shut the door on your way out.
I think I'd reverse that. Personal gain first, party second. Just look at what they did.
@@jimclark1374 No argument there. Anything but govern for us all.
No money left 2010....cheers for that Labour.
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@@user-yi6ui6pn4iLabour left debt of 980billion. The tories have now racked up a debt of 3 trillion. Before covid it was over 1.3 trillion. Try again.
Boris kicked out all the competent moderates & let the headbangers in. So yes, Brexit broke the Tories. Finally, a Brexit benefit!
The Tories achirved practically nothing in 14 years, only destructive, societal level chaos, and huge wealth extraction (the latter being the modus operandi for the Tories anyway). They used the chaos to privatise the NHS and buy up state owned assets on the cheep. They used the chaos to allow natural monopolies like water and railways to run roughshot over our strategic infrastructure and get away with fleecing the public, wholesale. They used the chaos to destroy our relationships with our nearest neighbours and create an atmosphere where lies and propoganda went into overdrive thereby gaslighting the nation. It must be one of the most calamatus periods in British history. What a start the 21st century. Mind boggling!
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They were Lib Dumbs who got kicked out....they never were Tories.
And I forgot, the other non-Tory that Times Radio so loves, the skeletal Rory Stewart.
The height of ignorance, are you unwell?
I hope Times Radio preserves this video for future historians. Mr. Neil is a symbol for the thinking that has led to the problems the UK faces today. He doesn't take responsibility for the political party he has supported. He sees the problem as the personalities in the Conservative Party rather than the specific problems requiring different solutions. It is like watching Herbert Hoover give his view of the Great Depression. UK deserves better.😊
like Kunnesberg reporting on Downing St machinations like running the country was a soap-opera (certainly was for Boris)
'Great Depression' is an accurate summation of the current government
UK needs Farage!!
Agree and the idea that the first half under Cameron was good/ok is ridiculous - people were sufferng from the cuts and the 2008 crash!
@@AgtsmirnoffGet help. And maybe a basic understanding of politics and ideology while you're at it. Farage's beliefs are the conservatives on steroids.
Neil hasn't exactly covered himself in glory. Two faced comes to mind.
You can exspect nothing else from that idiot...
Yeah, Brillo Pad has been a Tory bootlicker all his life
Hasn't been honest only about cameron...a complete tos^er he was.
No real achievement after 14 years, except adding £2 Trillion in debt.
You are correct.
Do you reckon Keir 'I don't know what a Woman is' Starmer and the otherside of the uniparty, are going to turn the UK into a Utopia?
The UK has been a "shambles", since John Major became PM.
No exceptions since.
To be fair, much of that was because of the Chinese plague. Nobody knew what was going to happen or how severe it was going to be. Keeping people in lockdown seemed, at the time, to be a sensible precaution.
Root cause was Brown's crippling, shocking £180 BILLION DEFICIT in 2010........dumping austerity on incoming Tories.
and millions added to the population
“ Tories ended exhausted”, er, the country ended exhausted! Get rid of them. Shambles.
And bring in worse..Labour
@@merseybeat1963 how do you possibly know?
@@grahamainsley5986 listen to what Starmer plans on doing when they get in. As bad as Conservatives have been Labour will be worse. Labour used to have some good people but Blair was not one of them.
Farage and Rees Mogg is what should be voted in. Especially Mogg
@@grahamainsley5986 I know because I've lived through previous Labour governments.
@@johnf3885 Nothing has ever been as bad as this government. After years of austerity, we were still worse off. No government since the war has left people worse off... until now.
Andrew Neil's analysis is completely incorrect. He seems to view the Cameron/Osbourne years as pretty decent. For the public they were catastrophic. The decision to cut spending on services and refusing to borrow when the cost of borrowing was extremely low was incredibly inept and vindictive. It's true that May, Johnson, Truss and Sunak also did immense harm to the UK population, but the decision to implement austerity was obscene.
Exactly, and contrasts with what for example Germany did in response to the banking crisis.
The government didn’t cut spending.
😂 no idea what you people are talking about
@@danielberry4765 Exactly….you have no idea.
I mean relatively they at least had a coherent plan. I don't agree with it but I knew what they stood for. Everything after that was nonsense....
