The Enigma of Ancient Elam - Part I: The Proto-Elamite and Old Elamite Periods (3500-1500 BC)

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  • Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
  • Located in what’s today southwestern and southern Iran, the ancient country that most of us today know as Elam emerged as a dynamic and influential civilization that has left an indelible mark on the tapestry of human history. From its earliest origins as a collection of city-states and principalities in the 4th millennium BC to its peak as a formidable empire, Elam's complex history is one of resilience, innovation, power politics and ultimately in many areas, tragedy.
    In Part I, we’ll delve into the annals of Elam's early past and discover the origins of Elamite civilization, art, politics, and its growth as an important military power and commercial conduit that connected east and west.
    Contents:
    00:00 Introduction
    01:50 Where was Elam and who are the Elamites?
    07:38 Proto-Elamite Culture
    10:15 The Mysterious Proto-Elamite Script
    12:23 Trade and War with Ancient Sumer
    15:40 Elam Under the Akkadian and Awan Dynasties
    23:50 The Oldest Elamite Document and Treaty?
    26:51 Puzur-Inshushinak
    29:03 The Linear Elamite Script
    32:35 Elam Under the Third Dynasty of Ur
    35:55 The Shimashki Dynasty
    42:54 From the Shimashkis to the Sukkalmahs
    57:11 Thank You and Channel Patrons
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    Sources and Suggested Reading:
    The Archaeology of Elam, 2nd Edition - D.T. Potts
    The Elamite World - Ed. by Javier Álvarez-Mon, Gian Pietro Basello and Yasmina Wicks
    The Art of Elam - Javier Álvarez-Mon
    The Archaeology of Iran from the Palaeolithic to the Achaemenid Empire - Roger Matthews and Hassan Fazeli Nashli
    Elam and Persia - Ed. by Javier Álvarez-Mon and Mark B. Garrison
    A History of Babylon, 2200 BC - AD 75 - Paul-Alain Beaulieu
    King Hammurabi of Babylon - Marc Van De Mieroop
    Hammurabi of Babylon - Dominique Charpin
    Civilizations of the Ancient Near East Vol. III - Ed. by Jack Sasson
    Machinimas created using Total War: Rome 2 Age of Bronze mod
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Комментарии • 380

  • @Manic-Main
    @Manic-Main 11 месяцев назад +172

    Hell yeh. 1 hour program on Elam. Let’s goooooo

  • @IranTalk
    @IranTalk 11 месяцев назад +92

    Excellent work, Cy! Content like this is what makes your channel standout compared to others.

    • @JustGrowingUp84
      @JustGrowingUp84 11 месяцев назад +9

      Indeed!

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад +19

      Thanks man, appreciate the kind words... more on the way, stay tuned and thanks for watching!

  • @fanzy1338
    @fanzy1338 11 месяцев назад +40

    This video is by far the most researched and detailed presentation of the Elamite civilization. Great job 👏

    • @muslim2k
      @muslim2k 11 месяцев назад

      You've seen all such videos available on RUclips?

    • @fanzy1338
      @fanzy1338 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@muslim2k Yes

    • @aspenrebel
      @aspenrebel 2 месяца назад

      Never heard of them before, until this.

  • @Shaymuhs
    @Shaymuhs 11 месяцев назад +48

    I already know this is gonna be a wonderful video, I hope you know how much this kind of free high quality education means to us! Thank you for all of your work.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад +10

      Thanks, that's my goal, to hopefully give you all some good stuff to learn about and ponder over. Thanks so much for watching, this channel would be nothing without viewers like you!

    • @user-wc5ew4uq6b
      @user-wc5ew4uq6b 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@HistorywithCy
      Elam are the origin of the Arabs

  • @scoringbox2176
    @scoringbox2176 11 месяцев назад +45

    Been binge watching your work for the past several months now. Please keep making awesome content like this!

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад +15

      Will do my best, thank you for watching all of these, means a lot that you're enjoying and learning from the content!

