Classic NYC diners face uncertain future
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- Опубликовано: 9 апр 2024
- New York City classic diners stand as timeless sanctuaries, yet finding one is becoming increasingly difficult. FOX 5 NY's Dan Bowens has the story.
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I used to go to diners. Now that it costs $60 for a meal for two I’d rather eat at home.
Exactly. It's not because people don't like diners or they are "out of style." Everything is just too damn expensive now!!
then eat at home
@@donjulio4025 Yes, very intelligent comment. Who would have thought? 😂
@@donjulio4025 eat 💩💩💩 a hole!!
on top of that you don't even walk out with any leftovers because the prices have gone up while the portions have gone down!
Everything classic is disappearing
Many 24 hour diners now close at 10 or 11 PM.
Its not 24 hrs if they close at 11
@@Yoyomu205 Think they are missing a word: previously.
24 hour diners are a thing of the past, due to crime.
Nobody works overnight anymore
The Tick Tock Diner, Clifton, NJ (about 20-minute ride from Manhaton, NY is open 24/7. 'Eat Heavy'
The rent are too damn high!
That's why you should own. Rent isn't worth it anymore.
@@gimcrack555 this isn’t a condo or a home. Most restaurants or small businesses rent from a building or commercial landlord
@@gimcrack555Yeah although Tom’s Restaurant will be hard pressed to buy a $80m building. These buildings are owned by billion dollar corporations.
It black democrat mayor joe biden causing this keep voting for them
Used to love Tom’s Restaurant back in the 1970s-1980s. Of course that was before Seinfeld when it was a local diner catering to the Columbia University neighborhood. Does anyone remember Betty, the famous waitress? What a character. Everybody loved her. 🍳☕️🥯
New York ain’t the same idk why ppl still live here anymore
Aside from inflation, how so?
I never thought anyone could be a better Mayor than Bill DiBlasio, but Eric Adams is the GOAT! He is truly helping The City live up to its nickname "The Port-au-Prince of America."
I can’t justify paying 4-6x for a normal breakfast meal. Used to be $8, now it’s easy $35..
It's everywhere. Here in Charlotte we had dozens of diners once. They were run by Greek immigrants originally and in some cases were taken over by one or more of their children when the owners retired. Some were sold when the kids refused to work the horrid hours and became professionals. I used to work for the telephone company and think I must have eaten in every one of them. They were always filled with power and telephone company workers. There are still a few left but not many. The older industrial areas are now residential and higher rents forced them out. One of the oldest places, Mama K's served the first pizza in Charlotte. Some are 24 hour joints, very entertaining when the drunks come in at 2 AM.
I worked for my mother's step father in his place for 6 years starting as a dish washer at 13 and working part time after I left for a job at the phone company. I can still do eggs any style, make great just right bacon, ( I sometimes cooked 40 lbs in a day) I've seen people do amazing things to grits from mixing their egg in to adding sugar to grape jelly.
I'm retired now but I should probably take a ride one day and see how many are still left.
I'm from Charlotte too. What you are saying is 100% true.
🎶If you can make it there, you must be a million-aire, it's NOT for you, New York, New York! 🎶
So crazy but deliberate
Tiffany's Diner is closed. Gentrification is killing the spirit of New York and transplants are being catered to rather than"real New Yorkers".
Those "Cheers" days are OVER!
Same in Chicago. I went to one for breakfast last week. $25 for French toast, bit of bacon & coffee. That's the same as a bag of groceries from the Aldi's. We were the only table until a few others came in as we left...
Everything in new york city is decaying totally disgusting what's happening to our city total disgusting shame
Just remember, you voted for this. Don't complain now...
@@Chad_Max I doubt anyone who complains about the changes have voted the way you think but I trust your IQ
@@Chad_Max what are you a communist?
Democrats call this progress
@@SamsungJ-xk9pt people just aren’t going to dinners and they’re struggling. This is the free market.
I miss the Pelham Bay Diner! What a neighborhood classic. Whenever we wanted to get together as a family in jiffy, or we'd go there the night before my siblings would fly back home at the end of the holiday season. The chicken tenders were so good. Man, I wish that place would come back. If not that place, then at the very least another restaurant and NOT a medical office.
What’s worst is that they haven’t done anything with that property, it’s like looking at a rotting corpse. Sad because I used to go there a lot myself when I was still living in the BX.
