44 is quite possible, but not if they decide to play Stewart a lot. If they play Stewart a lot, no more than 20 wins. Klintman made multiple 3's in 4 of the summer league games, got 4 assists per game, and did everything else well too. While Reed played mostly backup center for Philly last year, he certainly can also play at pf some for us. Harris will be starting at power forward. We can use Thompson at pf. No reason at all to play Stewart any at pf. Why play Stewart any at center? We've already seen he just can't play center, as he offers no helpside rim protection. Reed can be our backup to Duren, and we could even use Tolu Smith from the summer league there; among many other possibilities. On the other hand, the owner could overide all common sense, and insist Stewart play because he is a fan favorite. In which case, forget seeing more than 20 wins.
It's hard to take these guys seriously when they don't understand Ivey can still start and be staggered with Cade. When Cade sits, Ivey slides down to the point, and Beasley comes in. It's like how Joe D would play the 1 when Zeke sat and Vinnie came in, they just called it a 3 guard rotation instead of staggering. Mind blowing that pistons fans wouldn't get the concept when it was a major feature of our greatest team.
This is my Starting 5. PG:Cade. SG: The best player in training camp who kills everybody else competing for that spot. SF: Thompson. PF Harris. Center:Duren.
Ivey is our second best player.. people are only looking at how he fits with Cade.. Cade needs to also make room for him because he’s our future not Beasley or THJ.. I think Beard has it flip flopped because we already know what we are getting with Beasley and THJ we have to find out where Ivey is in his development. cuz his ceiling is so much higher than both of them. starting line up should be Cade, Ivey, Simone, Harris, Duren
People seem to have forgotten the 28 game losing streak, brought upon by not starting Ivey. Short memories; but they say people tend to forget pain. We should at least try Cade, Ivey, Fontecchio, Harris, Duren as our starting unit. Cade hands it off to Ivey, spots up for a 3. Harris and Fontecchio are further spreading the floor to help enable Ivey to thrive on his drive. Duren is being a lob threat, another target for the slick passing Ivey. A bucket, time after time. Defensively suspect, but certainly not that bad compared to suffering Bogey's defense last season.
@@LeeSohlden yep exactly it was such a misguided cluster fuck of a team with zero leadership and direction.. Killian starting is just one glaring example of that… I think having a whole new system and experienced consistent floor leader like Tobias will bold well for their development.. but it’s like it’s great we got these good vets that shoot better than the young guys but they aren’t even close to being our foundation going forward they are here to company the young core we have… also all these young guys are going to get better going through that terrible experience with no foundation.. it will be good for them to see and know the difference how it is with a good situation around them.. also Ivey shoots like 34 percent from three amongst this cluster fuck he’s not that bad lol people are just so impatient.. if we are going uppidity and bench him we might as well trade him and get it over with cuz that’s basically giving up on him…
Pistons team is pretty deep! Second team lineup is not all that bad!!! Ivey, THJ, Thompson, Holland, Stewart. Starting Cunningham, Beasley, Fontecchio, Harris, Duren
I just started a Brooklyn Nets channel I wanted to see if you had some availablity to talk about the nets acquiring Hayes, your thoughts on his time in Detroit, his upside or is it all downside? Let me know if you have anytime. Thank you- Gary
For the Pistons everything depends on the improvements of Ivey, Thompson, Sasser, Stewart, Duren etc.. If Ivey has been in the gym all summer fixing that broken, no confidence shot, the Pistons can win 35 to 37 games.
Can y'all tell me how last year got put on Ivey Thompson n duren..I hear trade Ivey everyday..and even heard bench him from experts smh I'm disappointed..Beasley started last year because bucks have no SG tim didn't start..experts are willing to put a one year contracts in front of a potential all star one day..21 year old fellas..not too mention 30 games he was coming off the bench sometimes 11th n ave 15.4 smh coaching didn't have anything to do with it huh..slowed Thompson progress down also I think just give these boys a chance shit..love the show
People love to have scape goats. But as you rightly observed, not one bit of fault was on Ivey. I said to begin last season, if they relied on Stewart and Hayes to be big parts of the rotation, a 20 win season was in store. They did, and well, not even 20 wins. On the other hand, they could have made the playoffs if they ditched those two immediately.
Sadly he's not a 1 or a 2, as soon as he leaves Detroit, he will be out of the league a couple years later!!! The only difference between Killian and Jaden, is just the athletic ability...but Jaden, has extremely low basketball I.Q
The fact that everyone on the Ivey and Cade can work together train has to do verbal gymnastics to make it make sense tells me it's a bad idea and we should trade Ivey asap
Many teams have a coach that runs an offense with two on ball passer playmakers. Luka didn't appreciate Brunson until he was gone. Then they traded a bunch of picks to replace him.
Was this episode about the hosts guessing what's going on in the players head with no evidence to support the opinion? If that's the case, the guy with the red shirt won the day with his Ivey take on wanting to be cade
Why Shaggy always hating on Ivey?? Every show he got a wild take hating on him. And he doesn’t know how to praise Cade without throwing a Stray at J.I. His wild takes scream Skip bayless
Shout out Rod Beard calling in live from The Mars Rover
I'm calling 44 wins and a playoff berth. Gotta aim high! As professional athletes, they should be reaching for the absolute max!
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44 is quite possible, but not if they decide to play Stewart a lot. If they play Stewart a lot, no more than 20 wins.
Klintman made multiple 3's in 4 of the summer league games, got 4 assists per game, and did everything else well too. While Reed played mostly backup center for Philly last year, he certainly can also play at pf some for us. Harris will be starting at power forward. We can use Thompson at pf. No reason at all to play Stewart any at pf. Why play Stewart any at center? We've already seen he just can't play center, as he offers no helpside rim protection. Reed can be our backup to Duren, and we could even use Tolu Smith from the summer league there; among many other possibilities. On the other hand, the owner could overide all common sense, and insist Stewart play because he is a fan favorite. In which case, forget seeing more than 20 wins.
