@@MilesAwayOfficialso hard to say! The prophet seems to excel at softer sounds whereas the brighter more open sounds on the e7 sound more open and airy, less constricted than the P6. The prophet sounds a bit dull by comparison but is so lush for the right sound. Think I may have to give it to the e7 in general! It sounds more open and lively.
@@MilesAwayOfficialok, I just finished watching this for a 3rd time (hahaha), and I think I like the bright sound of the E7 AND the smoother sound of the Prophet. I think if I had to pick one, my heart and gut say E7, but my brain (knowing I’d have to EQ out the fatness and brightness) would pick the Prophet 6 as a module. No winners or losers in this analysis because they bought sound fantastic. Guess it depends if you want super fat or refined and smooth ?
@@googlingthevoid You can get the E7 to be very warm and fat - it all depends on which waveform you choose and how you set the cutoff and filter envelope.
After you convinced me to get a Summit, which I really like, I've been thinking about the E7 and now you have thrown a review up it seems to be right up my street.
Something about the triangle wave oscillator on the E7 is one of the most incredible sounding triangle waves I’ve ever heard. The whole synth sounds so good!
Thanks as always for the demo/review! I had both. I really really loved the tone of the GS E7, but in daily use i couldn't get past the filter quirks. The loss of bass was so immediate with any use of the resonance that i ended up so often having to move to my modular instead. I think the prophet is more versatile, and has better effects overall, and a used one will cost just a touch more than a new GS, which was amazing when it launched at 1250, but now at 1700 is slightly harder to factor in. I think the GS is vibier overall, more inspiring, but works only if one has another few synths, it would be hard to consider as a main axe for me. The prophet on the other end is 94% there, vibe wise, but could potentially be a one for all starter analog. I hope GS has a way of maintaining the amazing sound with a more versatile VCF and a slightly improved digital chorus.
Well said! I definitely do like the Prophet filter more, that's probably the one area where the E7 does take some tweaking but it sounds so good once you find the sweet spot.
Well done, fantastic vid and Perfect Circuit have sold out now! I must admit the E7 sounds great, but I do still love my P6. I'd be very interested in a comparison between the E7 & 3rd Wave though. Not necessarily a 'Versus', but how they could compliment each other as a Digital/Analog combo with the Ladder, State Variable & Prophet filters. Although I'd def watch a 'Versus' video too!
I like the chorus on the E7. It sounds as good as stuff you'd find in DAWs and such. Also cool on the E7 is the really small OLED. It is so crisp. That surprised me. I think for my money I'd take the E7 even though the module workflow is a challenge for me in terms of ergonomics. I'd prefer an integrated instrument with a keybed and all. Modules are just, well, awkward. The only way to work them is sort of that L shape you got setup in this video. Still, I bought one. That said I'm sure I would be happy with the P6 as well. It sounds nice too. Extra voice on the E7 is also maybe a point to the E7? Every little bit helps in that department. More of an exponential curve on the envelopes is also a bit of a point for the E7 I guess. I've always found sequential envelopes kind of difficult to dial in. Linear envelopes might be just weird though I don't know. Unnatural a bit in both sound and behaviour. I'd give the E7 a nod in the sound department too but that's a subjective thing. No point in debating. Just go with what you like more personally. Great comparison thanks.
Miles - this is GREAT! Thank you for this review/comparison. You might have covered it and I missed it, but what about the HPF of the P6? That was something I was kind of digging about that board when I tried it out recently. I found the P6 so easy to get around, but the E7 looks very straightforward as well.
Thank you! And you are absolutely right I missed covering the HP filter there, but that’s for sure a point to the P6, I wish every synth had a built in HP filter, and the P6’s is great sounding and modulatable. Super useful for getting the P6 to mix in nicely with others, which it’s so good at.
Good point. A HPF is definitely on my wishlist for the next GSMusic synth. Doesn‘t need an envelope, just one frequency knob/fader like on vintage Rolands. Of course you can dial out bass mud by the resonance on a ladder filter, but then the e7 tends to scream. Not easy to find the sweet spot.
Great comparison! The E7 sounds ultra vintage, fat and drifty in a lovely way. The P6 sounds cleaner, more modern and slightly thinner. I love my Toraiz AS-1 (one P6 voice but gain staged for a thicker sound) paired with a Minilogue XD for a compact desktop setup :)
My thoughts exactly Sarah! Thanks for watching! And that's a great set up, the XD is such a great synth, sounds just like my Prologue. Will eventually try to do a video and patches on it!
True - on paper they are more similar! But I had been hearing on forums more buzz about comparing these two, since the P6 is a lot more well known than the Trigon I think. Also I don't own a Trigon, so there's that too LOL
@@MilesAwayOfficial Doesn‘t matter for me any longer - ordered an *E7* today. :)) I suggest you buy a Super Gemini; there are more than enough P10 reviews.
