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This is exactly how I'm setting up my whole workflow. 100% improvised. For me it's because I just can't get my brain to come back to the same thought after a session. I can't stand the idea of building up a "playlist" for a set. That sounds like torture to me. Major executive dysfunction stuff. But I love just learning the tricks of the tools to just tweak stuff on the fly. It's so much more satisfying to me. Love this vid!
This is the best video on youtube for live performances. This got me soo inspired. This acctually made me sell my oxi one and a couple of synths to get a rytm, faderfox pc12 and a torso, going to pair it with a tb3 and a tr8s. And somehow include koala sampler since the rytm is class compliant... Not sure it will work but fingers crossed.
@LiamKillen Yeah... Keep doing these setup vids with guests. So informative and fascinating. There are tons and tons of channels just doing reviews on single gear. I mean dawless is basicly building a live instrument as a whole. The whole chain is what makes the instrument and workflow. Keep up the good work and thank you for this. This setup is awesome with handson controll of all parameters you want. Love how this opens up the rytm ...i mean it completely unlocks it and it becomes a true live instrument.
This was, by far, the most helpful video coming across my feed in a long, long time now.... My evolving process of completely-improvised electro music has been progressing at the proverbial snail's pace, and this video and you guys have truly just pushed things very much forward for me! Can't thank you both enough, and big cheers and happy New Year to all y'all 🙏🙏🙏🌌
Same here. Heard similar stuff from stoors knob twiddlers hangout but everybody does things differently and that's a good thing. I'm also trying to figure out a way to do live improvised techno and videos like this one are gold. Way to go Liam.
Very cool, indeed! From the philosophy, it reminded me of Surgeon's approach to improvised live techno. If you enjoyed Pat's stuff, check out the videos out there on Surgeon. Interestingly, Surgeon also started using the T-1.
Best setup I’ve seen on yet channel. It’s just super proficient, hands on, simple, and badass and you can use any sequencer you want if you don’t want to use the torso. You can even add another external synth like a Norand Mono Mk2. Hard to beat.
A lot to digest here. Quality content my man. Thank you for inviting your homie. I thought you had finally bought a Rytm..Improv is another dimension, excited to experiement with that with Oxi for Techno, ' just enough control'.. lots of learning here. Graci!
Great video - Thanks Liam - really love seeing how other artists do their thing! - in detail!. More Please! - I not only learned a lot, but it inspired me to make some tracks!
This video was great. I love to hear about finding spots in the room and how you can manipulate the energy of the crowd with sound and also ways to make DJ/Techo performance more hands-on. The way he controls each aspect of the sounds calls for Roland or someone like that to make a better device! I'll try to do a lot of what he said with the mappable encoders on the MC-707 and see how far I get.
@@LiamKillen You are good at asking these working DJ/Techno questions. It would be cool to hear to talk to a series of performers who do this type of setup.
Thqnk you! Loved to see such a competent video diving into detail on this subject and I like the elektron/non elektron approach! I have a similar setup and focus on improvisation, but using an MPC live together with some semi modulars instead. With some practice you can make some surprisingly decent improvised live sets. Especially after realising the q-link knobs can be mapped to do basixally anything! For those of you who are interested in doing improvised techno: make it enjoyable for yourself, make it easy. Less is more. Don't fall into the trap of thinking more stnths equals more potential. It is true, but it also means more distractions and less focus. Your feelings behind the knobs will be translated to the crowd whatever they may be.
I am so happy to found this video, my approach is very similar, everything in one pattern and evolved on the fly feels more intuitive than struggle with multiples patterns pre programmed
Wow, fascinating video! Really interesting to see how dynamic and on the fly that is. This setup feels more like playing an instrument rather than a series of loops and patterns that were made beforehand. Great stuff!
Great stuff! I have a somewhat similar setup but same mindset. I'm using the Torso to sequence three voices in a modular synth, and drums from Ableton. I'm using the Faderfox PC4 to control effects and params in the whole setup but after seeing this I kind of want even more knobs haha. Protip: I opted to set my kick on channel 16 in the Torso, so that I can easily mute it with one hand, while using the other to turn knobs.
Would have been great to speak about the midi implementation in the AR to get the knob do what is needed, great great video thank you so much to both of you ❤️
Love love looove this interview and this gear breakdown! I’m a guitarist and it’s so easy to jam on a few chords or melodies, and if I hear a new note, I just grab it on the neck. Been expanding my synth setup recently and learning how to devise a jam in the same way has been tricky, so this is mega insightful. (Glad that I don’t have to pay for any new notes on the neck if I hear a new sound, unlike my synth setup of course 🤪)
as someone one who is slowly moving into DAWless techno, this was a great watch! awesome seeing the Torso T-1 in action as well, been looking at it, but ended up getting a Korg SQ64 instead as it was better for my wallet. I have one Elektron device(cycles), and everytime I see something else from them, I want it. Its workflow seems to reward creativity and experimentation.
