They really use the money they get from players to make the game better and better. Players who have been playing since day one will really notice how much they improve with each patch.
They also listen to players a lot. People asked for a solution for having to bring Chixia or Aalto out for puzzles that require shooting, and they implemented the gun gadget. People saw that resources etc felt a little low, so now they have frequent double drop events, and more events on top of that. I personally sent them feedback during a survey that stated my issue with the NPC Yhan. When I talked to him, I couldn't skip through some of his dialogue to get into Simulation. I had to wait until it played out. I noticed that very recently this was fixed.
They listening to their player base Soo good that people in r/WutheringWave actually started to think there is a impostor among them, because some of them feature that was never asked to implemented but only said in the comments section is actually added into the game...
marco gets it, wuwa has the ability to immerse you in the world and story, kudos marco, for continuing your journey in game music, and for having wuwa in your interests
@@v00.d00_child well events like these are how game devs test out new mechanics they plan to add by testing the waters if the platers reception would want it added to the core gameplay lets just see the survey by the end of this patch and just suggest it there cause from what i remember the previous versions there are few questions specifically dedicated where it ask if players liked a specific mechanic on the events although in my opinion they need to improve that action screen flash tho LOL, after looking at it a couple dozen times some characters look dumb (especially camellya)
I don't think that's a good sign, actually. Most gachas who do a major reform to catch up to the earliest server will fall immediately after. They're rushing about 1.5 years worth of content in a few months, definitely not looking good for the players.
I hope the Kuro game team invites you to their soundtrack making event and listens to your suggestions on music. I really like your music reviews. We hope you will continue to monitor the development of this new game and provide an objective and weighty assessment like now. Good Job mr.marco👏🔥
I remember people say,kuro don't know how to promote their games, well look now the even sponsor a Randowis animation to promote patch 1.4 and it's really funny as hell 😂😂😂
they was promoting but rarely appeared on ads for me but I like it. Not smashing Hoyo here but I don't like their aggresive promoting 😅. Burnice on every ads feel kind of annoyying.
I don't remember: did you react to the third Depths of Illusive Realm themes? It had a very similar, yet also distinctly unique, downtime theme, and its battle themes were separated not just in intensity and triggered by style score upping from B to S and up, but also in genres somewhere. A great event all-around from back in 1.2.
4:00 these short dream/quests was conected to their companions quests u actually see all of these domains first in each specfic domain quest before the event i dont know if u do zhezhi changli or encore but these 3 are really good when changli and encore is just peak after peak i really recomend to do these 2 quest first when u have time marco! Glad u enjoy the game and the music
The ost you heard during the running minigame belongs to part of the Illusive Realm music if I'm correct. Specifically when you get rank B->A. You should also check out the Illusive Realm OSTs
i have no interest in going back to wuwa but it's nice to know the music is improving. i'll just experience this game vicariously through you and your short videos about it like these.
I actually had no idea that you were a fan of Wuthering Waves. I remember the early impressions being mixed and your early video about the score being unimpressive. I'm glad to hear things have gotten better and your opinion on the game and its music has improved. The traincar (?) music sounded pretty great.
Yeah it's normal though, Kuro has just started developing their in-house music team instead of relying solely on VGS (I would still like if they do some OSTs time to time though). So it's understandable it wont immediately start great. But overtime we could notice the improvements on their OSTs :)
I agree when i first started Zhezhi's quest back in the day I didnt like the character much, but as time grew, I really grew to appreciate her quest, hardships of an artist. Amazing. Kuro cant stop cooking!
Rover and Camelliya are bound by the string of twisted fate, every patch is just a new movie every update man, it's just that beautiful. PS5 PLAYERS, YOUR TIME HAS ARRIVED, NEXT PATCH PS5 CONFIRMED
blackshores OST was the game changer for me. It was like entering enkanomyia in Genshin some years ago... I'll never forget that moment, and having It on Wuwa was really nice.
I’m sad that once you finish the msq for the somnium event this music goes away. I love it so much and I wanted to hear more of it when I do my weekly illusive realms clears
I have had a similar experience with WuWa. When the game launched, I had a really hard time getting immersed in the game, but I stuck with it and agree the characters, story, and OST have continually improved to the point I really enjoy playing it.
will you react to some more wuthering waves songs/ pieces like An unfinished song, a million possibilities or ( astrum Unicum? Stars, rebirth, and you) ? i really feel like wuthering waves has improved with the music and it makes me so happy
I really love the whole direction the OST and game in general keep taking. Also hoping you get to listen to the new Illusive Somnoire track (D- through SS-Rank), though I'm not quite sure the OST is quite so memorable from a purely musical standpoint, I can surely say it might be one of my favourite tracks from the game, especially SS.
