The Most Unhinged Touhou Fanwork: Cookie☆

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  • Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
  • Touhou Project has a lot of fanworks, and when it comes to the race of influence, there can only be one first place: a fanwork so unhinged, so bad-yet-good, so "totally filled with a wacky community" that it has become taboo/infamous within the internet at large. How do you even accomplish that?? Ask the people who made Cookie☆ (and the Inmu community)!
    This was a long time coming -- I always wanted to cover this yet had no idea how. A certain special someone from Touhoufest influenced my choice to make it, yet could never figure out the best way to put it... I guess that's what Cookie does to you, hmm?! It's like a little talisman they put on your head as punishment -- watch Cookie while paying full attention.
    If you want me to do more Cookie (since there's a lot to it), I am open to doing it! You just gotta recommend me something, or idk. Anyway Cookie fans don't do any "funky" things to me xd
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Комментарии • 500

  • @Suwawako
    @Suwawako  Год назад +351

    I might get doxxed over this... DA ZE~⭐
    I hope you enjoy this new style of content. I think I actually like the end product because I... actually put some effort into it????????????????? (wow imagine that)
    I am seriously willing to cover more クッキー☆ content, since there is Taisa (Cookie ☆☆) and Atouda Ako's (Kusso☆) series that are worth mentioning (among literally hundreds of others). I was originally going to cover it... but the original script just didn't work out well. (it was everything wrong with my content). So if you want me to suffer/get anal'ed more by Cookie/Inmu, tell me where to go and I will see what I can do.
    Anyway, uhhh check my pastebin for sources/videos/songs used before you complain about it in the comments, maybe donate dosh so I can buy "toys", and tell me that REU is god.
    In the meantime, gotta blast nerds!
    twitter.com/Suwawako2 ⭐

    • @Youssoupoff.
      @Youssoupoff. Год назад +1

      Oh my GO

    • @captaindookey
      @captaindookey Год назад +9

      you gotta hit those stans with the "IM EASY TO FIND!"
      Yeah I trashed cookie, cry about it.

    • @NareshSinghOctagon
      @NareshSinghOctagon Год назад +1

      Definitelty gotta do those two sequels(?),gotta have something to entertain us with English subtitles,regardless of quality.
      All of this also reminded me that I can't find a Marisa Reimu Christmas video on RUclips,which may or may not have some Cookie in it.

    • @33_Dojima_33
      @33_Dojima_33 Год назад +5

      Another W video

    • @JosephMoriya
      @JosephMoriya Год назад

      His adress 308 Negra Arroyo lane.

  • @kingbash6466
    @kingbash6466 Год назад +708

    The most insane thing is that Cookie for Touhou would be considered standard dark side fandom stuff for series like Sonic or MLP.

    • @czarnakoza9697
      @czarnakoza9697 Год назад +40

      im both terrified and interested what is the darkest part of the touhou community then.

    • @Ayahuasca98
      @Ayahuasca98 Год назад

      Paulandamy, CWC, and that MLP mass shooter beg to differ.

    • @koishigameing
      @koishigameing Год назад +87

      ​@@czarnakoza9697 its 100% 4chan

    • @czarnakoza9697
      @czarnakoza9697 Год назад

      @@koishigameing the touhou 4channers all have cum jars in their basement, no exception no excuse
      so yes probably

    • @lonelyshpee7873
      @lonelyshpee7873 Год назад +40

      ​@@koishigameingIs it? I haven't spent a lot of time on /jp/, but it didn't seem that bad. Should I lurk moar to see "the darkest part of the Touhou community"?

  • @biggreen1456
    @biggreen1456 Год назад +271

    I hate when I'm trying to find art of a touhou character and it's a Cookie☆ skinwalker

    • @czarnakoza9697
      @czarnakoza9697 Год назад +41

      touhou characters are already skinwalkers, look at their faces.

    • @mechakirby9576
      @mechakirby9576 Год назад +46

      yeah thats a well way to describe cookie☆ characters, touhous skinwalkers

    • @somefries3101
      @somefries3101 Год назад +11

      Because of that reason whenever i see an art like that and think it's touhou there's always someone that says that it isn't touhou

    • @thephantomwolf1002
      @thephantomwolf1002 Год назад +15

      tbh, I can't tell the difference between normal Touhou fanart and Cookie☆ fanart

    • @czarnakoza9697
      @czarnakoza9697 Год назад +19

      @@thephantomwolf1002 cookie characters have some changes to their outfits

  • @PokaPokasenpai
    @PokaPokasenpai Год назад +350

    Fun fact: My first exposure of Cookie was of a Smash Bros Lawl moveset of the Cookie version of Marisa.

    • @MarGokSon
      @MarGokSon Год назад +26

      You have this video? Im interested but not finding

    • @Suwawako
      @Suwawako  Год назад +44

      Show us

    • @3SON_GOKU
      @3SON_GOKU Год назад

      ruclips.net/video/cErJwsiwaVk/видео.htmlsi=rviCwAHF_1iKV5nf could this be it?