Thanks for sharing this discussion. I got a lot of great info from this. "Its more about more feelibg than more sound." Perfect advice. Great to see Faderfox pc12 in live jamming. I love mine and highly recommend it. I use it with bitwig and voltage modular 2, and tend towards more ambient and berlin svhool, but many principles of the set-up are identical. Since i do.not use hardware synths, I use the faderfox for the synths, arps and drum sounds, and an akai midiMix for the drum pattern control.
Perhaps a stupid question -- how do you have both the Torso T-1 AND Faderfox going Analog Rytm? I'm trying to accomplish this with Digitakt, but Digitakt only has one midi input. So how best to solve that problem?
Improvised performance is a funny thing. I think ppl think it means to create new ideas on the spot. It’s not really true… at least in live traditional music (blue, jazz, rock). It’s more about substituting in things you know work at the right time. This actually blew my mind years ago when I read it in an interview and learned it to be true… and it really helped me sound better when I hit the stage as I was much more confident in what I was performing. Of course you can do what you want… but thought I’d mention it in case it helps someone.
Brian Eno makes this point about being in the studio with musicians who need to play all their ‘hot licks’ first to reassure themselves they can ‘play’ before sitting down to work out interesting/original ideas.
Really inspiring. I’d been playing based on a cirklon but this video inspired me to explore the T1 and now it’s the centre of my setup. Keep returning to this for inspiration on improvisation, some really deep knowledge here, thanks both!
Nice setup. Would have been nice to hear about the mastering chain. You could actually take just an mc707 and the torso and do almost the same. Ableton Clip thing, eq and multiband compression and limiter on the master out and drum and synth voices with integrated mappable knobs. And faders.
@stereo_img4595 true the mc is still a bit too wonky regarding midi. I use it but with the internal sequencer. Also the good thing about the rytm is the power of the kick+ distortion. It funny that you are using the rytm + controller almost like a tanzbär
That was an awesome watch! Please do more “How I Play” vids of hardware set performers like this. Any chance I could get some more insight on what’s in his mastering chain on the MOD software and/or how it’s dialed in to get a good club master?
Awesome, thanks for the reply! either a text answer or a video on how to get a good mastering chain for a hardware set up would be great! I’ve seen the doctron IMC be used (very expensive) and these mod devices are a great alternative for some EQ/Saturation/limiting with stereo ins/outs when not using a DAW/computer. Would have loved to hear a few thoughts on setting that up so like he said your sound can stand up beside DJs who you may be playing alongside at such an event.
I like that. I used to play with a Doepfer Drehbank and the Pc12 with about 30 Tracks in Ableton. There is no too much. This was very much fun. And this seems like the same amount of fun to me. Makes me think about starting again... 🙄
Very good. I did the DAW grind for the last year and made 72 songs. I'm ready to ditch MS Windows and use real hardware/instruments. Thank you so much! New Sub here. ❤🔥
Such a great demonstration! Very inspiring. Just bought the MK1, it includes the euclidean sequencer stuff with the 1.7 upgrade:) Considering the faderfox now... Anyone knows what's being mapped next to volume knob for the synths? For the bassline it's the modulation between the 2 vco's, but what's it for the other synth layers?
You'd have to reach out to Pat for a clear answer no that one ! His insta is linked in the description of the video. Also, if you're interested in joining an online forum / community all about synths, my Discord is the place for you :-) Here's an invite: discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
Really cool setup! I really like the single cycle waveform's on the tom row. Usually I lose 2 dual OSC voices to bass and lead synth sounds and barely use the tom row or play top loops. Will have to make some samples.
Great vid! 🤘 I’ve similarly ended up using my TR-8S in the least Roland way possible, these days I sequence it entirely from my Deluge. That also feels blasphemous - but, whatever works!
Hey hey great stuff and great explanation! I like the impro and i am building up my setup including also voice and guitar with rc202. Thanks for sharing all this tips!
I would do that - and this is going to sound pretty lame and content creator-ey to say - but if I include a long performance, most people just won't watch it and it will affect who actually sees this video. I would recommend checking out Pat's music, linked in the description! :-)
Second time watching this… a third is on the horizon… amazing producers… amazing music … clear, simple expert opinion couple with toe-tapping goodness 🙏
Hey Great Vid I’m waiting on a FF MX 12 for my Rytm MK 2. Just wondering what stand was used. Looking for something just like that! Please and thanks for your time!!
Great tutorial, im going to copy your setup i think :).. Do you adjust the tempo of your set? Also, with the black box loop samples, do they need to be the same tempo as your beat or do they auto stretch to match the tempo. Thanks!
