I'm pretty sure I didn't cover a lot stuff. Feel free to ask me any questions and also to check me live at www.twitch.tv/hozitojones I always read chat and answer questions there aswell :)
Great guide, thanks a lot! A couple of things I could add from my side: - you can use dispersion while being mounted and it won't dismount you. Not everyone knows this and it might save ya ass one day - in bgs dispersion synergizes well with nitro boots, you can pretty much escape whenever you need to - you can silence a DK to freecast a VT or a mind blast. DKs can't kick you when they're silenced - you can still use shackle undead and abolish disease while in shadowform since they're considered discipline spells - this might be a controversial opinion, but it's usually better to psychic horror someone offensively than defensively. If yer getting bladestormed just hit dispersion, don't waste your stun on trying to disarm a warrior when he can still kick or reflect your cast even when disarmed
Some good tips for new players, but not the last one, teaching people to not disarm bladestorm is making a support class not really supportive, they can remove a bladestorm for anyone nearby that is getting smacked in a bag or arena, if you just disperse you’re only stopping him killing you, good for duels though
@@vulse5904 Yeah, you're 100% right I should have added that this is a duel strategy or whenever the warrior is tunnel visioning you. Otherwise it might be good to disarm a bladestorm when your teammate is getting assrekt
A tip I have for cancelaura dispersion, is to make a macro on any spell but I personally have it on vampiric touch. This way you can always spam your dispersion without instantly going out, and you just press your VT for when you wanna get out. Also, you don't have to cast VT for the macro to cancelaura your disperse. It helps a ton imo
Great video! Here are also my niche contributions to the spriest pvp changes from tbc to wrath: - Silence has no gcd, you can now do a 360 psychic horror + silence to your offtargets in 3s if you're a Rambo - Silence and mind flay have their ranges bumped into 36 yards, you can now be more effective at longer ranges for example in 3s and 5s - R1 spells/buffing/dotting is not doable anymore, meaning you wont be able to lure your opponents into dispelling cheap dots. Also means you cant for example use r1 fear when fighting 3 or less opponents making the mana cost a bit more salty - VT/swp changes, both of them give mana now when dispelled if talented (which you prolly should), also VT gives a nice backlash TO THE TARGET, when dispelled, meaning a healer can accidentally blow their target up when dispelling them, opposed to unstable affliction, which applies its effects to the dispeller. - As mentioned, shadow weave now stacks on you, this hurts for debuff dispel protection, but gives as mentioned a nice dispel protection for yourself and also enables you to do better switches on targets, even more so as spriest seems to be more bursty in wotlk - VT mana regen mechanic changed (this is pretty huge in some combos). This means you can no longer be the mana batter for example to a shatterplay or in 5s caster cleave, so watch that mana. Ofc dispersion and buffed shadowfiend helps with this, but generally the rotation for mana sustain is not the same anymore! - Improved shadowform talent also enables you not to lose a lot of casting time when casting in shadowform. This means that you no longer have to track martydom in such a huge scale when fighting enemies and wanting to mind flay/mind blast them. Shadow priests are in a hugely great spot now throughout wrath since we are in patch 3.4.0. They were buffed during the whole wrath, including our dispersion cd, devouring plague rework etc. So have at it, once you go black you never go back! Cheers!
Can you maybe make an update of this guide ? But thanks a lot, and also maybe show us all the rotation spell dmg you use depending of the situation would be great. Thanks !
Where did the 4% hit number come from? I've seen 4, 5, and 6%... I don't unerstand. Our talents alone give our shadow spells 3% hit, + another talent gives 3% base hit.. so with just talents we're already at 6% hit, why do we need hit rating???
Hello, I just wanna know if you have BiS or like s7 if u should aim more on crit? I mean to change to Satin over Mooncloth and add some trinkets and rings for crit.
Feels a bit strange not to take crit damage in first season, but I will try to, it probably makes sence. And your English is perfect, I'm not native speaker myself, and I play with people all over the Europe. And I can say, for me it's much easier to understand you or some other not-native English speaker then some of my mates from Britain.
Come on Hozito, you're cheating us here. All of this info has been out for the last 12 years. We don't sub to the #1 priest to see if we should get haste or crit. Give us strategies. Tell us how YOU play against rogue/mage, dk/hpally, war/druid. Give us something we can't get from a google search.
Thanks for the guide I think it was great. Any final thoughts would be appreciated because I cannot choose my main. My buddy boosted a mage, and I have a lock at 70 currently but considering boosting a priest to 70. We could play MLS or MLD in 3s as lock but obviously shatterplay seems like so much fun. Do you have any pros / cons or final thoughts on choosing between destro lock and shadow priest as a main? for which would be more fun / learning curve etc
I think if you play warlock you gotta get used to have PET CONTROL. If your are bad managing your pet then lock is not your class. I feel Shadow Priest is easier in a way that you only have to worry how you manage your mana. Overall both classes are super strong in wrath and I would say just play what you enjoy the most.
