I think doom eternal has some plot holes and I'd like to see them fixed in future. Many stuff aren't explained in the game. For example, why was Olivia's statue built in nekravol if dark lord thinks she has failed him. ,,they promised me so much" she says and she ends up dead in mastermind's form, because she hasn't earned the "promises" This is most important thing for me because she had an important role in 2016 and now we only see her statue. Don't get me wrong, eternal is an awesome game. id managed to connect classic doom with the reboot. But some stuff are still unclear... As for Cultists, they should definitely return in DLC. And who knows? The next game might even be based on their future actions regarding the icon. I'm guessing nothing can move it from earth to hell or somewhere and the cultists would want to get their hands on it.
@@Just4Fun-Zocker Good question! I think they are part of the UAC still as the Cult broke away from the rest of the company, so Hayden led the rest of the UAC and ARC, while Ranak led the Cult.
at the end of the video where doomguy kills spider mastermind in doom 2016 (ruclips.net/video/usUH8vXS1j0/видео.html), when doomguy gets teleported, a deep voice can be heard saying something. the same voice was heard also when doomguy pulled the plug on vega, and turned out to be a huge lore plot. I searched all youtube and internet and found nothing. Can you please check that out ? this can be a first-of-its-kind video on this matter on whole youtube, can be a hit for the channel . Listen here when he gets teleported: (or on any video on youtube, or even in the game yourself) ruclips.net/video/usUH8vXS1j0/видео.html I kept writing this in the comments :D hope you see it now
I think the next Doom game will be about all the different parts of the Doom Universe being fused together within Hell, and the Slayer will have to reset the entire universe. Maybe since the Cult couldnt bring Hell on Earth, the Nameless One and the Hell Royalty will launch a full multiverse wide subjugation that transcends time and space. Maybe we’ll revisit reimagined locations from Doom 1 and 2 as those games had something similar happen with the Deimos Moon base I believe being absorbed into Hell.
I feel like they’ll have much more powerful demons in the next game and that well have some sort of revelation that leads us to reveal that the slayer has only seen the surface of what Hell has to offer in terms of the enemies, and that the order of Deag was only a catalyst for a minor demon scourge that had made it’s way to earth, enough on its own to consume the planet yet so small in comparison to true legions of Hell, these demonic scourges are capable of invading a planet easily but are nothing compared to gigantic armies and legions commanded by the six elder demon gods, all of whom are leagues more dangerous than anything the slayer has ever had to face, and most important of all, the nameless one is one of the only fiends that does not fear the slayer and takes pride in the slayer’s hatred and revels in the death of his own kind becoming stronger as the slayer kills more of the dark horde, (a new overarching name that could be given to the faction we all recognize to be the demons)
The different time passage would make sense since Samuel Haden was hell bent on telling us how the Icon of Sin would get stronger as time passed "the longer the icon of sin is on earth the stronger he becomes"...
So interesting if you read Paradise lost argent energy was said to be the material angels and demons are made of. This was written like 200 years ago as well.
I’m still curious what that demon was at the end of the Urdak mission that was submerged in water. Hoping that some of these loose ends and potential time jumps are future story threads id is creating now for future games.
I think it’s supposed to be one of the angels. I remember when breaking apart the angel’s armor in the boss fight and it looked identical to the one in the pool
dinosaurs interacting demonic creatures, demonic dinosaurs? interesting to say the least, hope they show us more, i'm also still wonder if the ruler that sets things right in the dlc is the father or a newly birthed khan maykr
Slightly unrelated but the giant statue of Olivia Pierce in Nekroval could be supporting evidence of a different rate of passing time in hell since the factory was built way before doom 2016 apparently took place
Multiple/parallel dimensions, being that the Slayer/Doomguy are one and the same, his "Earth" moved on after he saved it, ending up with the Sentinels a explained in Eternal. being in Hell, time would progress differently. It's another plane of existence where scientific laws do not apply, including physics and time.
Can you do a video on the massive creature in urdak? Right before you go and fight the khan maykr there is a massive creature in the water, has this already been solved or is it something we don’t know yet.