    • @PokaPokasenpai
      @PokaPokasenpai Год назад

      @@Suwawako ruclips.net/video/KuYqnUFPGiY/видео.html

    • @Vito025
      @Vito025 Год назад +1

      🤨

  • @1997811isaac
    @1997811isaac Год назад +142

    Trivia:Nyan Neko Sugar Girls later got attention of the Japanese Cookie☆ community, and gained the name ネッコー☆ (Nekko☆)

    • @imhooks9403
      @imhooks9403 Месяц назад +1

      STOP, LEAVE THAT SUGAR GIRL ALONE-

    • @1997811isaac
      @1997811isaac Месяц назад +1

      @@imhooks9403 Well the Inmu community are known for forcefully amalgamating anything remotely camp/low quality in first glance and anything connected to the terms used in their fandom as a Inmu reference.
      I’m kinda surprised how the 2006 Flash animation Hanoka (which does have those camp traits) hasn’t got consumed by them still.

    • @1997811isaac
      @1997811isaac Месяц назад

      @@imhooks9403 Yeah Nyan Neko Sugar Girl’s doesn’t deserve Cookie status, it is its own thing.

  • @BeckBomberGirl
    @BeckBomberGirl Год назад +978

    I think the Yukkuri Abuse subculture is definitely even more unhinged. Cookie is just very cringey lol

    • @hypotrain
      @hypotrain Год назад +138

      Yukkuri abuse is the pinnacle of fiction. It really is why art was created in the first place

    • @seki108
      @seki108 Год назад +56

      At least the goofiness of Osa-Yukkuri will serves as a good balance to the unhinged

    • @Ayahuasca98
      @Ayahuasca98 Год назад +74

      Yukkuri abuse is weird it’s like Smurf in hand/baby monkey abuse/Fluffle abuse

    • @Ubermenschgaming_
      @Ubermenschgaming_ Год назад +9

      Or perhaps you simply fail to comprehend his genius. Just a thought.

    • @ironmaster6496
      @ironmaster6496 Год назад +63

      the fascination that mose touhou "fans" have with abusing the characters never fails to make me cringe.
      i will say cookie is just bizarre and at times confusing like it got to a point where the chracters from that, and the regular Touhou ones are threated as separate entities

  • @2345Z
    @2345Z Год назад +343

    So the Cookie video was basically a multi-animator-project without animation

    • @mechakirby9576
      @mechakirby9576 Год назад +47

      its weird because drama aside cookie is just a more amateurish/shitty "reanimated" project

    • @NeoAya
      @NeoAya 10 месяцев назад +5

      ...so most multi animator projects

  • @lonelyshpee7873
    @lonelyshpee7873 Год назад +57

    My first exposure to Cookie was seeing some fanart of a Cookie version of Reimu, commenting about it and being corrected by someone who told me "that's not Reimu, it's (whatever her name was)". I was really confused, it was like seeing someone telling me "That's not Sonic, it's my OC, Pablo the Hedgehog"...

    • @kernapod7724
      @kernapod7724 Год назад +1

      Describe the reimu you saw

    • @lonelyshpee7873
      @lonelyshpee7873 Год назад +8

      @@kernapod7724 I don't remember. It's been a while and I don't really care about which specific "character" it was.

    • @MTB396
      @MTB396 Год назад +19

      is that the one where reimu drinks a tea.

    • @lonelyshpee7873
      @lonelyshpee7873 Год назад +15

      @@MTB396 It might've been, yeah. I love your videos, btw.

    • @dominic5386
      @dominic5386 9 месяцев назад +1

      I know that copypasta

  • @innoc4063
    @innoc4063 Год назад +89

    I think it might be worthwhile to make a video about Cookie☆ parodies and the culture that center around NYN aneki's contributions to the voice drama. It's basically become a canon of its own. Think of that derpy little Nazrin drawing that changed people's brain chemistry. Dig a little deeper though, and you'll find out about how far some fans were willing to go to get more voice clips/content for their videos.

    • @Rmysti
      @Rmysti Год назад

      the last line of your comment got so accurate to what i did 3 years ago

    • @MsZsc
      @MsZsc Год назад +9

      naidesu

  • @hypershock0storm479
    @hypershock0storm479 Год назад +62

    I remember seeing the original Marisa & Alice cookie kiss on RUclips a few months ago. To me, it looked just like any other armature touhou fanwork and I thought it was cute. Didn't think there would be so much controversy behind it.

  • @spaghettiking7312
    @spaghettiking7312 Год назад +47

    Never think that (some segments of) Touhou being cursed is a recent thing.

  • @湯呑みくん
    @湯呑みくん Год назад +147

    Fun fact: "WE ARE JAPANESE GOBLIN" would not be what it is today without Cookie☆ (because half of the people involved in its production are Cookie☆ fans).

    • @heyhackurs
      @heyhackurs Год назад +2

      you got a single source for that?

    • @湯呑みくん
      @湯呑みくん Год назад +25

      @@heyhackurs Composer "さつき が てんこもり", MMD creator "のすがきれもん", and the model "やみん" are Cookie☆ fan
      Source: 2代目クッキー☆解説Wiki

    • @heyhackurs
      @heyhackurs Год назад

      @@湯呑みくん Thank you

    • @NeoAya
      @NeoAya 10 месяцев назад +13

      And then by sheer coincidence, Mtb's version that gave it mainstream popularity uses a Cookie version of Suika

  • @pagyagi_burning
    @pagyagi_burning 11 месяцев назад +21

    全ては監督がたまげたことで始まった

  • @baraka629
    @baraka629 Год назад +15

    i played touhou games so much, i am now capable of taking a stroll through the chernobyl exclusion zone without a single of the ionizing radiation rays hitting me.

