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  • Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
  • Nowadays we associate tea with calm and wellbeing. But this incredibly popular drink has a violent and turbulent history. It’s been a bedfellow of opium, a catalyst for several wars and was the trigger for the world’s first case of industrial espionage. Its murky ascent mirrors the story of colonial expansion and the industrial revolution in the 19th century.
    It was the lynchpin between two empires - one in decline, the other booming. Its central character - Robert Fortune - was the precursor to James Bond. His incredible journey is history in the making. His weapon is a humble leaf. His life is a tangled web of mystery and subterfuge that sees a dynasty brought to its knees.
    How could Robert Fortune travel through China unrecognised and unchallenged, while carrying thousands of tea plants? How did he manage to outwit the Emperor’s soldiers and spies and export not only their valuable tea, but also their expert horticulturalists? Why did his wife reduce all his notes to ashes, after his death?
    Documentary: Tea War: How China’s Tea Was Stolen (2016)
    Direction: Jérôme Scemla & Charles-Antoine De Rouvre
    Production: La Compagnie des Taxi-Brousse
    #fulldocumentary #documentary #film #tea #china #war #espionnage #spying #uk #history #robertfortune #colonialism

Комментарии • 175

  • @alexanderjentes
    @alexanderjentes 2 месяца назад +94

    I believe the title should be: ‘Robert Fortune on How Tea Was Stolen From the Chinese.’

    • @shipwreckedpoet3
      @shipwreckedpoet3 2 месяца назад +1

      And the actual documentary is titled “Tea War”: The Adventures of Robert Fortune

    • @giuseppelogiurato5718
      @giuseppelogiurato5718 2 месяца назад +3

      "How Robert Fortune stole a few minutes out of my life"...
      "Robert Fortune" 😂

    • @stephenmeier4658
      @stephenmeier4658 2 месяца назад +6

      "How intellectual property was stolen by China" is more relevant here I believe

    • @kyk1682
      @kyk1682 2 месяца назад

      It’s stupid SEO. They won’t change it

    • @huwpatt3817
      @huwpatt3817 Месяц назад

      the silk secret was stolen also from China... but the lawfare of intellectual property [ip] by the lazy deceivers of the aukus mob is more egregious ​@@stephenmeier4658

  • @elizabethdugan7640
    @elizabethdugan7640 2 месяца назад +40

    I found this documentary very informative about a drink I enjoy. However it wasn't the first great industrial secret theft from China. The first was silk! Under the patronage of the Byzantine Emperor, Justinian I, 2 Christian monks brought back silk worms and the knowledge of silk production. First the Roman Empire, then secondly, the Byzantine Empire had lost too much silver to China for the purchase of silk. The monoply was broken when Imperial Byzantine silk factories were set up. The Sui Dynasty lost out but the Byzantine Empire gained a new revenue source. Thus was born the European silk industry. This happened in the 6th century CE.

    • @lasentinal
      @lasentinal 27 дней назад

      I agree with your account of the theft of silk from China.
      My problem is the meaningless use of CE and BCE. These are too phonetically similar. I use AD to mean Advancing Dates and BC to mean Backwards Chronology which is logically what they are. You count forwards from 1AD and backwards 1BC, a bit like the number line, only there was no year zero, because the Romans had concept of zero as a number.

  • @brettcurtis5710
    @brettcurtis5710 2 месяца назад +25

    Yep, and one of the East India Company offshoots, Jardine-Matheson's HSBC Bank, founded on opium, still financing drug dealers, who woulda thunk???

    • @alomaalber6514
      @alomaalber6514 23 дня назад +1

      the YOU TUBE on the Opium Trade is excellent, My town was part of the East Indian Company but took me a lifetime here in retirement to get the whole story on YOU TUBE! Cheers! Also the book by Peter Mathieson The Snow Leopard a great read.( that family).

  • @edwardhaglin2322
    @edwardhaglin2322 Месяц назад +13

    Wasn't silk stolen from China before this?

  • @philchinamusical
    @philchinamusical 2 месяца назад +9

    One interesting thing is that though it says in the film that there was no common tone in China back then, all the Chinese actors in this film are speaking Putonghua (a common tone spoken by nowadays Chinese nation wide).

    • @douglaslee6324
      @douglaslee6324 2 месяца назад

      Yes, there was. They call it Guan Hua or official language. Hower, it is less popular than Putonghua today.

    • @douglaslee6324
      @douglaslee6324 2 месяца назад

      The actors have to speak Putonghua. Otherwise, the audience can not understand their dialect. Acting is not real. You are so naive. Grow up.

  • @RichieTyndall
    @RichieTyndall 2 месяца назад +48

    When you open with the outrageous assertion that the East India Company was honourable, you immediately lost all credibility.

    • @revolutionaryhamburger
      @revolutionaryhamburger Месяц назад +1

      I’m curious. What is an example of an honorable institution in your opinion?

