Jack saying this covers the ISTp and INFj is confusing to anyone watching this from mbti. And the J and P is inaccurate and does not translate uniformly from Socionics into mbti. I think it is best to say LSI and EII here. And then say "who prefer SiFi." And when helping people unfamiliar with Socionics to just write: LII (TiN) EII (FiN) SEE (SeF) ESE (FeS) SLI (SiT*) etc. * I think the 4 introverted sensors merit an * because Isabelle Myers got the J and P for the introverted sensors wrong. In her head what later became Keirsey's Guardians got a nice J. And what became Keirsey's Artisans got a nice P. When she should have recognized that ALL types that prefer manual labor (Guardians) lead with Si/Se. And introverted Artisans are perceivers. And introverted Guardians judgers. No more J and P stuff that should never have been introduced to mbti in the first place. Just the brackets with the functions for clarification.
You nailed it.
love how you explain things, thank you!
Jack saying this covers the ISTp and INFj is confusing to anyone watching this from mbti. And the J and P is inaccurate and does not translate uniformly from Socionics into mbti. I think it is best to say LSI and EII here. And then say "who prefer SiFi." And when helping people unfamiliar with Socionics to just write:
LII (TiN)
EII (FiN)
SEE (SeF)
ESE (FeS)
SLI (SiT*)
etc.
* I think the 4 introverted sensors merit an * because Isabelle Myers got the J and P for the introverted sensors wrong. In her head what later became Keirsey's Guardians got a nice J. And what became Keirsey's Artisans got a nice P. When she should have recognized that ALL types that prefer manual labor (Guardians) lead with Si/Se. And introverted Artisans are perceivers. And introverted Guardians judgers.
No more J and P stuff that should never have been introduced to mbti in the first place. Just the brackets with the functions for clarification.
It helped!
Does this coincide with socipnics still since you're using mbti pairing 1 & 3
Yes, Socionics is the pinnacle of Jungian typology.
Does the position of the two functions change how the themes manifest?
I wouldn't say so. They are both pushed by both types.
I love dealing with socionics. I also love watching you, but I have a hard time understanding some concepts. Could you please add Turkish subtitles?
I may have to invite someone to do the translations.