Why do you all ask about this guy? We certainly see it is a Khan Maykr or the Father (which I doubt cause I imagine the Father as some sort of an energy being, a transistent mind). AcidGlow already had a video on this creature, so it is luttle to no mystery now.
I always thought that was a portal like a hell portal as a part of the blood ritual that the hell priests were doing I figured as that priest was station there in the uac cultist base that portal that you think is a drill if looked from above like space it would make a demonic sign like the others you see from the doom fortess however I could be wrong it may every well be a drill
im wondering if you have considered that the people from argent d'nur very well could be the ancestors of humans seeing as how in the lore it states that they colonised earth millions of years ago...
What about the demonic voice speaking backwards just right when the doomguy finishes thew spider mastermind in doom 2016, and while gets teleported. The same voice was speaking in doom 20-16 when doomguy killed vega, and turned out to be a HUGE lore content . like this so that RipNTear will see this and check it out maybe :D awesome videos man!!
@@TheCyberfoxGod69 listen here, exactly when he gets teleported at the end of the video: deep voice , speaking something most likely on backwards. That voice is a file in the game that can be extracted and reversed, listened wirthout the background noise,. I AM SURE IT MEANS SOMETHING! just like it did when he killed vega. I would try to extract it but I don't know how ruclips.net/video/usUH8vXS1j0/видео.html
@@MikeRussell51 omg how did i never noticed that. its in fact multiple voices and i recognize Hayden from the beggining of the game the elevator scene voice clip is among those voices.
Nice video, mate. It does bring up certain issues that I've encounter while being stuck on the 3 level with hurt me plenty difficulty. I see something like this being plausible.
There's a colossal skeleton of a titan or possibly something even bigger in the doomhunter base. Shortly before the end of the level you go around a charged tower with cacodemons to get the last suit point in the level. Look out to the horizon from the outermost point of that tower to see it.
completely off topic but wraith have you heard the new song from slaughter to prevail : demolisher if you like shadow of intent you might like this one to
can you make a video on the samuel hayden having makyr origins (being samur makyr, the makyr angel/seraphim who stole the father), and also how VEGA says he is the father? i dont really understand the whole thing and reddit doesn't go into depth with it. also your videos concerning the lore of the doom universe are extremely clear and concise and I have no issues understanding and absorbing the information. thanks!
Samuel has his own agenda, separate from Urdak and Hell. He stole the mind of Father and used it to create VEGA, so Samuel can use VEGA and UAC to manipulate Hell into invading Earth, so Urdak's soul harvest gets involved too, so Doom Slayer has a reason to remove all key players (Urdak and Hell), helping Samuel advance his plans.
it sems that nobudy has talked about Deimos in the new Doom games we all that the first Demonic invasion strated on Deimos in Doom 1 and Hell obsorbed the moon sience than if this games are continuing the same than i hope we will visit this Lost location in the future DLCs
I've been working and editing a timeline for years that takes all of the DooM games new and old and puts them in one huge chronological timeline. I've got most of it written up, part of it in my head, and I really just need to make a video explaining it already. But when it comes to the Doom Hunters and other demon looking creatures in Earth's ancient past, I've got a possible headcanon. Obviously I take Doom3's story into consideration, where it talks about the ancient martians that fought the demons and then escaped to Earth in retreat and most likely ended up becoming us/humans. It could be that maybe some forms of demons followed through their portals to Earth and more fighting continued on Earth until they were all killed off. Maybe the initial martian teleport destination was at the pole. I'm still working on the details but I am trying to see if it would make sense for the ancient martians to have actually been Argentians. I have in my timeline, the Arachnids (Arachnotrons/Spider Masterminds) actually being an alien race who'd colonized with the martians on Mars and helped develop the tech for teleportation, and when Mars was attached the Arachnids choose to stay and fight them to the last 'man' eventually being corrupted and turned evil themselves. It's actually pretty funny how similar my timeline is to Doom Eternal's in that regard... humanoid people coming into contact with aliens that have huge brains and the aliens with huge brains become evil? Anyway just as I'm trying to work in having the Martians be Argentians, I'm also seeing if it could work having the Arachnids actually be Urdacians. Open to ideas.
