The Most Honest Devs in Gacha Gaming
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
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It's crazy that Kuro had more information on their QoL updates in a 30 minute stream than Hoyoverse did in 2 hours.
Version 1.3. vs Version 5.0.
There are so many Genshin players LOOKING for a reason to come back to the game
But when the devs view every new addition as some cringe negotiation where they have to extract something out of the player in exchange?
It's been 4 years. It's exhausting. Stop treating your players like garbage.
“2 hours” I think you mean 2 years😂
@@TechyCatz That flappy bird intro to the 5.0 livestream taking 15 minutes was the biggest middle finger I could imagine to the playerbase.
agree
@@saintontas u mean fuck you? what are u a kid???
Genshin - QoL patch: Strings Attached
WuWa - You cant say our name without two Ws
Like wow! Amazing.
💯
Lmaooo .. truee 😂
WuWa is the first game I spent real money not to gain an advantage but I literally want to support these awesome Devs.
In WuWa you get so much more gameplay from limited characters that, if you can spend, you should spend at least to pull for every single one.
Imagine Zhongli, a limited 5*, with his only gameplay being to swap onto his character, hold a button, and then pretend he doesn't exist for 20 seconds.
People pay money for this gameplay in Genshin Impact.
Same here, Mate.
@@saintontas it's literally one of the reasons why I ditched genshin. One of the best decisions I've ever made in my life.
Ikr
@@saintontas So far I have 1 copy of every single char and their weapon (except for Changli's, which I missed by 3 pulls). And the only thing I regret is not having enough resources to upgrade them all (as of yet) My Wind Team is severely undercooked.
Da Wei: Cries on stage
Kuru Devs: Chilling on the beach with a nice bonfire.
💯
That's so true. 👌😂
Kuro Devs behind the scenes though, words says they work so hard
@@artaizen1613 its rumored they had a lot of overtime stays but they also have a extremely strict weekend off policy, the xiangli yao giveaway event is on early before the actual giveaway because the planned time is on a saturday so they literally updated the event first and timed it so it would just open on saturday so they dont have to go to work to push an update its hilarious
When did he cry?
Do you think you're ever gonna run out of "Wuwa ruined ________" thumbnails 💀 I really hope not
The only chance that happens is when Kuro stops making updates to the game.
WuWa ruined my relationship!
@@saintontasif that happens you can make a video called "Kuro ruined Saintontas"
My heart everytime I saw saintonitas thumbnail : 💔
its his brand at this point
So true. I have been playing Genshin since 2020 but after I played WuWa my view on Genshin has not been the same. Love everything about Kuro.
Yeah as someone who played Genshin from the beginning and also played Wuwa. I don’t even want to spend money on Genshin when compared to Wuwa.
It's really surprising to me it took this long for some Genshin players to realize how badly Genshin is handled
After i played wuwa i never went back to genshin. Mind you i played since launch of genshin. Hoyo is so focus with the $$ rather than the game itself and its player base. That so called quality of life from genahin is more like quantitiy of money the devs would have in thier pockets.😂🤣
@@Crispymantis123i always sees hoyo as a greedy company who's that much of a money grabber- i mean i understand the word business but the dev-player relationship from them is so toxic, no way im spending a cent to support them though they're really good at handling and hyping their things up so i wont disregard their "free" game completely just because but overall hoyo is shitass company who'm i personally wanna see get humbled by other company on the same category.
I played genshin on release and quit before 1.1 update lol,i knew it was trash from early on
doing survey in wuthering waves actually feels important and rewarding since devs do listen to them
Yes i've wrote about endgame with co op and they did it!
I yapp a LOT in surveys and it's worth it
@@albepaidman you got your wish man
@@albepaidman yes , I too wrote about difficulty in getting resonator upgrade materials
As a pgr player since release, i am so so happy more people get to experience a game lead by this wonderful dev team. They have earned all the praise.
I loved PGR for like 6-12 months. The story was kinda hard to follow and I lost interest or got busy but I‘ll always remember it as one of the best gachas in existence. It was also extremely generous and I was able to get basically every character as F2P player.
@@palegangstathe story is so good right now, u are missing out if u don’t follow it but it’s up to u ig if u want to pursue it or not
Honestly, it came from experience. When they released PGR globally, they changed the prices of stuff and they received backlash. They did responded of course, but after that, they learned how to navigate with both CN and global players or at least they try to.
PGR is SO GOOD, both Wuwa and PGR deserve the support because Kurogames is just an amazing Dev Team. Expect lots more rewards guys, they care and always have.
Dude i just started Punishing Gray Raven and it has taken second place for my favorite gacha game. First is wuwa, third is cookie run kingdom. hsr genshin and hi3 are getting left in the dust rn
THE MOST HONEST DEVS ❌
THE BEST DEVS 🗿
Both 🗿
BASED KURO DEVS 🗿🙌🏻
Playing WuWa after 4 years of Genshin feels like a genuine healing experience.. the difference is night and day, on ALL levels.
Me playing Wuwa for an hour : 😌 Feels good
Me playing GI for 10 minutes : WHY THE F DIDN'T THEY IMPLEMENT THIS ON 1.0!? WHY THE F DIDN'T THEY IMPLEMENT THIS ON THE WHOLE MAP!? 🤬🤬
My only complaint is the damn performance it's still bad even tho I am playing on a somewhat mid-range pc
@@Truxidious there are workarounds on that bro, there's literally youtube videos about that. Also, update your hardware
@@Truxidious lower your game graphics, update your drivers or upgrade your pc.
@@Truxidious realy? my set up is 7 Years old and it runs perfect.
Will always support the hoyo slander. The money i spent on them is my biggest regret. Like yeah i got unreal lucky with almost all my pulls but the game is still garbage and has not improved.
Exactly, one of my biggest regrets nowadays is that I spent money on Mihoyo. If at least I had played it F2P, it wouldn't be too valuable for them. F2P exists just for too things: Sense of popularity when you go to coop and see a bunch of people on the team, and engagement for social media, such like seeing RUclips videos of content creators or the game itself.
