Red Tails - Me 262 Intercept
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Gets hit by a 30mm: *just a scratch*
Gets hit by a .50 cal: *rips wing off*
And that’s why I hate this movie
P51s fire 20mm and 50 cals hit better
Unrealistic af
@@Tommybike547 Did you seriously walk into a Hollywood movie about air combat expecting it to be realistic? You know documentaries exist right?
@@koc988 I do know documentaries exist. However movies should go for at least some level of realism. And don't be rude.
There's actually German footage where they test that 30 mm they use in Me-262s. They fired a single shot in the center of captured Spitfire. It was cut in half. By a single shell. Just saying...
And here they do less damage than a 0.5 M2 gun. Hilarious
Ikr. It really irked me so much tnat the immersion for me.was broken, and i was openly saying to myself:
Thats one mustang blasted to shrapnel. Thats another mustang blown to confetti, thats a tailess B17. Theres a kittyhawk turned to chaff.
Because even earlier. When the Kitty/Warhawk zerg attacked the 109s, pretty sure those were G6-10's judging by the protrusions from the engine coweling and wings. Guess what. The G6-10 109's had the same cannon(s if gunpods were taken) as the Me262
@@kethtemplar8989 it ripped giant holes in the wing bc there was too much penetration
There is actual footage of me262 doing high speed close passes of b25 and they get 2-3 b25 in .5 seconds with their wings exploding and falling off.
We don't need Me-262 Footage we have A-10 footage...
I wish my B-17 can survive a 30mm like that in War Thunder
Ong bro I always be getting pilot sniped or my wings taken off
war thunder is not real to the point of real life
Yeah same but two words Russian bias
@@srcreeper02550 War Thunder is more realistic than this trash
@@srcreeper02550 ah yes, a pilot surviving multiple 30 mm cannon shot from an Jet is Realistic
ah yes, p51 mustangs catch up to a me-262 in a hard climb. realistic.
who said they achieved?
They literally got out climbed in the scene.
Of course no one catches thatt
Easy says “those babies are gone.”
What I don’t get is nobody notices that it seems there is a bit too many 262’s in the air, I may be wrong but I don’t think that many would be intercepting together
A couple of 30mm Minengeschosse directly hitting the pilot: "Tis but a scrach kind Sir!"
tis but a flesh wound
@@Hoyt-wb1fj dis but a skin screch
Its just a flesh wound
they wouldn't do a full red mist with the actor just to realistically simulate a 30mm hit
@@srcreeper02550 CGI?
Those 262's were retrofitted with .22LR ammunition.
🤣🤣 more like 22 rimfire
@@travoltaminak3444💀💀💀
6mm softair ... 😉😆🤣🤣😂😂
airsoft BBs
Can’t imagine how terrifying it must’ve been for Allied airmen to see a jet for the first time
theres audio on youtube of the pilots reacting to the speed of the jet, they described it as "it flew by us like we were standing still"
Really could hear the confusion and terror in their voice
@@dr.chopper3804 for your information that was part of a documentary on how the pilots *could* react
Especially for a fact that you already knew that you were piloting the fastest fighter plane during the war then the Jerries sends these
@@thomasbenito274 , when the Boss Fight moves to Phase 2
@@dr.chopper3804 that wasnt real 💀
Those me-262s had four 30 mm cannons in the nose I know it was probably for Hollywood and the movie rating for kids but in real life if a pilot was hit with those things they would be a red mist.
Also the german pilot in the beginning says "show no mercy" kinda cringe
@@ari_a2764 I know right? Hollywood portrays germans at that time like relentless killing machines with no feelings, it is hilarious
@@ari_a2764 fr lol. Like a corny Disney villain
@@ari_a2764 zeigt keine gnade😈
72-85g of explosive filler. 650rpm per gun. Four guns. 2600rpm total.
It's like a fire hose that sprays hand grenades.
Like, actual hand grenades. The Mk II grenade in use with the US Army at the time had about 52-66g of explosive filler.
In all fairness, the P-51 was fitted with a "fire hose" of its own, just not the hand-grenade-spraying variety.
.50 cals: Rip wing off of Me-262 with a single shot
30mm cannons: Make pinholes in P-51
Cuz of plot armor not realism. Those Me262 squadron could wipe out those P51s easily
The Me-262 had a lot of plot armor
It went into a turn with a P-51 on its tail and didn't bleed off speed and get swarmed.