  • @Beepers559
    @Beepers559 Год назад +34

    I’ve never even heard of cookie until now, but goodness me it’s basically just the cdi Zelda of touhou, except the backstory was beyond appalling

  • @konignickerchen7265
    @konignickerchen7265 4 месяца назад +5

    The thing I like the most about Cookie is that it has permutated to a point where it's a blank canvas for creators. NND has dedicated tags for feel-good cookie, horror cookie, educational cookie, battle cookie and so much more. You'll find the most unique fanart here, as well. It really is a petri dish of meme culture.

  • @Basher.G
    @Basher.G Год назад +32

    Knowing about this feels like being a member of an exclusive club

  • @user-cdf9fk2rqa
    @user-cdf9fk2rqa Год назад +37

    なんだこれは...たまげたなぁ...

  • @SoldadoCatolico
    @SoldadoCatolico Год назад +14

    UDK's voice is now forever what I hear Marisa as.

    • @Youssoupoff.
      @Youssoupoff. 5 месяцев назад

      Caralho brasileiro kuki homo? Based!

    • @Youssoupoff.
      @Youssoupoff. 5 месяцев назад

      Pra mim sempre foi a voz do kinu de spellcard☆.

  • @usersinvideos
    @usersinvideos Год назад +15

    Excuse me for replying from outside of FF. (apology)
    This video is too funny!
    Can I share this?
    You seem to know "Inmu", so I'll put you in the "Inmu" list.
    I'm sorry to reply suddenly!
    Please forgive me!
    I'll do anything you say!
    (I don't say that I'll do anything you say)

  • @autistYuki
    @autistYuki Год назад +17

    surprising good video, I'll look forward to seeing more in depth about Cookie☆ from you.
    I was a cookie☆ fan for almost 3 years now so good stuff 👏

    • @adicctoalamarihuana
      @adicctoalamarihuana 8 месяцев назад +1

      Dood,they keep ignoring the Inmu community 😢😢

    • @autistYuki
      @autistYuki 8 месяцев назад

      @@adicctoalamarihuana tragic world in the Western 2hu community, they crap on our cookie and inmu....

    • @adicctoalamarihuana
      @adicctoalamarihuana 8 месяцев назад

      @@autistYuki Indeed....Very sad too,I bet they would love Inmu,i mean,they already laugh at dreamybull and stuff like that.

  • @baconmandanthe3rd944
    @baconmandanthe3rd944 Год назад +6

    i never knew where that one drawing of nazrin came from until now. Great video!

    • @chfr
      @chfr Год назад +3

      don't worry, 9/10 people who post NYN don't know either

  • @OCTAMAN
    @OCTAMAN 8 месяцев назад +5

    I'm a bit of a cookie historian, as cringe as that sounds. This community is seriously one of the wildest experiences you can ever find online. stories of lust, betrayal, personal demons, mental health, heart warming conclusions, beautiful works of arts, genuinely hilarious projects. Cookie is a true melting pot of internet shitposters. It truly is a sandbox anyone can play around in. It has it's demons. Dark moments, and good old cringe. But once you get past that. You're greeted with one of the hardest working, most passionate, interconnected yet decentralized communities online. It really is worth overcoming the language barrier for. The rabbit hole never ends with stories and videos to uncover.

    • @adicctoalamarihuana
      @adicctoalamarihuana 8 месяцев назад

      dude,cookie can't exist without inmu.I hate that people ignore inmu for some reason dont know why

    • @OCTAMAN
      @OCTAMAN 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@adicctoalamarihuanahonestly I’ve started work on my cookie introductory video that goes over EVERYTHING needed to hit the ground running to enjoying what this community has to offer. Trust me the lack of Inmu knowledge frustrates me as well. It’s crucial in building cookie☆ up to what it is today.

  • @exploshaun
    @exploshaun Год назад +4

    The only thing I know about cookie is the character name tags on danbooru. The fact that those characters aren't from the original video is the scary part.

  • @ImmacHn
    @ImmacHn Год назад +7

    I remember learning about cookie from someone in my stream, mentioned in passing as I have a dancing Nazrin emote. I investigated a bit so I kinda knew the gist of it, I find it completely unremarkable, but darn people can make anything explode.

  • @seki108
    @seki108 Год назад +14

    So I'm assuming the Inmu part is why almost every time I see Cookie stuff it's genderbent Touhou characters?

    • @adicctoalamarihuana
      @adicctoalamarihuana 8 месяцев назад +2

      Hu?,genderbent?,nah dude the inmu parts are the sound effects(table,slurping,etc) some of the BB's,and some nakes actors from the original inmu work(idk what do you mean by genderbent xd)

    • @seki108
      @seki108 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@adicctoalamarihuana Mostly I meant the Cookie tag on Danbooru being populated mostly by fanart genderbent Touhou character, aka where I mostly see the Cookie tag. Never actually looked at a video tagged Cookie on ANY site, much less the originals.

  • @taichi8160
    @taichi8160 Год назад +4

    honestly,I didn't start falling into the rabbit hole of entire touhou contents until I was impressed and made to shed tears by a Cookie⭐︎ touhou otomad video.

  • @painfulchild9786
    @painfulchild9786 Год назад +20

    I am a Japanese cookie fanboy. It is so much fun to share this chaotic culture with people from other countries. For expression and culture to flourish, there needs to be "some" amount of chaos. The hard part is how much "some" actually is. I think a culture like cookies is a cutting-edge activity that explores that boundary.