    • @carlabroderick5508
      @carlabroderick5508 Месяц назад +4

      Didn’t notice the East India Company was presented as honorable. Its terrible reputation overwhelms any adjective.

    • @raolhooley
      @raolhooley Месяц назад +3

      She isint asserting that eegit...thats just the phrase that was used originally

    • @rogermassey8844
      @rogermassey8844 Месяц назад +1

      In the 18th / 19th centuries its title was The Honourable East India Company. So this programme is historically accurate in using its full title. Its use was not to praise the EIC as behaving honourably which it obviously did not.

    • @asc3184
      @asc3184 Месяц назад +1

      Theft even from its Allies was never below England and the UK. Wish that tea was the only theft.

  • @markuslaugner4853
    @markuslaugner4853 Месяц назад +2

    I'm a big tea fan and have been many times in China
    First time 1983
    I know what is quality tea
    I have been many secret places where they grow very expensive tea
    I helped picking and processing
    But was never allowed too take a plant with me
    It should stay that way

  • @xavisanchez7522
    @xavisanchez7522 Месяц назад +9

    The east india company is older than the british empire . And was more powerful than britain itself

    • @raolhooley
      @raolhooley Месяц назад +3

      Actually wrong because it was reined in by the British government so therefore not more powerful..lol..

    • @llee4225
      @llee4225 Месяц назад

      The monarchy got kickback from East India for permits and military support to it Mafia control.

    • @danguee1
      @danguee1 20 дней назад +1

      @@raolhooley Haha! Not a great political thinker, then? It was more powerful - but then was reined in by the British government. Those statements are not mutually exclusive. The EIC heirarchy submitted to British law not because it was weak(er) - but because it obeyed that particular law.... Go on - think about it - you can get there!

    • @raolhooley
      @raolhooley 19 дней назад

      @@danguee1 desperate to be right ..lol...given it didnt want to be reigned in by the british gov but submitted to that fate means it was powerless against the might of the british gov therefore weaker..power has many forms..not a great political thinker are u...lol

  • @carolebner2091
    @carolebner2091 2 месяца назад +12

    Very beautiful country,great video.also informative i didn't know how India had got into the tea business.

  • @martinanderson4721
    @martinanderson4721 25 дней назад +2

    The tea clippers ( Cutty Sark, Black Prince, Therrmopylae) brought the fresh tea .mainly from Shanghai to Bristol where auction sales took place .They took about 73 days competing with each other. The phrase " on the nail " at the quayside posts.

  • @rossmckechnie1210
    @rossmckechnie1210 2 месяца назад +7

    For all the tea in China is a fantastic book for anyone that wants a little more detail around this story

  • @corylarsen5788
    @corylarsen5788 Месяц назад +6

    Shanghai has existed for 1000s years and has been a major center for trade

  • @valery668
    @valery668 12 дней назад +2

    Fascinating and we must remember the Honore Balzac observation: "Behind every great fortune, there is a crime."

  • @martinanderson4721
    @martinanderson4721 25 дней назад +2

    The narrator is right about education in Scotland - two Acts required that every child in every parish shall be taught to read and write. Plus the Reformation.

  • @aldenteh9412
    @aldenteh9412 2 месяца назад +16

    Isn't the title supposed to be "How tea was stolen from the Chinese"? ...Stolen to the Chinese completely changes the meaning, the documentary already failed at the title.

  • @theoldcurmudgeon7649
    @theoldcurmudgeon7649 2 месяца назад +5

    8:30: "No dependence can be placed on the veracity of the Chinese. I may seem uncharitable, but such is really the case."
    Some things never change.

    • @NCM-xy8ow
      @NCM-xy8ow 2 месяца назад +4

      Words of a pirate and thief.

    • @alfaeco15
      @alfaeco15 2 месяца назад +4

      And he cheated them stealing Tea plants, tea growing techniques...

    • @raolhooley
      @raolhooley Месяц назад

      ​@@alfaeco15boohoo..woke nonsense...what exploitations had gone before both in china and England...eeegits..china at the time was a brutal dog eat dog place full of slaves,peasants and a wealthy class that had the power of life or death over vast swathes of the populace..it was a society that had grown from continual war and oppression..there is no period that has moral high ground..humans have always been greedy..read more to obtain a realistic balance

  • @SuperPromethee
    @SuperPromethee 2 месяца назад +6

    And the crown regime did bar the american merchants to buy tea directly from china ..

  • @jimmywang1586
    @jimmywang1586 2 месяца назад +17

    one addiction feeding another addiction: British opium for Chinese tea.

    • @xavisanchez7522
      @xavisanchez7522 Месяц назад +1

      Today is manufactured sugar

    • @khtan585
      @khtan585 Месяц назад +1

      Which addiction is destructive and part of a prohibitted drug ?