The music was their weak spot. Now they really improve that. Someone say that game have no income, it is dying, but I see it's not even close. Moreover, it blooms like a... Camelia flowers, yes, hehe. So I'm just playing and I like it.
Hey Marco, I would like you to look at another Gacha game called Fate Grand order, which used to be the most popular Gacha game and started the trend of Gacha games having really good music. Its hard to get into but I can definitely say a lot of the tracks in it are some of the best.
Ok but that Full Metal Alchemist wallpaper though! :) I agree that they improved the music a lot from 1.0. They seem to love leitmotifs being intertwined between a chracter and a place like Jinhsi and Mt. Firmament, Shorekeeper and Black Shores, then Camellya and her theme. It was a great idea cause once you remember one element, we players tie them all together. I hope they do this to most of their characters. They still add lot ambient music but are more interestingly composed imo. I know you're not fond of non-melodic ambient music and you're probably annoyed by the likes of me from recommending them. lol. but perhaps it'll be a great idea for you to explore genres and musical elements that you usually don't like. I remember that you also didn't like EDM before until being "baptized" by Vanguard Sound and their work for PGR. Or seemingly chaotic compositions like Exorcism from PGR. You'll never know what you'll find. It's like a journey to the unknown. Part of the beauty of art is that it's subjective and affects us differently. I suggest listening to Ludvig Forsell's work from Death Stranding like Once There Was an Explosion which is mostly ambient. It's similar to Edenis from PGR or the Narfall Barrens theme in 1.0 WuWa. Same with ambient music from Sable, Disco Elysium, the Metro Series, etc. Forsell had an interview with Sony if i'm not mistaken regarding the misconception and the challenges when composing music not driven by melody but rather by "atmosphere" or "vibe." It's an interesting subject matter. Great analysis as always Mr. Marco! Watched it during the stream.
I like wuthering waves in terms of gameplay, what makes me like it even more is how much kurogames (developer of wuwa) cares about the players and the game... they don't make us a money field but they try to give the best, even though the game is not perfect they continue to improve every patch and that's why I love this game, they create a warm bond between the developer and the player rather than just making the player a cash cow
5:00 The melody sounds familiar, but I just cant remember in what other OST did I hear it before. Edit: the second verse of the Final Song from Drakengard 3.
I remember that in the beginning you were not a big fan of the movement and world traversal in Wuthering Waves. Did that opinion change or are you still not very fond of it?
This is the reason that I like WuWa music way more than Genshin music. It is simple but very efficient. It fits the context very well. I also like how they emphasize the main melody in 1.3 (Shorekeeper melody) and 1.1 (Jinhsi melody).
![Mortefi Is A Cheat Code For New Illusive Realm - Level V (100 HP) 430% Drop Rate [Wuthering Waves]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/-j-JZ1-Q5sM/mqdefault.jpg)
They really use the money they get from players to make the game better and better. Players who have been playing since day one will really notice how much they improve with each patch.
They also listen to players a lot. People asked for a solution for having to bring Chixia or Aalto out for puzzles that require shooting, and they implemented the gun gadget. People saw that resources etc felt a little low, so now they have frequent double drop events, and more events on top of that.
I personally sent them feedback during a survey that stated my issue with the NPC Yhan. When I talked to him, I couldn't skip through some of his dialogue to get into Simulation. I had to wait until it played out. I noticed that very recently this was fixed.
its still crazy that the game has only been out like 6 months
I think spending my money in this game more worth it 💀
They listening to their player base Soo good that people in r/WutheringWave actually started to think there is a impostor among them, because some of them feature that was never asked to implemented but only said in the comments section is actually added into the game...
REAL quality of life and fixes
marco gets it, wuwa has the ability to immerse you in the world and story, kudos marco, for continuing your journey in game music, and for having wuwa in your interests
I really love the new Soniore theme... Some parts in the main quest and Camellya's story quest were very beautiful and elevating
They've released camellya theme on Spotify ❤️
it sucks tho since its a limited event and it has some significant story for each characters in it
@@ozoahameg3582 the new combined ult is sick, wish they kept it in the permanent soniore
@@v00.d00_child well events like these are how game devs test out new mechanics they plan to add by testing the waters if the platers reception would want it added to the core gameplay
lets just see the survey by the end of this patch and just suggest it there
cause from what i remember the previous versions there are few questions specifically dedicated where it ask if players liked a specific mechanic on the events
although in my opinion they need to improve that action screen flash tho LOL, after looking at it a couple dozen times some characters look dumb (especially camellya)
@@ozoahameg3582 They promoted it as a permanent event actually, there are just limited rewards
And from all the profit they got in WuWa.