  • @ryuutokamakura7361
    @ryuutokamakura7361 Год назад +5

    Finally, after years following Touhou MADs, now I know he story behind the Cookie and Ganpachi relationship

  • @cominder64
    @cominder64 Год назад +5

    I'd kill to see a part 2 video going more into cookie and ita lore.

  • @igaguri1642
    @igaguri1642 3 месяца назад +2

    これを流行らせてしまって本当に申し訳ない…

  • @amirulfaiz9119
    @amirulfaiz9119 Год назад +3

    Even the japanese goblin video from MTB accidently used YMN aneki mmd

  • @dabluepittoo-aqua4213
    @dabluepittoo-aqua4213 3 месяца назад +1

    What was Marisa thinking? Who tf only bakes a singular cookie? Usually they make a batch, not just one.

  • @winterdragon2004
    @winterdragon2004 Год назад +6

    This is where that traffic light Daiyousei i keep seeing originated from right? I always wondered what was Cookie was supposed to be.

    • @DoIt-kz4fi
      @DoIt-kz4fi Год назад +1

      that's DIYUSI, originally from the og cookie☆ with like 2 lines total, but by chance someone made BB material about her as a traffic officer (search 交通整理DIちゃんPB.ar57), and then someone seemingly on a whim decided to take that idea all the way & made OFFside: DIYUSI (which is unusually great & you should watch it etc etc). thence, the characterization of DIYUSI from offside is now considered a basis for her modern depictions

    • @adicctoalamarihuana
      @adicctoalamarihuana 8 месяцев назад

      you mean DIYUSI=?

  • @1leon000
    @1leon000 Месяц назад +1

    I think my comment was deleted. It had a lot of replies and likes. Bring it back, Suwa!!!

  • @Klinoklaz
    @Klinoklaz Год назад +4

    fun fact: the voice actor of the character on your thumbnail has been doxxed and made up a bunch of rumor about religion hatred from 2012, which were used to ask for assassination from ISIS in 2015. this is what the niconico cookie community treatied as a meme

    • @DachiffDisco
      @DachiffDisco Год назад

      And I thought 4chan could be unhinged at times...

    • @Klinoklaz
      @Klinoklaz Год назад

      @@DachiffDisco cookie origins from the Japanese BBS 2ch (now 5ch). if you entered cookie "community" early enough, you know it's created by touhou haters and a culture of women discrimination in 2ch back in the days. this side of cookie is preserved by 2ch until now, but cookie fans in the "outer world" barely face it due to its weeby surface on niconico and social media. the true side of this kind of subculture is pretty hardcore (such as intentional evil of engaging murder, which 2ch and 8chan did), not only unhinged

  • @YoumuHoover
    @YoumuHoover Год назад +7

    "irasshaimase"
    - nyn

  • @danteshi
    @danteshi Год назад +10

    It's a deep web but touhou

  • @wagwagwagwag9035
    @wagwagwagwag9035 Год назад +2

    This video is so well made and I'm surprised of how much information of this garbage community are available in English...

  • @amiserablelittlepileofsecr856
    @amiserablelittlepileofsecr856 Год назад +1

    5:42
    those words send chills down my spine as that is probalby one of my favorite videos on this platform and Emp is probably my favorite youtuber
    (yeah sorry)

  • @秘密兵器持ってきたよ
    @秘密兵器持ってきたよ 7 месяцев назад +2

    Kazuhito Tadano(ネイティブ)