Sequential synths have quantized filter cut-off, so that when you turn up the resonance into self oscillation, the filter is quantized to half notes. It makes it much easier to "tune" the filter if you want to play the self oscillation as an oscillator. The vintage Prophets does this too. But when the filter cut-off is modulated by an envelope or LFO, the cut-off point moves smoothly.
I get that - and I love Sequential but I am not a fan of the stepped filter. I find I rarely tune the filter to notes, whereas I love writing in live filter animation. Different use cases I guess!
Is there any way to disable the stepped/quantized filter on the Prophet 5 or 6? I’d rather just use my ears and instead gain the freedom of a smooth filter sweep
I mean... holy shite analog poly's are just so cool. E7 sounds so good. I'm so proud to own a P6. I'll go months without touching it then one day it will suck me in and take me away. Thanks Miles.
I'd love to review one. Problem is I have limited space and nothing I'd like to sell to free up funds for one, and the synth is too old now to get a review unit. However, if I ever find one locally to rent I will absolutely review it and do a patch bank, it looks fantastic!
@@MilesAwayOfficial I understand, I have the same issue with space and gear I do not want to swap out, hehe. I love to watch your reviews, so I hope you find a polybrute one day :) Cheers!
Fair point! I am a huge Sequential fan but I will 100% go on record saying the E7 is built much more robustly than my Prophet 6. I would put money on the E7 outlasting my Prophet. But Sequential give the best support ever so I dont worry about either
Thank you! The only synth I could compare this sound to is the Memorymoog. For me it’s a modern Memorymoog in a box. I mean this as a huge compliment, and I hope this company thrives! I like the blue one but the black/red one may be better for work at night.🤔
Thanks! I gain match as closely as i can in logic after, then hit the master with a compressor/limiter, but its never gonna be totally exact, since even different patches in the same synth have different volumes
I really can't decide between the E7 and the Prophet, they're both clearly amazing in their own right and there really isn't a clear winner for me. The thing that is making me lean towards the E7 is the price, the additional voice, and that it seems to be a bit more versatile (more LFO's), but the Prophet's filter sounds a bit better than the E7's to my ears but that could probably be compensated for in mixing. If you had to choose one as your main subtractive poly synth, which one would you choose?
it's a tough choice for sure! if you like the sound of the E7 I would personally go for it. It sounds more vintage and wild than the Prophet 6. But, if you make mostly modern music like dance or pop then the Prophet is just unbeatable, it fits into any mix in any genre. I will have custom patches for the E7 soon, if that helps your decision.
@@MilesAwayOfficial I see, I tend to make more experimental kinds of music and the wildness of the E7 that you also described I think suits me better. If you end up making any vids on some new patches you got for the E7 I'll be on the lookout for those, there really aren't enough videos on the unit.
I checked it's specs: just like the Prophet 6, it's slightly too big to fit into a 19" rack - this would've been a selling point for me, but they made the same mistake as Dave Smith there. Also MIDI implementation is THE BEST with everything Dave Smith touched. For example, you change a preset by sending a LSB 0-9 and then a program change 0-99. GS chose some obscure MSB, LSB and PC 0-127 combination, making it impossible to get a preset right without consulting the manual. That's a big minus.
Great feedback! You might want to reach out to Guido and see if the midi cc thing is something they could update. He recently coded a patch exporter/renamer based on feedback, so he is probably the most receptive to user feedback of any synth maker I know
I wouldn’t write off a wonderful sounding synth just because it doesn’t have poly AT. There are some really great synths out there with poly AT, but for what you get with this synth already is pretty amazing.
I love my e7. I think sometimes it’s a bit intense in the mids, can muddle up the mix without some EQing. The Prophet just drops in any track with like no effort, though. I think that’s partly why it’s such a classic. Both synths friggin rip, though!
They look amazing! I’d love to get one eventually. Also very interested in trying the OTO Boum, looks sick as well. I don’t currently own any stereo distortions and use in the box plugins.
The P6 desktop is $700 more which is almost half again the E7, but in the long run for most is that enough to pick one over the other? The extra LFOs, extra voice, and above all multi-timbrality I think would win it for me were I looking right now. Things lie two 3 voice layered patches mapped to one side of a keybed with 1 voice mapped to the other is a BIG capability IMHO. Both have MPE which is also nice. However, Sequential does have the "vintage" (various per voice offsets) knob which is all kinds of special.
@@ghost_mall I did not mean to imply I would pick the P6 desktop if looking for this general type of synth around $2k. E7 all day every day and twice on Sunday. The additional LFOs, multi-timbrality, and stereo capabilities open up a LOT of places none of the monotimbral Sequential synths can even dream of going for a lousy $100 more than a Take 5. The only small thing they MIGHT be able to add is optional slight per voice offset capabilities.
Yea even price aside I think it's a tough choice, the E7 just does so much and sounds so good! But the P6 is classic and I really like mine. Thanks for watching!