How important is Improved Fort? Mainly play with rogue, feel like i need the mortal strike and faster MB cast time, do i drop the 2 points in Focused Mind?
I'm late af to this awesome video! I know you said S.Priest can play with pretty much anything but what is your opinion on specifically Warrior / S.priest / X? Like overall how high do you think you could push if you played it? Or should I just stick to my Affy / Destro Lock with the Warrior? Thanks man!
@@Hozitojones You're the man dude! It's hard to find any info sometimes so I get into these dilemmas with my self over which class to play sometimes and it drives me nuts so thanks for your response and keep up the content man, earned a sub! Cya around!
I'm struggling with so many keybinds, especially with all the arena target 1,2,3 for so many macros. Can you share your keybinds please? I'm trying to be as consistent as possible with shift and control modifiers but it's fairly chaotic.
thanks alot i have never played shadow and want to try it out im just struggling what a good opener is? i know it kinda depends on what you face but like a perfect situation on a 1 on 1 what would your rotation be?
try to always mind blast when u get ur vt off so u get the buff for regen mana and also try to don't spam dp that much cuz that will oom you super fast.
Hi hozi , since shadow priest stacks on haste > Cri , so our Cri usually less than 15% , and ppl's resilience will - 10% Cri chance ,as a result, the Cri chance only 5% , should i choose spirit instead cri for better mana regen?
@@Hozitojones i was think 【insightful Earthsiege Diamond 】for disc priest , so as a shadow priest , i should choose Insightful Earthsiege Diamond as well?
Here is a great shadowform/fade macro, two in one button and you wont use fade without shadowform anymore. #showtooltip Fade /cast [noform] !Shadowform /cast [form:1] Fade
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I'm pretty sure I didn't cover a lot stuff. Feel free to ask me any questions and also to check me live at www.twitch.tv/hozitojones I always read chat and answer questions there aswell :)
Great guide, thanks a lot! A couple of things I could add from my side:
- you can use dispersion while being mounted and it won't dismount you. Not everyone knows this and it might save ya ass one day
- in bgs dispersion synergizes well with nitro boots, you can pretty much escape whenever you need to
- you can silence a DK to freecast a VT or a mind blast. DKs can't kick you when they're silenced
- you can still use shackle undead and abolish disease while in shadowform since they're considered discipline spells
- this might be a controversial opinion, but it's usually better to psychic horror someone offensively than defensively. If yer getting bladestormed just hit dispersion, don't waste your stun on trying to disarm a warrior when he can still kick or reflect your cast even when disarmed
ty :)
Some good tips for new players, but not the last one, teaching people to not disarm bladestorm is making a support class not really supportive, they can remove a bladestorm for anyone nearby that is getting smacked in a bag or arena, if you just disperse you’re only stopping him killing you, good for duels though
@@vulse5904 Yeah, you're 100% right I should have added that this is a duel strategy or whenever the warrior is tunnel visioning you. Otherwise it might be good to disarm a bladestorm when your teammate is getting assrekt
Thanks for the guide! A review of your UI would be awesome! Thanks for all of the help.
Hey dude, great job on the guide!
Your english was absolutely fine, and as a new Spriest, this stuff was super helpful :)
Well done!
Glad to hear that!
A tip I have for cancelaura dispersion, is to make a macro on any spell but I personally have it on vampiric touch. This way you can always spam your dispersion without instantly going out, and you just press your VT for when you wanna get out. Also, you don't have to cast VT for the macro to cancelaura your disperse. It helps a ton imo
@Hozitojones Hi, what addons are you using?
Literally been looking all over for a decent guide heading into wrath. They are few and far between. This one came just in time. Absolute legend. ❤
Thank you a lot, mate. Gl in Wrath!
I already ask for it, but, can you do a shadow priest duel guide? there are no videos about it D:
Great guide
Great video! Here are also my niche contributions to the spriest pvp changes from tbc to wrath:
- Silence has no gcd, you can now do a 360 psychic horror + silence to your offtargets in 3s if you're a Rambo
- Silence and mind flay have their ranges bumped into 36 yards, you can now be more effective at longer ranges for example in 3s and 5s
- R1 spells/buffing/dotting is not doable anymore, meaning you wont be able to lure your opponents into dispelling cheap dots. Also means you cant for example use r1 fear when fighting 3 or less opponents making the mana cost a bit more salty
- VT/swp changes, both of them give mana now when dispelled if talented (which you prolly should), also VT gives a nice backlash TO THE TARGET, when dispelled, meaning a healer can accidentally blow their target up when dispelling them, opposed to unstable affliction, which applies its effects to the dispeller.