How the hell is the dude still alive after taking multiple 30mm rounds
But he not
And 20mms
Mortally injured after he was shot, then Maurice probably died before his P-51 hits the ground or when it hit the ground. (had to edit because of goddamn autocorrect I didn’t notice)
@@srcreeper02550 What do you mean
@@Zeccareal he died man, got hit by the 30mm and fell
0:31 the gun sound of the ME-262 always gives me goosebumps.
Not realistic, the main shots were WAY faster
too bad they got the rate of fire completely wrong - sounds more like the Mark 103s than the 108s the 262 had in real life; fired 2.5 times faster than that.
@@Wziafz Hollywood is just plain stupid
@@masterDevismoreso they want what's more entertaining.
@@MrSpy13011 yeah, more entertaining to themselves.
The sound of the ME 262 engine its awesome!!!
Ikr
Especially at 1:04
better than most modern jets
Literally the sound used for Wile E. Coyote's ACME rockets. Appropriate, given their actual reliability.
@@Knight-Bishopat 1:18 LOL, all I can think of is Looney Tunes
imagine how good this movie would be if it has any sense of realism at all
You people play war thunder waaaay too much then take literally anything ww2 way too serious
Yeah, because you were there.
@@lol-un6nl he's right a p51 could never have kept up with the me 262
I think ur the one who plays war thunder day night and is coping💀
Imagine 50.cal broke the wing to Pieces and 30mm cannon only do a scratch
That’s what i was wondering. Why the hell would a 50.cal rip off its entire fuselage but a 30mm cannon does barely any damage AND not blow up the pilots? This movie is a straight 2/10
@@localtvswitcheroffer7132
Realism: 0.01/10
Action: 7/10
Actors: 7/10
Me 262: 10/10
P-51: 0.00000000000001/10
#ww2: 9/10
(my opinion)
@@OfficialDoggyYT Approved
@@localtvswitcheroffer7132 if u wonder why such a low score for p51, I just hate it lol.
the 30mm didn't hit the plane directly, it was just a few bursts in the tail of the B17 and the mustang. it would be too difficult to make a realistic 30mm wound, as the pilot would literally explode in blood.
Typical Hollywood. Instead of capitalizing on an awesome cinematic moment of each 262 shooting down 2 bombers in one pass (which would actually be quite realistic), they just damage the tail of one.
Americans never die in American movies and German cannons are turned into light machine guns
Hella plot armor lol @@threadworm437
Historically accurate. The Red Tails never lost a bomber, deflection shooting was difficult, and the guns on the Me-262 weren't very accurate compounded by problems with the mountings.
@@jamesricker3997 troll account good bait
Those pilots must have use Black magic for shooting down those Me 262
quite a lot me’s were killed theyre still slow and can be caught in a low energy state they just can outrun say a p51-D but it wasn’t uncommon for the me’s to b shot down
It’s based off a real event my dude
That or affirmative action...who knows lol
@@roadking.118 or like guns too
ME jet only winning speed, but not in manuvered, remember, those ME actualy still in prototype that not finished test project
the 262 is such a good looking plane I always thought it looked like a shark
Probably was the intention to make it scary for the enemies.
@@langbo9999 i doubt there was rly any attention to how it looked, it was very very experimental, most likely a coincidence
'Sturmschwalbe' - stormbird.
When I first saw a Me-262 in the RAF museum in Hendon it looked like a sleek and deadly shark.
sky shark lmao'
@@pancakeking2467. With a 20mm bite.
@@andrewmontgomery5621 30mm
Looks can be deceiving... The Fw 190 was a much better fighter. Too many teething issues with desperate rushes instead of fixing problems and not really testing things before sending them out to fight. H-douche's obsession with "wonder weapons" magically pulling a victory out of his ass.
@@Knight-BishopI agree, ME 410 is one of the most beautiful planes ever IMO.
It was a terrible plane.
I don’t think an ME-263 is gonna waste his billets on a mustang, second, that man, and the stand would be torn apart.
Imagine being given the best interceptor aircraft in the war with the deadliest armament only to still not shoot down a single bomber.
It's a movie
@@tiagomonteiro130 but this actually happened. The Red Tails were known for having never lost a single escort, even when the 262's came into action.