Engagement is inevitable, even if you're a hater, one time or another you're going to see a video of the game you hate.
And about engagement, it's important, but literally not the final objective. Popularity won't bring more investors, unless one of them do a bet on a possible product that will sell well, they're just attracted to actual MONEY, not number of players. If the game has 1 million of players, it doesn't matter when the revenue is less than a couple of thousands of dollars. So, playing the game is just a stair that can - or not - lead the company to the final objective that is selling things.
Basically: differently from what people like to say, F2P people are not the "ultimate contributors" to the game, and I would have liked to stay like that during my time playing it.
they are extremely shady with the QoL in hoyoverse, for example, the 50 50 thing, it seem pretty clear right, they even say it in the explanation of the wish system, is 55 45... WRONG is not, the 50 50 remains the same, the only thing that changes is that now, if you lose 2 50 50 in a row, that would be, 240 wishes, the next 50 50 is not a 50 50, is a 75 25, and if you loss that, then is a 100 0, so yeah in the long run like 10000 wishes you average it to 55 45, but is not really a 55 45, is a whale thing, a copium almost for f2p to say "well i have 5% more chance" no you dont, if i had 1 word to define hoyoverse it would be stingy, and if had 2, it would be stingily deceptive
For every feature Hoyo adds, there's always a 'but...'
@@saintontas yeah and it keeps hapening over and over specially in genshin, i dont play zzz nor hsr, but the new endgame came... but we still had only two instances of endgame, instead of 2 abyss resets and 1 theater reset we had 1 reset of each, basically meaning there is no new endgame, just replaced one instance of endgame with another, we increased the resin to 200 but it refreshes at the same rate, automatic dialogues... but no skip button and you still have to choose between 2 meaningless dialogue options of your character that dont even have a voice just so you dont walk away from the game and squeeze all your time, the only QoL that came with no but atached was the expedited dailys, that is the only thing that came with no, but or string atached, but it took them 4 years
That system doesn't exist anymore In geshits weapon pity system.
Funny thing is: Even that is just a theory of players. Hoyoverse never disclosed how the new wish system works, thus your comment is also just a guess😂
Have you seen apple hide their new iphone’s price and customer does the math to figure out how much the new iphone is? It’s so absurd
With the 55/45 either give me the limited character or don’t I don’t need the 5% chance 😂😂😂
I almost re-downloaded Genshin due to the fact that I'm bored while waiting for my waveplates to regen, but I don't think I should. I don't enjoy Genshin, I'm just on that level of boredom. But Mihoyo's games feel bad to play. Your time feels disrespected. YOU feel disrespected. You find yourself dreading opening their games instead of having a good time.
Wuthering Waves feels great to play. I definitely want to spend money on it in the future. Currently, I have no money, so that isn't an option, but I can dream.
don't man, I redownloaded it and it was the biggest disappointment ever, I can't enjoy anything about it. I can't even catch up to any of the new content because everything else takes so long. unless hoyoverse replaces their whole dev team with one that actually cares, there is no hope for the game
I quite literally tried going back to genshin for 3 days just to be constantly stuck in cutscenes of chars talking for 10 mins at a time, each time I just closed the game after the cutscenes ended. Then when trying to get around the chasm (I stopped some months after first anni, just before chasm released), I just got annoyed trying to climb stuff. Not worth the time or effort.
Only hoyo game I play atm is honkai star rail, but the day kuro makes a turn based game... :p
@@mrflakey6163 The problem usually lies with the executives and not devs. Actual devs usually have little to no creative control over the product in such large companies.
the nice thing about wuwa is you are not that pressured to open it like as often since the waveplate has the extra 480 storage
The other day I redownload HSR while playing WuWa. While installing I foresee the pain and suffering of building characters, getting trash relics, going through the story, boring events, boring gameplay with only two selectable option for a turn based game (make it three with ultimate) and the simulated universe weekly chore (even with Acheron QoL). Oh my! This isn't worth it so I had to cancel and delete it completely again on my computer lol.
Sorry if you like HSR. That game isn't just for me, personal preference. But I don't mind those who like it.
and i remember some genshin players like
"better than nothing" 😅
that fr used to be me bc i did not gaf about updates just characters bc i was way too addicted to the game. but as soon as i moved to wuwa and didnt get addicted anymore i just hate the community and devs for genshin😂
But this is true that it's better than nothing. But, just why hoyo? The treatment between hsr and genshin are so massively different
@@vyrde. its actual very insulting, the genshin devs obviously know what we want but they trick us that its actual smt but theres always a huge catch. yh i would rather have nothing than things that just ruin my expectations.
@@vyrde. ong. As a former GI player i dropped GI just to give more time to HSR, ZZZ and WuWa. They are more compensating more fun and overall not clunky and do good in aspects they promise to be good at. GI might not die because of the arrogant brainwashed fanbase but it's outclassed in every way even compared with different games from the SAME company.
@@vyrde. this is just a rumor that I heard, but apparently when Genshin was announced, it got a totally different team than HI3, so not like some core members of the Hi3 Dev team moved to Genshin team and they started again there. Thus they might have totally different view on how to approach the games which as we can see so far, is pretty greedy. Combine that with the covid era and their boom, they got complacent and lazy, thus we got what we have today. It sucks that this boom also hooked "FIRST TIMER" to the gacha games and a lot of them are prob people with spare money from first world country so they thought that spending that much money on games like this are totally OK.
I can already hear the hoyotard's footsteps they coming here to defend their billion dollar company... good luck man!
I've already got 5-6 videos in the same subject area. I can tank it.
"oh, but you can't add QoL features...it would ruin the vision for the game" (yes, talking about the skip button)
No billion it's a trillion dollar company and people still gonna defend hoyoshit its playerbase is just cringe and meatrider
@@ricardokojin7at the end of the day, the game sells combat and story is just flavor
@@saintontaswhat doesn't kill you, makes you stronger xD
Dawei with his crocodile tear just want to earn sympathy from players🙃
The hoyobots fell for it 😂😂😂
@@HhtggTggfghg after that he wipe his tears with million of dollars🗿
How many dawei crying ...? 😅
Yeah, Dawei’s false crying on a recorded video was pretty obvious.
it's a pr stunt.
