Does J. Cole's Apology Take Him Out Of The Conversation Of Being "The One" Of This Generation?
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- Опубликовано: 8 апр 2024
- Ebro in the Morning continues the discussion and reactions of J. Cole's apology during Dreamville Fest following his diss track "7 Minute Drill" released on Friday.
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J Cole just committed Hip Hop blasphemy.
It's rap people stop acting like it the end of the world jcoles is a grown man he was always quite and out of the way jcole is still the 1.and kdot is the 1
@@debragreen7428nah Kdot is top 2 not 2
@@debragreen7428What you're doing right now is called coping
He really did
His going to hip hop hell for this
Rosenberg doesn’t understand that two things can be true simultaneously in this case. You can respect Cole for being genuine to his feelings, while still acknowledging that he can no longer rap greasy about being the best without proving it.
Competitive Rap is a sport. J Cole lost because he started to play the game, then took his ball and went home.
Cole was playing poker and folded before the cards were even dealt 😭💀
Wrong he played a whole card with an diss and album
Damn, he really did tho
🤣🤣 great analogy
Took his ball 🙆🏼♂️ LOL
Cole can’t say I’m Muhammad Ali anymore
Muhammad was not the goat of boxing. Do your homework, and Cole has more money and is more successful then both you and I. I don’t think he care about your opinion.
Cole didn’t say he’s Muhammad Ali
He said he feels like Muhammad Ali
@@shady6152okay
@@shady6152 jcole "caring about his opinion" isn't the topic of discussion. stop moving the goal post. MJ discussions are still being had till today
Muhammad Ali didn't go to war🤷🏾♂️ so technically he is Ali.
Rosenberg sounds like a goober
they both do
Been
This is why Rosen is not at the cookout
That part!👆🏾
Them niggas not saying Tupac was a 1 disqualified all of them
Facts 💯👌🏾
🗣️💯 on folk
Facts
When Rosenberg speaks you see how hip-hop was infiltrated 😅😅 feelings are at a all time high
Thank you.
Soft era we live in
Rosenberg complained that everyone on his timeline was telling him how hip hop works, only to come to work where everyone told him how hip hop works. 😂
On God ! 😂
How could you be an expert on something and not be an expert on same thing ??? Make it make sense.
Rosenberg been wilfully ignorant or got to be trolling.
PIN
this is what happens when ppl allow u to think ur a "part" of something just becuz u "love" it .. 🙄
LMFAO
His last name gave that away.
ANYTHING in life, if you say youre the best at something, you will be tested. PERIOD. If i say im the best wedding cake maker, someone will challenge that. WTF is rosenberg talking about?!
Big Facts
facccts. J.cole could've fired on some lyrical stuff if he's really nice with the mic. rappers are wordsmiths find a way. Rosenberg is a goofy
lol You can find 250 bakeries in your city that will say they make the best wedding cake. They can all co-exist and feed their families without throwing dirt on each other. 😅
I immediately felt the need to challenge your 🎂 👰 🤵 🍽 and I do not even like cake that much. LOL
@nameisamine this is true, but, if you make the claim that you are the BEST in town at it, you're gonna be challenged on it.
If Drake ever done that , the backlash will be crazy
The backlash is crazy now!
I don't even wanna look at cole rn
Drake still hasn't responded properly to Pusha T. He'll, he hasn't responded to Kendrick!
he copped out the pusha T beef don’t do that
@@ralphthompson355 Drake fans and Stan's always stuff his L 's under rug man, and do what LeBron fans do and say if so and so happened to LeBron everyone would go crazy😂😂... The world's logic has been crazy since 2012 dawg
Just because you feel sorry for him don’t mean we gotta let him off the hook
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Imagine tupac apoligizing for hit em up or ice cube for no vaseline 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I feel like Rosenberg is showing no matter how many years you spend in and around the genre, some things will forever get lost in translation if you’re soft or white…let alone both
Damn
That part!👆🏾
That's deep, he shouldn't have a saying in this matter since he clearly don't respect the genre enough and being white might be the reason.
No joke, it just ain't in him, these light skins 🤦🤦🤦
Exactly!
I"m praying Rosenberg is playing dumb for the sake of playing devil's adovcate, ain't no f**king way he's this clueless...
people who talk like that are so corny....