About 50/50! I still use my OB-6 the most cause its just so fast and I know it well, but for anything ambient I go to the 3rd Wave, and the OBX8 is for bread and butter.
@@MilesAwayOfficial not sure.... My OB6 desktop IS going, and Ill grab the OB8x desktop with a dedicated Eventide H90. I currently then have polybrute, and P6 desktop for analogues. Its a tough call TBH.... I have the 3rd wave of course. PB/Trigon keyboard are the 2 options there, keep P6, or swap for the E7 or possibly Nina..... What Im trying to get is top quality, as well as variation while not loosing the classic sounds....in a space that holds 2 keyboards and 2 desktops. The 3rd wave and OBx8 desktop are firm as 1 of each - so iits what fills the other keybaord and desktop slots.
@@paulmapp8306 we are really similar - my OBX8 and 3rd Wave are my two "never selling/always on", since they just compliment eachother so well, and I'm in no rush but eventually I'd like to sell my Prophet 6 for a Prophet 5/10, but I could totally see an E7 replacing that as well. Your choice is tough. but I think no matter what you will end up happy with a great array of keys~!
@@MilesAwayOfficial I ruled a Prophet 10 out last week lol. A/Bd for a while OIB6 v OBx8 and P6 v P10. I didnt like the overly mid range of the P10. Teh filter resonance and voice interaction was nicer - but the overall tone and actually liveliness of the P6 over the P5 left me preferring the 6. Hence thinking Nina or e7 for the desktop. I really liked the tone of my Pro3 but just couldnt gell with a mono. Im a player first and foremost and single notes killed me - even though Im an 80s fan and most of those are intertwined single note melodies single - but I just cant work that way. the Trigon seems much closer to the Pro3s tone than the others (not exactly the same but very similar). Hence thinking Trigon instead of Polybrute (or wait until that is in desktop form and replace P6 but keep PB). always a tough choice.
I think this was a missed opportunity. Effects are meh, but rather, what I miss the most is modulation matrix. It does sound nice when dialing bread and butter analog patches tho. Missing q compensation.
Fair, I mention in my first review I really miss cross mod for analog FM, but pretty much everything else I'd want a matrix for is moddable using the front panel knobs
hey- mentioned this to another commenter: I tried to gain match them as close as possible in Logic, and then there is a mastering chain on the entire logic project (both synths and my voice) that is compressing down / limiting both synths. So there might be a small discrepancy of human error but the levels are a lot closer than you think
@@MilesAwayOfficial I’ll take your word for it, sounded distinctly different volumes to me. Adjust the levels from the synths directly and use monitoring plugins would be how I would approach it. No mastering chain, raw sound db matched. Anything over a db is perceivable. Mastering chain on your mic channel if needed. You probably did this though so avoid my ramblings.
7 voices? How strange. Why not 8? Anyway, this E7 sounds really really nice! Almost, dare I say it, Oberheimy in a sort of way? The filter is obviously a Moog one though. Thanks for sharing this interesting comparison. BTW, where did you get the GS Music E7 from?
That G7 seems like a cool synth, but I suppose that between the Rev 2, P6 and Pro 800 I've got it mostly covered :) Still nice to see that there's such a wealth of synths to choose from these days.
Ok you have made the classic mistake of not matching the levels correctly. (On purpose perhaps!) The Prophet 6 is 2 to 3 db lower all the time compared to the GS so you need to fix this. In your video the GS is louder so people will think its better. Also I have a fiend who plays a lot live in London and he is a Prophet 6 user. He says he has tried everything and the Prophet 6 is more powerful live than anything else. That says it all.
Hey, I tried to gain match them as close as possible in Logic, and then there is a mastering chain on the entire logic project (both synths and my voice) that is compressing down / limiting both synths. So there might be a small discrepancy of human error but the levels are a lot closer than you think
Its best to record the synths direct from their outputs straight to the video recording software input when making comparisons. Nothing in between. And using a VU meter so that both deflect the needle an identical amount. Mastering chains are changing the sound of both synths way too much. I often find when I get the actual synths here in the flesh and patch them right to my mixbus they sound 10 times better than they do on RUclips.
i get what you are saying, but in order to not have the video's audio mix of my voice, synth 1 and synth 2 be super quiet due to variable dynamics, the audio mix needs to have some light compression and mastering. Sadly most people click away on youtube videos if they are not commercially loud. I try to make sure I am altering the sound as little as possible, but Synths will always sound best in person@@jeffevansmusic
Sequential imposing their idea is better (resonant filter sweep on P6) is a big reason I now look elsewhere. I just tried a Vermona Perfourmer controlled by a Rev-2 and pitch bend behaved in a stepped way too. This doesn’t happen when controlling with the Virus. I am sick of Sequential giving reasons.
I mean you can't compare a giant corporation that manufactures mass production with low wages in China vs a boutique small company that makes everything by hand in house...