Yes on Pelham Pkwy…home sweet home❤️
@@NYPATRIOTBX yes! It’s such a shame
@@BronxRisen indeed it is home sweet home!
@@BronxRisen OMG i miss the diner in pelham parkway 2&5 train
Sad. The city doesn't care.
it is true that when you walk into your usual diner, as soon as you enter, they have started your order and they are pouring your coffee before you sit down. So basically, you can sleepwalk into the place and your order will magically appear. One time, I decided to order something different for a change and I saw the cook in the kitchen look befuddled because he saw me walk in and was already halfway through cooking my usual. Poor guy.
I love Diners. Had not been since the Pandemic, and yesterday I went to my favorite one in Jersey City, Miss America Diner on Westside Avenue. It was like returning home. Nice people, great restaurant great food and prices. Diners are a place of community, and you don't have to dress up, so unassuming. ❤
I am Jersey native and I grew up with diners all over the state in the 80’s and had fond memories. I no longer live in Jersey left 30 years ago and I am sure many of them are no longer there.
I love American diners and the food they serve. I'm Chinese from China. I go to an American diner at least once a week here in California.
Do any americans work there? Or just migrants. Cuz thats the problem.
FYI: Diners in CA are NOT the same as in NY, NJ, PA, and other eastern states. Visit, and you'll understand. :)
@@Bobbr3 Really? I look forward to visiting the diners in NY, NJ, PA and other eastern states in the future. Thank you for the info. I thought the diners in CA were already so good... LOL I still remember my first experience with an American diner at Mel's Diner in LA..... It has such good food! I love the vibe and decor at Mel's because it's just what I saw in the American movies when I was growing up in China. LOL. I love American diner food, comforting and delicious!
@@RealLadyK People usually feel that certain things are "better" in their home areas, which is understandable. As for me, my job had me travelilng all over the USA for many years, so I speak from experience. I have not experienced diners that exceed the variety and style that is found in the northeastern USA. They are almost a way of life in PA/NJ/NY. In some areas of NJ, it's actually funny to find a diner every two or three miles along a single highway. That is not so in other areas of the county, as I learned. There was a diner in Philadelphia that was famous all over the eastern USA, and people STILL sing it's radio jingle today!
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Odessa was a fantastic restaurant. That one I really miss. Excellent pierogi and kashavarneskee. It was open 24 hours.
NYC is always changing. The word nostalgia remains in the dictionary.
Honestly, they're are tons of diners everywhere and I don't believe all will be gone just that there will be a good amount closing.. with prices up, I guess most including me are hesitant to more consistently buy food outside.. but there are a whole lot more options to eat than just diners like back then. I'd rather have more variety than more diners...
The last time I was in a diner, not one single person on the staff said, 'Hello', 'Thank you', or 'Please'. Diners used to be place of customer service. They did it to themselves
Diners didn’t catch up with the changing times. It’s hard to pay 20 bucks for an omelette and toast and coffee
Its not that. Its that people aren't going to sit down and dine in these places anymore. The diners that are thriving are the ones that adapted to delivery options, the ones that didn't are closing down...
Facts prices are outrageous 😢
@Chad_Max if that's the case I wonder why restaurant's are still running people sit down and enjoy themselves so I don't think that's a valid excuse it's the rising rent and the fact they haven't adjusted to changing time's .
Try $36 in Sausalito CA
@@Chad_Max That and that people don't feel safe anymore
24/7 dinners are disappearing smh
I can't afford to eat out
Around my apartment I had 5 diners 20 years ago. Most were open 24 hrs. Now I only have 2 of them left and only 1 is open 24 hrs.
I love to eat at a Diner
So glad my beloved Manhattan Diner on the Upper West Side is still going strong! Prices are higher, like everywhere, but the generous "Mom's Meatloaf" dinner order, with mashed potatoes and mixed vegetables, is still a steal - enough to feed 2 hungry people, or 1 person for 2 days.
And no fancy-schmancy latte-schmattay coffee, from any "barista" special coffee shop, comes close to the immediate comfort of a thick china cupful of diner coffee, served to you right at the counter when you sit down.
Blame greedy landlords for raising the rent and driving small businesses out of New York. The city keeps assessing the value of property and raising property taxes every year, which is not good for mom-and-pop shops!