I would reach out to Pat directly for this one - maybe hit him on Insta ! He also just joined my Discord, but I admit - he's not super active on it haha. Here's a link: distrokid.com/vip/liamkillen
I have the toriaz sp 16 has a lot of the features of the rmx 1000 included which is really nice for transitioning , little menu diving great sequencer but catered more to making loop based songs . Kinda like a sp 404 on adrenaline.. I think it's best to focus on mastering your existing gear, the root reason for constantly trading gear for other gear is probably the individual’s probablm
@stereo_img4595 👍 Agree another things is Discipline, I mean think about it, if the perfect piece of gear that does everything every surfaced will really it be the solution to our problem ?? I highly doubt it..
Is the dual oscillator for his bass sound actually a sample that is looped - like on his synth sounds ? I know on the elektrons that a lot of the sounds come from people looping a single waveform … basically I’m wondering if you can do this exact set up that he has using the PC12 to utilise filter functions, but on the Octatrack instead of the Rytm…
Alright, I’m scratching my head regarding the controls for the open and closed hihats… 😅 to be able to control the common parameters (decay, tuning etc.) for both at the same time, I imagine that the voices are set to the same midi channel ? But then how do you separate the volume controls of both between 2 knobs ? Am I missing something obvious maybe ? Awesome video and setup !
I would reach out to pat for this one ! @stereoimg on Insta :-) Also if you have any gear / tech questions my Discord is always a great resource for info ! discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
Here’s the answer for anyone wondering, from Pat: “Hey man! Really good question because that is the trickiest part of my setup. I had to map the controls that I wanted to share a knob to a performance macro and the midi controller is mapped to the macro. This is a fairly specific work around for the Rytm in particular. If you don’t have a Rytm then you could look into midi controllers that send more than one midi message like the yaeltek stuff. But yeah the CHH and OHH have to be on different midi channels if you want to send them separate sequences and have separate volume control.”
thnks for this video !! really really interesting ! 1 instrument master, a lot of controls and only 1 pattern for 1 live !! UFO set up but really interesting to get close of total improvisation instead of all the other artists that are 100% prepared live set. Its great to invit artists like him !
thanks for these type of videos with the guest explaining their workflow. one suggestion i have is to put their name in the title or at least in the description. and maybe links to some of their websites. thanks again though!
I’ve left links to their website / music in the description + pointed to their social media handle at the beginning of the video 😊 As for including their artist names in the title, I really want these videos to be more about the gear than anything else- because that’s what most of audience would rather focus on! Thank you for watching!
@@LiamKillen wow i apologise, i dont know how i missed the link in the description. maybe i was looking for "stereo image" not "stereo img". anyways my bad!
He's in good company using the Torso T-1 to drive a set like this. Anthony Childs (AKA Surgeon) too. Declarative Techno is a great way to go for generating material, leaves the performer to concentrate on sound sculpting, arrangement, mixing, effects and transitions. It's a bit more like being a conductor than having to take care of every little detail. Neat idea using the Mod Dwarf for mastering chain. There aren't too many standalone devices to do that, if you don't want to either bring a laptop, or spend really quite a lot on the DOCtron Stimming Instant Mastering Chain. Idk, maybe the newer Analog Heat mk.II can also be useful for that, compared to the Analog Heat mk.I?
I have toraiz squid in my setup for the faderfox+torso t1 functionality. Not so versatile but it just do the job. And my sound modules are physical boxes with lots of knobs already. If someone in comments section ever mind about more affordable alternative, this approach might be usefull
Nice setup and thank you for the video! Is there any way to get more information about the ModDwarf mastering chain? I would be very happy to get more insight into the programmed signal chain.
@@LiamKillen Even so, this already helped - I was searching for a vacuum, haha. Just ordered a similar model! Oh, and I also blame you for ordering a Model 1.4 sooo... thanks for that 😂
I have another question that you probably can help with. With this setup, how does one remember their set? Is there a risk of creating something you forget hwo to reproduce?
With Pat's set up, it's all happening on the fly so it's like a very spontaneous, in the moment thing - the part is composed, Pat sits on it for a bit - and then it's gone, onto the next part.
You'd have to ask Pat for a specific answer on that ! You sound like someone who would be at home in my Discord - here's an invite :-) discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
I’m really thinking (hard) about the 1010 music Black Box, to pair with my TR8s. I was gonna invest in the T.E. KO ll but I can’t tell you how much the manufacture issues have put me off!
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Super cool to see a performing artist who could play a warehouse rave and showing how he can do an entire set. Excellent episode!
Exactly! There’s not too many of these out there so it was cool to have Pat involved
And that's the way it should be 👽👌 definitely my preferred approach
Agree.