Ok were here, thats seems like cheap entertainment and fuss. I am very excited how the g7 ever can be something like prophet. G7 is very different and it has nothing to do with the prophet at all. Very excited what this means.
I've responded to this kind of comment before: it takes so much time to make these videos, and I don't make much $ off them, so why would I waste my time making videos shitting on synths I don't like?
Yesterday I was looking for buying the E7 that was on sale for $1489 on perfect circuit, but they got sold, and I ended getting the Oberheim Teo 5 ❤, since my matrix 6 is broken 👎🏼
Sorry about the broken Matrix! Hope you can get that fixed! How do you like the TEO 5? I ordered one from Sequential but its delayed til August. Going to do a video and custom patches so stay tuned!
With all my love for Sequential, the GS e7 won me over. Brilliant from Argentina
Thanks for watching and awesome to hear!
I’m looking at both of these right now, so I’m excited to hear your thoughts. Thanks for putting this together!
My pleasure! Let me know what you think, which do you prefer?
@@MilesAwayOfficialso hard to say! The prophet seems to excel at softer sounds whereas the brighter more open sounds on the e7 sound more open and airy, less constricted than the P6. The prophet sounds a bit dull by comparison but is so lush for the right sound. Think I may have to give it to the e7 in general! It sounds more open and lively.
@@MilesAwayOfficialok, I just finished watching this for a 3rd time (hahaha), and I think I like the bright sound of the E7 AND the smoother sound of the Prophet. I think if I had to pick one, my heart and gut say E7, but my brain (knowing I’d have to EQ out the fatness and brightness) would pick the Prophet 6 as a module. No winners or losers in this analysis because they bought sound fantastic. Guess it depends if you want super fat or refined and smooth ?
@@googlingthevoid You can get the E7 to be very warm and fat - it all depends on which waveform you choose and how you set the cutoff and filter envelope.
Wooohoo new channel unlock ❤ wow dude great videos i am inspired to make music onthis holiday.
Thank you and welcome! So happy I can inspire you :) new synth videos weekly on this channel
After you convinced me to get a Summit, which I really like, I've been thinking about the E7 and now you have thrown a review up it seems to be right up my street.
Thanks for watching! I actually did a full review of the E7 by itself too if you didn't see that one: ruclips.net/video/uXzNJEbrZqE/видео.html
Same here. 🤣
Love your custom patches - I just bought them and will use some "out of the box" for new songs.
Thanks for this video. I actually just received my E7 today and it's incredible
Congrats ! Stay tuned here I’m working on E7 custom patches :)
P6 all the way!
its a classic for a reason!
Something about the triangle wave oscillator on the E7 is one of the most incredible sounding triangle waves I’ve ever heard. The whole synth sounds so good!
it's so good! A lot of the custom patches in the bank I am working on use the triangle, for that reason
The E7 is pretty great - hope more people get their hands on one!
Agreed! Thanks for watching :)
Amazing sounds ☺♥♪
Thank you!
Killer track! I almost bought the E7 but ended up with the Trigon-6 as my poly synth
That looks great too! How do you like the Trigon?
@@MilesAwayOfficial it’s a beast. I love the layout and it compliments my Matriarch nicely.
Thanks as always for the demo/review! I had both. I really really loved the tone of the GS E7, but in daily use i couldn't get past the filter quirks. The loss of bass was so immediate with any use of the resonance that i ended up so often having to move to my modular instead. I think the prophet is more versatile, and has better effects overall, and a used one will cost just a touch more than a new GS, which was amazing when it launched at 1250, but now at 1700 is slightly harder to factor in. I think the GS is vibier overall, more inspiring, but works only if one has another few synths, it would be hard to consider as a main axe for me. The prophet on the other end is 94% there, vibe wise, but could potentially be a one for all starter analog. I hope GS has a way of maintaining the amazing sound with a more versatile VCF and a slightly improved digital chorus.
Well said! I definitely do like the Prophet filter more, that's probably the one area where the E7 does take some tweaking but it sounds so good once you find the sweet spot.
Well done, fantastic vid and Perfect Circuit have sold out now! I must admit the E7 sounds great, but I do still love my P6. I'd be very interested in a comparison between the E7 & 3rd Wave though. Not necessarily a 'Versus', but how they could compliment each other as a Digital/Analog combo with the Ladder, State Variable & Prophet filters. Although I'd def watch a 'Versus' video too!
Thank you! That's great to hear, I hope more people get this synth. And cool idea! :)
I like the chorus on the E7. It sounds as good as stuff you'd find in DAWs and such. Also cool on the E7 is the really small OLED. It is so crisp. That surprised me. I think for my money I'd take the E7 even though the module workflow is a challenge for me in terms of ergonomics. I'd prefer an integrated instrument with a keybed and all. Modules are just, well, awkward. The only way to work them is sort of that L shape you got setup in this video. Still, I bought one. That said I'm sure I would be happy with the P6 as well. It sounds nice too. Extra voice on the E7 is also maybe a point to the E7? Every little bit helps in that department. More of an exponential curve on the envelopes is also a bit of a point for the E7 I guess. I've always found sequential envelopes kind of difficult to dial in. Linear envelopes might be just weird though I don't know. Unnatural a bit in both sound and behaviour. I'd give the E7 a nod in the sound department too but that's a subjective thing. No point in debating. Just go with what you like more personally. Great comparison thanks.