@@davidgriffithsbjjcoach7207 What was their coherent plan ?
By his own analysis, Andrew says the Brexit vote has been the sole cause of the Conservative's woes since 2016.
But he then describes Cameron, who called the Brexit vote, as a decent PM who history will look kindly on.
Not sure those two comments support each other.
Spot on. I was going write something similar. Cameron opened the door to the Brexit-May-Johnson-Truss-Sunak fiasco.
At the time, he described Cameron as the worst Prime Minister since Lord North for losing the Referendum.
Andrew Neil supported the UK leaving the EU.
@syedhasan5861 he would claim he never revealed his personal views, but his analysis of the pros and cons was never very good.
@@nickdoughty518I remember both Andrew Neil and George Osborne were praising Kwase Kwantang's mini budget that it was a good budget two days after the mini budget on Andrew Neil's Sunday Channel 4 programme and we know what happenned the following Monday!
There is more than one way to balance the books, but making poor people poorer should not be one of them.
It's in the tories DNA.
Socialism as practiced by Labour, makes the poor poorer
Yes raise tax on the rich, that's how we rebuilt the country after ww2!
Taxing the rich to the point that they leave your country and take their wealth with them doesn’t work either
@@Agtsmirnoff if they are not contributing then they are useless. Not paying tax here and not investing here the what is their point especially since their wealth isn't even here?
Austerity was not the success Neil thinks it was. It was supposed to do two things: reduce gov't debt after it ballooned from having to bail out the banks, and get the economy back on an even keel (as he said). Austerity failed to achieve either of those goals. Borrowing actually *went up* , in fact the Cameron & Osborne gov't borrowed more than all Labour gov'ts _combined_ . The UK also had the longest and slowest economic recovery in two centuries. Austerity went against prevailing economic wisdom, which is that you do not make cuts in a recession, that dampens economic activity by removing vital resources and funding from an already weakened economy. This was completely borne out when you consider that the Obama administration in the US launched a massive stimulus programme instead of austerity, which succeeded as America's economy bounced back within three years of the financial crash and set up America's future success as it has continued to grow almost uninterrupted ever since.
Austerity was not the result of necessity because it was not based on sound economic principles, it was pure ideology - this is what happens when you put a bunch of Eton and Oxford-educated posh boys and posh girls in charge of running things, people who study things like Classics, Philosophy and Literature (i.e. the subjects of the upper class) instead of degrees that might actually be useful for a political leader to know about, like Economics or International Relations. This is why we are so badly led, again and again. Oh, and austerity also led to Brexit, so there's that too.
NO! It was a disaster
You like to hold the US up as beacon how about Australia
We have not had a serious recession in almost 20 years and the last one was almost just a blip
Was this not like the hoover dam being built to remove america from the great depression
Austerity is a crisis time instrument. It can be necessary when all other instruments failed, even in the form of shock therapy.
But it only can work if it’s a temporary step for a very limited period of time. No longer than two years in an absolutely worst case, it shouldn’t in fact last longer than few months.
Seven years of it is way too much for any nation. It is a textbook way to create a “revolutionary situation” as Lenin described it ("the bottoms don't want and the tops cannot live in the old way" 😂). Brexit came as a revolutionary event in whatever U.K. had become after seven years of austerity.
If only George Osborne campaigned for Leave… we would have stayed! 😅
@@James-dv1df Except instead of seeing something build, it just transferred cash from millions of Britain's poorest, to multimillionaire Tories.
Andrew Neil won't tell anyone that the reason the Tories have collapsed is...the very thing Andrew Neil supported.
Both of those things are not true.
Tories haven’t collapsed because of Brexit
Andrew didn’t support Brexit
Thought Neil was a Brex champion. Looks to be rewriting his legacy again...
He has been careful about not being specific about his view
I think he was a supporter but he can be doubtful about it now
I had to keep reminding myself of that as I watched that clip. Having said that, Neil's analysis here is quite sound... though he left unsaid what I take from this... The UK Government was better for having the Lib Dems in it! Now I wasn't happy with all the things my Party did in coalition and in many ways they were very naive, but when the electorate kicked them out, they got something worse.
Though the situations are very different, the problem with the Brexit Referendum was the same as the war in Iraq.. Nobody asked 'what next' There was no plan.