    • @fgkuv5232
      @fgkuv5232 11 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@HistorywithCyAshurbanipal did nothing wrong ;)

  • @aimeemorgado8715
    @aimeemorgado8715 11 месяцев назад +15

    I came home hot and tired. Sat down and here is just what I needed to improve my mood, knowledge, and perspective! Thank you!!! Love your work.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад +4

      Thanks, glad this will help to make the day better. Thanks so much for watching, really appreciate it!

  • @cariboux2
    @cariboux2 11 месяцев назад +22

    Thank you, Cy. You're performing a great service. The more we understand about societies that preceded ours, the better able we will be to make choices for our own. I'm doing some independent research on belief systems and social stability (I have no idea if anything will ever come from it 😅), and your channel is great at expanding my scope and pointing me in new directions. Thanks once again. Great production!

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you, really appreciate the feedback and glad you enjoyed it...good luck on your research!

  • @oriffel
    @oriffel 11 месяцев назад +9

    omg thank you! everyone talks about Elam, but they always talkin shit, rather than ever talkin about them. I've been waitin for a video like this for a very long time.

  • @theresawilliams4296
    @theresawilliams4296 10 месяцев назад +6

    My husband and I absolutely love your work cy. You make two genuine Aussies history lovers happy mate.
    Keep up the good work.

  • @BoomaRanga72
    @BoomaRanga72 11 месяцев назад +11

    One of the only things I wanted more than the next episode of Egyptian Dynasties
    Keep up the great work mate, much love from Australia.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад +3

      It's on the way! Finishing up the script right now and hope to have the video out sometime next month along with Elam Part II. Thanks for watching these, really appreciate it!

  • @anasevi9456
    @anasevi9456 11 месяцев назад +6

    I've long heard of Elam and Susa, but this documentary truly pieced how it came together in a way I can see the entity forming.. At least a loose groundwork of what the the Medes and Achaemenids would spring off of. Thank you!

  • @EdrickBluebeard
    @EdrickBluebeard 11 месяцев назад +2

    I really appreciate these videos, Sir. Thank you for putting them together.
    I especially appreciate seeing examples of artwork and goods from the region/eras discussed.

  • @bistokidsfan
    @bistokidsfan 11 месяцев назад +8

    History with Cy. My afternoon is complete! 👍🏻😉

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks, appreciate the kind words...and thanks for watching!

  • @alimasoud4041
    @alimasoud4041 11 месяцев назад +2

    thank you Cy. like all your videos, this is well researched and well executed. i always can’t wait to see new materials from you

  • @WanaxTV
    @WanaxTV 11 месяцев назад +8

    I was waiting for this one! Congrats Cy, great video!

    • @spacebunny4335
      @spacebunny4335 11 месяцев назад +5

      Love your channel, you and Cy are the best sources for Bronze Age history here on RUclips.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад +3

      Thanks buddy, appreciate the kind words and hope you enjoy it!

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад +2

      @@spacebunny4335 Thanks my friend, glad you're finding the videos useful! Thanks for watching!

  • @BiggestCorvid
    @BiggestCorvid 11 месяцев назад +5

    Hey hey it's gonna be a great sunday evening.

  • @ryankasch5561
    @ryankasch5561 11 месяцев назад +31

    The idea of proto Elamite being not Elamite makes a lot of sense to me, just thinking of the length "Elamite" existed when we have other situations in history where a group continues calling their neighbors the same thing despite the neighbors changing, like with the Greeks and the "Scythians", and it sometimes going in reverse by calling a past group what the current group is called

    • @andersschmich8600
      @andersschmich8600 11 месяцев назад +4

      That is a great point! Anna Kommenus even called French Crusaders Celts.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  10 месяцев назад +3

      Interesting point, thanks for sharing and watching the video. More on the way, stay tuned!

    • @Mr713mexican
      @Mr713mexican 8 месяцев назад

      More info please on this… how is Elamite “long” and what other names of those eastern neighbors of Sumer could it be

    • @user-wc5ew4uq6b
      @user-wc5ew4uq6b 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@HistorywithCy
      Elam are the origin of the Arabs

    • @dougcortes6567
      @dougcortes6567 3 месяца назад

      @@user-wc5ew4uq6bElamites are more closely related to what became Iran.