@@justaminiguy6554 Source : trust me bro
@@justaminiguy6554 On 18th March 1945 the ME 262 shot down 12 B-17's the ME 262 shot down a total of 542 aircraft i don't care about your delusions and wishful thinking if you have to lie about the German military to make it look bad then it just shows how good they were
@Tiago Monteiro source: ruclips.net/video/X2mBs7HwsPA/видео.html go touch grass, wehraboo
The manoeuvrability in the scene in the movie where a P51 does a full 180 in a loop in under 2 seconds and how manouverable these planes are in general is unrealistic
Either way, I love the scene where the Me 262s arrive. And the Luftwaffe pilot says ‘Show no mercy’
As someone who plays IL2 a lot. I must admit I wish the ME262 really did have that insane roll rate.
No wonder this film got panned....
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. It got panned over something 99% of people don't know.
People are just too soy boys for this film
Trust me it had nothing to do with the accuracy of the planes...
It got panned because of bad writing, and characters that were more like "caricatures". It hardly mattered that the writers knew jack💩 about flying, because the target audience didn't know, either.
@@GeekFurious Well, I just watched this clip -- the first I've seen of this film -- and the dialogue writing and acting are low bar to put in kindly. It got panned for good reason, even if you think it's only about race. YAWN.
I believe that the only 262's shot down were on take off and landing. While they flew slow.
I know one was shot down in a dive trying to restart his jets after engine failure.
I liked the movie but it was a joke on accuracy.
Pilot taking a 30mm round and still jibbajabering...
Fr lol
They were also shot when they made attack runs on bombers as they had to slow down to hit accurately. This gave the P-51s a window in which they could dive on the 262s before they accelerated to get away.
There are recorded instances of A2A kills, even by one (maybe two) of the actual red tails. Battle kills, not take off and landing.
@@hussarregiment7045 262's did usually dive through the formations. If they slowed down then to a velocity like 700 kph which was about max speed of a Mustang. And accelerating again in a shallow dive the 262 very quickly approached 850-900 kph, no chance for any prop driven fighter! That doesn't mean there weren't occasions Mustangs or other Allied fighters hunt the 262 down but German jet pilots tried to avoid such situations and developed attack tactics that made interception around the bomber formations nearly impossible. That's why the Allies changed their tactics as well waiting for the jets at their airfields to get them when they were most vulnerable. The 262's as well as the Meteors made very clear that the prop fighter age was over!
more than 30 Me 262s were shot down due to dogfights
just too unrealistic. The Me 262 was a bomber killer. A singgle attack run could take out 2-3 bombers. 2nd any Me 262 pilot would know not to even engage P51 because the P51 was more agile yet too slow to intercept a Me 262. With other words Me 262 tasks was engaging bombers and ignoring fighters. The fuel limit for the Me 262 made it nearly impossible to have time wasting dog fights with a P51. At this point flying straight at high speeds was way safer for the germans. Also if a single Me 262 round hits a pilot you can consider him being torn apart. Most unrealistic part is the shot down of the Me 262. Most confirmed shoot downs were during approach and climbing of a Me262 because that's when the jet was still slow. Hence, any Me 262 pilot would avoid flying curves and loosing speed. Those P51 were too agile to be messed when Me262 flew slow.
The movie should be named "The American dream"😂
0:19 - *"Show no mercy"*
I can't get over how bad this movie was
How was it bad?
@@mcfrisko834 the name of the pilots and well this scene
The me262 didn’t stick around for this long to fight due to consumption of fuel and limited ammo
@@MattKearneyFan1 Oh okay
I love how the first pilot gets shot by multiple 30mm rounds without dying instantly.
2:04 Imagine losing your wing
WarThunder.exe
the .50 are not peashooters, right?they can penetrate light armor and destroy any fighter. the 262 had no protection on the wing tanks, so it took off.
Still imagine not having a wing
@@Benji1969 you roll and fall
@@srcreeper02550 hehe true
0:19
This is probably the only line the actor sounded good in 🤣
Pretty cringe thing for him to say though, at least with that tone.
@@gustaveliasson5395you just summed up this movie!!!
Yeah pretty lame. More like “get them before the bombs drop”
What did he say ?
@@Weirdguywholikesyourmom”Show No Mercy”
Meanwhile in reality:
“What the hell was that!?”
“It went by like we were standing still!!”