Neil is Establishment. It's in the DNA of his thinking.
He's too old to be relevant.
I supported the Leave campaign and agree with Andrew Neil that it was the result of the referendum that broke the Party. They were hoping against hope that we would remain, which is why they had no plan to see it through. They forgot the old adage, 'Hope for the best and plan for the worst.' All the shilly-shallying about the Northern Ireland Protocol didn't help either. The country just hoped that the conservative (deliberate small 'c') Government would do what they constantly threatened but the EU just kep calling their bluff and it all made this once proud Nation the laughing-stock of Europe! For Heaven's sake, even the Italians at their worst didn't get through Prime Ministers at the rate we did!
This is an hilarious attempt to rewrite history and make the Tories look less mendacious than they are by the Tory party spokesmen at The Times.
Well said.
It is a deep shame that the Tories broke the country as the collateral damage of destroying themselves.
How can anyone be described as "smart" when they thought they'd get away with lying to parliament and instead turned their legacy from electorally Meidas-like to incompetent buffoon. Sounds like Mr Neil has a vested interest in protecting Boris's image
Covid Afghanistan evacuation climate change war in Ukraine broke the country not the tories.
The british electorate hasn't exactly been innocent in all of it in all its weak-memoried short-sightedness and the media were flat out complicit.
Smarter unsnobby people knew that was the inevitable outcome.
The undemocratic labour is party riding on the back of the pandemic war in Ukraine and the biased remainer media jumped on the band wagon.
Liz Truss has unbeatable record, she buried the Queen, Pound and Torry party in just 49 days 😊
That's a little unfair even though her plans to continue the energy price subsidies were unfunded and a mad idea, a lot of her other ideas were good. Mortgages are now more than they were under Truss and nobody is talking about it or removing Rishi from office, instead he is removing himself by design it seems. The £ didn't fall that much under Truss. I predict the £ will surge under Labour then fall back as they bankrupt the country once more
The elite didn't like her!
@@julieread6306 I don't blame them.
@@julieread6306 Because she was a muppet.
@@julieread6306she’s incompetent.
If memory serves me well; Andrew Neil was a great supporter of the Brexit idea. That clouds this comment big time.
Your memory doesn’t serve you well
The guy flip flops from left to right, just like Boris
Judging by the rivers, tories aren't even the government of feacal responsibility.
Andrew Neil - Brexiter. Nice self-own there Andrew.
Exactly. He’s a bit self unaware isn’t he?
Actually - he has gone on record as saying that he has never revealed which way he voted in the referendum - famously he even said that his wife doesn't know which way he voted. I have to say as well, I have seen be very critical of it on numerous occasions on some of the videos that he has done for The Spectator.
He's no Brexiteer, no chance.
@@alphabetaxenonzzzcat it's not about how he voted, he has just one vote. It's about how he conducted interviews and commented
@@philippenachtergal6077 Farage always got softball interviews from Neil.
Johnson, smart! Who’s he kidding. He was a lying oaf!
This man is a disgrace.
I agree.
he`s as tory as they come and he has to admit its a shitshoiw
hes gone senile if he believes what he's saying ??
Cameron will not be looked on kindly, nor was he as competent as you make out.
There was absolutely no need for austerity at all, interest rates were low, it was the time to invest. That is what the US did, and their economy since 2008 has been night and day compared to ours.
The USA has the world's reserve currency. It enables them to do things which would be impossible for any other economy.
@@georgesdelatourYes, that may be true but the cost of borrowing for GB was extraordinarily low. They could have borrowed money and spent it on targeted policies to encourage growth (reducing corporation tax and basic rate, reforming the NHS, investing in education to reduce reliance on migrants etc.). They didn’t, instead they cut spending on core public services and stupidly thought this wouldn’t affect output or growth, and spent ridiculous amount of money and resources on impractical projects (e.g. HS2, Brexit). And here we are to day - more debt, low growth, broken public services system, and cost of living crisis.
@@GodzillaM693 The cost of borrowing can go up very quickly - see Liz Truss. You can debate the the things they chose to cut and we might agree there, but the government had to show the gilt market public spending was coming down or we could've ended up Greece, Italy, Ireland, Portugal etc. where the markets refused to lend to them and they ended up making massive cuts anyway (the greeks had cuts of >30%). In the end the cuts the 2010-15 Cameron government made were almost exactly what the Labour Chancellor had said he'd have to do in the 2010 election.