  • @iexist3919
    @iexist3919 11 месяцев назад +6

    I can’t wait to watch when I find the time. I hope to visit Iran and see the sights of these ancient civilizations once again. Thank you again Cy!

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад +3

      No worries my friend, take your time! Me too... there are so many ancient sites around the world I want to see. Thanks for always tuning in and watching these, really appreciate it!

  • @Numba003
    @Numba003 11 месяцев назад +3

    Ooh I've been interested in a good in depth video on Elam! Thank you so much for this. I'm looking forward to part two!
    God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)

  • @pikmin4743
    @pikmin4743 11 месяцев назад +4

    woo! I had a feeling yesterday that something Cy would be dropping soon. Thank you!

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад +1

      My pleasure, thanks for watching!

  • @geraldmeehan8942
    @geraldmeehan8942 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you Cy for yet another top notch presentation. Keep up the good work!

  • @spacebunny4335
    @spacebunny4335 11 месяцев назад +7

    I love the Elamites. Great video so far it’s going to take a while to watch and I’m all for it.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад +2

      No worries, take your time and thanks for watching!

  • @johnemery6944
    @johnemery6944 11 месяцев назад +1

    I’ve been wanting to learn more of Elam for awhile thank you cy I love the long form videos you did great with this one

  • @TypicalidiotGuy
    @TypicalidiotGuy 11 месяцев назад +2

    This is fantastic! Elam has fascinated me since I heard of it a few years back... Thank you!!

  • @davidbrislin1126
    @davidbrislin1126 11 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome. Well done, Cy. This is so cool and interesting.

  • @hairyjohnson2597
    @hairyjohnson2597 11 месяцев назад +2

    I have a 2 hour drive to work this morning, I woke up and saw a 1 hour video on elam. Going to be a great day! Thanks Cy!

  • @jeremyglauert40
    @jeremyglauert40 11 месяцев назад +7

    My wife is an Elamite. She grew up in Shiraz and her family had served the Shah or King of Kings for 2,500 years. Her Grandmother who was an illegitimate child of the Crown Prince of the Qazars of Estifan. Their name was Janesarran which is a title and not really a name. It means. "I shall lay my life down for my King, know matter what the circumstances may be."

    • @jeremyglauert40
      @jeremyglauert40 11 месяцев назад

      Also she is a rare, ravishing beauty. I think they are the most attractive women on earth and the original Ayrian race, but keep that too yourself because her head is big enough as it is and would have been one of the Persian women who road into battle in the front line. She is 5' nothing but says she will fight anyone, man, woman or animal and I've seen her bring the cops down a few notches. Her dad took her to a public execution when 5 years old and said,"Don't tell on people because in Iran, that's what happens too them and then you have to carry that weight for life." Staunchest women

    • @SimpleMinded221
      @SimpleMinded221 11 месяцев назад

      @@jeremyglauert40 indoAryans are from central asia, a bit closer to the caucuses. Iranians are admixed with them, but definitely not pure.

    • @SimpleMinded221
      @SimpleMinded221 11 месяцев назад

      And aryan isnt a race, it was a language family and word thst simply meant " nobleone" in indo aryan. Dont follow psuedohistory.

    • @rupertjon2353
      @rupertjon2353 9 месяцев назад +2

      @jeremyglauert40
      Iranians today have genetics tying them to the the Causasus. Original Elamites were not from that area. We have reliefs of Elamite soldiers in Louvre Museum - they are not representative of today’s Iranians.
      Historical, Elam was razed to the ground by the Assyrians- all recorded history. Iran was later occupied by various people from the Middle-East, Causasus and Central Asia.
      Your wife is not an Elamite.
      And what does description about your wife or the Iranian people have to do with this historical video?