It's not very different from a politician going to a meeting with only its supporters and sayiong things like " i love you, but other are means, but i'll do better !" . His supporters will cheer for anything he says but the others won't.
Only people who are fanatics goes to these events (same for Kuro btw;, this isn't unique to Hoyo).
Difference so far is : Kuro isn't being as greedy as Hoyo at all and they're even being more transparant than Hoyo despite not doing a stupid stream for EVERY patch coming out just to have voice actors be like "oh wow so coooool" .
Really, i don't exactly hate Genshin but the team behind Genshin impact disgust me to the core.
It's crazy because ZZZ on the other hand, has been very much like Kuro games.
next title better be "WUWA ruined marriage" or something like that, cause what hasn't this game ruined anymore???
of they implement a marriage mechanic, just imagine the noice the players will do.. imagine female rover marrying changli or yinlin.. 🤣🤣🤣
@@kasmichanConsidering how everyone gravitated towards the MC regardless of which sex they are,is kinda funny. I remember someone joking that Wuwa is secretly a dating sim.
@@savioalmeida1103PGR commandant rizzing up all construct of all genders
i love kuro so much and now i understand why ppl loved so much kuro with PGR
Pgr literally gives 100% drop rate for new characters while 80% for rerun. U can almost everything for free and easily in pgr and still enjoy it as game have difficulty level which makes the game really interesting.
The thing I don’t understand is that Wuthering Waves is a great game, but even so, it doesn't get that much attention that is even close to Genshin. Even when it comes to views on different social media platforms, Wuthering Waves has dropped recently while Genshin’s remains steady. The amount of people who streamed WuWa is less now than before. I appreciate Kuro trying their best to make the game better, but it looks like there's something missing that isn't holding players' interest for long.
@@rambii. hoyo have money, while kuro dont have that kind of money. like e.g in twitch hoyo creature is flooded by bots. twitter of genshin have bots. also genshin is already stablish huge amount of player base that no matter what expired food they gonna cater to the player base, the player will still gladly eat it.
@@reku469670% on rerun not 80%
@@reku4696how does it make money?
What’s the strat while being so player friendly?
Kuro: I'm an underdog because I'm doing what the industry should do as a standard.
Edit: let's be honest, it's no secret that MiHoyo was built up from the "give men/players a pretty girl that will love them and they'll pay" philosophy. Yes. They may have done some interesting games but their interest are pure money and with little to no competition (in the past) they won't do anything.
Now they have serious competition and they either underdeliver and go the Destiny route or they adapt and do what they know they have to.
I mean they're investing on making a second sun! Of course they need more money.
The serious competition for hoyo is currently LADS in china. Otherwise it doesn't exist.
this under dog has make a lot CN player like us left because start indie same as hoyo but....
PGR released WuWa
HI3 released GI, HSR, ZZZ (Both 3 project are listed at the same time during HI3 era)
not includes money to build School, Space Program, Blood Donations, Medical R&D, Mixed Reality Concert, Tuanjie (Unity CN) R&D, Nuclear R&D, Sea Life Rescue Program.
So, the most honest Dev eat our whale money and not even do good to the World. Story content not even improve a bit.
If you play on CN, you will know that Kuro literally black company that waste our money with a little sugar coating of what competitor lack.
Can't even deny the shady and scummy way of genshin dev trying to hide it's frustrations scheme towards player despite QoL in 5.0
For me, once wuwa released, genshin just died for me. I never came back to it after... Sure i tried, but I felt disgusted. I couldn't believe i enjoyed that game. And after 120 fps update. Genshin just doesn't exist anymore in my eyes.
Ikr
@@BonyaDK same
Can't wait for echo presets!
Why tho? There's literally no reason to need them...
@@Goujiki Do you have a faster way of sharing echoes between resonators?
okay but why do you need them? lol. It's not like there's multiple different sets. There's literally 1 Best in Slot for most characters. Just farm the echo and you're done, lmao. This is just the most baby shit take, like they gave you a golden goose, but actually it's just a goose that lays normal eggs lol.
@@Goujiki Yeah but theres a variety of diffrent stats and sub-stats within those sets that make it necessary for something like echo presets.
ATK%, Basic Attack DMG Bonus%, Crit DMG%, Crit Rate%, DEF%, Flat Attack, Flat Defence, Flat HP, Heavy Attack DMG Bonus%, HP%, Resonance Liberation DMG Bonus%, and Resonance Skill DMG Bonus%.
Have you forgotten about these?
Such a shame how Hoyo has such a huge market share in the gacha space, i see all the numbers Genshin and HSR are pulling and wish this could've been Wuwa cuz they really deserve it.
They could have turned out like hoyo if they were in that position. Right now they are fighting so hard because they have an uphill battle, going against the biggest gacha of the last 4+ years. The competition is bringing out their competitive side to win the gacha fight. And it's perfect for us consumers 😉. Let genshin sweat a little while wuwa is coming for them, let wuwa work extra hard to make a great game better by needing to try to match/surpass genshin's size. Either way, win win for us. I can play both gachas at the same time. It's up to them to vye for my money though since I can't SPEND on both of them.
@@luckytanuki5449 why you keep playing genshlt bro? like, i just don't get how many ppl prefer that game, i tried to play for 3 months and after a while i realized how fukn slow my progress would be with all the rng in artifacts and how expensive or time consuming the premium currency is
The reason hoyo is raking in cash despite their crappy games is simply cause it's highly predatory.
Wuwa gives no reason to spend on it. The only reason i even buy the monthly pass and battlepass on wuwa is cause i pity the devs and really wanna support them.
They're spend too much already on genshin making it hard to quit the game.