  • @aaa_1214
    @aaa_1214 Год назад +10

    I am Japanese and the following is a sentence using a translator. Therefore, some parts may not be accurate. I ask for your understanding.
    The "lewd dream" is one of the elements that cannot be removed when talking about the essence of "Cookie☆".
    A series of gay pornographic videos, including "A Midsummer Night's Dirty Dreams", attracted attention because of the appearance of baseball player Tadano Kazuto (it is a well-known story that this best and worst community would not have been born without the director saying, "Well I'll be blown...").
    Later, the shoddy acting, mainly by amateur actors, was pointed out for the related works, and many videos were made with this as a source of material.
    In such cases, three elements were used to symbolize that the works produced (hereinafter referred to as "Inmu videos") shared the same source material.
    1. a clipping of a male actor's utterance, called a "quotations" or a similar utterance with only a slight variation (the "quotations" here is the same as that used in the so-called "Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-tung")
    2. material of a male actor clipped from a video (hereinafter referred to as "BB Material"), or new BB Material created by modifying the BB Material
    (BB is Blue Back)
    3. Relationships between characters in the video or new relationships created by the Inmu video
    While these three elements are inherited and repeated in subsequent lewd videos, they continue to create differences through the invention of new elements.
    This is why Inmu videos have maintained their status as a major content for more than 20 years.
    And by its very nature, Inmu videos are fundamentally anti-commercial. The fact that they are originally pornographic videos, the search for personal information without regard to the dignity of the actors, and the unrestrained flurry of slander and libel are all factors that contribute to the lewd dream community. These factors make the lewd dream community a place where money is not allowed to intervene. Therefore, creators are not obliged to do so, but are free to try to create something more interesting.
    Now, as a result of the lewd dream community's proximity to the Cookie☆ community, the above effects are also manifested within Cookie☆ (the resulting videos are referred to as "inc videos").
    In contrast to lewd videos, where the appearance and characters are unique because of the live-action images, "Cookie☆" which has a two-dimensional Eastern appearance, will focus on the voice actors.
    I believe that this is where "Cookie☆" has been taken out of the "Touhou" category.
    Essentially, a secondary work is a story in which the possibilities of what could happen are pasted onto the world given by the original work. Nevertheless, in the lewd videos, relationships within "Cookie☆" or relationships between voice actors are used as a framework higher than the framework of the "Touhou" world. This is symbolized by the comment, "Who is RIM, your boyfriend?".
    (Author's note: A technique called "TDN notation" is used to conceal the real name. (Author's note: A technique called "TDN notation" is used to conceal the real name, which is a proper name minus the vowels. For example, "RIM = Reimu" and "TDN = Tadano".
    And "your boyfriend?" is an influence from the gay pornography of Inmu videos.)
    Cookie☆ characters must be called by the name of the voice actor.
    This makes it possible for the same (Touhou) character to appear at the same time (this area is connected to the multiverse of MARVEL's works).
    In addition, because of the predominance of voice actors, it is possible to add settings with statements made in situations not related to Cookie☆ (most of the Cookie☆ voice actors were also live-streaming, etc.).
    Furthermore, Cookie☆'s independence was further encouraged by the intervention of lewd dreams, which were tied together solely by the symbolism of "stick reading. The third of the three elements of lewd dream videos mentioned above plays a major role. In the "Battle Cookie☆" videos, the lewd dream character and the Cookie☆ character create a new relationship.
    It is extremely characteristic that the live-action lewd dream and the two-dimensional Cookie☆ character coexist in the same work.
    This is made possible by the presence of the other two elements, the "quotations" and the "BB material that are the first and second of the three elements of lewd dream videos mentioned above plays a major role. The word list, cut into fragments, reappears with a different meaning. The cut-out material is broken down into various parts and reconstructed. The result of combining the two is the composition of a completely new setting.
    If we consider this continuity of creation and succession as the essence of content, we can understand how the lewd community has grown so large.
    However, we must never forget that both lewd dreams and cookie☆s are slanderous contents.
    Therefore, we are not allowed to praise inc videos on a large scale, and commercialization of inc videos is also absolutely forbidden.

    • @aaa_1214
      @aaa_1214 Год назад +3

      原文
      クッキー☆の本質を語る上で「淫夢」は外すことの出来ない要素の1つである。
      ゲイポルノビデオである、「真夏の夜の淫夢」を初めとした一連の作品群は、野球選手「多田野数人」の出演により注目を集めた(監督がた「たまげたなぁ」と言わなければこの最高で最悪なコミュニティが生まれなかったのは有名な話である)。
      その後、関連作品に対して、主に素人の男優を用いた粗雑な演技が指摘され、それをネタとした動画が多数作られるようになった。
      その際、作られる作品群(以下「淫夢動画」と呼称)が原典を共にしていることを象徴するため、3つの要素が用いられることとなる。
      1. 「語録」と呼ばれる男優の発言の切り抜き、又は若干の変形のみをした類似の発言(ここでの「語録」はいわゆる「毛沢東語録」で使われるものと同じです)
      2. ビデオから切り抜かれた男優の素材(以下「BB素材」と呼称)、又はそのBB素材を元に加工を施して作られた新たなBB素材
      3. ビデオ内に於けるキャラクター同士の関係性、又は淫夢動画によって作られた新たな関係性
      この3つの要素が後続の淫夢動画内で継承、反復されながらも、新規要素の発明により差異を生み出し続けている。
      それにより淫夢動画は20年以上もの間一大コンテンツとしての地位を保ち続けているのである。
      そして、淫夢動画はその性質上、根本的に反-商業的である。元々ポルノビデオであるということ、男優達の尊厳を無視した個人情報の捜索、無遠慮に飛び交う誹謗中傷。これらの要素により淫夢コミュニティには金銭要素の介入が許されないものとなっている。従ってクリエイター達は義務感ではなく、自由に、より面白いものを作ろうとする。
      さて、そんな淫夢コミュニティがクッキー☆コミュニティに接近した結果、上記の作用がクッキー☆内部でも発現することとなった(その結果作られた動画を「淫ク動画」と呼称する)。
      実写であるポルノビデオと異なり、同一のキャラクターを演じるクッキー☆では、むしろ声優に焦点が当てられることとなる。私は、ここで「クッキー☆」が「東方」の枠を外れることとなったと考える。
      本来、二次創作は原作によって与えられた世界に、起こりうる可能性を貼り付けた物語である。にも関わらず、淫ク動画では「東方」による世界の枠組みより上位の枠組みとして、「クッキー☆」内での関係性、或いはより上位の声優同士の関係性が用いられることとなる。その象徴が、「RIMって誰だよ、お前の彼か?」というコメントに現れる。(筆者註:本名を伏せるために「TDN表記」と呼ばれる技法が用いられる。固有名詞から母音を除いたものである。例として「RIM=れいむ」、「TDN=ただの」)
      クッキー☆キャラクターは一様に声優名で呼ばれなくてはならず、同時にそれは、多数の同一(東方)キャラクターを一斉に登場させることが可能になる(この辺りはMARVEL作品のマルチバースに繋がるところがある)。
      また、声優の優位性により、クッキー☆とは無関係な場面での発言(クッキー☆声優のほとんどはライブ配信などもしていた)を用いた設定が追加可能であるというのも大きい。
      更にクッキー☆の独立を後押ししたのが「棒読み」という象徴性のみによって結び付けられた淫夢の介在である。先程述べた淫夢動画の3要素のうち、3つ目が大きな役割をもつ。「バトルクッキー☆」と呼ばれる動画群で顕著だが、淫夢キャラクターとクッキー☆キャラクターは新しく関係性を作り出している。
      実写である淫夢と、2次元的であるクッキー☆が同一作品内に混在しているのは極めて特徴的である。
      それを可能にしているのが残りの2つの要素、「語録」と「BB素材」の存在である。断片的に切り抜かれた語録は別の意味を持って再登場する。切り抜かれた素材は様々なパーツに分解され、再構築される。それら2つを組み合わせた結果、全く新しい設定が構成される。
      その創造と継承の連続性がコンテンツの本質であると考えれば、淫クコミュニティがこれほど大きくなったことが理解できるだろう。
      しかし、絶対に忘れてはならないが、淫夢/クッキー☆ともに誹謗中傷コンテンツであるということである。
      それ故に我々は大々的に淫ク動画を賛美することは許されず、商業化することもまた、断じてしてはならないのである。