He's not
Bro up there for a check
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Do you know he is a yt uninvited guest to hip hop culture?
This is why Rosenberg is not truly of the culture... he's serious on his stance, he's not playing dumb. He literally doesn't understand the culture.
lol. Damn.
he "loves" the culture, he isn't a "part" of it & it shows
He is white.
Rosenberg proved that he’s a visitor
Culture Vulture
A guest
An uninvited, and unwanted visitor
Battling is not toxic. It's the extra stuff that ppl add to the mix that makes it toxic.
My thing is like… how many battles didn’t end up toxic?
I think that’s where I get why Cole did what he did. If what he already said didn’t sit right with him to talk that away about a friend/ respected peer… chances are it was only gunnu get more toxic each round.
I was super disappointed but I get it. I kinda agree he can’t be the one anymore, but at the same time… I feel like doing more stuff like Black Friday could be a good replacement to dissing each other.
@@BlakeZebLL and Canibus didn’t go beyond lyrics.. Every other back and forth I can think of was toxic before the records.
There will always be a conqueror and conquered.
Yeah but let’s not act like Kendrick is Mr. Toxic himself. That’s his whole mantra
Didnt ll get canibus blacklisted though?@@aboutdadlife1432
I respect Cole as a human being for what he did he kept it a bean… but at the same time this is hip-hop man we don’t want no apologies, KDot don’t care about friends and picking sides. He came to rap and you clearly didn’t….
I hate the fact that Rosenberg keeps pushing this narrative and acting like he doesn’t know how tf Hip Hop works. Dudes like him is the problem with Hip Hop.
Culture vultures will never understand
@@uncardedreviews9721em a vulture but he understands
Funny part is dudes like him *named/coined* the name "Hip-Hop" because that term definitely didn't come from the original culture. So from that perspective culture vultures are as *"Hip-Hop"* as the term it self. *IYKYK*
Thank you. He up there playin stupid like he don’t know how hip hop works.
@@phettywappharmaceuticalsll884290 percent of hip hop is culture vultures. Hip hop ain’t black culture.
Rosenberg trying to say there’s never been a “1” is crazy.
J. Cole just threw his perfectly good career into the toilet, for no logical/rational reasons
exactly lmao, will never be seen as a goat of his era. i’ll take big sean over him
He’s always been underwhelming to me. His weakness just finally manifested itself for everyone to see
Ya'll slide with the flavor of the month like tears from a female.
@@imiparerau432 we been saying cole washed since 2011. he been a bum
@@iMoha46 CAP
The one doesn’t talk about a big 3. The one doesn’t act like he’s just happy to be among the top 3. The one won’t settle for anything less than being number one.
Damn, Roseburg is DEEP in his cornball bag and playing stupid on hip hop of all things... Just imagine it was Drake instead of Cole, what do ya think Rosenburg would say....
Facts if this was anyone else you know they would be slammed
He should just give his take on pop rap or something smh
"cornball bag" 😂😂😂😂
Kendrick already spoke on this
“I remember you was conflicted, misusing your influence “.
I definitely don't want to hear no more im the best talk. Just rap about not liking designer clothes.
right now I don't want to hear it... you are right. But he still might actually be the current best. He's going to have to find a way to renege on that apology. Even though he's going to look like a hypocrite in the process. But we all thought Drake wouldn't recover from ghostwriting rumors, but here we are awaiting his response now. That seems like such a distant memory now. Cole's mis-step isn't nearly as scandalous. At least he actually responded. It's not like he got washed. Just did something ridiculously stupid.
@@fryeguy115he can’t be
He can still say im best in his songs, just based on his rapping skills and financial success and money alone, as thats what most successful rappers who are considered goats do anyway, as Jay z, Lil Wayne, Drake etc have all done that as well.
J fold about to rap about climate change and women empowerment now
DJ Kastone is the only one there speaking facts and the only one who knows the Hiphop rules and they never let him speak 🤷🏽♂️
Factss everyone else is soft and giving J Cole a pass. This is why this is the weakest decade in hiphop!