    • @jeremyglauert40
      @jeremyglauert40 9 месяцев назад

      @@rupertjon2353 Yes they were spread all around there 2,500 years ago. The whole lot was Elam when Cyrus and Darius the first ruled. She is Farsi and she said her family were originally Elamites, then it changed to Persia and then Iran. All old maps show the old Persia being Elam plus parts of Sumer before Cyrus expanded the empire. She's not arab Persian after the Islamic conquest in the 7th century but her family would have been in Isfahan before Shiraz because the Qasars ruled during the entire Ottoman Empire I think and her grandmother was an eligible child of the crown Prince, but they had harems then so she would have been one of many, but she was looked after. She was Ayrian, blonde hair blue eyed Persian beauty, well her 58 year old granddaughter is beautiful so grandma would have also been

  • @richardbrook4545
    @richardbrook4545 11 месяцев назад +2

    Great effort Cy, the Elamites are often overloocked and they are extremely interesting! thanks I have learnt alot

  • @michellejnickel
    @michellejnickel 11 месяцев назад +1

    Yasssssss new video! I'm sick so this really helped cheer me up a bit

  • @sanny8716
    @sanny8716 10 месяцев назад +3

    Wow, with how few mentions this civilization gets, I'm pleasantly surprised by how much we actually do know about it
    Thank you for this in depth video, and the second part that I'm about to start watching
    Definitely glad I subscribed to this channel

  • @JeffM---
    @JeffM--- 10 месяцев назад

    This is amazing work you have done here. Thank you very much, really enjoyed it.

  • @Angayasse
    @Angayasse 11 месяцев назад +7

    This is so important, thank you for creating this video! All of the history-related groups, chats and other communities I am in, make the Elamites the villains. They should all check this video out:)

  • @RelivingHistory1
    @RelivingHistory1 11 месяцев назад +1

    another excellent video, keep it up Cy!

  • @michaellewis7959
    @michaellewis7959 11 месяцев назад +1

    Wow CY! This is an hour of exceptional, thank you!

  • @ancientsitesgirl
    @ancientsitesgirl 11 месяцев назад +6

    Another excellent Bronze Age episode to watch ❤️ Greetings Cy✌️

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад +1

      Hi there! Yes, I can't get enough of the Bronze Age... hope you enjoy it and thanks for watching!

  • @srenette82
    @srenette82 11 месяцев назад +6

    Good work! I just need to point out that an article from 2022 by F. Desset et al. in Zeitschrift für Assyriologie demonstrates the initial decipherment of Linear Elamite (PDF of the article is available online). New work is now ongoing to gain additional insights into the ancient Elamite world and its neighbors from these texts.

    • @Amadis691
      @Amadis691 7 месяцев назад

      How do other scholars see that decipherment? That seems so exciting!

  • @jimmyscherwitz5631
    @jimmyscherwitz5631 11 месяцев назад +5

    Yes! Happy to get this notification.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks, hope you enjoy it and thanks for watching!

  • @patrickotis3884
    @patrickotis3884 11 месяцев назад +4

    Thank you again Cy!

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад +1

      Pleasure's all mine, thank YOU for watching!

  • @corvuscorax8459
    @corvuscorax8459 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you so much. You provide great insight into the ancient near East!

  • @cthulu8mytoast
    @cthulu8mytoast 11 месяцев назад

    This is really interesting. I look forward to part two!

  • @johnericjohn67mcvicker70
    @johnericjohn67mcvicker70 11 месяцев назад +1

    My new favorite channel. Definitely gonna buy some stuff from your shop!

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks so much for your kind words and support, I'm thrilled you're enjoying the content! More on the way, stay tuned and thanks for watching!

  • @Zenmyster
    @Zenmyster 11 месяцев назад +15

    I had always heard, if at all, of Elam as an outlier. I've often wondered just how important it may have been as a bridge between Mesopotamia, Egypt, the Levant and the Indus cities.

    • @user-wc5ew4uq6b
      @user-wc5ew4uq6b 7 месяцев назад

      Elam are the origin of the Arabs

    • @porothashawarma2339
      @porothashawarma2339 4 месяца назад

      I strongly believe there was a lot of genetic admixture from these early Elamites to the Indus culture before the aryan tribes migrated into the sun-continent .
      These Elamites probably migrated southward and again mixed with aboriginal hunter gatherers of southern India and formed the Dravidian peoples there .