Americans will never die in Hollywood movies 😂😂😂😂
The dream of every war thunder player:
wtf they got the 30mm's lethality wrong xP That B-17's tail would be *GONE,* and that guy would be literal minced meat and bone fragments all over the inside of his cockpit if they did it right; getting hit by that round is literally like a *grenade* going off!
Ikr i was expecting the pilot to get dismembered by those bullets. I stopped watching it when I saw the Mustang "catches" up the speed of the 262. What a let down.
@@jairusphelimobrenosantos6400 Like most planes, the Me 262 would slow down while turning. And, there's a line where a pilot starts climbing, saying he needs more speed. He's going to dive on a jet, attacking while the jet is slow and his plane is going fast.
They gave a good nerf to the me262 ammo
it wasn't nerf. Look how that 262 me dropped Maurice and easily pierced the rudder of a b17.
@@srcreeper02550 look how ze American pilot isnt red mist
@@chadreece4231 they wouldn't blow the actor into a ball of blood, would they?
@@srcreeper02550 Maurice was hit by at least 4 or 5 30 mm rounds his plane would have been shred just by the first 2 lmao
The writers didn't know the difference between 30mm and .30 caliber. They were assuming the audience would know even less.
"These jets ain't nothing." - A 30 MM tracer shell is enough to blow up a person.
It honestly looks horrifying. It’s shape makes it look like a flying great white
p51d: *shoots me 262 and ki 200*
Mig 15: thats cute
P- 51s shut down mig-15s in the Korean War too about 12 of them
Mig 15: shoots down P51 Mustang
F-4 Phantom II: *that’s even more cute*
Sea Furies downing MiG-15s over Korea- hold my rum, commie.
@@OfficialDoggyYTMitsubishi A6M Zero: Oh you guys
F6F hellcat: hello there
0:34 Really cool detail, the belly gunner tried to get a fix at the ME-262 but he couldn't, only the reaction at their tail being disintegrated by 30mm rounds.
The Germans would have probably manufactured enough jets to tilt the balance of air power if not for the constant allied bombings of the aircraft manufactories .In my opinion our bomber crewmen were some of the bravest
Hardly, the ME 262s is were terrible dogfighters which is why most of them were relegated to interception and as fighter-bombers, they were fast but turned like bricks and their roll rate were atrocious. If the Germans were serious about mass producing the ME 262 the RAF for example would respond with Gloster Meteor which was already in service.
German engineering is overhyped. They had great ideas, but were never all that practical because they dreamed way too big and beyond their capabilities
@@jamalwilburn228 tbh, many of German innovation later used by ussr and us at cold War. I know, most of this not purely created by them, but they proof it possible. Take for the example like elektroboot, missile and night vision.
@@jamalwilburn228 Hitler dreamed too big mostly, not the engineers. Ofc there were some horribly overengineered designs, but stuff like the P.1011 would have had exceptional flight charateristics and so would the Me 262 HGs.
Germans are good at making complicated vehicles, BMW for example, but they don’t know reliability. The ME-262 for example is good on paper, for bomber interception. Their engines could only withstand 10 flight hours, so that’s shit.
Me 262 gotta be one of the most if not the most badass plane ever.
Dude I love your channel so much, thank you for all the clips.
1:54
0:19
1:53
1:48 1:50
1:51
El P51 no tenía ninguna posibilidad de derribar a un Me 262. Solo cuando estaba expuesto para aterrizar o sii lo sorprendía.
Fantasía yankee
there were cases
Estoy de acuerdo contigo aparte esos 12mm del p51 no partirian el ala del me 262 con muy pocos disparos y los p51 no alcanzarian ni en chiste a los 262 porque los agarraron de sorpresa
@@liamgtx1096 las .50 no eran pistolas de juguete. podría penetrar muy bien a los cazas enemigos. teniendo en cuenta que el 262 estaba ligeramente blindado, derribarlo en un turno fue una hazaña fácil.
Pues los me 262 tenian calibres de 20 y 30 mm y en la pelicula de dispararon a los p51 y no los destrozaron y hicieron kaka como deberia ser solo lo penetraron y cayo lentamente
Se que los calibre 50 son muy fuertes pero tampoco son el calibre mas alto pero tenian la cualidad de incendiar aviones enemigos facilmente pero es como comparar los disparos de un sherman de 75mm con el de un tiger de 88mm
This was an actual story, back in the end of WWII when the Germans send i guess 32 ME 262’s to a 1200 B17 formation and a few P51 Mustang formation. They lost 3 Jets and the USA lost a lot of B17 and Mustang. It was a German victory.