Playstyle mostly like I used chainsaw only 2-3 times(last 3-4 missions) in my entire doom 2016 playthrough on ultraviolence I can conserve ammo in doom
Kinda sucks that it was just an awesome model that originally was supposed to be a final area but it didn't work. However they loved it so much they used as an art piece. Also it's probable that it was never discovered by humans until after the melting of the polar ice caps. If you noticed there's not alot of ice in the Arctic
You didn't explain shit. You just made a summary of what was already said in the codex. And me here thinking you made the connection between the UAC Cult and the New World Order&their particle at Switzerland.
What do you all think about the Cult making a return in the DLC or next game?
I would love to find out more about them like more of their backstory and how many supporters that have
I think doom eternal has some plot holes and I'd like to see them fixed in future.
Many stuff aren't explained in the game. For example, why was Olivia's statue built in nekravol if dark lord thinks she has failed him. ,,they promised me so much" she says and she ends up dead in mastermind's form, because she hasn't earned the "promises"
This is most important thing for me because she had an important role in 2016 and now we only see her statue.
Don't get me wrong, eternal is an awesome game. id managed to connect classic doom with the reboot. But some stuff are still unclear...
As for Cultists, they should definitely return in DLC. And who knows? The next game might even be based on their future actions regarding the icon. I'm guessing nothing can move it from earth to hell or somewhere and the cultists would want to get their hands on it.
I wonder if the UAC personnel you encounter at the beginning of Phobos is part of the cult or have they sided with the ARC.
@@Just4Fun-Zocker Good question! I think they are part of the UAC still as the Cult broke away from the rest of the company, so Hayden led the rest of the UAC and ARC, while Ranak led the Cult.
at the end of the video where doomguy kills spider mastermind in doom 2016 (ruclips.net/video/usUH8vXS1j0/видео.html), when doomguy gets teleported, a deep voice can be heard saying something. the same voice was heard also when doomguy pulled the plug on vega, and turned out to be a huge lore plot. I searched all youtube and internet and found nothing. Can you please check that out ? this can be a first-of-its-kind video on this matter on whole youtube, can be a hit for the channel .
Listen here when he gets teleported: (or on any video on youtube, or even in the game yourself) ruclips.net/video/usUH8vXS1j0/видео.html
I kept writing this in the comments :D hope you see it now
Argent energy gives you scoliosis
is actually kyphosis
“Your our favorite customer”~hell to Olivia Pierce
I think the next Doom game will be about all the different parts of the Doom Universe being fused together within Hell, and the Slayer will have to reset the entire universe. Maybe since the Cult couldnt bring Hell on Earth, the Nameless One and the Hell Royalty will launch a full multiverse wide subjugation that transcends time and space. Maybe we’ll revisit reimagined locations from Doom 1 and 2 as those games had something similar happen with the Deimos Moon base I believe being absorbed into Hell.
I feel like they’ll have much more powerful demons in the next game and that well have some sort of revelation that leads us to reveal that the slayer has only seen the surface of what Hell has to offer in terms of the enemies, and that the order of Deag was only a catalyst for a minor demon scourge that had made it’s way to earth, enough on its own to consume the planet yet so small in comparison to true legions of Hell, these demonic scourges are capable of invading a planet easily but are nothing compared to gigantic armies and legions commanded by the six elder demon gods, all of whom are leagues more dangerous than anything the slayer has ever had to face, and most important of all, the nameless one is one of the only fiends that does not fear the slayer and takes pride in the slayer’s hatred and revels in the death of his own kind becoming stronger as the slayer kills more of the dark horde, (a new overarching name that could be given to the faction we all recognize to be the demons)
The different time passage would make sense since Samuel Haden was hell bent on telling us how the Icon of Sin would get stronger as time passed "the longer the icon of sin is on earth the stronger he becomes"...
So interesting if you read Paradise lost argent energy was said to be the material angels and demons are made of. This was written like 200 years ago as well.