  • @SamtheIrishexan
    @SamtheIrishexan 10 месяцев назад

    Great video full with good information and insightful commentary. Plus like someone else said 1hr of Elam, yes pls!

  • @Ukr1018
    @Ukr1018 11 месяцев назад +7

    This one was very worth the wait! An interesting thing about this is that the first verified sumerian king enmebaragesi, is known for attacking elam, and the end of sumerian is when cyrus the great, from Anshan, conquers them

    • @shutruk-nahunte3309
      @shutruk-nahunte3309 11 месяцев назад +1

      No end of sumer was the fall of third dynasty they never had an empire since at Cyrus's era sumerians didn't exist

    • @pedigreeann
      @pedigreeann 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@shutruk-nahunte3309 Some new folks had moved into the area of highland Elam (capital at Anshan) in the 10-8th Century BCE; they were called the Persians by the Greeks and were Indo-Europeans, speaking an Indo-European language. In the 6th Century BCE, they began their expansion into the Persian Empire by taking the rest of the old Elamite territory. No doubt the native Elamites still had descendants in the Persian heartland (probably peasants and slaves; that is what happened to the defeated), but the language and culture of the land had been changed by the invaders.

  • @raminsadeghi7358
    @raminsadeghi7358 11 месяцев назад +4

    wow
    Finally
    Thanks for keeping your word

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад +2

      Haha this is not the end... there will be more on Elam and Susa in the not-too-distant future, stay tuned and thanks for watching!

  • @ObjectiveEthics
    @ObjectiveEthics 6 месяцев назад

    Cy your videos are head and shoulders above so many others in your genre. Your narration is very articulate and clear. The graphics you edit into your videos really add to the content. Very impressive brother. Happy holidays 🎄

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for the feedback and glad you enjoyed this video...there's a part II for Elam also that you might be interested in. More on the way including one hopefully on just Susa... stay tuned and thanks for watching!

  • @Strattios
    @Strattios 11 месяцев назад

    Love your work. I've learned more about these cultures from you than anywhere else.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks, so glad these are useful... and thanks for watching!

  • @831ACH
    @831ACH 11 месяцев назад

    I haven't seen this covered elsewhere on RUclips in nearly the depth. Respect.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks and hope you enjoyed it!

  • @Old_8_gauge
    @Old_8_gauge 11 месяцев назад

    Great info. Very well researched.👏

  • @Junier-Hussein
    @Junier-Hussein 10 месяцев назад +1

    I think I've said it previously but I really love your channel & appreciate the work you put into your videos. I'm just going to watch part 2 now 😊 It's like a journey going back in time 🙂 As a British born Pakistani I'm intrigued with the Indus valley civilization/Harappan civilization I will binge watch them videos next. I visited Mohenjo-daro a couple of years ago it was a great experience. I'm going back next year but this time to India to a place called Rakhi Garhi.

  • @LostSatelitBroadcast
    @LostSatelitBroadcast 11 месяцев назад

    Excellent explanation about the subject: CONGRATULATIONS!

  • @DCC11347
    @DCC11347 2 месяца назад

    This is amazing stuff Cy. Keep up the good work. A lot of Americans have not heard of Elam because they don't teach it in achool. Thank tou for give the world more culture and history

  • @quintonbroster2994
    @quintonbroster2994 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you for your hard work and very informative films

  • @bettylaselli2048
    @bettylaselli2048 11 месяцев назад +1

    Wow great work! Thanks for sharing!

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад +1

      My pleasure, thanks for watching!

  • @vazak11
    @vazak11 11 месяцев назад

    Amazing work!

  • @joeshmoe8345
    @joeshmoe8345 11 месяцев назад

    Awesome. Thanks a bunch Cy Guy

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад

      My pleasure, thanks for watching!

  • @ronniemann9014
    @ronniemann9014 10 месяцев назад

    This guy Cy is a pretty cool dude. Great job, man. Thnx for the content.

  • @Sempermortis84
    @Sempermortis84 10 месяцев назад

    I love elamite content! Good job man.

  • @YadinZedek777
    @YadinZedek777 11 месяцев назад

    Great video, can't wait to see a video on the bronze age collapse of all the surrounding people's and empires.