This is exactly how I'm setting up my whole workflow. 100% improvised. For me it's because I just can't get my brain to come back to the same thought after a session. I can't stand the idea of building up a "playlist" for a set. That sounds like torture to me. Major executive dysfunction stuff. But I love just learning the tricks of the tools to just tweak stuff on the fly. It's so much more satisfying to me. Love this vid!
Glad that you’re into this! Thx for watching!
💯 gotta keep it fun 😃
I LOVE these types of gear & technique breakdowns!
Appreciate you watching!
Thank you 15:57 this is totally my approach and I’m very happy to have seen this conversation and demo. 🙏🏻
This is the best video on youtube for live performances.
This got me soo inspired.
This acctually made me sell my oxi one and a couple of synths to get a rytm, faderfox pc12 and a torso, going to pair it with a tb3 and a tr8s. And somehow include koala sampler since the rytm is class compliant... Not sure it will work but fingers crossed.
Haha so happy to hear it inspired you! Pat’s the man!
@LiamKillen Yeah... Keep doing these setup vids with guests. So informative and fascinating. There are tons and tons of channels just doing reviews on single gear.
I mean dawless is basicly building a live instrument as a whole. The whole chain is what makes the instrument and workflow. Keep up the good work and thank you for this. This setup is awesome with handson controll of all parameters you want. Love how this opens up the rytm ...i mean it completely unlocks it and it becomes a true live instrument.
This was, by far, the most helpful video coming across my feed in a long, long time now.... My evolving process of completely-improvised electro music has been progressing at the proverbial snail's pace, and this video and you guys have truly just pushed things very much forward for me! Can't thank you both enough, and big cheers and happy New Year to all y'all 🙏🙏🙏🌌
I’m so glad to hear it! Thanks for watching
Same here. Heard similar stuff from stoors knob twiddlers hangout but everybody does things differently and that's a good thing. I'm also trying to figure out a way to do live improvised techno and videos like this one are gold. Way to go Liam.
This kind of feedback is exactly why we do this sort of thing. Thanks guys, hope to hear your sets soon!
Very cool, indeed! From the philosophy, it reminded me of Surgeon's approach to improvised live techno. If you enjoyed Pat's stuff, check out the videos out there on Surgeon. Interestingly, Surgeon also started using the T-1.
That sequencer looks like a lot of fun.
It really does
Best setup I’ve seen on yet channel. It’s just super proficient, hands on, simple, and badass and you can use any sequencer you want if you don’t want to use the torso. You can even add another external synth like a Norand Mono Mk2. Hard to beat.
Yeah this set up is unstoppable.
Damn, rocking a crowd with only a TR-8s is some true skill and talent
That is a skillll for sure.
Sometimes all the gear options just get in the way
Very good video. Lots of great insights. I’d love to see more of these kinds of approaches in your videos. You ask good questions!
Thanks for watching! 😊
A lot to digest here. Quality content my man. Thank you for inviting your homie. I thought you had finally bought a Rytm..Improv is another dimension, excited to experiement with that with Oxi for Techno, ' just enough control'.. lots of learning here. Graci!
I’m still stuck on the TR-8S for now 😏
That's a great machine!@@LiamKillen
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@@stereo_img4595 are you using the single cycle wave forms from the Rytm or third-party?
Torso is great. Back in the 90s, some people used two MC303 and a dj mixer to go from track to track
Thinking of picking one up myself 😏
Great video - Thanks Liam - really love seeing how other artists do their thing! - in detail!. More Please! - I not only learned a lot, but it inspired me to make some tracks!
Noted! Thx for watching!
Stoked to hear that 😃
super video ☺♥sounds amazing ♦☺☺♪
Super BRO
Thx for watching!
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This video was great. I love to hear about finding spots in the room and how you can manipulate the energy of the crowd with sound and also ways to make DJ/Techo performance more hands-on. The way he controls each aspect of the sounds calls for Roland or someone like that to make a better device! I'll try to do a lot of what he said with the mappable encoders on the MC-707 and see how far I get.
Yeah that’s a major pro tip!!
@@LiamKillen You are good at asking these working DJ/Techno questions. It would be cool to hear to talk to a series of performers who do this type of setup.
I’m building out a DAWless setup for live techno and this is exactly the video I needed. Thanks ❤
Glad it helped you out ! :-)
Thqnk you! Loved to see such a competent video diving into detail on this subject and I like the elektron/non elektron approach! I have a similar setup and focus on improvisation, but using an MPC live together with some semi modulars instead. With some practice you can make some surprisingly decent improvised live sets. Especially after realising the q-link knobs can be mapped to do basixally anything!
For those of you who are interested in doing improvised techno: make it enjoyable for yourself, make it easy. Less is more.
Don't fall into the trap of thinking more stnths equals more potential. It is true, but it also means more distractions and less focus.
Your feelings behind the knobs will be translated to the crowd whatever they may be.
