Beretta would call the system of no extractor a "Jet fire" . The Beretta 950 25 ACP, Beretta 21 series in 22 & 25 ACP and the Beretta Tom Cat are also designs like this one without an extractor. The centerfire cartridges are generally are not ammo sensitive in the Beretta line however the rimfires can be picky about what they are relaible with
Glad you are doing a review on this gun. I see gun makers putting out guns that are simply easier to use like S&W Shield EZ, Ruger’s Security 380, Beretta’s 80X and now the Girsan MC 14T, and manufacturer’s marketing often sheepishly says it’s for old folks, women or people with “weak hands.” Honestly, I fail to see why in the gun industry, making a gun that’s easier to use automatically relegates it to what mainstream gun folks consider some inconsequential class of customers. The MC 14T and other competing guns aren’t marketed to just plain regular gun folks who might like a gun that’s easier to handle, manipulate and shoot accurately (in .380ACP). I think that’s a mistake. These are good gun design, fun and effective in anyone’s hands.
Great Video Explaining the function of the MC14T! I would love to see and handle one of the original tilt up barrel model 86 Berretta's. They are the rarest of All the series 80 pistols. The original model 86 Tilt barrel 380's from Berretta were single stack 8 round and came with 2 mags a brush, manual, and plastic case. I have seen pictures and listings as high as $1599.00 for an original 86 here in Missouri. Unfortunately the closest thing to the Girsan MC14T I could find, is the new 13 round Non Tilt up barrel , Berretta Cheetah for $769.00 I bought the tilt up barrel Girsan MC14T in FDE for half of that. I think Girsan really tries to make their new reproduction guns as close to exact duplicates of the original as possible. Apart from updating this to a doublestack 13 round its very, very, close to a original 86. Girsan and Tisas (both Turkish gun makers) are similar in making almost exact copies of the old original all metal guns from yesteryear for usually half the cost. The Tisas 1911A1 Army model is so close to an exact WWII pistol its crazy. BTW, I saw another U tubers Girsan MC14T shooting video where he showed the Berretta (Mec Gar)13 round mags fit and function perfect in these Girsan MC14T's. Girsan has their mags on backorder and the gun only ships with 1 mag! I ordered 3 extra Berretta 80X mags with mine for under $30.00 ea. (Both are made by Italy's Mec Gar) I am not a fan of Turkey at all myself, but this pistol had so many special things going for it, I had to get one. Its either that or spend $800.00 for a Beretta Cheetah which is Not a Tilt up barrel, and not as interesting to me. Its my 1st DA/SA pistol so If I get used to the manual of arms I may get a Berretta 92 someday. Thanks for yours and others video review that helped me make up my mind to order one.
@@---tx9xx I saw another U tuber at the shooting range using them in a new Girsan and they functioned perfectly.. I just ordered 3 for a Beretta 80x for my new Girsan so I will confirm soon. Italy's Mec Gar makes the mags for the Beretta 80x and Girsan MC14T so I would be amazed at this point if they didnt.
wow it's so much bigger then I thought it would be. I need to find one of those. I really wanna mess with it I have a small taurus spectrum kinda of disklike it thinking about trading it in for one of those or just something else.
I'd love to see how these compare to the Tisas Fatih 13 and other Cheetah clones. I'm not entirely sure why Girsan chose to put a rail on this gun either. It spoils the looks a bit.
Have you seen the original 86 Berretta? Its the rarest of all the 8 series 80 Beretta's Its very strange looking with all the extra bottom metal to hold the hinge pin. Its an 8 round single stack which sucks in todays world of carry or defensive pistols. Without the rail it looks much worse imho. I think the Girsan looks much better by using that metal to make the rail. But for some reason Girsan left the old school trigger housing shape. Not a very good shape for gloved hands I am sure. I wish it was shaped more like the 92FS shown in this video next to it but you cant have everything. Girsan seems to try to stick to the original as much as possible. I think they knew it needed to be updated to the 13 round as Berretta just did with the series 80X. Otherwise Girsan/EAA did a fantastic job of copying the extremely rare Beretta 86. The only changes I see are the 13 round doublestack mag update, and the rail update. It even uses the same mags as the other Beretta 380 doublestacks and they did it all at half the price of a Berretta or less. I am not a fan of Turkey but this is such a special and rare gun from Beretta, I had to buy one. I have never seen a original 86 and doubt I ever will, much less be able to own one. The last one here in MO was pretty pristine and on auction for $1599.00 with its plastic case, 2 - 8 round mags, and its manual. Ill take the 2 tone new Girsan MC14T for under $400.00 and enjoy it and shoot the heck out of it.
No extractor is a no go for me with a semi auto handgun. If that barrel starts to foul I can see the rounds maybe needing a little help being extracted. This will be very interesting when you run a couple hundred rounds.