There was no austerity under the Tories, it was spend spend spend, in reality. Look at the figures and you will see it. But we needed it, now look at the national debt, meanwhile they see nothing wrong with sending billions upon billions to Ukraine while the UK literally crumbles
Incorrect. Public spending as a percentage of GDP dropped massively from 2010 by the OBR figures. It cranked up massively during the pandemic but very little of that spending went to public services. Most of it went to Tory mates and donors.
Just to clarify. Andrew says there was "Johnson followed by Truss followed by Sunak" and "then the pandemic hit".
Of course, the pandemic actually started in early 2020 just after Johnson became PM, and over two years before either Truss or Sunak were PM.
either way, they received their first risk warnings from the WHO in September 2019.. and did nothing for 6 months
It would be more accurate to say 'the pandemic response hit' because as Sweden showed us, our pandemic response was a massive, costly, overbearing boondoggle of a response, that in the end cost more lives than it saved and saddled the British taxpayer with eye-watering amounts of debt.
@@peterappleby1628Hear Hear! Some sense and reason in the comments. Covid lockdowns are the elephant in the room. Virtually every major problem of the last few years is a direct result of the highly inflationary economic policies undertaken by the government in 2020. Who needs socialism when you have the UK tory party!
@@peterappleby1628spot on
@@DJWESG1 The WHO, like the WEF are evil. The government should ignore them totally. They are our government, not unelected globalists abroad
Cameron and Osborne's austerity and Brexit has damaged the UK almost beyond repair policies that Andrew Neil cheered on.
It was inevitable, crucial to balance the books. Labour tripe about ''austerity'' was extremely misguided and irresponsible.
Brexit has not damaged the UK. Not doing it properly hasn’t helped.
@@ianrowley5762 It's you vs the trade experts, economists and data
@@adampeckham8541 researched it
@@user-yi6ui6pn4iOnly the really tribal and blinkered tories think austerity was necessary
It was a political choice. You don't get growth in the economy by squeezing living standards. Even the tories now realise that. How do you think Roosevelt turned the USA into a powerhouse after the depression and Atlee turn Britain around after the war.? By spending money to build things and get the economy growing. Both Roosevelt and Atlee knew to grow the economy you spend on infrastructure and public services. The money was borrowed to do this and paid back out of the economic growth. Brexit and Austerity has caused where we are now.
So we have a Tory shoeshine boy giving us his take on how wonderful 14 years of Tory nightmare politics really is .
No Andrew you're totally wrong on this and you should be ashamed .
Pre Brexit wasn't quite good - it was a time of deliberate austerity, the aim of which was to reduce the size of government, and this led to the present state of the NHS and all the public services.
"Boris Johnson... authentic". Said with a straight face... can I have some of whatever Andrew Neil's on?
Andrew says that Truss was elected by "only" 200k Conservative party members, implying that that was insufficient numbers to give her both a mandate and legitimacy.
Andrew then goes on to praise Sunak as PM, but, of course, Sunak wasn't elected by anyone, and was rejected by Conservative members. So, surely his mandate and legitimacy are even less?
Neither have a mandate or legitimacy.
Should have gone to the country if they wanted to oust Johnson.
The lettuce should have got in.
If one PM is replaced by another during the term, then that's politics. A new election should really be called within two years, unless an election would happen within that time anyway- but it's no biggie.
If that new leader fails before the following election, however, then a general election should be called immediately.
@@zwabTheRealOne : Johnson had the option of calling an election instead of resigning.
He was the preferred candidate of MPs which works to reflect public opinion because they want to hold onto their own seats. We don't have a presidential system where people vote directly for the prime minister they want but MPs of the party in power choosing fits with the spirit of a representative democracy.
@@gareth2736 Of course we don't technically have a presidential system, this does not change the fact that many vote in a way that reflects whom they wish to see running the country.
If we're getting technical about it, the mandate is tied to the manifesto, something which both Truss and Sunak have actively and knowingly worked against.
So the point still stands, it should have gone to the country.