Great points! The oled is super great and i wish the p6 had one. The extra voice also totally matters too :)
Miles - this is GREAT! Thank you for this review/comparison. You might have covered it and I missed it, but what about the HPF of the P6? That was something I was kind of digging about that board when I tried it out recently. I found the P6 so easy to get around, but the E7 looks very straightforward as well.
Thank you! And you are absolutely right I missed covering the HP filter there, but that’s for sure a point to the P6, I wish every synth had a built in HP filter, and the P6’s is great sounding and modulatable. Super useful for getting the P6 to mix in nicely with others, which it’s so good at.
Good point. A HPF is definitely on my wishlist for the next GSMusic synth. Doesn‘t need an envelope, just one frequency knob/fader like on vintage Rolands. Of course you can dial out bass mud by the resonance on a ladder filter, but then the e7 tends to scream. Not easy to find the sweet spot.
Intro jam was awesome. Damn I want the synths
Thanks so much!
Wow sounds freaking awesome!!!
Thanks!
One question - when having the init preset aktivated- is the LFO running and pitching the OSC1?
@@DJ-UrbanEcho I think init has that Lfo 1 to pitch routed to mod wheel by default. Like sequential stuff
I believe if you assign mod wheel to P6 filter cutoff you can do smooth filter sweeps with high resonance without pitch quantizing.
Great tip! I don't like using the Mod wheel to filter as a workaround though cause then you lose the LFO for anything else !
Great comparison! The E7 sounds ultra vintage, fat and drifty in a lovely way. The P6 sounds cleaner, more modern and slightly thinner. I love my Toraiz AS-1 (one P6 voice but gain staged for a thicker sound) paired with a Minilogue XD for a compact desktop setup :)
My thoughts exactly Sarah! Thanks for watching! And that's a great set up, the XD is such a great synth, sounds just like my Prologue. Will eventually try to do a video and patches on it!
"Both" has been my solution to these issues.
A solution I fully support and take part in myself lol 😂
Ditto.
😂😂
Thanks for the video, amazing synth🤗🙏
My pleasure!
Wow, love that intro jam!
Thank you!
The E7 sounds fantastic - but wouldn‘t the Trigon-6 be a more adequate competitor? Anyway, I‘ll never let my P6 go.
True - on paper they are more similar! But I had been hearing on forums more buzz about comparing these two, since the P6 is a lot more well known than the Trigon I think. Also I don't own a Trigon, so there's that too LOL
@@MilesAwayOfficial “Also I don‘t own a Trigon …“
I somehow expected this lame excuse. 😜
@@RayyMusik HA - if I buy another synth it has to be the Prophet 10 or Super Gemini, so sadly , no Trigon review for a while :P
@@MilesAwayOfficial Doesn‘t matter for me any longer - ordered an *E7* today. :))
I suggest you buy a Super Gemini; there are more than enough P10 reviews.
Sequential synths have quantized filter cut-off, so that when you turn up the resonance into self oscillation, the filter is quantized to half notes. It makes it much easier to "tune" the filter if you want to play the self oscillation as an oscillator. The vintage Prophets does this too. But when the filter cut-off is modulated by an envelope or LFO, the cut-off point moves smoothly.
I get that - and I love Sequential but I am not a fan of the stepped filter. I find I rarely tune the filter to notes, whereas I love writing in live filter animation. Different use cases I guess!
Is there any way to disable the stepped/quantized filter on the Prophet 5 or 6? I’d rather just use my ears and instead gain the freedom of a smooth filter sweep
Sounds really nice
Fantastic demo as Always 👌 🎶 so hard to split these up 🤔 so I would say if you have a budget the E7 is the winner🏆🤩 🙌
Totally agree!
I mean... holy shite analog poly's are just so cool. E7 sounds so good. I'm so proud to own a P6. I'll go months without touching it then one day it will suck me in and take me away.
Thanks Miles.
Thank you! Analog synths are the best eh :)
Awsome synths! Have you tried the Polybrute? any thoughts?
I'd love to review one. Problem is I have limited space and nothing I'd like to sell to free up funds for one, and the synth is too old now to get a review unit. However, if I ever find one locally to rent I will absolutely review it and do a patch bank, it looks fantastic!
@@MilesAwayOfficial I understand, I have the same issue with space and gear I do not want to swap out, hehe. I love to watch your reviews, so I hope you find a polybrute one day :) Cheers!
Cool review. This would be a tough decision. But Sequential has a great reputation for service. I wonder how reliable the E7 is for the long run?