It’s not necessarily “greedy” landlords that are the problem; at least not entirely, anyway. Landlords have one motivation and that is to make money on the property they own. If they don’t have tenants, they have no income and the longer they have no income, it ends up costing them money. Haven’t you ever sold a car privately? Your goal is to make the sale as quickly as possible for the highest value. The longer you sit on that car, the more it costs you time and money showing it to people, washing it, paying insurance on it etc. If you deliberately over value your car, by the time you sell it (if you sell it) you’re not going to make as much money because you’ve already poured a whole bunch of money into it while it sat there.
Landlords charge a lot for rent because everything else in the city costs a lot, and most of that is government taxes, licensing and other red tape. They have no interest in charging a ridiculous amount because they feel they can. Yes, they understand that they’re sitting on prime real estate in, say, Murray Hill, and a landlord knows that they can rent it for a higher rate than the same apartment in Toledo Ohio, but it’s always been that way. What changed is government got greedy and this is a side effect of their greed. We, the non landlords, are feeling it the worst.
Maybe if the banks didn't fuck up the economics of NY there would be lots of diners
Diners are disappearing. Jewish delis are on the endangered list. Dairy restaurants are extinct.
I still go to diners, even though I don't live in New York, the matter is very much the same. As an example, in Newport News, the Blue Star Diner closed in 2009. It has been for sale for quite some time. I ate there often, either with family, or alone. I bought the newspaper the day that Nixon resigned and read it there.
We loved Empire Diner
We lost 3 diners - Flagship, Bayside, and Pop’s Diner.
I remember when Kiev in East Village closed, I was distraught. I remember using the old phone booth at Odessa looking for a job when I lived at Hotel 17. I remember the classic Cheyenne Diner on 34th St and Jones Diner on Great Jones. I think we are becoming a world of phone zombies like the pod people in Invasion of the Body Snatchers. The internet has killed the outnet.
ever go to the Market Diner on 11th, around 43rd st.?
I just looked it up (the Market Diner). Permanently closed. There's a new-ish building there with a Starbucks on the ground floor. It's sad when one's personal history passes. So many good place lost in NYC. Especially the old bakeries!
It's not just in NYC either. The Melrose Diner, a fixture of South Philly since the '30s, closed last year.
The moonlight diner was really good on 6th Avenue.They moved it out-of-state. That was a antique RV style diner Everyone in soho went to.
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They charging too much for something you could make yourself. I was able to make pancakes bacon and eggs in the 5th grade by myself.
It’s not enjoyable when you have to think about the price.
Hard to find good food now days
I love diner food but they’re just so expensive now. There’s only 1 fairly priced diner on Bell Blvd. I’ll head to if I’m craving it but it’s quite the trip!
Not mentioned is the Waverly Diner on Sixth Avenue & Waverly Place. They are open pretty late. Terrific food and the best Turkey Club I've ever had. You can tell a great diner by their Turkey Club. They own the building so they're not affected by landlord greed.
What's great about a good diner is how they let you linger and relax after your meal. I've done it many times, working and enjoying bottomless coffee.
There's a new 24-hour diner opening on Third & 22nd Street called Diner 24/7. I wish them luck and will patronize. It's the former home of the Lyric Diner.
S&P, the old Eisenberg's on Fifth & 22nd is terrific. No booths and limited hours (8:00-5:00). Also try the Lexington Candy Shop on 83rd & Lex. It's like going back in time. Terrific food and a classic soda fountain. Pricey but worth it.
Unfortunately there are many mediocre diners, or ones that are hit-or-miss.
Love James and Karla!! Real New Yorkers who know and love the city!! I've run into them around town and they rock!
well theyre not open 24 hours anymore, a burger is $15! heck even Baconeggncheese is like 9 dollar
At first glance I read "Classic NYC restaurants face uncertain furniture"... I got saddened. 😢
We can't let this happen support our local diners
Well, they are all sitting duck.
Feels like home. That sums it all up.
Dinosaurs and My Friends moved out of NYC by 65,000,000 years ago . Good !
Old story. A lot of diners closed long ago like my favorite, Vegas Diner".
Vegas diner in bensonhurst. So many Good memories
30 bucks for coffee and grilled cheese. Plus the entitlement for tip.
Little Poland 200 second Avenue between 13th and 12th street in Manhattan. Breakfast potatoes are seasoned.
People don’t have time to eat at a sit down place and it’s sad.
Exactly the same as pubs in the UK. Our culture is rapidly disappearing.
