Started playing metal back in the late 70s when it was still being called hard/ heavy rock ( yeah, I´m that old) so I´ve been through most of the genres throughout the decades. One thing I often miss in metal is actual SONGS, so here are a few additions that always helped me in my own songwriting,- just to elaborate on the points made in the video. Use the relative keys: If you´re riffin´in Em you could sing a melody in Gmajor - they would go together flawlessly as they contain all of the same notes just starting at a different spot in the scale. If you´re in major you find the relative minor by going three semitones ( or three frets :) ) DOWN from the root or if you´re in minor say Am you go three semitones ( or three frets ) UP to find the corresponding major. So: Am / C major - A major/ F#M - D major/ Bm - D minor/ F major etc.,- this technique makes the combined chords sound very wide and open especially when you add upper extentions like the 6, 7 and 9 on top of the minor chords to go with the major. Old Black Sabbath trick: Riffin in minor - melody in major - often starting on the fifth instead of the root. Hope this helps unlocking creativity.. Stay Metal.
I agree with you Ulf that the songwriting can be lacking in a lot of modern metal. I feel like it's sometimes more about the riff or how difficult something is to play than it is about the song! So thank you for sharing your thoughts, tips and techniques. Have a great day!
Riff in major sounded like something Billy Corgan would write for Smashing Pumpkins, but then the riff in phrgyian sounded like early Ghost. Crazy how vastly different a sound you can get from just changing a few notes.
Ah, I can hear that! Even though I don't know Ghost well, the final version with the organ added made me think Ghost too! Or my idea of Ghost, haha. It is. That's why I stress intervals so much!
I agree! It's probably no surprise to hear that I wrote the Phrygian version first, and then changed it so I would be able to explain things a bit better and keep a consistent thread through the video, in terms of the theory and how to apply it. Thank you! I thought it turned out nice enough that I'm considering using it on a real song haha.
Thank you! I really appreciate the nice words. Have a wonderful day! And P.S. there are a lot more winter landscape in other videos if you want to check out more stuff haha.
Your approach to theory and what it represents is excellent. Love hearing how you dissect things. As someone still learning theory principles (we are always learning I think and hope) it’s really cool to hear someone breaking stuff down less traditionally. Outside of the box of the rules per se.
Thank you! I really appreciate that. When I started getting deeper into theory, I thought so many people taught it in such complicated and unuseful ways. I try to apply theory in a ways that are musical, and not too academic. At least that's my aim! So comments like these mean a lot! Hope you're having a wonderful day and good luck with your further ventures into theory!
This is a fantastic breakdown (no pun intended) of how you use theory to help you. Also big thumbs up to the atmosphere, just you sitting and hanging out in the snow/forest was lovely. 🤟🏼
Thank you kindly! There's so much unnecessary confusion around the modes out there in my opinion. But if you are interested in the topic of modes you need to stay tuned for the video I'm working on next! I hope your day is going well!
in my opinion, this is useful when you have leads. Then you can really use 7th chords and interesting scales, otherwise, writing a genuine riff and obeying the rules are at odds with one another.
That's literally the whole point and purpose of theory: the terms exist only to communicate ideas, and the logic exists to describe the reality and what is possible. Weird how at times you get this where people think theory defines limits in a conformist sort of way: scale exists, therefore I should use only scale. No, scale exists because you make something, and then scale is able to describe what you make perfectly. Theory in itself is not a restriction on creativity because to say so would mean that reality itself somehow restricts creativity. That makes no sense. On the other hand, you get people who emphasize the sensable and empirical too much, denying theory and ultimately claiming experience is the only true teacher-as if the last 6000 years or so of human tradition were worthless and there's nothing to be gained except by reinventing the wheel for oneself endlessly over and over again rather than building upon the sum of all human knowledge and beliefs which constitutes human tradition.
I agree. I tend to always have a pragmatic approach to anything like this, and just gather tools on the way. I'm very wary of ideology of any kind. My goal is to make music at the end of the day, and the more I learn, the more I'm able to do that. Theory is a great way to accumulate sounds and expand my vocabulary quicker than I would have been able to if I only relied on my ears.
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Started playing metal back in the late 70s when it was still being called hard/ heavy rock ( yeah, I´m that old) so I´ve been through most of the genres throughout the decades.
One thing I often miss in metal is actual SONGS, so here are a few additions that always helped me in my own songwriting,- just to elaborate on the points made in the video.
Use the relative keys: If you´re riffin´in Em you could sing a melody in Gmajor - they would go together flawlessly as they contain all of the same notes just starting at a different spot in the scale.
If you´re in major you find the relative minor by going three semitones ( or three frets :) ) DOWN from the root or if you´re in minor say Am you go three semitones ( or three frets ) UP to find the corresponding major.
So:
Am / C major - A major/ F#M - D major/ Bm - D minor/ F major etc.,- this technique makes the combined chords sound very wide and open especially when you add upper extentions like the 6, 7 and 9 on top of the minor chords to go with the major.
Old Black Sabbath trick: Riffin in minor - melody in major - often starting on the fifth instead of the root.