It was poor before the Brexit referendum and absolutely appalling after it. The worst period of conservative rule in living memory. Who in 2010 could have predicted the damage they have done to our economy, essential public services and governance over the last 14 years? Quite unprecedented for any party.
Andrew Neil, from his privileged position, has no clue about the extent to which the Tories have harmed the ordinary citizen of this country. THAT's why they are so hated.
John Major told them during the referendum that it would destroy the party. The electorate would come for them with a reckoning the likes that have never been seen before.
Major is a muppet who stabbed Maggie in the back over the EEC. A nasty cheating man obsessed with the EU
That was already happening before brexit, Only reason why Cameron gave a ref ,he thought the decision either way would put it to bed once and for all
Brexit did not break any party, their own incompetence did.
It wasn't "incompetence" - it was planned.
Huh? Their incompetence (and fear of UKIP) led directly to Brexit, the degrading of the UK and the disintegration of the Tory party.
Brexit broke the country so why should it not have broken the people who delivered it.
Brexit being that incompetent thing they did.
What Brexit promised was undeliverable. No govt could make a success of such a spectacular act of self-harm. The problem was not the EU; it was the Tories governing for themselves and not the country.
I am surprised anyone still listens to Andrew Neil, I gave it a go but gave up after 4 minutes, he is a true blue Tory trying to forget his past
"the national finances had got back together'??? B***S***.
Describes Boris as 'smart' and 'authentic'... nuf said.
why isn't this comment at the top? Johnson is a pathological lying upper class twit.
Arrogance + ignorance = brexit
Also he made the assertion that reducing welfare was the only way to save money following the financial crash, how about taxing wealth instead?
Because he would have been affected.
Austerity was based on a flawed study, literally an error in an Excel spreadsheet.
There was no austerity under the Tories, it was spend spend spend, in reality. Look at the figures and you will see it
@@voice.of.reason Austerity is code for slashing public services. Obviously funneling vast amounts of borrowed taxpayer cash to dole out to your already wealthy mates isn't austerity. Local government budgets are now half of what they were in 2010 and local services have been trashed. That's austerity. 900 Billion went to tory stooges during the pandemic and no one can account for how it was spent or where its gone.
Says the guy that thought GB News was a good idea.
Cameron and Osborne's austerity and Brexit vote was not "okay", Mr Neil.
Brexit vote was fine. We should have never joined without a referendum.
Austerity was needed after the shambles the Liebour party left the country in.
When gay marriage is your main achievement, it doesn’t say much for your premiership
@@ianrowley5762 Entry was ratified by a referendum. 67% yes, 33% no. Compared to 52% 48% for Brexit.
@@jesush.tap-dancingchrist7328 Erm history not your strong point then?. The UK joined the Common Market which was a very different thing to the European Union. It really isn't that difficult to learn the history. Even google gets most of it correct. Now pop off, educate yourself on the facts and come back and debate. You silly boy.
5:17 - the one thing that Boris Johnson was NOT was 'authentic'!
Russian money / influence broke the tory party, and Britain.
Recall Cambridge Analytica and Putin brought us both Brexit and, right after that trial run, Trump. Putin's aim to destroy the EU, NATO and the US so he could take Ukraine (and restore all the USSR) was well on its way. Bannon and right wing billionaire Mercer ran CA.
This ignores the incredible damage that austerity did to the UK public services, which is now undermining the growth of the economy. Almost every problem the uk has is tied to austerity, immigaration -(lack of training in uk workers), lack of housing (little investment in housing infrastructure) University (student visas) prisons (lack of prison places) Healthcare (High levels of mental health problems, record numbers of people to sick to work. almost complete failure of social care) not to mention the incredible levels of poverty.
If you are sitting in a mansion in France it is easy to miss the cold hard reality and havoc austerity has created.
The lack of social mobility and creation of an elite who have too much money to care is at the heart of the conservative problems and those of the uk.
2:57 Basically describing that from the outset even brexiteers had no purpose for Brexit. Such a pointless, utterly demolishing thing to have aspired and done. Britain's biggest failure of all time, past, present and whatever rests us of the future.
Rishi smart and patriotic really !!! I’m guessing this was recorded before today
Yes it makes me sick
If any future commenter stumbles upon this months or years from now, the context here is that Sunak left a gathering/memorial of our soldiers before the main event started.