Thanks for dropping your set up and really appreciate you watching :-)
Excellent use of the Mod Dwarf that I totally never thought about! Thank you for sharing!
Always a pleasure :-)
No external mixer needed ? One of the coolest videos, I’ve watched 🖤 🖤 🖤
Yeah it's all contained in this set up! Insane, right?
@@LiamKillen This is interesting, I’ll try this setup for my next live and see. Thanks for answering so quickly. Peace
I am so happy to found this video, my approach is very similar, everything in one pattern and evolved on the fly feels more intuitive than struggle with multiples patterns pre programmed
I was blown away by Pat's approach. Thank you for watching ! :-)
Great to see a truly improvised way of doing techno live sets. Would love to know more on sound design during live performance.
Noted!
Thanks for this video ! I like the interview style, this setup looks like fun ! Faderfox stuff is awesome.
I've got another one of these in the process of being created :-)
very interesting, love the torso, more videos about different approaches to improvising please! thank you
Already got a bunch of other artists lined up! We’ll see how it goooeesss!!
This is great. Gives insight into on the spot Dawless performing to a degree I've never seen before.
Glad to hear it 😊
Awesome! Thx for watching 😊
My guy
Wow, fascinating video! Really interesting to see how dynamic and on the fly that is. This setup feels more like playing an instrument rather than a series of loops and patterns that were made beforehand. Great stuff!
Exactly!! That's exactly what it is - building an instrument.
Great stuff! I have a somewhat similar setup but same mindset. I'm using the Torso to sequence three voices in a modular synth, and drums from Ableton. I'm using the Faderfox PC4 to control effects and params in the whole setup but after seeing this I kind of want even more knobs haha. Protip: I opted to set my kick on channel 16 in the Torso, so that I can easily mute it with one hand, while using the other to turn knobs.
Thanks for watching and for the additional pro tip! :-)
That’s a brilliant tip thanks. Been struggling with this today and it never occurred to me to switch things up so could do one handed!
Such great episode - thanks a million to you both.
Thank you for watching!
🙏😊
I’m loving this setups videos with guests. 🎉
I love them tooooo!!
@liamkillen I’d be very interested in what you would do in a similar workflow with your Oxi One, PC12, Digitakt, Digitone and RMX1000!
Sounds gnarly AF! That’s a complex workflow- something to consider
Sounds like a really solid setup
Would have been great to speak about the midi implementation in the AR to get the knob do what is needed, great great video thank you so much to both of you ❤️
Always a pleasure :-)
This is the best video that I've ever seen, it's the exact workflow I've been looking for ❤
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Love love looove this interview and this gear breakdown! I’m a guitarist and it’s so easy to jam on a few chords or melodies, and if I hear a new note, I just grab it on the neck. Been expanding my synth setup recently and learning how to devise a jam in the same way has been tricky, so this is mega insightful. (Glad that I don’t have to pay for any new notes on the neck if I hear a new sound, unlike my synth setup of course 🤪)
as someone one who is slowly moving into DAWless techno, this was a great watch!
awesome seeing the Torso T-1 in action as well, been looking at it, but ended up getting a Korg SQ64 instead as it was better for my wallet.
I have one Elektron device(cycles), and everytime I see something else from them, I want it. Its workflow seems to reward creativity and experimentation.
I want the t-1 now 😏
Nice to see other improviser's setups!
Absolutely!
Fantastic!! So awesome to see someone's personal process! Need more of this :)
Lots more lined up!
What a sweet setup!! Such bad ass tunes too. Ok you got a new sub for sure.
Allen and Heath are sweet becuase the interface is built into the mixer which they pretty much innovated, I love Allen & Heath
Thank you!
Yeah they’re on top of the game
very well said! that you are looking for feeling not for clutter
Exactly !
I think you'd get along with the Discord community :-) Here's an invite!
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Thanks for sharing this discussion. I got a lot of great info from this. "Its more about more feelibg than more sound." Perfect advice.
Great to see Faderfox pc12 in live jamming. I love mine and highly recommend it. I use it with bitwig and voltage modular 2, and tend towards more ambient and berlin svhool, but many principles of the set-up are identical. Since i do.not use hardware synths, I use the faderfox for the synths, arps and drum sounds, and an akai midiMix for the drum pattern control.
Thanks so much for watching and glad that it helped you out :-)
very cool, please make more like this, of people showing their setups
Thanks for watching!
Really enjoyed this! Interesting and inspiring to see how someone approaches their live set.
Thank you for watching ! :-)
Perhaps a stupid question -- how do you have both the Torso T-1 AND Faderfox going Analog Rytm? I'm trying to accomplish this with Digitakt, but Digitakt only has one midi input. So how best to solve that problem?