"Before he could kill the remaining hell priests"
*Proceeds to casually walk around them for over a minute as they speak to him*
I’m still curious what that demon was at the end of the Urdak mission that was submerged in water. Hoping that some of these loose ends and potential time jumps are future story threads id is creating now for future games.
I know it’s not a demon, rather it’s some large type of maker angel.... maybe a former king or something? That’s about all i know!
Wasn't it body of next Khan Maykr waiting for something like soul from Father.
I think it’s supposed to be one of the angels. I remember when breaking apart the angel’s armor in the boss fight and it looked identical to the one in the pool
I think it was the kahn makyr before the current one in doom eternal
It kinda reminds me of cthulhu the way it looks in the water maybe it could be a reference just my thoughts
Sometimes I'd forget what that blue coin he tosses at the priest corpses like "here, buy yourself some relevance"
dinosaurs interacting demonic creatures, demonic dinosaurs? interesting to say the least, hope they show us more, i'm also still wonder if the ruler that sets things right in the dlc is the father or a newly birthed khan maykr
I see he got the new skin for his heavy assault rifle
Who hasn't? Lol
Hugo Stiglitz Me, because I can’t play Battlemode and get more XP.... (my wifi is terrible)
Every man in the German army knows of Hugo Stiglitz
Slightly unrelated but the giant statue of Olivia Pierce in Nekroval could be supporting evidence of a different rate of passing time in hell since the factory was built way before doom 2016 apparently took place
Multiple/parallel dimensions, being that the Slayer/Doomguy are one and the same, his "Earth" moved on after he saved it, ending up with the Sentinels a explained in Eternal.
being in Hell, time would progress differently. It's another plane of existence where scientific laws do not apply, including physics and time.
Can you do a video on the massive creature in urdak? Right before you go and fight the khan maykr there is a massive creature in the water, has this already been solved or is it something we don’t know yet.
It resembles a Kahn Makyr to-be
Chromiia YT yeah I was thinking that, maybe it could be the father, maybe he’s not dead and this is where they are storing him.
Why do you all ask about this guy? We certainly see it is a Khan Maykr or the Father (which I doubt cause I imagine the Father as some sort of an energy being, a transistent mind). AcidGlow already had a video on this creature, so it is luttle to no mystery now.
I always thought that was a portal like a hell portal as a part of the blood ritual that the hell priests were doing I figured as that priest was station there in the uac cultist base that portal that you think is a drill if looked from above like space it would make a demonic sign like the others you see from the doom fortess however I could be wrong it may every well be a drill
im wondering if you have considered that the people from argent d'nur very well could be the ancestors of humans seeing as how in the lore it states that they colonised earth millions of years ago...
What about the demonic voice speaking backwards just right when the doomguy finishes thew spider mastermind in doom 2016, and while gets teleported. The same voice was speaking in doom 20-16 when doomguy killed vega, and turned out to be a HUGE lore content . like this so that RipNTear will see this and check it out maybe :D awesome videos man!!
I heard no voice
@@TheCyberfoxGod69 listen here, exactly when he gets teleported at the end of the video: deep voice , speaking something most likely on backwards. That voice is a file in the game that can be extracted and reversed, listened wirthout the background noise,. I AM SURE IT MEANS SOMETHING! just like it did when he killed vega. I would try to extract it but I don't know how ruclips.net/video/usUH8vXS1j0/видео.html
@@MikeRussell51 omg how did i never noticed that. its in fact multiple voices and i recognize Hayden from the beggining of the game the elevator scene voice clip is among those voices.
I still hear no voice time stamps? Did anyone manage to extract and reverse?
Love your videos man keep it up
Awesome info on the cult man. Thanks
Nice video, mate. It does bring up certain issues that I've encounter while being stuck on the 3 level with hurt me plenty difficulty. I see something like this being plausible.
This ship could originate from urdak because the design of the ship is very similar to urdak's design
Nice video man, I love the DOOM Lore 😁
There's a colossal skeleton of a titan or possibly something even bigger in the doomhunter base.