Fair point! I am a huge Sequential fan but I will 100% go on record saying the E7 is built much more robustly than my Prophet 6. I would put money on the E7 outlasting my Prophet. But Sequential give the best support ever so I dont worry about either
Thank you!
The only synth I could compare this sound to is the Memorymoog. For me it’s a modern Memorymoog in a box. I mean this as a huge compliment, and I hope this company thrives! I like the blue one but the black/red one may be better for work at night.🤔
Wow! That's great to hear, I've wanted a memorymoog for years but sadly not financially possible, so I am glad this synth reminds you of one!
Are the capabilities similar? What about the polymod functions of the Prophets? Does the GS Music E7 have this?
I went over that! You get 2 extra polyphonic LFOs on the E7 which can do 95% of what the polymod can do
extreme cool intro!
Thanks!
are you gain maching the synts? somethimes the diferences is outstandings! greetings from argentina. Hopefully ill get one G7 in the future!
Thanks! I gain match as closely as i can in logic after, then hit the master with a compressor/limiter, but its never gonna be totally exact, since even different patches in the same synth have different volumes
Use the Modwheel on the Prophet for filter sweeps
I truly believe the e7 is destined to be a future classic.
Same here!
I just realized, the e7 may be a better opponent for the matriarch than the muse because of its reduced voice count. Id like to know the difference.
I really can't decide between the E7 and the Prophet, they're both clearly amazing in their own right and there really isn't a clear winner for me. The thing that is making me lean towards the E7 is the price, the additional voice, and that it seems to be a bit more versatile (more LFO's), but the Prophet's filter sounds a bit better than the E7's to my ears but that could probably be compensated for in mixing. If you had to choose one as your main subtractive poly synth, which one would you choose?
it's a tough choice for sure! if you like the sound of the E7 I would personally go for it. It sounds more vintage and wild than the Prophet 6. But, if you make mostly modern music like dance or pop then the Prophet is just unbeatable, it fits into any mix in any genre. I will have custom patches for the E7 soon, if that helps your decision.
@@MilesAwayOfficial I see, I tend to make more experimental kinds of music and the wildness of the E7 that you also described I think suits me better. If you end up making any vids on some new patches you got for the E7 I'll be on the lookout for those, there really aren't enough videos on the unit.
I checked it's specs: just like the Prophet 6, it's slightly too big to fit into a 19" rack - this would've been a selling point for me, but they made the same mistake as Dave Smith there. Also MIDI implementation is THE BEST with everything Dave Smith touched. For example, you change a preset by sending a LSB 0-9 and then a program change 0-99. GS chose some obscure MSB, LSB and PC 0-127 combination, making it impossible to get a preset right without consulting the manual. That's a big minus.
Great feedback! You might want to reach out to Guido and see if the midi cc thing is something they could update. He recently coded a patch exporter/renamer based on feedback, so he is probably the most receptive to user feedback of any synth maker I know
I was REALLY interested in the e7, but it doesn't respond to PolyAT over MIDI, and the developer has no plans of implementing it. Oh well...
you're obsessing! j/k ;)
@@Station2Station-du2gh damn! Just how many aliases do you have!? 🤣And yes, it's my "thang!"
Only PolyAT (and not MPE which it does support) will work for you?
I wouldn’t write off a wonderful sounding synth just because it doesn’t have poly AT. There are some really great synths out there with poly AT, but for what you get with this synth already is pretty amazing.
@@nickhaldin8674 My question was intended to be if MPE which it has is not an option and only PolyAT (which is technically different) is acceptable.
I love my e7. I think sometimes it’s a bit intense in the mids, can muddle up the mix without some EQing. The Prophet just drops in any track with like no effort, though. I think that’s partly why it’s such a classic. Both synths friggin rip, though!
100% share the same opinion! Prophet is just so easy to mix into things. But the E7 has that sound :)
Any thoughts on the best distortion pedals to complement the E7? Have you tried the Electron Analogue Heat processors? They are a bit pricey, though.
They look amazing! I’d love to get one eventually. Also very interested in trying the OTO Boum, looks sick as well. I don’t currently own any stereo distortions and use in the box plugins.
@@MilesAwayOfficial Thanks! I'll check out the OTO Boum. It is at a much better price point.
The P6 desktop is $700 more which is almost half again the E7, but in the long run for most is that enough to pick one over the other? The extra LFOs, extra voice, and above all multi-timbrality I think would win it for me were I looking right now. Things lie two 3 voice layered patches mapped to one side of a keybed with 1 voice mapped to the other is a BIG capability IMHO. Both have MPE which is also nice. However, Sequential does have the "vintage" (various per voice offsets) knob which is all kinds of special.
@@ghost_mall I did not mean to imply I would pick the P6 desktop if looking for this general type of synth around $2k. E7 all day every day and twice on Sunday. The additional LFOs, multi-timbrality, and stereo capabilities open up a LOT of places none of the monotimbral Sequential synths can even dream of going for a lousy $100 more than a Take 5. The only small thing they MIGHT be able to add is optional slight per voice offset capabilities.