A whale will need to spend more money in hoyo games than in wuwa because the monetization is more predatory. Plus just having one new 5 star in version 1.3 gives a lot of "free to play"players enough time to save for 1.4 but sadly this will hurt WuWa financially.
This is crazy when I compare two devs - "Hoyoverse" and "Kurogames."
_One developer treats us like rats. While the other treats us like humans._
And still, there are people who try to defend Genshin as the best game and say that WW is dead. IT'S NOT DEAD! Whoever is saying that can suck my fat, and go to the nearby mental institution for help. I'm loosing my mind who dirt-talk Wuthering Waves and its company.
_One developer gives you stuff with a huge string attached. While the other: "You said something? Sure we'll add more events on top of that to help you with resources. No problem."_
Wuthering Waves has a big W in my book because they LISTEN TO Of all the game developers, "Kurogames" is the only one who goes further and beyond. It has my utmost loyalty and support. I want to spend on this game. I want to invest.
They follow the key leadership aspect and there's a good quote: _"First you have to touch once heart before the man will lend his hand."_
Genshin players has that kind of Game Superiority I have a Friend like that I used to have fun hanging out, now I kind of annoyed whenever he keeps telling me his game is better.
Nah cause I saw this one genshin dude that was fuming and saying “oh the only reason you play wuthering waves is because the devs are generous”.
Now im not gonna lie, that is a pretty good reason to play the gam. Now something dumb is that they basically ignored the combat which is more engaging, the movement system that makes exploration actually fun, the echo system which is like the artifact system but 9x better, the gacha system that is waaaaaay less predatory than every other gacha system except PGR, and the story which is actually really good.
genshin STILL COULD NEVER
AND WILL NEVER🤡
@@nabenabe-cb7eegenshin really keeps their player edged all the time
Genshin slander WILL be tolerated and supported
genshin still could never, will never and still NOTHING
@@nabenabe-cb7ee true 😂😭
why is this not on noti, i clicked the bell
youtube sucks
genshin is truly hoyo's cash cow. they do qol in every other game they make but genshin. its also the one that usually make the most money too( i know hsr is pretty much making the same now, and zzz is still "new"). it blows my mind how it still makes so much tbh. they got their players wrapped around their pinky. its the iphone of gacha games it feels.
Pretty accurate. Highest Prices around, least quality of life and leads hate their customers with a passion.
A lot of players have already probably dumped a lot of time and possibly money, and it’s not easy to give that up.
Really, that also what confuse me... like Hoyo able to make great games with great QoL updates, like what they've done so far with HI3 and HSR for example, but why can't they do the same with genshin? Like is it being handled by completely different branch of company or what?
Apparently diff leads@@hxppythxughts7149
@@hxppythxughts7149 different teams with different leads i believe is the issue. and i personally think them not listening to players/making qol was due to the zhongli incident. thats just what i think tho
I love how a lot of people was immediately convinced that DaWei crying on stage is genuine, and the way he used the "mental health" issues card, saying how the team is anxious and scared, rather than ACTUALLY doing and fixing the issues.
Its standard Chinese marketing strat for me
At this point fake crying comes at a default for chinese scammers, if you see chinese crying 100% someone is being scammed
@@overcast2018not “at this point” but “always has been”
He used the reasoning of "don't know if the feedbacks are from the real fans" is just dumb... That's just a sign of incompetence developer if you can't differentiate those.
@@snokariwalkure4076There's something wrong if they have so active social media and collect surveys all the time, but chance happens only after some dude complains in elevator.
Dude they need to look at Kuro devs when WuWa first release and how everyone responded to know what anxiety and fear is, but the devs still give their best to fix the game in short amount of time and look at the game now, its amazing.
wuwa just needs to release longer content to fill the void in the last half of every patch. I really liked depth of illusive realm and if they expand on that with more levels and variations it would be great. honestly with how well they've received all their feedback I have no doubt they will do something about it.
I'd honestly love them to have some kind of World Boss walking around the overworld that resets every week that gives you a crystal solvent and 5-10 random echoes for killing it.
It'd also be cool if the boss got stronger for every player in Co-Op, and gave out more echoes if you're in a team.
It does seem like they're planning to add more permanent game modes in the future, the first year of any gacha game is always the roughest, so I'm sure they will get there in time.
@@saintontas I'd be happy with anything as long as it makes me want to keep playing the game. and not in a similar way as genshin that makes you have to play daily for months to have a decent team. I mean like really make me WANT to play the game. I already want to keep playing but everyday I spend my waveplates and get left with emptiness
Why don't you tried request. I think kuro will hear you.
Man i love depth of illusive realm hands down one of the best endgame modes ever
i wasn't the biggest genshin player but i feel bad for my friends who really spent so much time and sometimes even money on hoyo games in general only to not get rewarded and i honestly thought that an honest conpetitor like wuwa would make genshin better or atleast give hoyo an incentive to actually do some improvements on the game but nothing really came out of it
i dont spend too much time on gacha games and quite frugal with money just on gacha games but since yinlin launched ive bought the bp and monthly pass and honestly if that money is going to devs that constantly use feedback to improve their game ill happily buy bp and monthly pass to support them as long as im playing
Im thinking of spending money just for shorekeeper. Her demo looks stunning plus im excited to know more about her and rover
it’s crazy how the genshin devs are the only ones that take years to add changes wuwa and the other hoyo dev teams add sometimes without even asking
i think its bc the genshin devs already got the attention of so many players when covid hit and everyone got addicted. there were no compitition for genshin so the devs became lazy overtime and ignore the players bc they knew that they will still play the game regardless the problems bc they became addicted. heck even i became addicted but moved to wuwa😂
Well yeah that time only genshin exist
@@ayenmontefalcon6395 you drop this 👑
"... Da Wei crying in the stage, LAMENTing..."
KKKK so this is what LAMENT thing all about kekw
Oh you talking about shore end trailer Shorekepper say lament ?😂😂😂😂
Just watch, "that game" may implement artifact loadout in a few after years and their players would say "it was planned long ago".
yh even though people been asking for loadouts ever since 1.0 and just now adding it. when i said that genshin added the new endgame content bc of wuwa people kept saying "it was planned long ago" like wtf😂
Kuro needs artefact load-outs as well tbh, i mean we all swap out sets.