Hope this helps unlocking creativity..
Stay Metal.
I agree with you Ulf that the songwriting can be lacking in a lot of modern metal. I feel like it's sometimes more about the riff or how difficult something is to play than it is about the song! So thank you for sharing your thoughts, tips and techniques. Have a great day!
Riff in major sounded like something Billy Corgan would write for Smashing Pumpkins, but then the riff in phrgyian sounded like early Ghost. Crazy how vastly different a sound you can get from just changing a few notes.
Ah, I can hear that! Even though I don't know Ghost well, the final version with the organ added made me think Ghost too! Or my idea of Ghost, haha.
It is. That's why I stress intervals so much!
I was trying to find what the major chord progression sounded like, thanks... you're completely right. Sounds like Smashing Pumpkins...
The difference between major and Phyrigian made the riff so much better. I love these demonstrations! I Really like the end of the piece!
I agree! It's probably no surprise to hear that I wrote the Phrygian version first, and then changed it so I would be able to explain things a bit better and keep a consistent thread through the video, in terms of the theory and how to apply it.
Thank you! I thought it turned out nice enough that I'm considering using it on a real song haha.
Helpful video, and very cool winter environs. Thank you.
Thank you! I really appreciate the nice words. Have a wonderful day!
And P.S. there are a lot more winter landscape in other videos if you want to check out more stuff haha.
Your approach to theory and what it represents is excellent. Love hearing how you dissect things. As someone still learning theory principles (we are always learning I think and hope) it’s really cool to hear someone breaking stuff down less traditionally. Outside of the box of the rules per se.
Thank you! I really appreciate that. When I started getting deeper into theory, I thought so many people taught it in such complicated and unuseful ways. I try to apply theory in a ways that are musical, and not too academic. At least that's my aim! So comments like these mean a lot!
Hope you're having a wonderful day and good luck with your further ventures into theory!
This is a fantastic breakdown (no pun intended) of how you use theory to help you. Also big thumbs up to the atmosphere, just you sitting and hanging out in the snow/forest was lovely. 🤟🏼
Thank you so much! I appreciate it a lot. Have a wonderful day and thank you for watching!
@@heitstrengningmusic no problem, thanks for the content!
I love watching this over and over.
@@miketeeguitar I just woke up but that is the greatest thing I'll hear all day. Thank you!
thanks for the term "tonic hammering" didnt know how this is called and was looking for sth to explain for AGES realy thx a lot
Haha my pleasure! It's something I completely made up but it gets the idea across quite well I think!
@@heitstrengningmusic yes it does!!! in so many ways i love LEGO pieces that appear out of nowhere ;-)
Honestly thank you so much for making this video. I really appreciate you. These are concepts I wanted to learn but I couldn't find a god teacher.
Thank you for saying that. I appreciate you, for being here and letting me know. I hope you have a fantastic day!
Awesomeness!
Awesome!
Thanks man, that put things into a better perspective.
@@BLOODFLY1 Thank you! I'm happy to hear you feel that way.
Thank you si much for this video. ❤
Thank you so much for your kindness!
Hey! What's your tuning in this demo? Looks standard when you present the riff but sounds lower. I'm confused 🤔
@@Sispheor It's in drop D! :)
Great tips, keep up the good work, friend
Thank you! And have a wonderful day!
Really cool video and I love your way with modes!
Thank you kindly! There's so much unnecessary confusion around the modes out there in my opinion.
But if you are interested in the topic of modes you need to stay tuned for the video I'm working on next!
I hope your day is going well!
@@heitstrengningmusic Ok, ok, I'll subscribe... :D
@@DEADLINETV You can always unsubscribe after that one! Haha!
@@heitstrengningmusic just make sure I don't! 😂 No pressure...
Great video
Thank you! And have a great day!
in my opinion, this is useful when you have leads. Then you can really use 7th chords and interesting scales, otherwise, writing a genuine riff and obeying the rules are at odds with one another.
Which rules are at odds with writing a genuine riff? I'm not questioning you rhetorically or anything, I would love to hear your thoughts on it.
That's literally the whole point and purpose of theory: the terms exist only to communicate ideas, and the logic exists to describe the reality and what is possible. Weird how at times you get this where people think theory defines limits in a conformist sort of way: scale exists, therefore I should use only scale. No, scale exists because you make something, and then scale is able to describe what you make perfectly. Theory in itself is not a restriction on creativity because to say so would mean that reality itself somehow restricts creativity. That makes no sense.
On the other hand, you get people who emphasize the sensable and empirical too much, denying theory and ultimately claiming experience is the only true teacher-as if the last 6000 years or so of human tradition were worthless and there's nothing to be gained except by reinventing the wheel for oneself endlessly over and over again rather than building upon the sum of all human knowledge and beliefs which constitutes human tradition.
I agree. I tend to always have a pragmatic approach to anything like this, and just gather tools on the way. I'm very wary of ideology of any kind.
My goal is to make music at the end of the day, and the more I learn, the more I'm able to do that. Theory is a great way to accumulate sounds and expand my vocabulary quicker than I would have been able to if I only relied on my ears.
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