- As mentioned, shadow weave now stacks on you, this hurts for debuff dispel protection, but gives as mentioned a nice dispel protection for yourself and also enables you to do better switches on targets, even more so as spriest seems to be more bursty in wotlk
- VT mana regen mechanic changed (this is pretty huge in some combos). This means you can no longer be the mana batter for example to a shatterplay or in 5s caster cleave, so watch that mana. Ofc dispersion and buffed shadowfiend helps with this, but generally the rotation for mana sustain is not the same anymore!
- Improved shadowform talent also enables you not to lose a lot of casting time when casting in shadowform. This means that you no longer have to track martydom in such a huge scale when fighting enemies and wanting to mind flay/mind blast them.
Shadow priests are in a hugely great spot now throughout wrath since we are in patch 3.4.0. They were buffed during the whole wrath, including our dispersion cd, devouring plague rework etc. So have at it, once you go black you never go back!
Cheers!
cheers m8
Yo been waiting on this one thank you King!! 🙏
You're doing great my little man 🥰
Brooo really cool of you to do this. Cheers
Can you maybe make an update of this guide ? But thanks a lot, and also maybe show us all the rotation spell dmg you use depending of the situation would be great. Thanks !
Youreee the besttt Hozito ❤️❤️❤️man of the ppl
Where did the 4% hit number come from? I've seen 4, 5, and 6%... I don't unerstand. Our talents alone give our shadow spells 3% hit, + another talent gives 3% base hit.. so with just talents we're already at 6% hit, why do we need hit rating???
Hello, I just wanna know if you have BiS or like s7 if u should aim more on crit? I mean to change to Satin over Mooncloth and add some trinkets and rings for crit.
Think might be only worth if u play spr in 2v2
@@Hozitojones thank you for your answer Hozi
Can you do a ui/addon vid? I like how yours is set up. I'm sure other people are interested as well.
Feels a bit strange not to take crit damage in first season, but I will try to, it probably makes sence.
And your English is perfect, I'm not native speaker myself, and I play with people all over the Europe. And I can say, for me it's much easier to understand you or some other not-native English speaker then some of my mates from Britain.
Thanks Hozito! Learned a lot. Btw you should know your English is not as bad as you seem to maybe think. I understood every word
My man! Ty for the content.
Mr hozito, the man, the myth, the legend
nice guide hoz
great shit man! thx for the guide
Hey great video man, just one question, i cant get any pve weap getting really unlucky, would u recommand i go the mp5 Deadly weap or crit one ?
mp5 prob
What addon are u using for the party frames? Kinda looks like Grid2 or default wow raid frames.
Riizui
Come on Hozito, you're cheating us here. All of this info has been out for the last 12 years. We don't sub to the #1 priest to see if we should get haste or crit. Give us strategies. Tell us how YOU play against rogue/mage, dk/hpally, war/druid. Give us something we can't get from a google search.
I will work on that 🫡
Nibbia does those videos
@@christopherwoods9830 he does beginner 1v1 on Private
Well check guy "paradiso" if you want to see good strategy helped me alot
I'm wondering how your UI is there clean... Where are all ur spells?
Thanks for the guide I think it was great. Any final thoughts would be appreciated because I cannot choose my main. My buddy boosted a mage, and I have a lock at 70 currently but considering boosting a priest to 70. We could play MLS or MLD in 3s as lock but obviously shatterplay seems like so much fun. Do you have any pros / cons or final thoughts on choosing between destro lock and shadow priest as a main? for which would be more fun / learning curve etc
I think if you play warlock you gotta get used to have PET CONTROL. If your are bad managing your pet then lock is not your class.
I feel Shadow Priest is easier in a way that you only have to worry how you manage your mana. Overall both classes are super strong in wrath and I would say just play what you enjoy the most.
@@Hozitojones very helpful response thank you!
Great guide brother
-Samboi
Hey. I noticed that you didn't mention spell pen in your gearing. Do you need 130 pen as playing shadow ?
yes 130 is what u need :)
How important is Improved Fort? Mainly play with rogue, feel like i need the mortal strike and faster MB cast time, do i drop the 2 points in Focused Mind?
not that big tbh you can prob use those 2 points on improve power word shield and if u play with a rogue don't think u need mind blast talent tho
When you think resto Druid sp sub(?) rogue(not sure if assa is better early) what’s your thoughts on the comp?
don't think rdruid sp can work would struggle to kill against dps healer.