@@robertlaidlaw4592 i mean in they will probobly implement it bc they have loadout in pgr. but its kind of easy to farm the sets that u want so i never felt like swaping echo
@@robertlaidlaw4592 well, about that. They released information that they're working on implementing that so expect it to be in 1.4
@@robertlaidlaw4592 they already said it that they'll add this in the current note/announcement they've release but expect it in 1.4 so it's nice actually that they'll implement it soon enough
Genshin is like an abusive relationship
The players keep coming back no matter how bad it gets
That's usually what ex's are, you have invested your time, money and effort. When you return, it is the same garbage that make you want to leave.
Genshin = Toxic ex
i feel like people that play alot of gacha game will just go play the games 5 mins each and still have have fun no matter how bad the devs listens. i do this bc one gacha game isnt enough 😂
They are just a weakling with a weak mind that trapped in sunk cost fallacy.
I wish the best for WUWA I still love it and I hope there good doings pay off
@@wyattkuhn1 with the devs being able to communicate with the players with ease, theres nothing to worry abt expect for their marketing bc i have not seen a single add for wuwa but just alot genshin adds its hilarious 😂
I deadass asked in the last player feedback survey to add co op holograms and some other things n what do yuh know, they got it wooo
The GI team had the chance to make a great change for everyone by making exploration rewards permanent in the latest dev notes, but of course, they had to turn it into fomo and they are adding YET ANOTHER filter to artifacts instead of actually making artifact loadouts. At this point they have graduated as one of the most shady dev team just shy away of maplestory devs.
And there goes Dawei shedding crocodile tears by shitting in more than eight years of feedback from HI3 till today when every piece of needed qol for genshin is applied to every other game
Ya was gonna say like HSR and ZZZ are getting the qol updates that Genshin never gets.
yeah the fact the exploration rewards, or the extra primos for doing archon quests, are locked to the first 2 weeks of the patch they're released in, is a huge joke and a big middle finger to the players, lmao
I've been playing Genshin since 1.1 and got tired of being treated like garbage with the non-existent rewards and the lack of the dev team caring. When I dropped Genshin and went to HSR, it was like not realising you were in a toxic relationship until you got out of it and got with someone who treats you like a person. When I started playing WuWa, it made me realise even more how toxic and uncaring Genshin is. WuWa has done in several months what Genshin couldn’t in 4 years.
And you even missed genshin's best patch.
If you played since launch, you would've seen the issues, the backlash and the fact they actually listened to feedback and implemented lots of QoL with 1.1.
That has been the last time they did that.
After experimenting with a dry patch with 1.2 and a major map expansion in 1.3, they set their sight on the future roadmap.
That was releasing dry patches intertwined with some meaningless expansion being it a new map or new archon quest, and rinse and repeat, without ever going hard on QoL (only ones implemented from time to time were not what players were asking, paired with made up fake FAQ where they showcased 'see this is what players wanted we're giving it to you') listening to feedback or anything else.
@@charginginprogresss Maybe chill with your tone? That sounds hella condescending towards this person who didn’t ask.
@@chocobocloudstrife5697 Maybe chill your tone? This sounds hella condescending towards me who didn't ask
0:37 HES SO HOT! Please tell me I'm not the only one absolutely smitten
AMEN 🙏🏻
GIVE US 5* DEV HUSBANDO
dude is actually looking cool
No homo btw.
Man, I'm not gay but he IS SO HOT 😭😭
@@H1manshu-愛you are indeed gay
Leave Genshin and come to Wuwa like how you leave and forgot about your ex and start a new live 💀, leave red flag and come to green flag one. Genshin is the one like I am rich but I don't care about you and Wuwa is the one I am poor but I will take care you as much as possible 💀. Real fact when me play both is
Genshin: the game play me ( play in pain of gacha and no enjoy of every patchs come)
Wuwa: me play the game ( wait every new patchs and enjoy every patchs )
The only problem about wuthering waves is the optimization problem for other mobile devices, both low ranges and midranges and sometimes fps drop and hicups also occur to high end devices too. Unreal Engine is not really meant for mobile devices interms of optimization that’s why a lot of devs stick to old classic engine which is unity. The game itself as a gacha game is overall 10/10 eventho they dont add bunch of qol its still freaking good but the mobile community is suffering about optimization, pc players never encounter it. I often watch unboxing and showcasing video for newest devices and when they showcase the device for gaming and wuthering waves is in the list and they play it, you can see that even a latest device, new and fresh is experiencing stuttering, hicups and fps drop so at this point its not about devices anymore, its about the game itself. Right now the players of wuthering waves is pc player because the mobile player is slowly drifting away, you see the update 1.0 and 1.1 hype? Those hype is because of mobile community making videos in tiktok but as you can see right now, they dont make videos about wuwa anymore. Interms of active player, mobile is more superior than pc player so i hope they keep optimizing the game because if its continue then wuwa will only have pc player and i know pc player is not die hard fan player unlike mobile player.
Anyone who uses tiktik is bad
kuro just sets the bar higher with them caring more for player experience than anything else. to more with kuro blessing us with goodies and their devs healthy wellbeing
PEAK
the QOL improvement is crazy, I don't think I ever experience something like this from the Game's Dev.
Recently downloaded wuwa on a whim.
My previous experience in gacha games is like 3 30-minute sessions of genshin.
I've played probably a dozen hours of wuwa already and plan to keep playing more.
Even in the introduction of genshin, the gameplay is stifling. Idk what the dev situation looks like for either game but wuwa at its core feels better to me, personally.
Also the good thing about wuwa whenever i tried to login it's not bright like genshin 🤣
Very convenient not disrespecting my eyes
Dude they mention they are working on "Echo info display upon absorption," " "portable synthesizer," and Echo Presets. Legit been hearing these complains fairly consistently and Kuro just straight up telling us: "Yes we heard u, and we are working on it"
Such a W dev.