    • @ElectricNippleTorture
      @ElectricNippleTorture 5 месяцев назад

      Hello, sorry for replying in English. From what I also understand as well, the production and community growth around 2011 and beyond for the Inmu community was due to also a major pushback against mass deletion of videos, known as the "Homocaust" in a familiar term to the Inmu community. The backlash as a result brought a lot more attention within the Nico Nico Douga community to rally against "UNEI", or the administration staff at dwango. As you mentioned the "anti-commercial" part of these videos, does seem to be play a major role in why niconico is flooded with this content for over 13+ years compared to other phenomenon like Wrestling Series, KYM, and others I cannot name off the top of my head.

  • @gumastruhadlonaceruzky
    @gumastruhadlonaceruzky Год назад +19

    No views, 5 likes, 3 comments. Makes sense

    • @EpikBirb
      @EpikBirb Год назад +3

      Me when views take time to update

  • @tyjggap
    @tyjggap Год назад +12

    なんだこれは…たまげたなぁ…
    それはそうとサムネにBNKRG姉貴を選んだのはセンスあるね!
    RIM族で一番好きなんだよなー

  • @bitelaserkhalif
    @bitelaserkhalif Год назад +1

    My exposure to cookie star? Inmu

  • @MisterFael
    @MisterFael Год назад +2

    If it exists, there's a Cookie music remix of it.

  • @かわむら-j6p
    @かわむら-j6p Год назад +8

    ⚠️ The thumbnail image is BNKRG and not reimu⚠️

    • @fireballhd3224
      @fireballhd3224 Год назад

      What the fuck is a BNKRG!!!?

    • @かわむら-j6p
      @かわむら-j6p Год назад +1

      ⁠ It is a character of Cookie☆, and it eats a cat.

    • @fireballhd3224
      @fireballhd3224 Год назад

      @@かわむら-j6p i see

    • @darg_113
      @darg_113 Год назад +1

      @@fireballhd3224 voice actress from the cookie☆☆☆ voice drama that is known for being a big liar... like the cat thing, we dont know if she was lying about it, althought shes usually portrayed as reimu with a scarf like in the voice drama, she recently got back into streaming with her own oc
      you can find Benikurage art by just typing BNKRG姉貴

    • @fireballhd3224
      @fireballhd3224 Год назад +1

      @@darg_113 i see the name just sounds like a launch code of sort and that's really funny to me

  • @Youssoupoff.
    @Youssoupoff. Год назад +3

    "The inumu community" lol
    You did good 👍

  • @GlobCoder
    @GlobCoder Год назад +3

    Great video! I think a second part going a little deeper into this topic and explaining things like naming conventions, how Meguru voice actresses voice was used to make a vocaloid of sorts using UTAU(and mentioning the legendary trio of parodies by Nisu), the infamous Nyon scene, some of the drama around her streaming and where most of her voice clips come from, mentioning the korean cookie etc. These are very interesting topics and getting some coverage of them in a single concise english video would be great!

  • @Omerizorman
    @Omerizorman 21 день назад

    7:58 oh yes
    The meme
    The legend
    And it's FROM JAPANESE POOORN

  • @japnatdist
    @japnatdist Год назад +3

    Cookies⭐︎ are like scrap wood art.
    It takes a shitty, well-made Touhou derivative work, disassembles it into parts, reconstructs it, interprets it in its own way and assembles it...

  • @Pelleministeri
    @Pelleministeri Год назад +1

    Should have featured Nyn Aneki

  • @TriếttTrầnMinh
    @TriếttTrầnMinh 3 месяца назад +1

    Can I have the source of that Alice music vid?

  • @名無し-e3f
    @名無し-e3f Год назад +5

    たまげたなぁ

  • @shoelacebother
    @shoelacebother Год назад +3

    yarimasune

  • @idiotnyn
    @idiotnyn Год назад

    i ve been in love with cookie for the last 2 years pretty imformative video

  • @igeljaeger
    @igeljaeger Год назад +1

    Big Brother☆ scarred me

  • @maruchan_3479
    @maruchan_3479 Год назад +1

    Are you going to cover other fan works such as “Memories Of Phantasm”?

  • @JesusChristDenton
    @JesusChristDenton Год назад +1

    i love the funny rat nyn aneki my beloved!!!!