  • @GreasusGoldtooth
    @GreasusGoldtooth 10 месяцев назад

    Yes, a video on the Elamites!

  • @robertclarke71
    @robertclarke71 11 месяцев назад

    Love your work mate.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks, appreciate it and thanks for watching!

  • @AnnapoornaPosaniKalakruti
    @AnnapoornaPosaniKalakruti 9 месяцев назад

    Very good work

  • @danti55
    @danti55 11 месяцев назад

    This is wonderful thank you!

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад

      My pleasure, thanks for watching!

  • @JonnoPlays
    @JonnoPlays 11 месяцев назад +2

    I like the video game footage you used. It sure what game it is but I'm guessing Civilization? A lot of these games are very accurate in their portrayal of historical details and I think the footage is good quality. Nice work on that. I used to play this game called Pharaoh that was recently redone and released on stream. Might be able to find some good footage from that game too. If you thought it was relevant and needed some specific footage I would be willing to produce it and deliver it to you. I'm doubting you'll actually want or need to use any but just wanted to mention that I enjoyed that use of footage mostly.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah that's Total War with the Age of Bronze mod. I've heard of Pharaoh and think I've even seen it streamed some time back. I'll check it out again. There's a new Total War game called Pharaoh coming out too this October. Thanks again for watching, really appreciate it!

  • @bogdantoda6748
    @bogdantoda6748 11 месяцев назад

    It's thru your videos I discovered the Hittites, Babylonians, Assyrians, Myceneans.and others. Thank you for this heftier
    video on Elam. Great content!

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад

      I love comments like this because they motivate me to put out more. I wasn't sure if there was that much interest in Elam but I guess I was wrong...thanks for watching all of these, really appreciate it and glad to help with learning new stuff!

    • @bogdantoda6748
      @bogdantoda6748 11 месяцев назад

      @@HistorywithCyIt's too bad their writing system (Elam) is not yet fully deciphered because they are a civilization of great merit and deserve their place in History!

  • @calamitycalls
    @calamitycalls 11 месяцев назад

    im new to your channel and i gotta say that they are very good and helpful as i got interested to ancient mesopotamia thanks to your videos.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад +1

      Welcome and so glad these videos have sparked your interest in this fascinating era of history. Thanks so much for watching, really appreciate it!

  • @BenSHammonds
    @BenSHammonds 11 месяцев назад +2

    very interesting episode

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you, and thanks for watching!

    • @BenSHammonds
      @BenSHammonds 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@HistorywithCy it is sure my pleasure, hello from east Texas :)

  • @berserk046
    @berserk046 11 месяцев назад

    great work, thank you

  • @AngelRoseAngel1980
    @AngelRoseAngel1980 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you 😊

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад +2

      My pleasure, thank you for watching!

  • @madderhat5852
    @madderhat5852 11 месяцев назад

    Brilliant and engaging.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!

  • @terryhughes7349
    @terryhughes7349 9 месяцев назад

    Great documentary!!!!

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  9 месяцев назад

      Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! There is a Part II to it also if you're interested. Thanks for watching, really appreciate it!

  • @masoudgolshani6364
    @masoudgolshani6364 10 месяцев назад

    So impressed by your pronunciations

  • @horusgrimwulff8659
    @horusgrimwulff8659 11 месяцев назад +1

    awesome Ive been hoping youd do something on Elam ... my rl last name is Elam again thank you very much this

  • @bwhotwing411
    @bwhotwing411 11 месяцев назад +4

    I’d love to see more about Iranian and Bactrian or Oxian history. It’d fill in some gaps in world history for me. It’s interesting to see if any of these cultures had any influence or origins on ancient Harrapan civilization or vice versa

    • @shutruk-nahunte3309
      @shutruk-nahunte3309 11 месяцев назад +1

      Oxians were not irainian they were elamite nomadic tribe

    • @bwhotwing411
      @bwhotwing411 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@shutruk-nahunte3309 I never said they were. I was referring to civilizations in the Oxus mountain region. They must’ve been important because they were near all of the deposits of Lapis Lazuli that was traded all the way to Egypt. And must’ve traded with the Indus Valley civilization too.