Kastone was spitting facts on yesterday’s J Cole apology video and Ebro kept cutting him off there too. It’s like they want Hiphop to stay pop 🤦🏽♂️
@@Fiendy stay pop & ultrasoft
@@Fiendyfacts 🎯
3mins In and Rosenberg on some bullshit. Don't matter if there is a one or not. The point is he been standing on his ground as one of the best in the game and got tested and copt out like a bitch.
it crazy how people are trying to change the rules of Hip Hop or suddenly ignorant of the rules of Hip Hop after 50 yrs
Can’t believe they allowed him to hijack the situation while acting like he doesn’t understand what people are upset about
rossburger so soft
And what did being “hardcore” get Tupac in the end 🤷🏾♂️
AF 💯💯💯
Very soft
@@blackwealthpower7877 We're talking about rap, bozo. Not the streets.
@@blackwealthpower7877Cole punchin on gang members in Vegas? or he rappin against a rapper in the name of pure competition?! you Cole fans just as cotton soft as him 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💀💀
How they always leave out pac is disrespectful
well Kendrick Lamar is who I relate too so much more.
Always. That is why no one hardly listens to them now.
Bro what dat got to do with him naming jay big Nas and other rappers as number 1 but leave out pac
@@MrsSmith-cs7li they hate pac its sickening
pac is on the all time list. I think this convo is about the modern day big three
it’s always people not from hiphop saying “who made that rule”
somebody you don’t know cuz YOU WEREN’T THERE
Let me give a sports analogy. If Jordan (in his prime) said "I'm #1" and decided to sit out every time he played against Bird, Magic, Isiah, etc he would be disqualified. Cant say you're number 1 if don't compete when challenged. Cole is great but this disqualifies him and will follow him forever. Everytime he jumps on a record and says "I'm number 1" or "I'm the greatest" he will get clowned by majority of hip hop fans. It's all good that he regrets it and he doesn't want to go back and forth and have friendly competition but that #1 talk he's been doing, he should probably cut it out. Say you are just one of the nicest and leave it at that
J. Cole the type to go to the gym with full boxing gear, EVERY DAY, braggin about being the best fighter & how no one can whoop him …then he gets punched in the chest by the quiet guy in that gym & goes “i cant do this. my soul is heavy. i respect your striking abilities & i hope you dont feel a way about my previous remarks ..” then walks away with his head down
😂😂😂
Well if you’re sticking with the boxing analogy, he claimed he was ALI so it’s not a stretch 😂
Copying comments for likes is just as bad, bro.
@@Hooperd2023 this is my comment. you seem like the type to get ignored, so you hate seein ppl get acknowledged 😂💀 go tag the person i took my comment from
@@JaeThaGemini so commenting it on other videos isn’t corny? You should apologize, too.
I’m the furtherest thing from a Drake fan but if he did this there’d be no “evolution of hip hop” talk we clowned Drake for going on the shop asking for Bron’s forgiveness, rightfully so.
Exactly. If Drake ever did this Rosenberg would never let him live it down.
Drake aint better than Kendrick an cole anyways so he dont matter
@@hybrid1339Drake ain't never apologized for a beef he didn't start. J. FOLD lost all his credibility.
"Favourite rapper neck in a noose. Never letting 'em loose."
You CAN NOT be exuding this type of energy & when a worthy challenger lays down the gauntlet, you concede?! No.
Kendrick K.I.N.G. there can be no question now. Although I have a strong inclination to believe that NY cats aren't ever going to be cool with giving those props to a West Coast Native.
Their bias is plain to see & everyone knows Cole got NY stamps so naturally....
So biggie not responding to Hit em Up automatically disqualifies him as the one
…but he responded in the dopest way possible…Listen carefully to life after death
@@johnnyfnblazeSubliminally...that doesn't count once someone comes at you directly
There is a reason why Tupac is still the single most revered rapper ever.
@johnnyfnblaze anything subliminal after hit em up is ludicrous the only people who stood up for new york was mobb Deepp .
Correct. Tupac was better than Biggie
Rosenberg is a white kid from the suburbs, he can listen to all the underground raps he wants, he will never understand Hip Hop.
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He knows more about Hip Hop then MOST black people 🤷🏾♂️
@@blackwealthpower7877the you’re white so youll never understand hip hop argument is so stupid I swear
@@diddy2612it’s more true than you ever know tho.
@@blackwealthpower7877as an industry maybe, but not as a culture
I think J Cole should have said he didn't want to directly feud but challenge Kendrick to make a song together as brothers but he would out rap him. If he said something like that then I think it would have been a good strategy for him.