  • @user-jr6tg2ew2g
    @user-jr6tg2ew2g Год назад +3

    Hi, I am Japanese and a fan of Cookie☆ and Inm. (Not something I can say with much pride anyway.)
    Personally, I feel that the current situation of Cookie☆ is not so good, or rather, there is a section that is growing sluggish. With the rise of voice dramas with synthetic voices (Zundamon, Yukari-san, etc.) and the emergence of HIKAMANI (Japanese top RUclipsrs "ヒカキン" edited into MADs), I believe that the people who used to be around Cookie☆ and inm have been drained by them and have become multipolar (not only on Nico Nico Douga but also on RUclips (The same can be said of RUclips as well as Nico Nico Douga).
    Since 養殖Cookie☆ (contributor of しりり and 自己矛盾 etc...) in the late 2010s, there seems to have been no feature-length works that could be the source of MAD (This is because the community's population has decreased and it has become less vibrant I think).
    well I like all cookies☆, so that's okay.

    • @hyundonglee6989
      @hyundonglee6989 9 месяцев назад

      Well, Cookie was never about quality anyway, so it was inevitable that the fad would stop eventually.

    • @adicctoalamarihuana
      @adicctoalamarihuana 8 месяцев назад

      it's ok dude,i love Inmu and Cookie☆ too!(heterosexual) +114514 points for being honest

    • @signnn
      @signnn 6 месяцев назад

      @@hyundonglee6989who said that? look at syamu_game, almost all content was ERASED and there's not any activity anymore.
      cookie is still alive (but not in a good way)

    • @BetaEmolga
      @BetaEmolga 6 месяцев назад +1

      I still enjoy Cookie☆ and Inmu MADs, and i'll agree that it's become oversaturated now, it remains a classic but all things have to come to an end anyway.
      (+ I also enjoy HikaMani too, but it's been growing stagnant as of late).

    • @ElectricNippleTorture
      @ElectricNippleTorture 5 месяцев назад

      Can you blame Shiriri and remmuh-san for quitting? Shiriri was found to have a very dangerous criminal history of manufacturing fake methamphetamine and also was discovered to be a failed VOCALOID producer prior to making Cookie content, which he found major success, but was ultimately rewarded by the wrath of the KRSW followers and anti-Cookie internet vigilantes. God only knows what remmuh-san also had, but he also coincidentally quit the same time as Shiriri. This userbase/community is just too dangerous and it clear overstayed its welcome as ニコ厨 ran out any potential quality creators and ruined the overall health of the community (as well as UNEI).

  • @lidenull
    @lidenull Год назад

    Nice to have you back man, hope you're doing well.

  • @OkGoogleShockMyBalls
    @OkGoogleShockMyBalls 9 месяцев назад +4

    "so from my example, let's analyze the Hungrybox documentary"
    lmao
    kuso video

    • @BetaEmolga
      @BetaEmolga 6 месяцев назад +1

      What's more funnier is that the nnd reupload removes the hungrybox bit entirely.
      People don't force western RUclipsr controversy with Cookie⭐.

  • @Kewamane
    @Kewamane Год назад +2

    Cookie and Undertale AUs

  • @RazyeSylvie
    @RazyeSylvie 7 месяцев назад +1

    I have to say cookie is normal, very very normal, because it's just a fanwork. I have saw many videos those are totally bullshit in comparison.
    Yeah, cookie is very normal, But someone is surely have some problems with some important organs.
    As one of my friends said:" some of Japanese internet users are always unreasonable ". Those unreasonable internet users are everywhere, that`s why many people hate cookie as well as inm and esu for they had became a symbol of cyberbullying and personal attack, but they are still alive.

  • @palmer_dudum
    @palmer_dudum Год назад

    Didn't expect Angry Birds Space background music

  • @takenname8053
    @takenname8053 Год назад

    SUPER NICE,
    never heard of this story before

  • @TatharNuar
    @TatharNuar 11 месяцев назад +1

    Isn't this all a bit too much hate for just one of many poorly-made fanworks? It's not even "Reimu fights the bad guys of adrkness" or "Attrack of th eyokai!" (Not Stevo's readings, but the fanfics themselves)

  • @user-yr6rj5oi9x
    @user-yr6rj5oi9x Год назад +2

    The situation on the front is as shown in the video.
    The backstage situation is that the stragglers from society have gathered together.
    Drug enthusiasts, stalkers, private information gatherers, psychos who want to see people ruined, those who want to be heroes, those who want to be idols, those who got upset after being dumped by amateur voice actors....
    Many were harassed and had their addresses given away. Some were fired from their companies, some became rich, some became professionals.
    It was an online favela.

  • @medom3710
    @medom3710 Год назад

    I did not expect the Hungrybox doc

  • @Serafin1283
    @Serafin1283 Год назад

    I love Webemez, is so strange that a western voice drama got popular in the cookies comunity

  • @epicKerBallze
    @epicKerBallze 10 месяцев назад

    Good. God. I'm not diving deeper.

  • @Vito025
    @Vito025 Год назад +1

    I've seen a lot of YTP of this thing...

  • @JorArg-c7s
    @JorArg-c7s 7 месяцев назад

    You don't even touch the tip of the iceberg.
    Dude, you could have easily made an hour long video about cookies. But I don't blame, this fandom is insane and the more you get into it, the more you realize that everyone is terrible

  • @soviet-chan8775
    @soviet-chan8775 Год назад

    otomads mentioned!!! also this video makes me feel old

  • @Floriaka
    @Floriaka Месяц назад

    total masochist

  • @deltazero3796
    @deltazero3796 Год назад

    I prefer market quality drawing over those top notch.