Unfortunately no one has invented a way to clean a gun barrel. Maybe some day a genius will come along and solve this issue. But seriously, if a person is at the range puts hundreds of rounds of 380 through their gun in one range session then yea they could have an issue. But if a person then goes home and doesn't clean their gun and carries it for personal protection then that person is an idiot. Also, who is going to the range and putting hundreds of rounds of 380 through their gun in one range session? Your concern is a one that would only apply to someone wildly irresponsible in their gun cleaning and care habits.
There isn't much of one. Unlike the Beretta Model 20/21, you have to remove the barrel to remove the slide. Beretta didn't encourage that with the 86 and I doubt Girsan advises it with this gun.
Kind of super cool, but I can bet you that forward holding pin will shear in time. Not because of poor manufacture but because of poor usage. The bobcat has a short lever arm, the T14 is what double?
It's a blowback design. You can't make a blowback design in 30 Super without adding a locking mechanism or a substantial amount of weight to the slide. It would be a completely different gun at that point. There's this one problem that you have to contend with when designing guns, it's called physics. Most people have a grade school level of knowledge when it comes to physics so they don't understand that you can't just take a design and adapt it to any caliber without changes.
Nice to see more being done with 380's.
More 380’s! Thank you!!
Old design's coming back. I kind of like it.
Beretta would call the system of no extractor a "Jet fire" . The Beretta 950 25 ACP, Beretta 21 series in 22 & 25 ACP and the Beretta Tom Cat are also designs like this one without an extractor. The centerfire cartridges are generally are not ammo sensitive in the Beretta line however the rimfires can be picky about what they are relaible with
Looking forward to the full review. Great job.
Glad you are doing a review on this gun. I see gun makers putting out guns that are simply easier to use like S&W Shield EZ, Ruger’s Security 380, Beretta’s 80X and now the Girsan MC 14T, and manufacturer’s marketing often sheepishly says it’s for old folks, women or people with “weak hands.”
Honestly, I fail to see why in the gun industry, making a gun that’s easier to use automatically relegates it to what mainstream gun folks consider some inconsequential class of customers. The MC 14T and other competing guns aren’t marketed to just plain regular gun folks who might like a gun that’s easier to handle, manipulate and shoot accurately (in .380ACP). I think that’s a mistake. These are good gun design, fun and effective in anyone’s hands.
Right. For me, eliminating the need of a decocker is more important than an easy rack. They make me itch.
Easy functioning is good for everyone.
I'm old and have weak hands ..but bet I can make it go pow
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Well it's all about marketing lol and making money. 😂 just like MOST men wouldn't want a "hot pink" pistol or rifle 🤷♂️
@@blackticalmayhem8461 maybe bud light guy?
Looking forward to the full review, I reload and want a larger 380 for a range toy, my LCP max and Walther PPK are no fun to shoot a lot.
Definitely want to get this one
might be a good option for those not wanting to pay $800 for the new Beretta 80x. Although the 80x is a beautiful gun.
Yep, I'm that guy. I wanted the 80x, but when I saw this, I changed my mind. I would rather have this than pay 800 for the 80x.
Interesting the new Baretta Cheeta and the MC14t came out at the same time
I like.
Still wondering how it extract the the bullet very interesting
Great Video Explaining the function of the MC14T! I would love to see and handle one of the original tilt up barrel model 86 Berretta's. They are the rarest of All the series 80 pistols. The original model 86 Tilt barrel 380's from Berretta were single stack 8 round and came with 2 mags a brush, manual, and plastic case. I have seen pictures and listings as high as $1599.00 for an original 86 here in Missouri. Unfortunately the closest thing to the Girsan MC14T I could find, is the new 13 round Non Tilt up barrel , Berretta Cheetah for $769.00 I bought the tilt up barrel Girsan MC14T in FDE for half of that. I think Girsan really tries to make their new reproduction guns as close to exact duplicates of the original as possible. Apart from updating this to a doublestack 13 round its very, very, close to a original 86. Girsan and Tisas (both Turkish gun makers) are similar in making almost exact copies of the old original all metal guns from yesteryear for usually half the cost. The Tisas 1911A1 Army model is so close to an exact WWII pistol its crazy. BTW, I saw another U tubers Girsan MC14T shooting video where he showed the Berretta (Mec Gar)13 round mags fit and function perfect in these Girsan MC14T's. Girsan has their mags on backorder and the gun only ships with 1 mag! I ordered 3 extra Berretta 80X mags with mine for under $30.00 ea. (Both are made by Italy's Mec Gar) I am not a fan of Turkey at all myself, but this pistol had so many special things going for it, I had to get one. Its either that or spend $800.00 for a Beretta Cheetah which is Not a Tilt up barrel, and not as interesting to me. Its my 1st DA/SA pistol so If I get used to the manual of arms I may get a Berretta 92 someday. Thanks for yours and others video review that helped me make up my mind to order one.