Numbers ain't shit if the enemy can easily outmanouver you.
source?
@@different6620 Numbers are the big shit, in fact. That's how the Allies won the war...
Those ME's were outfitted with R4M air to air rockets which were deadly against the B-17's. It was March 1945, over Berlin where the fight took place. Each ME had 24 R4M rockets on racks under the wing and the rockets were point and shoot. An R4M could tear apart a B-17 and the Germans shot down 17 Forts with them. There were 600 German planes overall. Source: Warfare History Network Deadly duel over Berlin.
The 262s are much faster and more heavily armed, but the P-51s are more agile. The 262 also came too late to save Germany.
The reason the me 262 wasnt as agile as the normal dodge fighter planes is because the me 262 wasnt build to dodge fight
@@Future183 Yeah. It was built to attack and shoot down enemy bombers. The 30mm cannons could take out an enemy bomber no problem.
@@Future183
*dogfight
Anyway, yes, it was designed as an interceptor first and foremost. Besides that, top speed is the jet's key advantage over the propeller plane, so the engine more or less forced the designers to optimize the airframe for speed rather than agility.
Dont forget it’s also made for Boom & Zoom.
(Boom & Zoom is a tactic where a enemy plane and you shoot head on. Take for example the end fight where the red tails p51 magically wins from the me 262 headon.)
British Wellington bomber pilots where told to go into a tight left turn if they encountered a 262 as even a Wellington bomber could out turn a 262.
Nadie puede detener a un Me 262 🇩🇪🇩🇪
Natürlich kann es nichts aufhalten
Das ist einfach ein lustiger amerikanischer Film, Bruder 🤭
@@epicgammerboy2104Du hast
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Should have included this scene in the 1995 "Tuskegee Airmen" TV movie but then again that's HBO budget to everyone (airworthy ME-262s weren't there at that time).
The movie was based more accurately on the creation of the group and it is better than this crap
Yeah the HBO version was WAY better than this nonsense. The way they made the German pilots talk like they were supervillains was so goofy not to mention the banter between pilots was silly. I was so excited for this movie too. Thanks George Lucas
@@chrissmith3668 Yeah, whoever wrote the dialogue should find another job, and some of these actors performed already terrible lines very terribly. Sad. Then, judging by this scene, they have all the guys acting/sounding like they are teenagers from a modern urban, high school locker room. The real Tuskegee Airmen were professionals, and would have sounded like professional while on combat sorties.
I'm not sure which Aviation WWII film is worse, Pearl Harbor or Red Tails.
yeah 30mm cannons little damage? hahaha sure...
WOW! Black pilots can even withstand 4 Mk108s shooting them point blank! They really were the greatest pilots ever, thanks Hollywood!
The sound of the me 262 formation sound like a drum sound are awesome
Sometimes it's not about what's under the hood but who is behind the controls.
'The race is not always to the swift nor the battle to the strong...but that's the way to bet.'
This movie is still unrealistic...
@paul lol
@@roshpenin4701 there have been actual cases of 262s being shot down by mustangs including the redtails.
A 4.0 killing a 7.3 amazin pilots
In Korea a P-51 shot down a Mig-15
Me 262: nah bro i'am the best jet ever, i can wipe out a p51 easily.
Yakolev yak 15:are you sure? Then beat me then.
Me 262 lured the escorts away while fw190 ripped B17s... Me 262 fuel tanks didnt allow them to stick around and dogfight...
why did a 50 cal rip off the wing?
For the same reason the markings on all the German planes in the film are inaccurate, Hollywood culture.
the 262 had no protection on the tanks and wings, and the .50cal was the second most powerful machine gun caliber, second only to the 15mm
@@Humbertusmarius what a load of bullshit man if you knew anything you would know that the me 262 had light armor
An armor piercing round broke a wing spar and an incenery round hit the fuel tank
I love this jet 😍
I would recommend you to remove the Swastika out of your name, wtf are you doing?