Ebro said my feelings exactly: Cole shoulda put as much into his diss as he put into his apology. He truly just undercooked his cut of the beef.
Rosenberg should never comment on hip hop again…and then when they prove his point wrong his stance is to get all condescending with “made up rules” like fam…you been around too long to take that stance…I hate how therapy culture has dulled the competition aspect of the genre
He just like the rest. Vlad. Adam.
This is what happens when you allow culture vultures to have a seat at the table and a voice in the conversation. All of these dudes are the ones who got picked last for kick ball, or not at all
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Every time i try to defend Rosenberg he shows me why I shouldn’t ever try to do that
The fact Rosenberg respects j. Cole after that proves he shouldn't have the privilege to sit and talk his opinion about hip hop. Definitely lost respect from me
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Facts
Facts
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Huge facts!
Agreed.
Lol people emotional
K Dot did say...Sit down, be Humble...he predicted the future..😂
He isn't disqualified from everything he just cannot get above third place in his era now.....
I could swear this is what I hear whenever I pass a bunch of chickens.. I never thought the day would come where apologizing for friendly competition, something we have seen in every aspect of life even between writers, is considered "bold"..
Sad part is the people defending Cole saying he chose peace & God are probably the goofiest people on the planet. Kendrick's verse was hard but not personal, he didn't bring up anyone's baby mama, family, relationships nothing lol. Kendrick has never been nasty with rap competition. Even Kdot on his control verse said "i got love for all of you" Rosenburg is weird bro lol Pusha T arguably went too far but Kdot just gave them a nice jab to the ribs but this is what happens when you mess with the Gemini gang. Prince & Kendrick 🤣
The only thing I can say about Cole is he had a point about Kendrick being passed his prime. Mr morale was Kendrick’s lowest selling and lowest reviewed album. Only sold 20k more than Cole’s The Off Season. Kendrick’s best work was his old work. Cole could’ve just dropped a classic and ignored the beef
@@king_vision4085 didnt kendrick get album of the year song of the year at the grammys and is also rated higher than any cole project hes ever put out sounds like coles prime isnt even as good as kendricks worst lol
@@tehronmoment1367and none of that proves Cole’s point wrong. It’s still Kendrick’s weakest album. Weakest selling. And weakest reviewed. None of what you said changes the fact that Kendrick is passed his prime. If the Fall Off is a classic it proves Cole’s still in his prime. He should’ve just ignored the beef and dropped the fall off and address it on there
@@tehronmoment1367also Macklemore won a Grammy over Kendrick. That’s not a good argument
@@king_vision4085Cole is already failling off lol. He shot himself in the foot
Anita Baker should've been playing in the background when he apologized 😂😂😅
Unrelated, but “I apologize” will bring tears to a mfs eyes bro. 🤣🤣
Man, J. Cole has been saying in his lyrics for the last three years. Ask him what has happened to hip-hop and competition in real hip-hop and then he goes off makes a diss track towards Kendrick Lamar and then apologizes. J. Cole you just gave the reason what is wrong with hip-hop and what is happening to real MC‘s and real competition. I love J. Cole as an artist, and as a rapper at the end of the day, but Stop saying you’re the best because you just bow out and also you’ve been asking in your lyrics for the last 2-3 years what has happened to hip-hop competition. Those are in his lyrics.
I want to hear Busta Rhymes, Kendrick Lamar, and Jcole on a record together. THE REAL BIG 3 😂🎉☝🏿🔥🎶
Hey busta rhymes. 😂 nice try. You not even top 10 my dude. What’s your last hit? Not on anyone’s else album?
@@user-hm6od4gt3s bro like 50
@@user-hm6od4gt3s ?? Weird comment but okay
Nah I would take Wayne over Cole anyday..Cole just need to rap about flowers, woman and non violence now😂ain't nothing wrong with that tho
Rosenberg is on one. It’s called battle rap 🤷🏾♂️
Kendrick didn’t have a problem with Cole saying he was the best until he linked up with Drake. Cole been saying “only man above me is God himself, all these other niggaz is below me” since Forbidden Fruit in 2013”. He did it again on Forrest Hills and Kendrick never approached him. What we have to acknowledge is there’s a dynamic we have to pay attention to which is Cole being stuck in the middle of two of his friends that have real tension between them. Him clapping back at Kendrick (with the Energy sample) makes it look like he chose sides. That extends well beyond just friendly competition.