  • @catholicsagainstvaccines4081
    @catholicsagainstvaccines4081 Год назад +11

    Honestly thank you for making a video on all of this. I've tried going into the wiki but It was wayy too much for me to handle

  • @AltraHapi
    @AltraHapi 10 месяцев назад +3

    Sounds overhated

  • @monn-tan
    @monn-tan Год назад +1

    6:36 soika

  • @南佳也-q4l
    @南佳也-q4l 11 месяцев назад +2

    This is cool japan

  • @susangoaway
    @susangoaway 4 месяца назад +5

    Redditors get out

  • @SoldadoCatolico
    @SoldadoCatolico Год назад +1

    国↑交↓
    I don't care what any of you guys say, this stupid corner of japanese internet helped me learn japanese SO LONG LIVE 🍪⭐
    aguante la 🐀 chistosa.

  • @Reimu_hakurei_vibing_i_r12345
    @Reimu_hakurei_vibing_i_r12345 Год назад

    7:57
    ...
    ...
    ...
    B E U T I F U L

  • @billcosta
    @billcosta Год назад +2

    what the hell am i watching

  • @M8tallicJi8ngshi
    @M8tallicJi8ngshi Год назад

    " Aww shit here we go again. "

  • @Nintendogs08
    @Nintendogs08 11 месяцев назад

    I actually thought the part where they united the cookie parts was kind of cute...
    Why did the creator have to be weird...

  • @Chort-_-
    @Chort-_- Год назад

    I don't understand any fucking English, but I'm interested in everything related to Touhou, so please explain what this video is about

  • @PhanthakanXD
    @PhanthakanXD Год назад

    cookie animation is dogsh*t but otomad they made is so good that got me into the rabbit hole
    especially that "New Year Dream" video

  • @hesotate
    @hesotate 8 месяцев назад +2

    Flandre needs to completely destroy this entire thing

  • @EpikBirb
    @EpikBirb Год назад +1

    I... agree...

  • @goodandfren3926
    @goodandfren3926 Год назад

    9:16 Wait he sexually abused Minors (alledgedly just in case) damm bro.

  • @Meliae
    @Meliae Год назад +1

    MGR 🙏🙏🙏

  • @Meilingfan
    @Meilingfan Год назад

    Love you suwawakoo!!!

  • @LavaCreeperPeople
    @LavaCreeperPeople 9 месяцев назад +3

    This is why you should always stay away from most of the Touhou community

    • @vepply
      @vepply 7 месяцев назад

      It's not this bad!

  • @Grandy12
    @Grandy12 4 месяца назад

    So wait this was like a free fan project where none of the involved were paid a cent... and people got mad at it not being up to their standards? lol what a bunch of losers

    • @BetaEmolga
      @BetaEmolga 4 месяца назад

      Did you even watch the rest of the video

  • @Tom-jg9de
    @Tom-jg9de Год назад

    You know somne shood make a remake of it

  • @neirdakadrien3810
    @neirdakadrien3810 Год назад

    suwako IS french?!?!?!

  • @MsZsc
    @MsZsc Год назад +2

    naidesu

  • @TheSilly6403
    @TheSilly6403 Год назад +2

    I'm a bit curious, there are many "Cookie☆" character designs I have seen online such as Marisa in an all black dress and Nazrin with red eyes, do these originate from the original animation or from fan parodies? I didn't see them show up at all but its entirely possible I just missed them.

    • @darg_113
      @darg_113 Год назад +3

      theres more than just the original voice drama, a marisa in an black dress sounds like RI姉貴, she comes from the cookie☆☆☆☆ voice drama, usually depicted as a male cuz of her deep voice, as for the nazrin, i believe thats kofji姉貴, she voiced nazrin in the eastern☆ voice drama

    • @TheSilly6403
      @TheSilly6403 Год назад +3

      @@darg_113 wow i didnt know there was even more drama underneath, thanks for letting me know

    • @houraineet
      @houraineet 3 месяца назад

      The designs are from the animations, with the names being shortened versions of their respective voice actors name, with aneki added at the end (e.g, nyon aneki, who you're probably mentioning, would be NYN姉貴)

    • @jimmycarburator2012
      @jimmycarburator2012 2 месяца назад +1

      @@houraineet I've a question sir. Do you people (cookie fans) realize just how unhinged and detached from baseline reality all this is? Or is it like an "ironic cringe" type thing? In my many years of wandering the internet and exploring anomalies I haven't encountered anything like this. Don't get me wrong, obnoxious yuricucks being annoying and weird is no new thing, and neither is shipping drama (I mean, just scroll through any sonic forum from like 2005 and you'll find PLENTY). But... there is something about this "community" that stands out. Very interesting

    • @houraineet
      @houraineet 2 месяца назад

      @@jimmycarburator2012 I'd say its just 2chan trolling insanity mixed with fandom insanity.
      Cookie has become almost an entity in its own right, with very little remanents of legitimate touhou mixed in. I'm mostly here for the funny animations and MAD's the people make on NND.

  • @FreezinUrTundra
    @FreezinUrTundra Год назад

    I don't even really understand it. Only that it's colorful and a bit abusive at times.