Yea even price aside I think it's a tough choice, the E7 just does so much and sounds so good! But the P6 is classic and I really like mine. Thanks for watching!
@@ghost_mall it's all good amigo 👍
Any FM capabilities?
no, but the LFOs go audio rate!
Hey Miles are you still using your 3rd wave more over the ObX8? Really interested in these two synths.
About 50/50! I still use my OB-6 the most cause its just so fast and I know it well, but for anything ambient I go to the 3rd Wave, and the OBX8 is for bread and butter.
Had my eye on the E7 too, and i have the P6...... So this helps... I think.
Glad to hear! What are you leaning towards?
@@MilesAwayOfficial not sure.... My OB6 desktop IS going, and Ill grab the OB8x desktop with a dedicated Eventide H90. I currently then have polybrute, and P6 desktop for analogues. Its a tough call TBH.... I have the 3rd wave of course. PB/Trigon keyboard are the 2 options there, keep P6, or swap for the E7 or possibly Nina..... What Im trying to get is top quality, as well as variation while not loosing the classic sounds....in a space that holds 2 keyboards and 2 desktops. The 3rd wave and OBx8 desktop are firm as 1 of each - so iits what fills the other keybaord and desktop slots.
@@paulmapp8306 we are really similar - my OBX8 and 3rd Wave are my two "never selling/always on", since they just compliment eachother so well, and I'm in no rush but eventually I'd like to sell my Prophet 6 for a Prophet 5/10, but I could totally see an E7 replacing that as well. Your choice is tough. but I think no matter what you will end up happy with a great array of keys~!
@@MilesAwayOfficial I ruled a Prophet 10 out last week lol. A/Bd for a while OIB6 v OBx8 and P6 v P10. I didnt like the overly mid range of the P10. Teh filter resonance and voice interaction was nicer - but the overall tone and actually liveliness of the P6 over the P5 left me preferring the 6. Hence thinking Nina or e7 for the desktop. I really liked the tone of my Pro3 but just couldnt gell with a mono. Im a player first and foremost and single notes killed me - even though Im an 80s fan and most of those are intertwined single note melodies single - but I just cant work that way. the Trigon seems much closer to the Pro3s tone than the others (not exactly the same but very similar). Hence thinking Trigon instead of Polybrute (or wait until that is in desktop form and replace P6 but keep PB). always a tough choice.
I think this was a missed opportunity. Effects are meh, but rather, what I miss the most is modulation matrix. It does sound nice when dialing bread and butter analog patches tho. Missing q compensation.
Fair, I mention in my first review I really miss cross mod for analog FM, but pretty much everything else I'd want a matrix for is moddable using the front panel knobs
Sounds more akin to Oberheim than Sequential. In any case, it sounds great. They really need a distributor.
Yeah it sounds so great! GS Music E7 have Europe distribution at Enlo-1 shop . Also it have distribution in UK and USA by other dealers.
it's in Perfect Circuit now! Check out the link in my description :)
@@MilesAwayOfficial Oh now that is fantastic!
I don‘t hear a great similarity to Oberheims - but to the Memorymoog.
@@wutierson Got mine from Enlo-1 in Barcelona. Arrived in Germany 2 days after the order. Perfect. 👍
E7 sounded so great all the way through, then the prophet took it when used in a musical context - classic for a reason I suppose!
Well said! There's a reason why I use the Prophet all the time in my songs, maybe not the most exciting, but nothing mixes in as easily in songs!
@@MilesAwayOfficial You prefer the P6 or OB6 overall (if it was one or the other!)
The Prophet-6 is not a classic. Did you mean the Prophet-5?
@@mmckmusic Ob-6 I have to pick, it will always be my favourite analog synth
e7 very fat sound , but i steel preferer so beautifully phazy , brassy and crispy sound of prophet 6 sound . Miles did you tried a Take 5 ?
I have not tried the Take 5 besides just in a music store! Would love to rent one.
que lindo sonido
Gracias!
Спасибо за хороший обзор!
I'd love to hear the E7 against the UDO Super 6.
I'd love to review the Super 6! One day perhaps, I am also very interested in the Super Gemini
I might have bought the e7 if I had found it before the Take 5. Ah well..
Take 5 is still great! But the E7 really does have an interesting sound and magic about it
@@MilesAwayOfficial Yeah, can’t complain😏
Would love to see you check out the Uno Synth Pro X
Please volume match, the human ear automatically prefers louder. Not saying the E7 is bad...just not equal comparison for characteristics
hey- mentioned this to another commenter: I tried to gain match them as close as possible in Logic, and then there is a mastering chain on the entire logic project (both synths and my voice) that is compressing down / limiting both synths. So there might be a small discrepancy of human error but the levels are a lot closer than you think
@@MilesAwayOfficial I’ll take your word for it, sounded distinctly different volumes to me. Adjust the levels from the synths directly and use monitoring plugins would be how I would approach it. No mastering chain, raw sound db matched. Anything over a db is perceivable. Mastering chain on your mic channel if needed. You probably did this though so avoid my ramblings.
you really should play a Prophet 5/10
its my dream to get one eventually! just so expensive!