I’m not sure 100% but the pc 12 has two midi ins + 2 midi outs so it might have something to do with that
A midi merge box is what you need if you want multiple machines going into a single midi input.
Improvised performance is a funny thing. I think ppl think it means to create new ideas on the spot. It’s not really true… at least in live traditional music (blue, jazz, rock). It’s more about substituting in things you know work at the right time. This actually blew my mind years ago when I read it in an interview and learned it to be true… and it really helped me sound better when I hit the stage as I was much more confident in what I was performing. Of course you can do what you want… but thought I’d mention it in case it helps someone.
Thanks for your take on this and thx for watching :-)
Brian Eno makes this point about being in the studio with musicians who need to play all their ‘hot licks’ first to reassure themselves they can ‘play’ before sitting down to work out interesting/original ideas.
Really inspiring. I’d been playing based on a cirklon but this video inspired me to explore the T1 and now it’s the centre of my setup. Keep returning to this for inspiration on improvisation, some really deep knowledge here, thanks both!
Thank you for watching ! :-)
You might be interested in joining my Discord BTW - it's community vibes :-)
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Nice setup. Would have been nice to hear about the mastering chain. You could actually take just an mc707 and the torso and do almost the same. Ableton Clip thing, eq and multiband compression and limiter on the master out and drum and synth voices with integrated mappable knobs. And faders.
Oh cool thanks for this addition! And thx for watching
True, definitely considered it. I just wish that midi implementation chart was deeper. I feel the same way about the tr8-s.
@stereo_img4595 true the mc is still a bit too wonky regarding midi. I use it but with the internal sequencer. Also the good thing about the rytm is the power of the kick+ distortion. It funny that you are using the rytm + controller almost like a tanzbär
So cool! I want to see his live set so bad
He’s great live!
That was an awesome watch! Please do more “How I Play” vids of hardware set performers like this.
Any chance I could get some more insight on what’s in his mastering chain on the MOD software and/or how it’s dialed in to get a good club master?
Yes! I'm in the process of editing another one right now actually and it's completely different from this one haha.
Awesome, thanks for the reply! either a text answer or a video on how to get a good mastering chain for a hardware set up would be great! I’ve seen the doctron IMC be used (very expensive) and these mod devices are a great alternative for some EQ/Saturation/limiting with stereo ins/outs when not using a DAW/computer. Would have loved to hear a few thoughts on setting that up so like he said your sound can stand up beside DJs who you may be playing alongside at such an event.
I loved this, very informative to see how others build their live sets.
Absolutely! Thx for watching 😊
I like that. I used to play with a Doepfer Drehbank and the Pc12 with about 30 Tracks in Ableton. There is no too much. This was very much fun. And this seems like the same amount of fun to me. Makes me think about starting again... 🙄
Yes! Start again!
Pc12 for the win 🙌
Very good. I did the DAW grind for the last year and made 72 songs. I'm ready to ditch MS Windows and use real hardware/instruments. Thank you so much! New Sub here. ❤🔥
I think a combo of software and hardware is the way to go.
Great stuff, I like the whole format of this video
Thanks for checking it out!
Super insightful. Thanks both!
Pleasure!
Such a great demonstration! Very inspiring. Just bought the MK1, it includes the euclidean sequencer stuff with the 1.7 upgrade:) Considering the faderfox now...
Anyone knows what's being mapped next to volume knob for the synths? For the bassline it's the modulation between the 2 vco's, but what's it for the other synth layers?
You'd have to reach out to Pat for a clear answer no that one ! His insta is linked in the description of the video. Also, if you're interested in joining an online forum / community all about synths, my Discord is the place for you :-)
Here's an invite: discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
Really cool setup! I really like the single cycle waveform's on the tom row. Usually I lose 2 dual OSC voices to bass and lead synth sounds and barely use the tom row or play top loops. Will have to make some samples.
Yeah Pat kills it! Thx for watching!
Glad you caught that detail. It's really useful.
Super insightful! Thank you for breaking things down. 🤘
Thanks for watching ! :-)
This is a brilliant and very interesting video! Thank you to both of you!
So glad that it's helpful ! Thx for being here :-)
Also, if you're looking for synth community vibes, hit up my Discord ! discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
Great vid! 🤘
I’ve similarly ended up using my TR-8S in the least Roland way possible, these days I sequence it entirely from my Deluge. That also feels blasphemous - but, whatever works!
Thank you for watching ! :-)
Amazing amount of ideas covered in this movie! Are there any plans for a series with this kind of content?
I’ve already reached out to a bunch of other artists - we’ll see who bites!
@@LiamKillen looking forward, good luck :)
Damn, super cool setup, thanks for sharing all the insights!
Always a pleasure
Hey hey great stuff and great explanation! I like the impro and i am building up my setup including also voice and guitar with rc202. Thanks for sharing all this tips!