    • @shutruk-nahunte3309
      @shutruk-nahunte3309 11 месяцев назад

      @@bwhotwing411 ok

  • @kaarlimakela3413
    @kaarlimakela3413 11 месяцев назад

    Perfect timing, and great even if it wasn't perfect timing!

  • @LuisAldamiz
    @LuisAldamiz 11 месяцев назад +5

    I'm not linguist nor have studied the issue in any depth but when in prehistory and anthropology informed circles you raise the issue of Elamo-Dravidian, nobody ever objects. It's not just a valid linguistic theory, it fits well with the prehistorical pattern of expansion of Neolithic eastwards from what was later known historically as Elam.
    As I see it, Neolithic West Asia was a mosaic of languages and some gave birth to widespread linguistic families, most of those of West Eurasia and India surely (maybe even some in Africa too, hard to say). Just as the Anatolian Neolithic spread westwards to most of Europe and carried with it the Vasconic languages (now only represented by Basque but 6000 years ago spoken in most of Europe), proto-Elamite Neolithic spread eastwards to South Asia (in the same timeline as European Neolithic first) and carried with it the Elamo-Dravidian family of languages, which eventually spread to South India, where it survives to this very day.
    If you're familiar with population genetics that would be the biggest part of the so called ANI (Ancient North Indian) component, while the ASI (Ancient South Indian) one is surely from the pre-Neolithic aboriginals instead.

    • @LeftistUprising
      @LeftistUprising 11 месяцев назад

      I first heard this on the linguistics newsgroups back in the late '90s, and now I believe it ardently. It's only a matter of time when the IVC script will be deciphered and proved to be related to Tulu or Malayalam.

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz 11 месяцев назад

      @@LeftistUprising - Unless new corpus is unearthed, IVC script will never be deciphered because there's too little to work on, AFAIK only short texts ("brands", jati or guild names?) in seals.
      However the case of the genetic identity between Brahuis and Balochs, as well as the general scatter of North Dravidian in North India is strong evidence for IVC language being Dravidian (Northern branch probably, Southern branches probably coalesced only when Dravidian Neolithic reached the area, which was delayed until Tropical crops were developed in Africa mostly).

  • @TheRedneckPreppy
    @TheRedneckPreppy 11 месяцев назад

    A very fine episode Cy. As always, you have my appreciation for all of your hard work on these videos.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks my friend, as always, you have my appreciate for your support and watching these... truly appreciate it!

  • @thotherospdx
    @thotherospdx 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks!

  • @dougcortes6567
    @dougcortes6567 3 месяца назад

    Let’s go!

  • @Sarke2
    @Sarke2 25 дней назад

    Fascinating civilization we sadly dont know much about, and your analysis is in depth, i enjoyed every second of it, will watch part II and part III for sure. In my opinion early Elamites were closest to Sumerians, they influenced each other, both languages were language isolated, definetely for sure they were different from semitic Akkadians and later Amorites. Hope we will learn even more in the future about this great civilization. And yes about the kingdom of Murhashi in the east i think they were related to Jiroft culture?

  • @fatemea6552
    @fatemea6552 10 месяцев назад

    We need more content about elamids !

  • @noahlogue
    @noahlogue 11 месяцев назад

    History with Cy video!!

  • @johnssmith4005
    @johnssmith4005 11 месяцев назад

    I would really love a video on the Black sea civilizations and their relation with Asia Minor and Greece

  • @chopsddy3
    @chopsddy3 11 месяцев назад

    Super👍!

  • @mattjones741
    @mattjones741 11 месяцев назад +4

    love to learn about Elam and the world around and outside Mesopotamia

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад +2

      Awesome, I hope that you enjoy this video and part II coming up! Thanks for watching!

  • @ShivSidharthGowda
    @ShivSidharthGowda 9 месяцев назад +3

    Hi..... I'm from karna'taka ....Kannada" India
    The information in this video ..has lot of resembles ... Words to our current existing language n culture too ..
    Elam .... ile ...= means land /earth
    Hattians --- hatti - = home
    Etc...
    Thank u for this thought provoking n well researched info...