@@MilesAwayOfficialbuddy you have ALL the other expensive synths! great channel, im subscribed now. cheers.
13:39 Why can’t this be love?
This should be.49 or 61 keybed version.
Agreed! heard they might be working on one!
7 voices? How strange. Why not 8? Anyway, this E7 sounds really really nice! Almost, dare I say it, Oberheimy in a sort of way? The filter is obviously a Moog one though. Thanks for sharing this interesting comparison. BTW, where did you get the GS Music E7 from?
7 is my lucky number! So I don't mind haha, think like a bonus voice over 6 :)
That G7 seems like a cool synth, but I suppose that between the Rev 2, P6 and Pro 800 I've got it mostly covered :) Still nice to see that there's such a wealth of synths to choose from these days.
For real! It's a true golden age of synths :)
Wow, unexpected but desirable comparison.
Hope it was enjoyable! Which one caught your ears? :D
@@MilesAwayOfficial prophet6 is more rich sounding, as i can say that. But nevertheless GS i pretty great synth. Its multimode is a bargain.
The only difference I could hear is the volume on the Prophet is clearly lower 😂
They are actually quite closely gain matched, at least at the start - then everything is getting hit into a brick wall limiter anyways.
Def think the E7 is fatter, more inspiring sounding standalone. Prophet tho sounds it has the room for other instruments to be involved.
My exact conclusion! Thanks for watching, new synth videos weekly!
Ok you have made the classic mistake of not matching the levels correctly. (On purpose perhaps!) The Prophet 6 is 2 to 3 db lower all the time compared to the GS so you need to fix this. In your video the GS is louder so people will think its better. Also I have a fiend who plays a lot live in London and he is a Prophet 6 user. He says he has tried everything and the Prophet 6 is more powerful live than anything else. That says it all.
Hey, I tried to gain match them as close as possible in Logic, and then there is a mastering chain on the entire logic project (both synths and my voice) that is compressing down / limiting both synths. So there might be a small discrepancy of human error but the levels are a lot closer than you think
Its best to record the synths direct from their outputs straight to the video recording software input when making comparisons. Nothing in between.
And using a VU meter so that both deflect the needle an identical amount. Mastering chains are changing the sound of both synths way too much. I often find when I get the actual synths here in the flesh and patch them right to my mixbus they sound 10 times better than they do on RUclips.
i get what you are saying, but in order to not have the video's audio mix of my voice, synth 1 and synth 2 be super quiet due to variable dynamics, the audio mix needs to have some light compression and mastering. Sadly most people click away on youtube videos if they are not commercially loud. I try to make sure I am altering the sound as little as possible, but Synths will always sound best in person@@jeffevansmusic
The GS e7 sounds warmer and thicker
Totally agree there!
Sequential imposing their idea is better (resonant filter sweep on P6) is a big reason I now look elsewhere. I just tried a Vermona Perfourmer controlled by a Rev-2 and pitch bend behaved in a stepped way too. This doesn’t happen when controlling with the Virus. I am sick of Sequential giving reasons.
I love Sequential but I agree, not a fan of the stepped filter.
Sounds great, but 1600 for a 7 voice?? Lol…. Behringer is selling the pro-800 for 399 and it has 8voices??
I mean you can't compare a giant corporation that manufactures mass production with low wages in China vs a boutique small company that makes everything by hand in house...
Ok were here, thats seems like cheap entertainment and fuss.
I am very excited how the g7 ever can be something like prophet.
G7 is very different and it has nothing to do with the prophet at all.
Very excited what this means.
They actually can sound pretty similar! What do you think?
LOL this guy is a joke. All synths are " THE BEST"
I've responded to this kind of comment before: it takes so much time to make these videos, and I don't make much $ off them, so why would I waste my time making videos shitting on synths I don't like?
Yesterday I was looking for buying the E7 that was on sale for $1489 on perfect circuit, but they got sold, and I ended getting the Oberheim Teo 5 ❤, since my matrix 6 is broken 👎🏼
Sorry about the broken Matrix! Hope you can get that fixed! How do you like the TEO 5? I ordered one from Sequential but its delayed til August. Going to do a video and custom patches so stay tuned!
@@MilesAwayOfficial hey man, mine is delayed too til August 😊
Sequential has a bigger stereo spread
i dont like it at all , prophet 6 is better in all senses
Fair! Prophet is one of the greatest synths ever.
Well I have a Dave smith MoPhO, and most of the presets of the E7 sounds like a poly MoPhO 😊👍🏻