Thats very true, but i cant front if i was cole i still would have kept going because if him and Kendrick really cool, then he didnt need to apologize and if they really cool then they would still be cool afterwards...maybe cole should have found out if Kendrick was going at him or drake first because then he could have just sat out instead of responding in the first place
The irony that the next album is titled, The Fall Off. Jermaine has fallen de f-ck off after that apology smh
I still love cole but it definitely take him out the big 3 if you don't want to compete for number 1 then u can't be top 3. Still one of the best of his generation though
Lmao there is no big 3 it’s just Jcole and Kendrick Lamar top lyricist in the last 2 decades and busta rhymes
Lmao 🤣 you people and your made up hip hop rules lmao, j cole is in the top 3 just for his rapping skills and financial success alone.
@@iraford5788 Rosenberg that you?
exactly how I feel. Cole you can keep doing your thing, but tone the bravado in them raps down my guy. you can't speak like that when you behave pus$$7
@@goldsphinix j.cole still in the big 3 so stay salty mad my dude lmao 🤣.
J Cole, who was mad about getting the bronze thrown at him, just willingly accepted the bronze.
Also Rosenberg needs to shut up when black people are trying to teach him something
Just another yt man acting like he knows everything
Absolutely. You can’t backtrack on a song you released 4 days ago and have it not hurt your career. Thats a different kind of L that artists don’t go through.
Cole shouldnt have responded based on peer pressure. He shouldve responded when HE felt comfortable to respond. That Kendrick verse was mostly about Drake anyways.
See thats what im wondering if cole didnt realize it til after he made his own diss..because i didnt feel like kendrick was really going at j cole anyways...damn he slipped up bad...he should have waited
I swear to God on everything I love Hot 97 is the CNN of hip hop
Going back to Jodeci Freestyle - Drake ft J cole, Drake: "Oh stop, please stop arguing about who's the best MC, I think everyone would agree they know that you're not." This goes to the there isn't a number one. Maybe, but we can say for sure its not cole.
As an independent artist as someone who loves hip-hop, and has been a fan since MC Hammer…
What J. Cole did was like somebody punching you and then you hit them back and apologize for hitting them back …
Hip-hop was born in the streets… it’s truly about being the best and true to what you’re talking about!
Apologizing to a rapper that attacked him first, when all he talks about is being the best rapper and daring someone to test him; then when it happens he bows out… that’s a contradiction in itself.
The Thing about hip-hop, once you lose credibility ain’t no getting it back
J Cole really just proved how much acting is going on in Rap Music…
Seeing people getting so triggered over this is hilarious but y’all be the same ones complaining about drill rappers taking their diss tracks too far y’all picking and choosing now when it comes to rap beef lol 😂
We can't control the outcome of rap beefs...but the rules still and always will apply
I'm with Cass 1....I'm looking at Rosenberg right now like....."I never thought I'd see the day..." 🤦🏽♂️ 🤦🏽♂️
Imagine apologizing to the dude who said your discography is a light pack. Then you expect people to still see you as the best. It's impossible to recover from that.
To be fair I don’t think he said he expects people to view him as the best still.
I’m really curious how the fall off is gunnu look now.
Light pack was for Drake though. It was lined up with the Mike Jack shot.
We’re not about to go back and forth with a Rosenberg about OUR hip hop! Our culture! All of a sudden we want to baby Cole just bc he took the cop out! When the last time Cole and Kendrick spoke? They’re not “friends”! Now this is Cole’s job and when you’re called to do your job, your boss expects you to show up?! There are no exceptions or you’re fired. Why is there an exception here? Put those feelings aside and do your job bc no one told cole to jump out there.
He’s disqualified for being the greatest bc he has not defended his title…the man tucked his tail before KL could even finish listening to the diss 😆.
As an emcee when your skills and position are questioned or you are called out by someone as good if not better than you. You defend yourself, stand your ground, strike back, prove your lyrical superiority, and compete. This is the way that Hip Hop culture has always worked, why are we now moving the goalposts because modern rappers are overly sensitive?