Other major European powers were all represented by their relevant prime ministers or presidents, including president zelensky of Ukraine, despite the fact his own country is actively at war.
Why did sunak leave early? To film an ITV interview believed at the time of writing to be a way for him to lie about the fact he has definitely been proven to have lied about labour spending plans at the first leadership debate of the general election campaign.
Sunak himself set the date for this interview to be recorded.
The interview in question doesn't even air until just under a week from now...
Probably two weeks ago according to Tory publishing tactics
Andrew Neil sounds like he is reading an obituary of the Tory Party.
It is...
A lot of this is revisionist history Mr. Neil.
My eyesight must be going; I thought the headline was 'Andrew Neil brutally analises 14-year-old Conservative'.
The irony of Andrew Neil commenting on the chaos of Brexit and not mentioning that he is a Brexiteer will not be lost on intelligent viewers
Do keep up, he said this for views and reaction and boy many people have fallen for it
14 years of chaos and failure. And we have paid the price.
If Liebour get in there will be 5 years of chaos and failure.
David Cameron held the 2016 EU referendum in a bid to keep the Conservative party united.
Job done, old bean.
Well, the Conservative party won an 80 seat majority in 2019 on that issue.
@@danielberry4765 That was down to Boris -get brexit done- line, as people were sick and tired of it dragging on and on.
and Corbyns sitting on the fence
Allways thought Johnson would bring himself down. Never in my wildest dreams did I think he would bring the Conservative party down to its knees as well. Thankyou Boris. G
Acting as if he wasn't enabling and complicit.
Disgusting
Its was Cameron who put party before country and ended up letting in Johnson and Truss.
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Some of us are more concerned about how Tory Brexit broke the British economy.
And how has that affected you?
The reaction to it may have had a major part in this.
When you look at the facts, Brexit is pretty neutral so far and with positive long term effects. Covid broke all Western economies to varying degrees unless you're going to tell us Brexit did all that?
What are you talking about ? No such thing happened.
@@paullarneUK is the only country in Europe yet to be back to pre pandemic levels because of brexit. Treasury own figures show that brexit has cost more than all the payments UK made to the E U from day one. As for your point of looking good for the future, every forecast puts the UK with a smaller GDP purely because of brexit. Take off your rosy coloured specs.
And you and your paymasters have backed the tories year on year. You should be ashamed of what you have cheered them on to do.
We can all ignore this tory shill, he has been an enabler and failed to report fairly on what was happening. Sack him now,(about 13 years too late).
Can we please stop this nonsense that austerity was necessary? It was simply a political choice. You can agree or disagree with it; that's fine. But it was still a choice.
Correct.
There was no austerity under the Tories, it was spend spend spend, in reality. Look at the figures and you will see it
@@voice.of.reason Sure, let's look at some figures. These figures are government spending as a percentage of gdp. 2009, 46.3 percent. 2012, 44 percent. 2016/17, 40.2 percent. 2018/19, 39.4 percent. I hope you live in Clacton and get the candidate you truly deserve. You know, the one who loves you so much he said, "Do I want to be an MP? Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?"
If there had t been any “austerity” the Govt would have run up £500 billion in debt by 2016 (the annual deficit was £120 billion pa) when Cameron took power.
He thinks he’s played a great hand in never revealing where he stood on Brexit but he was every second in the Leave camp. Present at too many meetings and parties where it was devised, planned and eventually celebrated. Glad he’s no longer on tv as a presenter.
The whole lot of them are a self serving rabble. It's time for change
Yes and not of the red rosette kind
Isn't this guy part of the problem????
The Tories started going down the pan when they appointed Cameron as leader.
Cameron’s austerity was not necessary. It was engineered to reward wealthy people and starve social services. “Never let a crisis go to waste,” as they say.
It's a strange kind of 'reward' where you let people keep slightly more of their own money.
Was not real either.
Public spending every single year since 2010 has been a higher proportion of our money than in any single year from 97-07
Untrue.
@@danielwebb8402Tell that to the councils who suffered cuts of up to 58%.public sector wages were frozen for two years and then increased below inflation.Benefits had the same done to them.
@royboy565
"Yes spending overall wasn't austere. But it went down in areas X and Y, whilst up by even more in A, B and C. Therefore it was austere."