Me too my favorite jet is f 35 f 22s
The entrance of Me-262 fighters here in 0:04 is so similar to Red Baron albatross fighters entrance during the Battle of Ypres because both of them is zoomed from the distance
Doing a roll in a Me-262 and bleeding off speed, with a P-51 on your tail would have been suicidal.So would going into a turn.
Damn those jets are fast as fuck but the p51 d also isn't joking.
What do you expect it's a freaking jet
The ME262 was the first Jet fighter to see combat in WW2.
@@AndrewGuns I guess you're right😂
@@ArcticWolf00Alpha0 yeah I knew.
The p51 is pretty joking to me, I clapped p51’s in War Thunder as a me 262
That Merlin engine is music
0:07 can we just talk about how badass this entrance is.
The B-17: eh our boys will handle them we won’t fire a single shot
The German bad guy lost his threat level after they beat him the first in court and I didn't like that, but that's my opinion.
Still like the movie.
God awful movie
Love it.
The jets hiss but the engines roar.
Please do the BF-109 intercept one.
This movie has more holes than 40 exploding 30mm cannon shells from the Mk108 would make. The story feels like it does disservice to the true gents and heroes these black pilots actually were. Kind of makes me wonder who the target audience were for the filmmakers
When lightning dies he take 30mm fire like it is nothing
Bro why does the German hotshot look like a fly 😂😂
Fiction
great work from those B17 gunners
1:47 how the fuck does this physically work, are those bombers just floating stationary??
This fight is between two technology eras, jet engine vs piston engine.
Excuse me but why arent anh of the bomber's gunners firing?
They may hit the Mustangs.
@@samanli-tw3id what? Regardless of wether there are mustangs or not, the gunners on a b17 will keep shooting, especialy if their fellow b17's are getting shot down.
@@epicexcalibur6445 what’s the point of shooting at the jet that is diving past u at 950 km/h?
Hissing jets and roaring turboprops.
1:04
Piston
Floppa
but the p-51 is uses a piston engine
1:09 is my fav part, they did get out ran but the sound, the roar of da V 1650 Merlin is so fucking good😭
Seeing those jets i was like uh oh
That is a big lie . Only one me 262 reportedly shot in the last year of war . And these me 262 didn't play much part in the war
Tf u talking about they entered in 1944 lol
The royal air force shot down quit a few.
this just proves that most of those who criticize this movie don't know anything.....
"These jets ain't nothing", said the cocky american pilot.
*Kurt Welter foaming at his mouth in anger*
Mr. Welter Sr... calm down is just a stupid movie, sir please, NO, KURT, GIVE ME YOUR WEAPON SR!, OH GOD NO, DON'T SHOOT THE PROJECTIONIST HE'S INNOCENT!!
whoever make this movie must have peanut in his head
Me 262s had to be handled carefully, no violent sudden manoeuvres or the engines would flame out and not restart. Throwing on the back and into a dive is not likely. They did not attack formations from the side - usually from the rear and at speed or the gunners would get them; head on the closing speed was too fast. P51 Pilots learned deflection and lead shooting; they did get success leading the Me262s and firing. Six 50 calibre guns packed a serious punch, more than capable of cutting a wing off a 262. The Me 262 had four 30 mm cannon with explosive shells (all the better to shoot bombers down with). One hit on a P51 pilot and he would have been strawberry jam. Pretty Boy would not have painted his plane black with a bright yellow nose - too distinctive - more likely to be shot at. Personal insignia were more discreet. Finally, Hitler who was seriously nuts by then decreed that most Me 262s be used as "terror bombers" despite the fact their speed and lack of bombsight meant hitting anything smaller than a town was unlikely! Consequently few were used to attack daylight bombers. When used properly they were successful.
The whole Me 262 development programme was set back by political infighting between Hitler (who only valued what he saw as offensive weapons) Goering, Milch (who hated Messerschmitt), and Heinkel which set the programme back by years. With proper support Willi Messerschmitt reckoned he could have hade Me 262s flying in 1940. At the Battle of Britain. Yikes!! Nazis really were as mad as a sack of cats and the instrument of their own downfall.
had no idea me 262 were even used during the war, i always thought they were introduced to the war to late
Yeah the red tails were the first to shoot some of them down. They were the most terrifying thing a bomber could encounter.
The 262 entered service in 1944.
There weren't a lot of them built, and the ones that served suffered from the same chronic fuel shortages as the rest of the luftwaffe, but they were a nightmare for allied bomber crews (and their escorts) when they did show up, and had scored ~540 air kills by war's end.