They're now making PGR catch up to the CN version, huge KURO Ws all over!!!
I don't think that's a good sign, actually. Most gachas who do a major reform to catch up to the earliest server will fall immediately after. They're rushing about 1.5 years worth of content in a few months, definitely not looking good for the players.
@@tain4388 Perhaps, that can happen but for the NEW players it is very good
@@tain4388 how about we wait before doom posting?
@@tain4388 in kuro we trust
@@tain4388 DMC collab for all server would make bucks, so I think it's worth catching up, I'm sure they has already calculated this
I hope the Kuro game team invites you to their soundtrack making event and listens to your suggestions on music. I really like your music reviews. We hope you will continue to monitor the development of this new game and provide an objective and weighty assessment like now.
Good Job mr.marco👏🔥
🙏🙏🙏
Can't wait for 2.0 ❤❤❤
Yeah the music from Wuwa is getting better and better, that ost from Camellya quest with the violin is sooo good.
cammellia the japanese dude ? thats insanse
@@Gabriel_Domingues que? Kkkkk
@@Gabriel_Domingues fedora hat guy XDXD
I remember people say,kuro don't know how to promote their games, well look now the even sponsor a Randowis animation to promote patch 1.4 and it's really funny as hell 😂😂😂
There is still more they could be doing. I don't see any WuWa RUclips ads or anything. But they are improving.
@@JosepiThe13thwhat are you talking about? I always see WuWa ads on RUclips lol
@@JosepiThe13th its always pop up on my yt. especially when they have big updates coming
I feel like most of their promotion is in CN and South Korea though. They really could still be doing better honestly.
they was promoting but rarely appeared on ads for me but I like it. Not smashing Hoyo here but I don't like their aggresive promoting 😅. Burnice on every ads feel kind of annoyying.
Super curious of what the music is going to be like in Rinascita, since it's most likely going to be inspired by Italian culture.
Definitely bella ciao 😂😂
*[Insert "Luigi Boccherini: Minuetto" here]*
Classical techno?
you can see in the latest video Wuwa, there is already a little example of music in Rinascita
I don't remember: did you react to the third Depths of Illusive Realm themes? It had a very similar, yet also distinctly unique, downtime theme, and its battle themes were separated not just in intensity and triggered by style score upping from B to S and up, but also in genres somewhere. A great event all-around from back in 1.2.
There is a video from Narushio, transitioning music from each rank from D to S. Marco should watch it honestly, its incredible.
Depths of Illusive realm seems to always have my favorite music. Should have a listen if you play it.
4:00 these short dream/quests was conected to their companions quests u actually see all of these domains first in each specfic domain quest before the event i dont know if u do zhezhi changli or encore but these 3 are really good when changli and encore is just peak after peak i really recomend to do these 2 quest first when u have time marco! Glad u enjoy the game and the music
i still listen to the shorekeeper piano song everyday or play it in the background while working, kuro really gave us some hidden gems.
It's great watching their progress.
From the atrocious launch to now and they're still improving more and more.
The ost you heard during the running minigame belongs to part of the Illusive Realm music if I'm correct. Specifically when you get rank B->A. You should also check out the Illusive Realm OSTs
i have no interest in going back to wuwa but it's nice to know the music is improving. i'll just experience this game vicariously through you and your short videos about it like these.
It alright, hoping you find a better game 👍
I actually had no idea that you were a fan of Wuthering Waves. I remember the early impressions being mixed and your early video about the score being unimpressive.
I'm glad to hear things have gotten better and your opinion on the game and its music has improved. The traincar (?) music sounded pretty great.
Yeah it's normal though, Kuro has just started developing their in-house music team instead of relying solely on VGS (I would still like if they do some OSTs time to time though). So it's understandable it wont immediately start great. But overtime we could notice the improvements on their OSTs :)
So glad you love this game so much. I’m so excited going forward as well!
I agree when i first started Zhezhi's quest back in the day I didnt like the character much, but as time grew, I really grew to appreciate her quest, hardships of an artist. Amazing. Kuro cant stop cooking!
thats why Kuro games and Arrowheads are my fav developers this year, they both listened to player
You said everything perfectly and I'm looking forward to 2.0
Rover and Camelliya are bound by the string of twisted fate, every patch is just a new movie every update man, it's just that beautiful.