@user-dx3di8mh8r Stewart is a hustle man. Dog off the bench. When he gets stronger and athletic, he'll be the sure starter
Go home before the crack house you’re smoking at gets raided
It's hard to take these guys seriously when they don't understand Ivey can still start and be staggered with Cade. When Cade sits, Ivey slides down to the point, and Beasley comes in. It's like how Joe D would play the 1 when Zeke sat and Vinnie came in, they just called it a 3 guard rotation instead of staggering. Mind blowing that pistons fans wouldn't get the concept when it was a major feature of our greatest team.
Pistons fans are idiots i mean look at and listen to these nerds
I sincerely want to see a healthy dose of Ivey & Cade starting together!!
Why it will never ever work!!!
Unless Ivey is 40% from three it will never work
We shall see gents!
This is my Starting 5. PG:Cade. SG: The best player in training camp who kills everybody else competing for that spot. SF: Thompson. PF Harris. Center:Duren.
Ivey is our second best player.. people are only looking at how he fits with Cade.. Cade needs to also make room for him because he’s our future not Beasley or THJ.. I think Beard has it flip flopped because we already know what we are getting with Beasley and THJ we have to find out where Ivey is in his development. cuz his ceiling is so much higher than both of them. starting line up should be Cade, Ivey, Simone, Harris, Duren
People seem to have forgotten the 28 game losing streak, brought upon by not starting Ivey. Short memories; but they say people tend to forget pain.
We should at least try Cade, Ivey, Fontecchio, Harris, Duren as our starting unit. Cade hands it off to Ivey, spots up for a 3. Harris and Fontecchio are further spreading the floor to help enable Ivey to thrive on his drive. Duren is being a lob threat, another target for the slick passing Ivey. A bucket, time after time. Defensively suspect, but certainly not that bad compared to suffering Bogey's defense last season.
@@LeeSohlden yep exactly it was such a misguided cluster fuck of a team with zero leadership and direction.. Killian starting is just one glaring example of that… I think having a whole new system and experienced consistent floor leader like Tobias will bold well for their development.. but it’s like it’s great we got these good vets that shoot better than the young guys but they aren’t even close to being our foundation going forward they are here to company the young core we have… also all these young guys are going to get better going through that terrible experience with no foundation.. it will be good for them to see and know the difference how it is with a good situation around them.. also Ivey shoots like 34 percent from three amongst this cluster fuck he’s not that bad lol people are just so impatient.. if we are going uppidity and bench him we might as well trade him and get it over with cuz that’s basically giving up on him…
Pistons team is pretty deep! Second team lineup is not all that bad!!! Ivey, THJ, Thompson, Holland, Stewart. Starting Cunningham, Beasley, Fontecchio, Harris, Duren
Would like to see Ivey as back up point guard!
I just started a Brooklyn Nets channel I wanted to see if you had some availablity to talk about the nets acquiring Hayes, your thoughts on his time in Detroit, his upside or is it all downside? Let me know if you have anytime. Thank you- Gary
For the Pistons everything depends on the improvements of Ivey, Thompson, Sasser, Stewart, Duren etc.. If Ivey has been in the gym all summer fixing that broken, no confidence shot, the Pistons can win 35 to 37 games.
Why hasn't rod learned how to use zoom yet
Can y'all tell me how last year got put on Ivey Thompson n duren..I hear trade Ivey everyday..and even heard bench him from experts smh I'm disappointed..Beasley started last year because bucks have no SG tim didn't start..experts are willing to put a one year contracts in front of a potential all star one day..21 year old fellas..not too mention 30 games he was coming off the bench sometimes 11th n ave 15.4 smh coaching didn't have anything to do with it huh..slowed Thompson progress down also I think just give these boys a chance shit..love the show
People love to have scape goats. But as you rightly observed, not one bit of fault was on Ivey. I said to begin last season, if they relied on Stewart and Hayes to be big parts of the rotation, a 20 win season was in store. They did, and well, not even 20 wins. On the other hand, they could have made the playoffs if they ditched those two immediately.
I have the same goal for the Pistons as I had last year. Improvement. One game at a time. I leave the decision making to the professionals.
im starting to believe jaden is 1 instead of a 2
Sadly he's not a 1 or a 2, as soon as he leaves Detroit, he will be out of the league a couple years later!!! The only difference between Killian and Jaden, is just the athletic ability...but Jaden, has extremely low basketball I.Q
He's not a 1 or a 2!! He will be out of the league
@@wrongthinkpodcast2140 i have to differ on that i just believe him and cade cant play together or need to be staggered
The fact that everyone on the Ivey and Cade can work together train has to do verbal gymnastics to make it make sense tells me it's a bad idea and we should trade Ivey asap
BIG FACTS!!!!
Many teams have a coach that runs an offense with two on ball passer playmakers. Luka didn't appreciate Brunson until he was gone. Then they traded a bunch of picks to replace him.
@@pheralanpathfinder4897 Luka, Brunson and Kyrie can all shoot though and overall are smart players, Ivey is not
Was this episode about the hosts guessing what's going on in the players head with no evidence to support the opinion? If that's the case, the guy with the red shirt won the day with his Ivey take on wanting to be cade
At least one of you has common sense. Last season started with the horrible decision to not start Ivey. The result was 14 wins. Lets not go there.
Why Shaggy always hating on Ivey?? Every show he got a wild take hating on him. And he doesn’t know how to praise Cade without throwing a Stray at J.I. His wild takes scream Skip bayless
Is the Ivey hate coming from Cade's people?