Shortly before the end of the level you go around a charged tower with cacodemons to get the last suit point in the level. Look out to the horizon from the outermost point of that tower to see it.
completely off topic but wraith have you heard the new song from slaughter to prevail : demolisher
if you like shadow of intent you might like this one to
You should make a heretic video and doom's ties to hexen/heretic
Already did it a while ago: ruclips.net/video/rtWSgC-ar7k/видео.html
The hell priests are night sentinels
I KNEW I SAW OLIVIA PEIRCE!
What if the next game confirms doom 3 is cannon too just not the doom slayer
can you make a video on the samuel hayden having makyr origins (being samur makyr, the makyr angel/seraphim who stole the father), and also how VEGA says he is the father? i dont really understand the whole thing and reddit doesn't go into depth with it. also your videos concerning the lore of the doom universe are extremely clear and concise and I have no issues understanding and absorbing the information. thanks!
Samuel has his own agenda, separate from Urdak and Hell. He stole the mind of Father and used it to create VEGA, so Samuel can use VEGA and UAC to manipulate Hell into invading Earth, so Urdak's soul harvest gets involved too, so Doom Slayer has a reason to remove all key players (Urdak and Hell), helping Samuel advance his plans.
thank you for great contents as always
it sems that nobudy has talked about Deimos in the new Doom games we all that the first Demonic invasion strated on Deimos in Doom 1 and Hell obsorbed the moon sience than if this games are continuing the same than i hope we will visit this Lost location in the future DLCs
I've been working and editing a timeline for years that takes all of the DooM games new and old and puts them in one huge chronological timeline. I've got most of it written up, part of it in my head, and I really just need to make a video explaining it already.
But when it comes to the Doom Hunters and other demon looking creatures in Earth's ancient past, I've got a possible headcanon. Obviously I take Doom3's story into consideration, where it talks about the ancient martians that fought the demons and then escaped to Earth in retreat and most likely ended up becoming us/humans. It could be that maybe some forms of demons followed through their portals to Earth and more fighting continued on Earth until they were all killed off. Maybe the initial martian teleport destination was at the pole.
I'm still working on the details but I am trying to see if it would make sense for the ancient martians to have actually been Argentians. I have in my timeline, the Arachnids (Arachnotrons/Spider Masterminds) actually being an alien race who'd colonized with the martians on Mars and helped develop the tech for teleportation, and when Mars was attached the Arachnids choose to stay and fight them to the last 'man' eventually being corrupted and turned evil themselves. It's actually pretty funny how similar my timeline is to Doom Eternal's in that regard... humanoid people coming into contact with aliens that have huge brains and the aliens with huge brains become evil? Anyway just as I'm trying to work in having the Martians be Argentians, I'm also seeing if it could work having the Arachnids actually be Urdacians. Open to ideas.
I just like that they make demons for me to kill. Cool theories tho:)
Good
the great agaddon hunters from telos realm
Cult: nooo you can't just spoil all our plans!
Sammy: haha green boi in a coffin go boom boom
can you please tell us how you got that new assault rifle skin?
It's part of series 3. Just grind xp and you'll have it in no time
@@Choagie thank you. i was confused since i saw it at draqu too but no one was talking abt it.
Nice content, liked and subbed, gotta support a doom channel/doom content.
You wanna see some real demons? Check out dance moms
Demon whale?? Do you mean the dopefish?
0:42 I'm not criticising you. But why didn't you use flame belch and then grenade it seems like a waste of ammo.
Playstyle mostly like I used chainsaw only 2-3 times(last 3-4 missions) in my entire doom 2016 playthrough on ultraviolence I can conserve ammo in doom
And what is the role of the Illuminati :D
Olivia aka KAREN Pierce
Kinda sucks that it was just an awesome model that originally was supposed to be a final area but it didn't work. However they loved it so much they used as an art piece.
Also it's probable that it was never discovered by humans until after the melting of the polar ice caps. If you noticed there's not alot of ice in the Arctic
You didn't explain shit. You just made a summary of what was already said in the codex. And me here thinking you made the connection between the UAC Cult and the New World Order&their particle at Switzerland.