PS5 PLAYERS, YOUR TIME HAS ARRIVED, NEXT PATCH PS5 CONFIRMED
Can't agree more. This theme is very fitting and memorable. Kuro really nails the vibes. There's something special about this game.
the melody at 4:51 reminds me of Kuroi Uta from Drakengard, all but the last note... very nice
So much potential for Carnivale music on 2.0, gonna be great
blackshores OST was the game changer for me. It was like entering enkanomyia in Genshin some years ago... I'll never forget that moment, and having It on Wuwa was really nice.
I’m sad that once you finish the msq for the somnium event this music goes away. I love it so much and I wanted to hear more of it when I do my weekly illusive realms clears
Good to have you onboard Marco, and I hope theu contact you as well (Rinasita might be Italian)
Have u tried Encore Companion Quest? That music is good tho, also about the story is really good !!
Cant wait to see your reaction to Camellya's quest music
Wuthering Waves keeps getting better and better music!
I have had a similar experience with WuWa. When the game launched, I had a really hard time getting immersed in the game, but I stuck with it and agree the characters, story, and OST have continually improved to the point I really enjoy playing it.
will you react to some more wuthering waves songs/ pieces like An unfinished song, a million possibilities or ( astrum Unicum? Stars, rebirth, and you) ? i really feel like wuthering waves has improved with the music and it makes me so happy
He has already reacted to An Unfinished Song.
ruclips.net/video/6nn1RKiFw5A/видео.html
@ Oh, thank you sm
Their use of lighting also improved by a lot in this patch especially in the somnoire
Technically, the Somnoire Runner theme is also the Depths of the Illusory Realm battle music.
Wuwa got nominated for TGA, i hope people vote for wuthering wave on mobile game of the year.
pokemon's probably gonna win cuz recency bias and bias against gacha games and also cuz it's pokemon which has a huge fan base of many ages
@@captaindanger13it okay though, being nominate already show their worth. Of course I want them to win.
I have noticed that you never reacted to or played Metal: Hellsinger. I think you're gonna love the game and how it plays.
4:06 go back to the beginning scene of wuwa and it will make a bit more sense, along with what changli says at the end of the somnoire event quests :>
i totally agree! the biggest game improvement i have seen.❤
I really love this game 🙏🙏
all the music since 1.3 has been sending me. They found their groove.
exactly, theyre my go to music on loop while doing my boring day to day job at the office
Wuthering keeps on waving
I really love the whole direction the OST and game in general keep taking.
Also hoping you get to listen to the new Illusive Somnoire track (D- through SS-Rank), though I'm not quite sure the OST is quite so memorable from a purely musical standpoint, I can surely say it might be one of my favourite tracks from the game, especially SS.
Yay Marco wuwa vid🎉🎉🎉
Also can’t wait for camellya analysis on her ost
Sicne next region is based on Italy. UUU....this is gonna be interesting in hearing Marco's perspective 😀
Ever since 1.3, Wuthering Waves deffinitly improved a lot in story and songs
Its no PGR level of greatness yet, but it is doing much better than 1.0
hoping to see chapter 17 type of story in WuWa...it will be a while but yeah we really need some PTSD 😂
I can't wait for this game to come out on ps5 for my birthday, my PC can't handle it unfortunately TwT
The music was their weak spot. Now they really improve that. Someone say that game have no income, it is dying, but I see it's not even close. Moreover, it blooms like a... Camelia flowers, yes, hehe. So I'm just playing and I like it.
Hey Marco, I would like you to look at another Gacha game called Fate Grand order, which used to be the most popular Gacha game and started the trend of Gacha games having really good music. Its hard to get into but I can definitely say a lot of the tracks in it are some of the best.
Ok but that Full Metal Alchemist wallpaper though! :)
I agree that they improved the music a lot from 1.0. They seem to love leitmotifs being intertwined between a chracter and a place like Jinhsi and Mt. Firmament, Shorekeeper and Black Shores, then Camellya and her theme. It was a great idea cause once you remember one element, we players tie them all together. I hope they do this to most of their characters. They still add lot ambient music but are more interestingly composed imo.