Really make me feel like I have to not worry about the future of the game too much.
and yes I did wait for genshin to implement Artifact preset for 3 years......pretty sure it still doesn't has one @@
If they manage the echo preset/loadouts, thats insane. I've played so many gachas and mmos and most can't figure it out or its a buggy mess of a system.
@@Vezentabro if they add a echo laod out presets, than that will be the final nail on genshin's devs coffin bc that is the best " GENSHIN COULD NEVER" moment😂
Damn dude. Tell us how you really feel.
I don't disagree, by the way. I was kinda hype for Natlan at first, if only because I _finally_ could see what Iansan was like. But said hype hit a brick wall as soon as I saw the teaser. I hadn't felt that crestfallen since Dehya's release. And the region itself just feels so... meh to me. To slightly misquote HexJuice, it's just more of the same and with some half-assed "improvements" to boot. Even WL9 feels like a joke (to be fair, my overworld team is a Curry setup which is also one of the most powerful archetypes in the game, but still)!
So yeah, once Iansan drops, my interest in Genshin is pretty much done and I'm gonna turn into that "Friendship ended" meme. WuWa has far more things I like and it hasn't even been out for 6 months.
But still no Australian VA's
I WANNA SEE AIMEE SMITH DO VOICE ACTING FOR WUWA
If we can have an Irish pharmacist in Wuwa, we too can have an Aussie VA soon enough. Trust in Kuro, brother.
I hope they hire the same VA agency as Reverse 1999 and do what they're doing depending on the character and region. British English as the default and english with an accent for the other nations.
For instance, in the future region of Rinascita, they better hire VAs with an "Italian" English accent like Pavia in Reverse 1999. This move would be more immersive.
@@hijodelsoldeorienteI mean we have Regules (Ik I didn't spell it right, I tried) as Encore and Sotheby's VA as that spider lily antagonist so it might actually be the same agency as R1999
WuWa ruined genshin and HSR to me ... cant play those games without thinking why am i wasting time in them if i can just play WuWa.
Wuwa changed my view on genshin I uninstalled it after realizing how boring genshin is compared
Da Wei crying for joy as he knows all the ways he'll be getting more money out Genshin players.
Finally someone talking truth about Hoyoverse！Good one！
Nobody is rdy for how good WuWa will get after an year of implementing feedback. From patch to patch it is getting so much better. Go KURO!
The only reason I'm still playing Genshin is because I'm modding it. Meanwhile I go and play WuWa and like everything feels so nice minus the frame rates because my 970 is huffin and puffin 😂
I literally sent a feedback message asking for them to put a symbol as to what sonata set an echo is when you get it, so that you don’t have to go back into your character page search for it and then see if it’s what you need.
So thank me. Hehe jk
They went up and beyond what I asks for XD I just asked for an element symbol in the corner for whatever sonata it is.
They understood the assignment and gave us the stats too woooooo☺️
Nah all joke aside this video is amazing and he actually broke it down very well the only way to really enjoy genshin is with a credit card on the other hand Wuthering waves is not a Credit card game and they actually work with u
When i saw the artifact transmuter thing, i knew it was gonna be a scam, it sound to good to be true, and my exact words were "the elixer bottle will either be a paid thing or hard to get it" welp i was correct
My "craftable artifact" rolled to complete $#!t... When they said craftable I didn't think I'd be subjected to the same dog water RNG I've been dealing with for the past three years... I actually felt defeated because of how bad the rolls were. The best part is that I have to wait two months to attempt it again.
dont worry bro you can try it out again in half a year... lmfao
I'll just sit here with my 6 stack of Morphable echoes waiting for the next DPS to release.
@@saintontas meanwhile it's only been a few months of wuwa and I have four characters built with God tier endgame stats that i can't seem to get in genshin... Like WTF!?
@@Kryo_GTS tbf, the echo system not being locked in farming domains (we have Tacet Fields but it's optional) is a huge W. I have almost every unit on the roster built enough to even clear the ToA with 3-4 teams (because I don't wanna stick to 2 main teams). I am AR53 in Genshin yet barely any character I have had a full set because the god damn domain thing always give me back the wrong golden artifact.
I just crafted a goblet yesterday, 4 starting substats just for all rolls to end up on anything but crit rate/dmg lol
I also bet the craftable artifact can start with 3 stats.
Hoyo gave saintontas the ingredients to cook their game to the ground 😂
I'm fine with whatever Wuthering Waves has on launch. And them keeps improving on every update with QoL and free stuffs. I am so grateful I'm playing this game. And yet haters told me they have ulterior motives. I was raised by my parents with "there's no such thing as free lunch" so I don't care for their ulterior motives, they deserve to be paid anyway. All of these free stuffs I'm getting feels like I'm being pampered lol.
sometime i have a thought comeback genshin. But now, your video make me right choice, don't comeback. Tks
i would try it regardless of what people say, i hate the devs but i would still try the game and what it offers. if i were u i would do the story and dip 😂
@@ayenmontefalcon6395 i play HSR and Wu Wa, that enough for me.
Kuro has gotta be the most likable company
I'm actually so glad I started playing WuWa again. Recently got a new phone and gave it a try again. I was unable to play on my old phone, simply because it lagged a lot on there, which ruined the fun. Now it's running smoothly, got an C2R1 Xiangli Yao and am Happy (didn't spend a penny lmao only like a hundred wishes on all together)
I'd just like to let you know. It did so on my phone as well but after all the optimization patches they've done recently-
If your phone can barely run (but run it nonetheless) and lags so much, it should be a lot more playable now. It was actually a lot smoother than I was expecting it to be but I'd rather play on pc for obvious reasons.
Hope your new phone lets you enjoy the game a whole lot more.
They did great job with optimization. Previously I had slide show during battles, now it's smooth and not worse from Genshin on my phone.