It's sad I visited NYC in 2019 and ran out of time to go to Tom's Restaurant.
The city & its politicians can get stuffed. I'm out of here!! !!
Shout out to Court Square Diner in Queens (where they film a lot of tv shows) and cant forget Petes Diner in Sunnyside.
Same to Jax Inn and Jahn’s in Jackson Heights!
The greasy spoon! NJ, The Floridian! Joe Jrs., Sixth Ave! NYC.
NYC diners are a dying breed. 😢😢
The NY 🗽 diner trend was from 1965 to 2005. Not now. 2024. Even "NYers" are unaware of the restaurants.
Love Diner food ❤ ours just closed
0:58 "Ideal DINETTES" is not a diner, it's a store that sells kitchen sets (tables, chairs, etc.).
Someone needs to do a quality of life poll across the nation.
The issue is Diners do not provide quality food but want to still charge $60+ for a meal for two. Its very simple provide quality food and decent service and if you want to charge $60+ then the prices can be justified but if you don't then you will go out of business.
There was a song written about that diner also
Really sad world we live in now. Lots of these little stores are disappearing.
If you want to open a successful restaurant, open a new but retro style diner and diner prices - one on the westsdie, Eastside, Midtown, East village and West Village.
Mcdonald is cheaper than dinner restaurants. 😂
No body goes to New York to go to a diners. Everybody knows the best diners are all in New Jersey.
Facts! New Jersey is the Mecca and has the most diners per capita in the America. I know I am from Jersey born and bred and I went to quite a few in the 80’s.
Aw. Odessa's in the Village was a great post-club or morning spot for a great lumberjack breakfast. Jimbo's was another spot for me.
Now, if you want good NY diners, go further north like Poughkeepsie.
Most of my NYC faves are gone and life became unbearable. Out for over 10 years.
Go to Queens. Plenty of diners left here.
Yes n only migrants work there n all u hear is spanish. Nobody wants that....they dont hire americans anymore and thats the problem. Customers dont want to feel like theyre in venezuala n the migrants run to diners cuz they dont ask for documents.
This is what needs support , instead of cheap fast food joints like mcdonals.
The diners with parking lots will be doomed, the land is worth many times the profits from a diner.
Rent is going crazy prices are going up, plus he food is old and dirty,
Outside PE firm needs to come in and help the diners with creating a cooperative for food ordering and hiring. Find their weak points and strengthen with a centralized system. Maybe not the ideal way, but not easy to solve.
EVERYTHING has a shelf life.
Eggs With Cheese On The Side Is Insane
James and Karla!! 😊
diners are hard to come by even here in new england… too bad for us
Landlords price gouge tenents .... The restaurants then make unrealistic prices. Capitalist cannibalism
You showed a picture of a furniture store...😊
That’s really sad 😢
Not only diners but so many latino spots in Chelsea and the West Village are gone. Sorry to go back to the early 90s.
A huge loss to the variety and quality of fun life in NYC!!
Olympic flame closed few years ago.
I can’t justify spending 15+dollars on a stack of pancakes breakfast when it cost 3 to do it at home and I’m not guilted into tilling at least 20%
Nyc is done
It’s truly sad
Restaurants everywhere are becoming too expensive. The cost of real estate; labor; food; utilities are just too high and then all the stupid regulations. On one hand it is a good thing so people cook ad eat at home, but restaurants are part of the social fabric which disappears. Dont order food thru foodapps either they charge like 30 % or more. Dont go to fast food either, just mom and pop type places.
Scrambled eggs, cheese on the side? Bro who orders cheese on the side?
R.I.P. Joe Juniors on 6th Ave and w12
If they sold more BIG SALADS, they'd do better.
With tomato 1/4ths??? Big chunk of tomato.
Or a Bob Cobb salad!!
What about the Northern New Jersey or Connecticut Fairfield County or Westchester County New York or Long Island (Nassau and Suffolk Counties) New York and don’t forget rRockland County New York diners???
Shout-out to Metro Diner!
No...say it aint so!
Nostalgia 😘
How about reduce taxes to near zero, that should solve a lot of the vanishing diners and great restaurants.
They replace all restaurants w shawarma shops and call it diversity.
What a shame
They have been replaced by street vendors selling bacon wrapped hot dogs 😅
That was the diner the taxi drivers meet in the movie taxi driver ? I had no idea always thought it was in Harlem cause of the shines that were in that scene