Neil seems to forget he supported the Tories and Brexit.
Pretty much a lesson in the obvious from Neil.
To suggest that Cameron was a decent leader is truly dillusional , he was the weakness that caused the Brexit chaos and the cruelty of his cuts aimed at the poorer classes.
His messing up of Libya meant that intervention in Syria was impossible, which stoked the migrant crisis, which when he held a referendum, ultimately helped deliver Brexit.
Cameron and Osborne starved the disabled poor to death en masse. Huge progress Andrew.
he overlooked that little part..
Name one disabled person who starved to death during that time.
Yet mortality improved under them for the poorest decile.
@@danielwebb8402 the excess death rates say otherwise.
@@danielwebb8402 We're going to need some proof here.
Until The Conservative party admit and apologise their Brexit was a mistake and caused harm to the whole country The Tories will never taste power forever.
Many economists would disagree with your analysis of austerity. Years of austerity are the cause of the near collapse of the NHS and the dire pockets of poverty in the UK. You totally lost me when you said that Johnson was authentic, was that some kind of a sick joke? The Tories have been a catastrophe for the UK for the whole time they have been in government. At least I now know that I can take your predictions for the future with a bucket of salt.
Andrew describes Rishi Sunak as "decent, smart, hard-working, patriot". Which part of Sunak's defecating on the D-day celebration was decent and smart? And which one was patriotic? Please ask Andrew to clarify further.
It broke mr I live in France but support brexit..clueless
Does he support Brexit ?.
Er - Boris Johnson as 'authentic'!? And Rishi Sunak as 'a patriot' - he left the D Day events early!
There was no belt tightening for the rich and Tory donors during austerity.
There was no austerity
Brexit is this massive elephant that no one is talking about. This has to be confronted
Why? It was a lawful democratic vote, highly biassed toward remain. The people voted to leave. Rightly or wrongly we have left the EU.. Make the best of it.
Its history now and for a long time to come. There's no going back in the short term at least and probably never.
Brexit also split the Labour party, which is how Johnston got his landslide. So fairly easy to see why neither main party would want to confront it. Alienating half your potential voters is not the smartest move. Surely you can see that?
@@bobbailey7024 Very biased also at the 1975 Referendum,...very, very one-sided to stay in...ie BBC/media/civil service/establishment
and liberal chattering classes all in on it,...it was a fait accomplit.
@@alanrobertson9790 fair point, but until we do this chaos will continue
The public should have never have bailed out the banks.
Don't be silly.
I'd like to agree, but the Govt had no choice, if the banks crash Just about everything goes with them
We 'bailed out' the banks
Goldilocks economy? What bloody planet is he on?
“Authentic” is not a word I would associate with Boris
He thinks Boris Johnson's smart?
But Andrew, Austerity didn't work.
One, we were still borrowing and mounting up the national debt. Two, what was the alternative to pulling back on spending? Just keep spending and spending money you don't have?
@@ManForToday : Government spending boosts the consumer economy as it creates jobs, and causes the people with jobs to spend their pay on consumer products.
@@ManForToday Hasn't worked has it? Remember every pound you spend on something doesn't disappear, it goes on to be spent somewhere else in the economy and then again somewhere else. Not to know this is economically illiterate. Keynesian economics worked for decades, the housekeeping analogy is absurd.
@@timonsolus So why not just spend everything and boost the consumer economy to the max with all the jobs and pay you need? Think of the logical conclusion. If that worked as simple as that, then why wouldn't you go the whole hog?
@@ManForToday : Because government has to service the national debt, and pay interest on the debt. Also the debt can’t go too high, otherwise the markets will get frightened that the government might not be able to pay it back.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry. How about incompetence and greed? That covers Brexit, austerity and the pandemic in two words.
There was no austerity though.
Instead of coming up with a plan for brexit, they spent that time bickering over who would be in charge of that plan.
A lot of torys who didnt want Brexit were in charge
Why isn't Andrew wearing his hotdog costume and looking for the guy who did this?
Hey guys! Greetings from August 2008, things are going great! What have I got to look forward to over the next 15 or so years, oh...
Brexit will control our borders, austerity will balance the books and make us solvent again, UK will be admired all over the world and we will have a comedian as P M followed by even funnier people.