I know you're not fond of non-melodic ambient music and you're probably annoyed by the likes of me from recommending them. lol. but perhaps it'll be a great idea for you to explore genres and musical elements that you usually don't like. I remember that you also didn't like EDM before until being "baptized" by Vanguard Sound and their work for PGR. Or seemingly chaotic compositions like Exorcism from PGR. You'll never know what you'll find. It's like a journey to the unknown. Part of the beauty of art is that it's subjective and affects us differently.
I suggest listening to Ludvig Forsell's work from Death Stranding like Once There Was an Explosion which is mostly ambient. It's similar to Edenis from PGR or the Narfall Barrens theme in 1.0 WuWa. Same with ambient music from Sable, Disco Elysium, the Metro Series, etc.
Forsell had an interview with Sony if i'm not mistaken regarding the misconception and the challenges when composing music not driven by melody but rather by "atmosphere" or "vibe." It's an interesting subject matter.
Great analysis as always Mr. Marco! Watched it during the stream.
The Somnoire music is really nice indeed. Personally, I also find myself stopping and just listening to the music playing in the Norfall Barrens area.
I like wuthering waves in terms of gameplay, what makes me like it even more is how much kurogames (developer of wuwa) cares about the players and the game... they don't make us a money field but they try to give the best, even though the game is not perfect they continue to improve every patch and that's why I love this game, they create a warm bond between the developer and the player rather than just making the player a cash cow
Great to see you enjoy it too. Let's see if it remains your fav in even 3 months tho 😂
The new area in illusive realm also has a great ost when you reach SS rank
great vid
Encore story quest is peak
5:00 The melody sounds familiar, but I just cant remember in what other OST did I hear it before.
Edit: the second verse of the Final Song from Drakengard 3.
is it kuroi uta as well? or just me?
I noticed, theres a new track that playes in front of the shop in jinzhou.
Marc you should listen to the new album that Wuwa recently released EGO contains all the musical pieces of the Camellya mission recommended.
WUWA WUWA WUWA
the Illusive realm new theme sound very similar to Ash of Dreams from Nier Replicant
from disappointment to most beloved game
Marco you look a little bit tired man you good man?
Yup! Great! This was at 10 am lol
Have you seen the 2.0 teaser drip they dropped?? 👀
Yes 😭😭😭
Hope kurogame reach you for a rinascita collab🙏
I do wish people stopped comparing to PGR non stop.
Instead of letting WuWa be its own thing
I remember that in the beginning you were not a big fan of the movement and world traversal in Wuthering Waves. Did that opinion change or are you still not very fond of it?
I’ve always like the movement and traversal! That can’t be me!
@@MarcoMeatball Oh, my bad! I am glad that you enjoy it!! 😄
@@AryaLux :)
I've only noticed how similar Somnium theme is to Kuroi Uta when you started singing.
Does anyone know if the change in music direction is because VGS came in to help?
No, i believe VGS is not working with wuwa anymore, i looked up to their website and they removed wuwa from their game works
not really, wuwa music has always been kuro's in-house.
@@astr1d.x-y-z Not entirely. Some(?) 1.3 music was composed by Adam Gubman.
@astr1d.x-y-z thanks for clearing that up
This patch has so much content, and it's actually good content, Depths of Illusive Realm is so fun
Gerbil girl XD
For me Camellya ost is the best 💞
KURO + VANGUARD SOUND STUDIO = music masterpieces
I don't think this is even with Vanguard studio though.
@@Ew-wth it is actually but they just kind of be director for music thing not like they did with PGR
I wish some of PGR music would leak into wuwa
Still dont see the appeal of Changli.
She's objectively pretty, but different strokes for different folks I guess
The ceo or lead dev was a buff guy. He lost a lot of weight over the few months with working on Wuwa
Lol, I don't think that's true. What you're referring to is someone putting his head on top of a buff body through photoshop or AI.
@Ew-wth was it really? Bummer.
Pls react to the Metro Exodus OST
Camellya story was amazing I hope to see your reaction after completing it
Its the same feeling from Dreamland Ponacony from HSR ❤
It's all really nice and rly beautiful, but it feels more and more like a dating sim, especially the last two story missions. I don't like it at all
This is the reason that I like WuWa music way more than Genshin music. It is simple but very efficient. It fits the context very well. I also like how they emphasize the main melody in 1.3 (Shorekeeper melody) and 1.1 (Jinhsi melody).
I'd say that they have some really good tracks, but no way would I ever put them on the same level as or let alone above Genshin's music, honestly.
eh, it keeps improving but not yet on par with genshin imo
Ded gaem
Looking forward to see how ded it gets with 2.0