@@michealdeacons7820 they were not the first. Not even close. But they did shoot down 3. Only 3.
Bujdy na kołach Niemieckie MESSERSCHMITT ME 262 były za szybkie dla tych amerykańskich latających pokrak dumnie nazywanych mustangami bardziej tym ulepom pasuje kucyk pony w porównaniu z technologicznie zaawansowanym Messerschmittem
'these jets ain nothin' wait until a bf-109 squadron comes up
Unrealistic the Me 262’s gun would rip planes, they are so much more faster and the pilots flying the Me 262 would be extremely skilled pilots the best in the Luftwaffe.
@@ijustplaygames4987 I never said they had to dog fight the tactic they used is swoop in attack and get out of there then come in for another attack
@@ijustplaygames4987 precisely
Red Tails was my favorite fighter plane movie
Mine too
what software did you use to create these amazing vfx shots?!?!?!
"These jets aint nothin."
Red tails was a great movie. The red tail was the first model I ever completed so it holds a special place in my heart!
@Yuri DeKhed each with their opinion.
@Yuri DeKhed in the movie? mine is based on forgetting about precision and enjoying the film the way it is. WW2 movies are difficult because many fighters planes that were used no longer exist. so there is no way to know exactly how it actually performs or what it can do.
@Yuri DeKhed the following question can't be answered because it's too stupid.
@Yuri DeKhed returning here months later confirming that yes, most critics of this movie don't know anything about how a dogfight works. There are people complaining that there were no aerial cases of p-51s taking down the 262s, something wrong since there were yes cases of p-51s shooting them down, complaining that the .50s took the wing off the 262, a guy thinking boom & zoom is going head-on into another fighter, etc. I don't doubt you're one of those guys with an ego bigger than your brain.
@@srcreeper02550 Me 262 were mostly shot down when they tried to land/had technical problems or when the pilot did a mistake. Usually they used a boom and zoom tactic because they 262 with it's massive 30 mm cannons was designed to shoot down bombers and could easily overtake allied piston fighters. It would never dogfight a p51 like in the movie.
It's not realistic how several hits from the 262 with it's 30 mm Minengeschoss didn't right away shred the plane while the p51 can cut off it's wings just with it's .50 cals or the scene where the p51 destroyed 262 in a head on and even flew through the explosion and survived.
The Me 262 was fast, but could only fly for like what, 10-15 minutes ?
I don't know who told you that but it's completely false.
@@truereaper4572 hes confusing it with the rocket powered fighters i think me 163 natter etc
@@LOL60345 that only has a flight time of like what 7 min?
@@OfficialDoggyYT yes. me-163: reaches ceiling in 3 minutes; 8 minutes total powered flight
The 262's jet engines only lasted for twenty hours or so before they needed to be replaced.
The fighters look like bats flying in and out of the bomber formation.
What kind of boom and zoom tactic is that , in reality the me 262s would blast one bomber for 3 sec and CONTINUE IN A STRAIGHT LINE SO THAT THE ALLIED FIGHTERS COULD NOT CATCH EM
i remember watching this in school . I thought "theres no way germany had jets, thats gotta be hollywood work." and later i looked it up I was speechless. which of course opened a can of worms to all the things germany was working on at the time
It was honestly crazy. If they had the money and supplies to back their ideas, we’d have lost
Germany also had a rocket plane, the Komet (though it wasn't the first, as a 1920's rocket plane successfully flew).
They were hardly ahead of the western allies. 3 months later in July 1944 the Meteor entered service. Due to the technology the British did not want these jets flying over Occupied Europe so they were reserved for a home defense role, mainly in intercepting V1 rockets fired at Britain. As the war went on the British allowed them to fly over Europe. But still not to fly over occupied territories. By the war's end in May 1945 they had destroyed 46 aircraft through ground attack
How is it that Hollywood can screw up a great aviation history story by absolutely crap CGC.
I know these things flew like Tie and X Wing fighters lol... @0:53 good grief lol....
Despite its issues the messerschmitt 262 was revolutionary in its design and it was the first ever jet fighter to see combat.
The P51 Mustangs were the only fighters to catch up with the ME 262,s and do a considerable amount of damage or destroy the M262 as they were slow in a climb just as the J87 Stukas were .
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