Right
I’m convinced these ppl are just contrarians or on pay roll bc bro, we can respect him being honest with himself, but if you’re unwilling to defend what you say about yourself, I can’t take you seriously as an emcee. Only positive folding clothes bars from here
J Cole predicted his own demise with his last album title “The Fall Off”.
He also did it with his new project “Might Delete Later”
THANK YOU EBRO. Perfect take
Imagine Jordan showing up to the finals and apologizing to the other team and leaving the game smh.
Some people just got that killer mentality. Cole hasn't lol
Rosenberg’s argument is so dumb. J Cole wouldn’t have apologized if his response was good and people liked it. he made up a sorry excuse for that sorry ass response and people are mad about that and how it’s being framed
Out of all the things said about j Cole right now, I think this is the only one I genuinely disagree with.
Enough people were hyping up the diss that I don’t think this is the reason. I think he was genuine about why he takes it back.
Stop the fucking CAP in hiphop if u say I'm the best... if Jesus ask for a feature I'm going to hell and then when they test him he ducks it?! Yea he can't talk like that again! Still a great artist but he left the competition.
This is certainly the most nuanced discussion on the topic. Thank you for this. Very fair on both sides. He made a mistake, and i do agree itd be best if Cole just laid back and said "Nah, I'm not pickin a side, I'm cool with both of you." But hindsight is 20/20 at the end of the day.
What if this is all part of his roll out for The Fall Off?🤔
He might be able to play into it somehow
I was thinking the same thing because, it's called " Might Delete Later " and that diss record is something he wants to " Delete Later "
am praying it is
@Shadybiglpac I think with the off-season he came back and stepped into a different lane forgot that he's more of Andre 3k than Nas. He's still one of the best but his style never required him to prove it.
Reach
Lol, Cole has made a prefect conundrum...
You can't be Thee #1 in hiphop if you don't battle. There is certainly a lane for him, but he can't be Thee #1
This conversation makes me want to listen to Ebro more. Great job. This is a hip hop conversation.
Imagine Muhammad Ali calling himself "The Greatest" and all that trash talking he was renowned for - only for fold once he was challenged.
Yeah but instead he defeated Liston and screamed "I shook up the world! I'm a baaad man!"
@@GoGetYourShinebox facts!
Rose just told me he don’t know hip hop. I kinda already knew but this confirmed it
Salute to Ebro! His ability to break this down for the people that want to act clueless, like Rosenberg, is necessary in the culture.
Thanks Ebro all the rest of the guys for holding the culture down!!!! 💯💯💯💯
I MEAN, HE DID SAY “MIGHT DELETE LATER” SO NO ONE SHOULD BE UPSET. AT ALL
Naw...stand on business...stand behind your work
You know damn well that title isn't literally saying the same thing as what he ended up doing.
Yes. It takes him out. Period.
How u gone call him the one after that? He basically handed the crown to kendrick 😂
J Fold is done. Y’all old asses clearly haven’t learned nothing about the new school.
3 reasons you can't disqualify drake
1.) he defends himself when challenged. Drake is sooo petty. He's been in the ring 3 times. Drake still has issues with so many rappers. He makes a song about dogs, says one slick line about Future and moves on. Drake been talking slick to kendrick for the past 6 years.
2.) This whole thing is because of Drake. People linking up choosing sides. This whole thing circulates around Drake. He is the main character.
3.) When it comes to hip-hop it's Drake, kendrick and Cole. When it comes to music overall it's Beyonce, Taylor Swift and Drake.
Thats why you can't disqualify Drake.
1. Lived a privileged life.
2. Confirmed Ghostwriter
3 Jewi$$h privilege
4. More of a pop star
Stop the nonsense
Amen Drake has been grooming J Cole for this since Middle Child
Drraaaaake?
Drake is a Pop Star
@@pridemyselfwithnontrolling5230just remove 3. Then it's all good points.
I understand they hate Drake, but to say he never made an important record is an extreme reach.
God's Plan! 🙏🙏
Name one besides GODs plan and without feature help😂
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Its annoying how these ppl keep moving the goalpost as if J cole wasn't himself declaring to be THAT GUY. Rosenberg is wrong af there have been many #1s In hip hop he sounds stupid as hell.
I appreciate the nuance in Ebro’s breakdown of this situation.