How can this guy describe the Cameron/Osborne years as such a benign period. It's true that any government in that period would have had no choice other than to reduce spending, but the particular choices and scale of cuts decided on by these idiots are the real reason that public services are in such an incredible mess at the moment. The post Brexit governments have made lots of others massive mistakes, but the austerity of 2010 to 2015 has been devastating to the public.
Even as it was happening it was absolutely obvious that the real downsides wouldn't become apparent for a decade, and this is indeed what has happened.
Over the previous decades, local authorities had been diligently developing services that focussed on prevention of crime, prevention of illnesses, education of young parents, day care for the elderly, youth services, respite care for young and old etc etc. This is all absolutely essential to PREVENT problems developing to such a significant level that the really expensive services such as the Police, NHS etc have to become involved. So the reality is that those local services, although a cost to local government, were actually delivering a nett saving to the national public purse. Yet it is precisely those services which austerity targeted. Removing these preventative services meant that suddenly there was no buffer to keep problems from eventually escalating and requiring expensive intervention. This was quite obvious, as that is precisely the reason why these services were developed in the first place. This is the major reason why the NHS is currently overwhelmed, it's not just underfunded, demand has inevitably sky rocketed (so no, it's not migrants), it's the lack of preventative local services for the indigenous population.
Now the country is suffering the disastrous consequences of these decisions, as a direct result of the short sighted decisions, seeking short term cost savings at the expense of massive long term costs. And all totally foreseeable and all deliberately targeted because they knew it would take years for the problems to come to light so they could crow about cost savings without having to answer for the dreadful consequences!!!
Cameron and Osborne have a lot to answer for.
Andrew don't forget you were supportive of Cameron's Brexit Referendum decision, the beginning of the end for the Tory's, and from then cheered the hard Brexiteers on.
Brexit has been a disaster from the beginning and no-one explained to the people what it actually meant as no-one genuinely thought Brexiteers would win. So here we are all paying for poor leadership.
Andrew Neil - there were some foreign adventures in Libya". Totally unnecessary campaign that the excellent Peter Hitchens used to dub Cameroon as "Lord Slippery of Tripoli".
"unnecessary campaign" ? Gaddafi wasn't supportive of the EU's Union of the Mediterranean. He had to go.
Glad someone else noticed that. "there were some foreign adventures in Libya which were not a great success" - classic British understatement!
Why did they want Brexit and what were the benefits and to whom ?
Andrew Neils poison has played a big part in the downfall of the UK
Analysis of 14 years of Tory government failings, done in 9 minutes, and not 1 mention of mass immigration. Quite an achievement, Andrew.
Theresa Mae is an honorable woman and did the best she could. This is all about optics. Johnson's "deal" is the exact same as hers. He didn't do anything different.
She was a horrible snake...
She May compare well to her successors, but that’s not exactly the highest bar… She had a responsibility to unify the country and did precisely the opposite. Utterly awful.
The only way Johnsons deal differed was to have a border in the Irish Sea. Having said that it won't happen. Just another little lie from Johnson.
@@ColinMaxwell-oc1ok Give me one reason?
@@mickeysmouse4800 "Unifty the country"? LOL How, how to unify Brexiteers with everyone else? You honestly believe she had that power? There was only Brexit and Remain, and Brexiteers NEVER listen. The whole country has tried,
Brexit and the Tories:-
"We didn't break the vase when we deliberately knocked it over. The ground did, when it landed."
Andrew just described Boris as "authentic" I am going to go and puke now.
Used to think Neil was smart but he is now consistently proving me wrong. Time for pipe and slippers Andrew.
100%
He was never smart, just conservative.
Brexit was so bad idea that it would have broken any party.
Well it seems to be breaking the uniparty. Whoop whoop!
I remember the Tory slogan "We are all in it together".
What lies the Tories told.
The reality was the rich got richer and the poor got poorer.
With food banks opening in every community forcing UK men, women and children to use food banks to survive.
With Westminster Tory austerity since 2010.
Austerity from 2010-2016 under Cameron DIDNT WORK. The debt got worse. Look it up. It was entirely ideological. They were terrible years for me and people I know.
Blair broke the Tory party. The Tories became enamoured of Blair for some reason. They failed to see that he is a Trotskyist revoltionary.