It’s my pleasure!
Super impressive .. cheers to improvisation .. in all its forms! ..
Cheers!
🍻
I learned so much watching this.
Thank you for watching!
Love your videos! It would be nice if at the end of each interview, there was an extended music session.
I would do that - and this is going to sound pretty lame and content creator-ey to say - but if I include a long performance, most people just won't watch it and it will affect who actually sees this video.
I would recommend checking out Pat's music, linked in the description! :-)
Second time watching this… a third is on the horizon… amazing producers… amazing music … clear, simple expert opinion couple with toe-tapping goodness 🙏
Hey I really appreciate you tuning in. All the best in 2024
Such an addictive groove on this L K !
I know right!?
Great bloody video. I actually watched the whole thing. Aces mate!!!
Awesome! Thanks for watching and glad to help :-)
Such a beast of a setup. Great concepts tho, I'll try to apply this to Circuit Rhythm and TR-6S setup
Absolutely!
Great video! very inspirational. Q: Where did you get the white/different buttons? that's a really good idea. Are they included with the Faderfox?
That's actually a really good question - i'm not sure.
@@LiamKillen they sell it on the faderfox page faderfox.de/accessories.html
Hey Great Vid I’m waiting on a FF MX 12 for my Rytm MK 2. Just wondering what stand was used. Looking for something just like that! Please and thanks for your time!!
Check out KV Gear! They should have what you need.
I like the table you're doing this on. Nice wood grain and colours.
(Yes, I'm here for the gear too 😅)
Thank you ! Yeah I wanted a nice warm table and I think it makes all the difference.
Good stuff!!! I play with the RYTM and MX-12 for years, faderfox and Elektron gear are a great combo :)
The perfect combo
TY for sharing, great info.
Always a pleasure :-)
Great tutorial, im going to copy your setup i think :).. Do you adjust the tempo of your set? Also, with the black box loop samples, do they need to be the same tempo as your beat or do they auto stretch to match the tempo. Thanks!
I would reach out to Pat directly for this one - maybe hit him on Insta ! He also just joined my Discord, but I admit - he's not super active on it haha. Here's a link:
distrokid.com/vip/liamkillen
I have the toriaz sp 16 has a lot of the features of the rmx 1000 included which is really nice for transitioning , little menu diving great sequencer but catered more to making loop based songs . Kinda like a sp 404 on adrenaline..
I think it's best to focus on mastering your existing gear, the root reason for constantly trading gear for other gear is probably the individual’s probablm
Yeah 100% I’m in the same boat about mastering gear that you own
💯 the best gear is the ones you know
@stereo_img4595 👍 Agree another things is Discipline, I mean think about it, if the perfect piece of gear that does everything every surfaced will really it be the solution to our problem ?? I highly doubt it..
@@romi2910001That perfect piece is the RMX-1000 😄🤙🌌
Where can I get a KIK like that one Liam and Pat? Amazingly fun round, full and present :)
That's the Analog Rytm kik which yes, does sound ridiculously good.
Always love your setup 👍🏿how do you like the t-1?
Yeah Pat’s set up is killer in this one!
T-1 is magical ✨🔮
Is the dual oscillator for his bass sound actually a sample that is looped - like on his synth sounds ?
I know on the elektrons that a lot of the sounds come from people looping a single waveform … basically I’m wondering if you can do this exact set up that he has using the PC12 to utilise filter functions, but on the Octatrack instead of the Rytm…
I'm not 100 % sure on each voice ! Maybe reach out to his insta, he might see and answer :-)
@@LiamKillen thx Liam, tho it’s too late as I’ve bought an OT …
And a T-1…
😵💫
@@LiamKillen btw I love this tutorial- keep coming back to it
Alright, I’m scratching my head regarding the controls for the open and closed hihats… 😅 to be able to control the common parameters (decay, tuning etc.) for both at the same time, I imagine that the voices are set to the same midi channel ? But then how do you separate the volume controls of both between 2 knobs ? Am I missing something obvious maybe ? Awesome video and setup !
I would reach out to pat for this one ! @stereoimg on Insta :-)
Also if you have any gear / tech questions my Discord is always a great resource for info ! discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
@@LiamKillendone and done ! And I’ll post the answer here. Cheers
Here’s the answer for anyone wondering, from Pat:
“Hey man! Really good question because that is the trickiest part of my setup. I had to map the controls that I wanted to share a knob to a performance macro and the midi controller is mapped to the macro. This is a fairly specific work around for the Rytm in particular. If you don’t have a Rytm then you could look into midi controllers that send more than one midi message like the yaeltek stuff. But yeah the CHH and OHH have to be on different midi channels if you want to send them separate sequences and have separate volume control.”
So inspiring. Is it possible to do the same setup, but with synakt instead of the rytm?