Anyone with ghostwriters can't even be considered for a spot in the rankings. Sorry Drake.
Thats what i keep saying, they still mentioning drake like he in the mix when he been disqualified as they put it
@@hybrid1339 Only rapper mentioned among the best rappers that can't write a rap for himself. It's mind boggling.
I think the beautiful thing about it is that J.Cole has a family at home, a fan base and other rap artists that's going to love him regardless. Despite all the hate he is about to receive by people online that doesn't really matter. Apologize now, sleep well later. ✊🏽ColeWorld
That's the bigger picture. Hip-Hop was created by literal teenagers and no one ever expected people in their 30s and late 40s to be the leaders of the culture ("You're 38 and you still rappin', Ugh!" - The Game). We're still playing by High School rules and peer pressure and it would have been much easier for Cole to just play along.... but he's standing on his own principles. I respect the hell out of that, but the majority of the people won't tbh. Why stress yourself out, to appease people that would easily cast you aside as some of his "fans" are doing?
MillionaireHoyOriginal The people shitting on him the most is he's fans, its wild!🤣
@@MillionaireHoyOriginal He's part of a competitive sport, there is no high school or peer pressure, there is just the sport. He even engaged himself, now he's all about peace? Saving face smh
@@Dezzyyx Side-note for semantics: Rap lacks the physical component required to be considered a "sport". It's NOT a sport, it is an artform. With that being said, I'll take what you're saying as "rap is competitive." Call it "high school", "peer pressure", "barbershop talk", "social media" or whatever you want, Cole has expressed that he felt gassed to respond because of how it would have looked not to. Because rap is an artform, I understand how an artist can feel as though he's selling out, when he's pandering, catering to, or creating art that he himself doesn't agree with. As I stated earlier, it would have been easier for Cole (a person who writes raps for a living) to WRITE RAPS at Kendrick - he's definitely capable. It is much harder for him to go the road that he went, so I disagree that he's "saving face". Just my opinion and no disrespect intended.
@@JamesSmith-pc7vy Unfortunately, it's to be expected that some "fans" will turn on Cole. Unfortunately, Hip-hop is like a snake eating it's own tail. The "there can only be one king" mentality, or appeal to "out with the old, in with the new" or should I say what's "Fresh" or what's "Played Out" is why although Rap is the most popular genre in music, the artists are less paid and have shorter careers than the likes of Pop, Country or Rock artists, who have NEW fans for decades old music that support their concerts, merch, endeavors and brands overall. The Beatles and The Rolling Stones competed with each other, but they didn't go at each other's necks or diminish each other's brands. People can say that rap is a "competitive sport", but what it actually is is crabs in a barrel. Teenagers in New York created Hip-hop and now the mecca of Hip-hop has a small rap scene. Why? Because they competed and cities like Atlanta collaborated.
Seeing the misusing your influence quote in the comment section of the apology video is crushing.
Just reminder for context for this position, Rosenberg is a small hat. A small hat trying to dictate what rules are made up in hip hop is crazy work and y'all letting him slide. Vultures trying to say what hip hop is and isn't.
Rosenberg gotta cut it out. I get it’s for the sake of argument but come on bro 😒
Saying Drake never made an important record ever is a wild take.
Fr like wtf????
@@wavyent.musicvideos pick one, so far gone, nothing was the same, if you’re reading this, plenty to choose from.
No it isn't.
Drake has never talked about social issues.
@@strongbone9471social issues =/= importance
Drakes has been part of important records but he personally has never made them. Forever was such a situation
Great Convo
Rosenberg sound crazy as hell
Why must hip-hop be reduced to a toxic genre once you're not interested in rolling in the dirt or losing your life you're not great. I'm done
he's running at a solid 3 along with big sean right now ...
Future taking his spot tbh
Nah Cole is solid top 25 Big Sean ahead of him.
Cole, Big Sean and Meek
Nah like kendrick said its just big him no homo...
Big Sean over J Cole for now on
Ebro hit it right on the nail with this one
Why is Rosenberg acting like this? He popped out on FPS. Kendrick flexed on em. He folded. You telling me he would still be on level with or even above K Dot?! You crazy bro
Secondly, you asked who made the rules….the people do. People are poppin Coles bubble based on his actions.