Wuwu is still in early stage , imagine the future when it reach 4.0 or 5.0 update
RIP my device ig. Haha. I'm ok with it tho. Welp, keep giving them feedback as honest as possible, so they keep improving. To me, till now, wuwa story is suck. But well, i can side that with other content they gave. So yeah. Thanks for your feedback ig. Have fun.
Sometimes I wish we were in an alternate timeline where it was actually Wuwa managing to launch during covid, and genshin missed the chance, released last july and flopped hard because how trash it was compared to 4 years old wuwa.
Genshin anniversary: Da Wei cries
PGR anniversary: Solon hyping up the crowd by saying "PGR hasnt reach it's peak yet"
Having an hour of Genshin Livestream and I walk away wondering what even got added....
Having 25min of WuWa livestream and 17min of it was just Quality of Life improvements. And still more from Notices afterwards.
People still laughing when I say WuWa made Genshin improve themselves. WuWa had better graphics. 3 months later? "Genshin announces graphics to be improved in version 5.0" WuWa had a Selector and a free limited character. "It's cause Star Rail had it first, that's why they added it to Genshin" sure, then why not add it earlier? Where's the limited character giveaway? Keep crying.
damn it genshin Qol looks like a joke compared to wuwa..... hoyo looks so pathetic with this...... and Wuwa keep improving in character design
finally a dev team that doesnt want just money but wants a fun game for everyone to enjoy
I KNOW RIGHT, THAT REALLY TOUCH MY HEART.
It's sad that Hoyo managed to "grow" a group of fanatical players who will do anything for their god
Hoyo can spit on them, and they will say that the great Hoyo brought rain
They literally hate Kuro and WuWa just because genshin is starting to look bad in comparison
I love all the updates. They need to improve their battle music. Also the background music is way too melancholy.
There's actual a very popular composer from other gacha titles who is currently working on WuWa. Kuro's heard the feedback here as well.
@@saintontasawesome! I have heard someone else say this as well and I cant wait! The music already sounds great but it is not something I expect to hear 90 percent of the time from an action rpg game. I believe they should take a little inspiration from Tales of Arise for when it comes to music
yeah, the "battle" music puts me to sleep
@@TechyCatzhis name is Adam Gubman! He’s very popular and well known!!
@@f.b.l.9813i feel like kuro just needs to add music like they did on pgr bc the music for pgr is a banger
The moment withering waves came out, i dropped genshin, haven't considered returning get at all
Genshin 5.1 QoLs are also trash - Skip Button on Abyss but not on their Never-Ending Dialogues
The fact that genshin hasnt added a skip button for the dialogue especially for the daily commissions we've already done is just shows how much the genshin devs disrespect the players' time.
Yall dont know how much of a lifesaver the skip button in wuwa is for me eapecially since college has made my life busy af, and wuwa devs respect how much time i can spend on the game
To tell you an example of how much Kuro is winning us over
I'm stingy as fuck when it comes to gacha games and 100% refuse to spend a penny on a gacha game just because I think it's a gambling scheme been playing genshin since 2020 and never broke being a f2p, on the other hand, I've been playing WuWa for 4 months on the 2ed month I broke the f2p stats just cuz I don't feel like I'm not being manipulated to spend on the game and to support them cuz honestly, I think they deserve the support not just because they are generous but also because they listen not ignoring us like hoyo always do and they only started to listen just because they finally had the competition honestly I feel so stupid wasting 4 years on genshin after playing WuWa and now I can't get out after the investment I've put into that game (also the story is good XD)
I played genshin during 4.1 - 4.2 and dropped after 2 months because of how boring it was. Combat, exploration, everything was super slow and boring.
I've been playing WuWa every single day since launch and I still spend about 3-4 hours everyday killing mobs.
If that doesn't scream which game is better, I don't know what does.
Today, Kuro acknowledged and begun working on echo loadouts.
Jenshin will probably follow in 6.0 and overhype it, like they were listening all along. 🤡
Kuro has done more QoL changes in just three patches than Genshin done in 4 years.
Also kuro is adding a summary for skip button which is such welcome and highlight of QoL for me. I just couldn't bear BS dialoges of Genshin.
Genshin Community: We need this and that!
Genshin Devs : Fuck you!
and they all call me a madman for playing and spend money to WWs while call it a ded game
motherfker, i play a game that enjoyable to me and dev even listen to usefull feedback that we all given to them and they did work on it.
Whenever GI dev started crying I somehow knew 5.0 is going to be an utter disaster
When you make updates people have been asking for years so you could get players back but fumble it very badly.
Yeah, you outright don't care.
Version 5.0 was their chance, their one chance to finally do everything players have been asking for. It could've been their biggest one yet but Hoyo doesn't care about Genshin anymore.
Next thing you know, they shut the game down because people can't take anymore and stop spending money on them.
Edit: Yeah, the last part may have been too harsh but you get what I'm trying to say. The game devs and the company don't care anymore.
Fair but tbh them shutting down because players stopped spending is like nearly impossible if not. Their loyal fans are too invested in the game already and couldn't even establish a proper boycott. I even read some mental gymnastics before like "devs wouldn't really have to listen in Genshin because the things being complained in wuwa aren't experienced in Genshin" 😂. As long as the "better than nothing" mindset still stands, Genshin changing it's ways is nowhere near.
That artifact system of choosing main stat and substat is CRAZY TRASH. They could've given it at least 1 chance every patch but no, they chose to give it one potion every few patches. Lmao
oh no... genshin community might attack this video because of the main points being discussed and salvage their image then attack WuWa and the WuWa community again for being a copy paste and bad mouthing their game...
hayss... I am expecting worse complaints again...😅
they cant really say that wuwa copied genshin when genshin copied breath of the wild so wuwa should be breath of the wild copy 😂
@@ayenmontefalcon6395 well many know the truth but its not that they cant say it.. thats one of the arguments why war started between genshin and wuwa community.. there are many things they claim and so on.. if they did not lit up and spread fire things would not be worse..
Wait till WuWa makes a sword/pistol wielder and the other side of the fence will say it's a Clorinde copy.