  • @planetbirthday6859
    @planetbirthday6859 11 месяцев назад

    Never heard of Elamite till now thanks

  • @LeftyScaevola
    @LeftyScaevola 11 месяцев назад +2

    Looking forward to the part about the Neo Elamite period, and its end. We all know what happened to the western end of Elam and Susa when their disrespected my Bro Evil Overlord, Ashurbanipal, but how the Eastern end around the other capital Anshan, diminished and evaporated quietly, and then just became Persian is a mystery to me.

  • @firstnamelastname-kr8dv
    @firstnamelastname-kr8dv 7 месяцев назад

    That tablet script around 12:00 looks like stuff we find over in South America

  • @Iambrendanjames
    @Iambrendanjames 11 месяцев назад +2

    The Elamite's seem to show how broad, and pivotal to civilization the act of trading was as well as agriculture. Trading between people is probably a much older act than planting food, but agriculture might be much less conducive to fostering civilization if we didn't trade goods between different groups..

  • @LeftyScaevola
    @LeftyScaevola 11 месяцев назад +1

    Good Video. Big subject, with relatively little original source material available compared to Mesopotamia of the same periods.
    Questions: The Jiroft culture? Part of Elam,Rival, Subject? Part of Marahashi? Something else?
    Elam trade with the Oxus civilization?
    Relations between Elam and the Gutians: Allies, rivals, enemies?

  • @Borzasnyul
    @Borzasnyul 11 месяцев назад

    Impressive.

  • @sladewilson4543
    @sladewilson4543 11 месяцев назад +2

    regarding linear elamite, a proposed deciphering has been proposed in 2022 by Desset et al.

  • @jeremycline9542
    @jeremycline9542 10 месяцев назад +2

    Do you think Elam could have been Dravidian? I can imagine how these peoples could have moved along the coast of the Indian Ocean and the Persian Gulf.

  • @Jabranalibabry
    @Jabranalibabry 10 месяцев назад

    True ancient history!

  • @QalOrt
    @QalOrt 11 месяцев назад

    Ah Glorious Elam!

  • @michaelhoffmann2891
    @michaelhoffmann2891 11 месяцев назад +1

    It's interesting that 2 isolates - that also don't have a relationship to each other - developed right next to each other.

  • @bradm.3775
    @bradm.3775 Месяц назад

    I Love this information about Sumeria and Mesopotamia

  • @JonnoPlays
    @JonnoPlays 11 месяцев назад +1

    Your merch is incredible! I bought two shirts today. The book of the dead on Grey and the Beatles one on maroon. Please enable all colors on all merch in the spring store. The color choices are not consistent and the colors I wanted were not offered because you selected the default colors. Go back in and edit the product and add every color available. This will help sales. I usually buy purple shirts and you didn't have any except in women sizes.

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks, that's really the work of one of my friends whose helped me with the designs...his name is announced at the end of each video - Pastrafrola! The credit goes to him! Haha from your icon I can see that you indeed like purple. I'll look into the color issue and try to fix it. Thanks for watching the video and buying the merch, hope you like it when it arrives!

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  11 месяцев назад

      @JonnoPlays so it looks like TeeSpring is only allowing up to five colors, but purple has now been added to some of them. Any particular ones you're interested so that purple or any other color can be added? Let me know and thanks!

  • @iranianrepublicanpartyanti3587
    @iranianrepublicanpartyanti3587 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you very much for addressing empire EELAMITE, which inspired the Achaemenids of Iran and is part of the Bakhtiary EEL's heritage, please do an example on the structures of that period.🌹☀️🦁

    • @HistorywithCy
      @HistorywithCy  6 месяцев назад

      You're welcome baradar! I'll have more on Elam and the Achaemenids in 2024 so stay tuned and thanks for watching!

    • @iranianrepublicanpartyanti3587
      @iranianrepublicanpartyanti3587 6 месяцев назад

      @@HistorywithCy Thank you very much; Of course, I follow your weekly history TV program, it is an honor baradar♥️👋🏻