I wonder if this would take the 13 round mecgar mags made for the Beretta 84.
Can anyone confirm
@@---tx9xx I saw another U tuber at the shooting range using them in a new Girsan and they functioned perfectly.. I just ordered 3 for a Beretta 80x for my new Girsan so I will confirm soon. Italy's Mec Gar makes the mags for the Beretta 80x and Girsan MC14T so I would be amazed at this point if they didnt.
Only on a wish list, for the Fde version as it’s my favorite color, but excited about this one.
If it shoots as good as it looks, it'll be a great gun.
wow it's so much bigger then I thought it would be. I need to find one of those. I really wanna mess with it I have a small taurus spectrum kinda of disklike it thinking about trading it in for one of those or just something else.
I'd love to see how these compare to the Tisas Fatih 13 and other Cheetah clones. I'm not entirely sure why Girsan chose to put a rail on this gun either. It spoils the looks a bit.
Have you seen the original 86 Berretta? Its the rarest of all the 8 series 80 Beretta's Its very strange looking with all the extra bottom metal to hold the hinge pin. Its an 8 round single stack which sucks in todays world of carry or defensive pistols. Without the rail it looks much worse imho. I think the Girsan looks much better by using that metal to make the rail. But for some reason Girsan left the old school trigger housing shape. Not a very good shape for gloved hands I am sure. I wish it was shaped more like the 92FS shown in this video next to it but you cant have everything. Girsan seems to try to stick to the original as much as possible. I think they knew it needed to be updated to the 13 round as Berretta just did with the series 80X. Otherwise Girsan/EAA did a fantastic job of copying the extremely rare Beretta 86. The only changes I see are the 13 round doublestack mag update, and the rail update. It even uses the same mags as the other Beretta 380 doublestacks and they did it all at half the price of a Berretta or less. I am not a fan of Turkey but this is such a special and rare gun from Beretta, I had to buy one. I have never seen a original 86 and doubt I ever will, much less be able to own one. The last one here in MO was pretty pristine and on auction for $1599.00 with its plastic case, 2 - 8 round mags, and its manual. Ill take the 2 tone new Girsan MC14T for under $400.00 and enjoy it and shoot the heck out of it.
No extractor is a no go for me with a semi auto handgun. If that barrel starts to foul I can see the rounds maybe needing a little help being extracted. This will be very interesting when you run a couple hundred rounds.
Unfortunately no one has invented a way to clean a gun barrel. Maybe some day a genius will come along and solve this issue. But seriously, if a person is at the range puts hundreds of rounds of 380 through their gun in one range session then yea they could have an issue. But if a person then goes home and doesn't clean their gun and carries it for personal protection then that person is an idiot. Also, who is going to the range and putting hundreds of rounds of 380 through their gun in one range session? Your concern is a one that would only apply to someone wildly irresponsible in their gun cleaning and care habits.
@Tim Robinson huh? Plenty of people shoot more than 100rds in their guns in .380 where did you get the idea that they didn't? 😂
Looking forward to the follow up video. Kinda want one of those.
RockOn.StayFree.
You can buy the mag with the round holder at the EAA store for $50!
This would be super cool if they made it in a size format similar to the Springfield hellcat Glock 43 more P3, 65
Looks like could be made at a Wilson factory when ya look quick. Good looking
I wanted to see the takedown procedure. Next time, I guess.
There isn't much of one. Unlike the Beretta Model 20/21, you have to remove the barrel to remove the slide. Beretta didn't encourage that with the 86 and I doubt Girsan advises it with this gun.
Kind of super cool, but I can bet you that forward holding pin will shear in time.
Not because of poor manufacture but because of poor usage.
The bobcat has a short lever arm, the T14 is what double?
I'd put a drop of oil on the front pin and a dab of grease on the rear locker.
Nice gun will your wife shoot this ? Like her opinion on shooting this pistol. Thanks 🙏👍🙏
Fudds new favorite I'm sure 🤭
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Not for me but dope concept for a granny with weak hand
If you reach the age of 70-or-so, you might rethink it being only for "granny." Arthritis can suddenly make itself known.
@@kenhoward3512 When someone is 70 they are granny age so he was correct.
@@timrobinson6573 😂😂😂
@@kenhoward3512 why do you sound personally attacked? 😂
Not my cup of tea but I’m sure someone would buy it.
It's nice, but I'm definitely NOT a fan of .380auto 😂
Now make it in .30 Super
It's a blowback design. You can't make a blowback design in 30 Super without adding a locking mechanism or a substantial amount of weight to the slide. It would be a completely different gun at that point. There's this one problem that you have to contend with when designing guns, it's called physics. Most people have a grade school level of knowledge when it comes to physics so they don't understand that you can't just take a design and adapt it to any caliber without changes.
@@timrobinson6573 Could have just said .30 has too much chamber pressure.
Too bad they don't make it in 9mm.