I hope this happens cause if they want to say sword/pistol is a copy well guess what PGR already has one but it won't count because he has a Boothill skin copy from HSR.
They'll just go on and on then twist and look for a loophole just to win a dumb argument and look smart
@@feralchimaera99Funnily enough, there was a leaked concept art of character using a gun and a sword made of glass. Weather it's old concept art or not they have considered it
That's why even though i spent much of time in genshin. I'm now more invest in the KURO games due to their flexibility of players needs and understanding.
I don't know what is the issue with Genshin in particular. It is a toxic positive community with the most fence sitting content creators i have seen who won't say anything negative about the game until some controversy happens and the entire community is up in flames. I personally think this toxic positive environment will never be resolved as Hoyoverse has all the power through their creator program where they can pick and choose their favourable content creators and blacklist creator who are negative or controversial.
Genuinely Genshin impact feels like a lost cause and it is better if you don't expect anything.
If you're talking the crazed zombie social media people then yeah, they are a big chunk of the issue. Personally I like genshin more than Wuwa. Wuwa bores me heavily where as I enjoy playing the characters due to them being unique both in and out of battle unlike Wuwa's characters.
But to say that Genshin fans is the only one with issues is wrong. Wuwa's are too with how they all clamore wuwa as "the best there ever is and Genshit is terrible. Anyone who likes it is always wrong and in an abusive relationship." Like jfc. Genshin isn't perfect but at least the characters are fun to use. All I do on wuwa is Run and treat everything as an overglorified sidewalk.. not to mention 60 resin for materials? The rewards don't reflect the cost at all! And the characters do NOTHING outside of combat.. except for aalto! And now shorekeeper is going to give Rover a special buff!? Why only him?! Why not an element such as spectro/glacial too? Why does Rover get special buffs from echos and characters and not others on top of that? If shorekeeper wasn't a limited unit it wouldn't be annoying but she is.
@@nobody-xh6ii I don't really care if you like Genshin or any other games and find WUWA boring as hell.
Genshin players are like flies-they'll keep returning to trash, even when you offer them something better. Hoyofanatics will eat anything trash from Hoyo.
bro really spent 5 minutes of a 9 minute video ranting about genshin rather than talking about wuwa. least obvious rage bait ever.
Based on my observation, I don't understand why most of Kuro's fanbase focuses on comparison to other games. Why not just focus on their favorite game and appreciate it? The superiority complex is real. I quit WuWa in 1.0 because it didn't connect for me. I'm rooting for their success but I hate their fanbase. Too much coping by comparing.
@@lesoleil194 yes its like two things can be good at the same time?? it certainly doesnt make it better if the only way you can praise wuwa is by talking shit about other games
Agreed but I want to give you two additional context for this one.
The gacha tribalism is about to reach an all time high and multiple factors within (youhu banner) and outside the community will make the tribalism seem impposible to avoid.
I just hope you too can have a wonderful day having fun.Because happiness is short lived so why not enjoy it while you can.
Ive loved genshin for so long but wuthering waves and kuro make me feel so much more respected and appreciated. Time after time on genshin I have been incredibly disappointed and frustrated with the state of the game. It should not feel that way.
Never went back to Genshin after playing WuWa. W game W Kuro devs
Genshin Could Never is still a thing. I guess the name itself says it will always be a thing.
Even after the tears of a shitty CEO , they still longed for money more than forgiveness and lied about almost 90% of the content in 5.0 . Truly absurd greed
This channel has to be the #1 Genshin hater and #1 WuWa glazer, oil up buddy 💀
@@hyshi18 the irony of a hoyoshil to say that 💀. This channel told nothing but facts every video. Every criticism about genshin is warranted because he literally didn't make anything up. You just choose to be blind
@@mrflakey6163 Whoa, easy there pal. No need to go all aggro on me, I never even said he was lying. Maybe it's time to take a break from LoL before the toxicity starts spilling into real life, yeah?
@@hyshi18 well sorry about that. Your tone seemed aggressive for me since it's not really glazing it's just stating facts. Glazing is used when people over defend something.
Also I quit league like a year ago
@@mrflakey6163 Amen brother, good for you.
everyone likes seeing a happy ending
I swear to God, wallahi, you speak nothing but facts
This is why I firmly belive that some Genshin players are either under pure *Stockholm syndrome* or just completely delulu.
One major sign of those type of Genshin fans is that when you spit hard facts that WuWa is objectively much better than Genshin and that Kuro handles WuWa way better than Hoyo is to Genshin, you see their defense mechanism trigger by going to the most subjective excuses they can like "Genshin's story is better" or "I like Genshin's world and character design that's why it is better" or " I don't like WuWa therefore Genshin is better.
They forget that their opinions and preferences doesn't necessarily translate to having their prefered game and devs better.
Good ol' Sunk Cost Fallacy, my friend.
U forgot the revenue they always use that
This video is the most sweetest curses to genshin ever made. Comparing a real for the players dev to a cunning money hungry corporate. The crocotears doesn't fool anybody. They wipe it with money as tissue before laughing in the mirror.
Even the ZZZ dev video was gaslighting us about the tvs by saying "wow this is something that i as a player have always wanted" like???? People including myself have had an issue with the tvs since the first cbt and they say that kind of crap...
Snowpeak devs are also really good too. Every patch has been a banger with lots of improvements made.
Also to add further to the ZZZ stuff, they have been doing a lot of qol but the gaslighting is still the hoyo classic and it's just disgusting.
I've seen many people in the zzz leaks sub sa they like TV mode, I honestly dislike it by its dumb to think everyone else shares your opinion
@w4laa what part did I day everyone?
@@ParafrostV "gaslighting us" it's not gaslighting if there's people watching agreeing with them
this is good video explaining everything different between both games
This video is nothing but an attack on Hoyoverse... And i love it ❤
ik bro i love it too but if genshin just adds the sht that everyone asks than there would be no reason to hate on the devs.😂
All of these differences in term of caring for there player base will hit Genshin Impact in the long run I know