Sp rogue is SO GOOD
I'm late af to this awesome video! I know you said S.Priest can play with pretty much anything but what is your opinion on specifically Warrior / S.priest / X? Like overall how high do you think you could push if you played it?
Or should I just stick to my Affy / Destro Lock with the Warrior?
Thanks man!
Haven't try to play sp warr x but I'm pretty sure u can do pretty decent with it since warrios pump so hard, have ms and peels as well
@@Hozitojones You're the man dude! It's hard to find any info sometimes so I get into these dilemmas with my self over which class to play sometimes and it drives me nuts so thanks for your response and keep up the content man, earned a sub! Cya around!
I'm struggling with so many keybinds, especially with all the arena target 1,2,3 for so many macros. Can you share your keybinds please? I'm trying to be as consistent as possible with shift and control modifiers but it's fairly chaotic.
might do a video for it!
Would you still recommend mooncloth if I'm only going to be playing spriest/ rogue 2s?
yes
thanks alot i have never played shadow and want to try it out im just struggling what a good opener is? i know it kinda depends on what you face but like a perfect situation on a 1 on 1 what would your rotation be?
shadow word pain
(dispel buffs that r important)
vt
dp
mind blast
sw
mindflay :P
Awsome!! thanks so much, do u think Ele is strong in Wotlk?
Ele is one of the strongest casters and fun to play ya :D
if you get the shadow word glyph and cast it on 3 players you can have a 3% mana regen every time it ticks
ya but it's not worth imo
Sorry did I missunderstand you or did you say you dont know how much hit the shadow needs and your are not sure about it and the talents?
U need to aim 4% hit for dispel magic and if possible over cap it cuz of blood elf rogues so somthing around 5% ish should be good
bless you hozi
JUST IN TIME!!
it was a good guide ty mate !
:)
What Sw:D Macro do u use? If you have a Mate target or something? Or do you just Target and then Sw:D?
For Swd cc I use:
#showtooltip Shadow Word: Death
/stopcasting
/cast [@target,harm] Shadow Word: Death
/stopmacro[@harm]
/targetenemy
@@Hozitojones Nice ty :)
ty for the guide. How do you manage mana? i go oom in 1-2 minute
try to always mind blast when u get ur vt off so u get the buff for regen mana and also try to don't spam dp that much cuz that will oom you super fast.
This video owns bro
Great Guide! I recommend tryn some sp/dk its rly fun and decent.
Hi hozi , since shadow priest stacks on haste > Cri , so our Cri usually less than 15% , and ppl's resilience will - 10% Cri chance ,as a result, the Cri chance only 5% , should i choose spirit instead cri for better mana regen?
YES
@@Hozitojones thank you sir!
Hi hozi , which meta should i choose for arena?
the [Insightful Earthsiege Diamond]
@@Hozitojones i was think 【insightful Earthsiege Diamond 】for disc priest , so as a shadow priest , i should choose Insightful Earthsiege Diamond as well?
@@shifting766 yes :)
@@Hozitojones thx alot :D
How come his Vampiric touch applies Shadow word pain? :o sry new to sp
it does not, only mind flay replys current Swp
ah ok, so you start the rotation with vampiric touch and then shadow word pain instantly after
Can you show us your adonns? Like healthbars, spellbars and etc. Thank you :)
this are the addons that I use : pastebin.com/xZhSM4c8
How I have them set up u can always come ask me when i am live and i can show you :)
@@Hozitojones Thank you Hozi!
I need this UI hozito, this UI is tier S for a priest
No points in Martyrdom?
its bad in wotlk
in video u ahve 4% hit is that the cap?
vamos hozitooooo
guapo
Only problem with SP is mana issues and i realy hope they improve it!
ya u need to run a lot of mp5 gear!
Bro can you pump us a new shprt version of diffs now? And the final last season to pump woud be awesome to ger some input
Bummer. I already bought 4 set savage satin with dominance titan forged helm. Rippppp
sadge
THANK YOU , do you realize how hard it was to find a decent guide on SP?
not sure :D
Shadow word: death can get you out of polymorf and other CC if you cast it justo barely before enemy finish the cast.
Y but not with shield on u, its buggy i think atm
u can sw cc with shield up :P
@@Hozitojones evolved showed a clip that it doesnt go off always
@@erikrichter6855 weird haven't happen to me
Put a cacelaura PW:s in the SW:D macro Problem solved
hey best professions?
Engi and JC is what most of people are going for.
idk if mage or sp. cant decide. good video tho
sp is fun :)
noice
Here is a great shadowform/fade macro, two in one button and you wont use fade without shadowform anymore.
#showtooltip Fade
/cast [noform] !Shadowform
/cast [form:1] Fade
Everyone recomending troll priest as the best choice but all are playing undead :D