You could but it wouldn’t be as good IMO 😏
@@LiamKillen
i think its because of the lack on sample using?
thnks for this video !! really really interesting ! 1 instrument master, a lot of controls and only 1 pattern for 1 live !! UFO set up but really interesting to get close of total improvisation instead of all the other artists that are 100% prepared live set. Its great to invit artists like him !
Yes! I’ve got some other artists coming in again soon 😊
Cool set up. I am confused how he hooks up the k2 to the black box though. Does it have usb midi?
I’m not 100% sure tbh
How is the Rytm getting midi from both the PC12 and the T-1?
I'm not 100 % sure about the midi set up but I do know that PC-12 has 2 ins and outs which may have opened up some flow right there.
thanks for these type of videos with the guest explaining their workflow. one suggestion i have is to put their name in the title or at least in the description. and maybe links to some of their websites. thanks again though!
I’ve left links to their website / music in the description + pointed to their social media handle at the beginning of the video 😊
As for including their artist names in the title, I really want these videos to be more about the gear than anything else- because that’s what most of audience would rather focus on!
Thank you for watching!
@@LiamKillen wow i apologise, i dont know how i missed the link in the description. maybe i was looking for "stereo image" not "stereo img". anyways my bad!
lmao you and that dust blower 😂 sweet jam my dude :)
I need it!! Lol thx for watching
He's in good company using the Torso T-1 to drive a set like this. Anthony Childs (AKA Surgeon) too. Declarative Techno is a great way to go for generating material, leaves the performer to concentrate on sound sculpting, arrangement, mixing, effects and transitions. It's a bit more like being a conductor than having to take care of every little detail. Neat idea using the Mod Dwarf for mastering chain. There aren't too many standalone devices to do that, if you don't want to either bring a laptop, or spend really quite a lot on the DOCtron Stimming Instant Mastering Chain. Idk, maybe the newer Analog Heat mk.II can also be useful for that, compared to the Analog Heat mk.I?
Yeah I so want the T-1 now
Wow, this was informative and inspiring - thank you 🙏🏽 Better get jamming extensively with those single patterns!
1 bar is apparently all you need! Lol
Sometimes 1/4 bar is all you need 😅
Like a sourdough starter but for endless delicious musical experimentations 🍞✨
I have RYTM mkii but I don’t love it I wonder if digitakt would work instead
Digitakt is also a very intuitive drum machine, for sure
really good insight, thank you for this!
Always a pleasure
How are the rytm and blackbox audio mixed?
I'm really not sure on that one.
I have toraiz squid in my setup for the faderfox+torso t1 functionality. Not so versatile but it just do the job. And my sound modules are physical boxes with lots of knobs already. If someone in comments section ever mind about more affordable alternative, this approach might be usefull
Thanks for this addition ! Someone helpful like you may get along in my Discord - here's an invite: discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
That was really insightful! Thanks a lot for sharing your workflow!
Thanks for watching! 🍻
Nice setup and thank you for the video! Is there any way to get more information about the ModDwarf mastering chain? I would be very happy to get more insight into the programmed signal chain.
I don’t know too much about it but maybe it’ll make another appearance on the channel one day 😊
You should have an affiliate link for that tiny vacuum/brush - been trying to find it on Amazon and can't quite match it
I don't thin this model is available anymore but it's the opolar air blower.
@@LiamKillen Even so, this already helped - I was searching for a vacuum, haha. Just ordered a similar model!
Oh, and I also blame you for ordering a Model 1.4 sooo... thanks for that 😂
I have another question that you probably can help with. With this setup, how does one remember their set? Is there a risk of creating something you forget hwo to reproduce?
With Pat's set up, it's all happening on the fly so it's like a very spontaneous, in the moment thing - the part is composed, Pat sits on it for a bit - and then it's gone, onto the next part.
Great video! Many thanks 🙏 but Liam, tell me more about the handhoover 😂 which one is the best for gear? I‘m still a standard befaco handbrush user
I bought a blower from a company called opolar!
But why not just focus on the torso that can do midi cc too? Any reason other than the tactility? Many thanks 🙏🏻 ❤
You'd have to ask Pat for a specific answer on that ! You sound like someone who would be at home in my Discord - here's an invite :-) discord.gg/xj8J2xJuBP
Does anyone know if analog rytm MK2 has midi learn ?
You can assign midi cc with whichever controller you’re using
this is a real nugget!! thanks for the vid and the insights.
My pleasure - thanks for watching.
I’m really thinking (hard) about the 1010 music Black Box, to pair with my TR8s. I was gonna invest in the T.E. KO ll but I can’t tell you how much the manufacture issues have put me off!
Yeahhhh I understand your take on this
What stand are you using for the AR and pc12?
I'm pretty sure it's from synth rise - one of their models.