    • @JS-jh4cy
      @JS-jh4cy Месяц назад +1

      Chinese refused payment in pure silver for tea, so eventually someone came up with trading opium for tea

    • @redtobertshateshandles
      @redtobertshateshandles 26 дней назад

      My dad's 95 and been drinking tea for most of that time.
      I don't think tea is harmful.

    • @RedStar0723
      @RedStar0723 23 дня назад

      thats ridonculous as everyone knew china demanded nothing BUT silver from foreign traders.

  • @christianwitness
    @christianwitness 2 месяца назад +6

    This is a good story. Well done. Who knew? Not me...

  • @Landrew0
    @Landrew0 Месяц назад +2

    "Stolen" from the Chinese implies that they owned it all.

  • @mimipanini17
    @mimipanini17 2 месяца назад +3

    What a wonderful, well done documentary, to be enjoyed for many but especially for tea lovers. Thanks!

  • @valmarsiglia
    @valmarsiglia Месяц назад +3

    Stolen _to_ the Chinese? Also, I think you'll find quite a few more cases of industrial espionage prior to this (eg silkworms, Venetian glass, etc).

  • @cliffmays442
    @cliffmays442 28 дней назад +4

    First I would not call this "industrial" theft. Also what Robert did pales compared to what the Chinese have done in more recent times to America. Secondly tea was already taken out of China by Japanese monks in the 7th century A.D., or there about. Also China gave tea to plant to the Koreans in about the same time. But prof. Zheng seems okay with that.

  • @csaracho2009
    @csaracho2009 Месяц назад +14

    The 'first industrial theft" was that of the silk making from silkworms, many centuries before. And also the secrets to making gunpowder, also.

    • @Catlady77777
      @Catlady77777 Месяц назад

      Oops

    • @alomaalber6514
      @alomaalber6514 23 дня назад

      the YOU TUBE documentary on the Opium Trade and Boxer Rellion a must! and the one on Magellian! good stuff here on YOU TUBE and free audio books too.

    • @s._3560
      @s._3560 12 дней назад

      Also porcelain by Jesuit priests.

    • @alomaalber6514
      @alomaalber6514 12 дней назад

      @@s._3560 as yes the beloved Blue and White china! still popular today!

  • @zhouzhang9102
    @zhouzhang9102 Месяц назад +2

    Very much over dramatised blurb and story generally. It's worth reading Fortune's own first hand account for a more balanced version, which is far more impressive, informative and factual, in my opinion, without the drama and hype.

  • @phil20_20
    @phil20_20 18 дней назад +1

    "Robert Makes His Fortune" 🥠 - I highly recommend a cup of tea upon embarking this adventure.

  • @airmaxjoe
    @airmaxjoe Месяц назад +9

    Not a fan of how this guy’s story is being spun as a positive thing. feels pretty evil and nefarious, and he should be viewed very poorly.

  • @ChristopherBowly
    @ChristopherBowly 2 месяца назад +7

    Excellent documentary . Very interesting & informative & well presented & illustrated. Very many thanks.

  • @michaelrowsell1160
    @michaelrowsell1160 Месяц назад +1

    So in conclusion Ceylon ,India ,Kenya and many other places need to thank the British .

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 2 месяца назад +7

    It was an informative and wonderful historical coverage documentary shared by an excellent ( Slice full Doc) channel. Documentary about (tea ,silver, opium) as commercial commodities between Great Britain 🇬🇧 and the Chinese empire ... escalated to opium wars between China and Britain...Britain imposed its tyrannical conditions upon humiliated China at that time...thank humiliation leftover devastated phenomena in China until the end of WW2.

  • @sailordoc2818
    @sailordoc2818 Месяц назад +4

    The Brits stole from other people ?? .. no way

  • @dalebriansmith4029
    @dalebriansmith4029 Месяц назад +3

    vocal fry was excessive and distracting

  • @christianwitness
    @christianwitness 2 месяца назад +9

    I drink unsweetened black tea every day. I am 78. Carry on.

  • @jsa-z1722
    @jsa-z1722 Месяц назад +1

    The Buddha did NOT rip out his eyelids. His EYELASHES.

  • @alexanderjentes
    @alexanderjentes 2 месяца назад +4

    A fascinating story!

  • @Michigander269
    @Michigander269 Месяц назад +1

    Im only here due to my reflexive impulse to check what the misspelled title implied. I don't even drink tea, much less ever contemplated it's origins and history...still, pretty interesting and well made. Good job 🤙

  • @TheCdecisneros
    @TheCdecisneros Месяц назад +1

    LIke when Reagen said to then President of Mexico De La Madrid ."stop selling us Marijuana. DLM answered ," NO Mr. President, Your people have to stop buying it.

  • @llee4225
    @llee4225 Месяц назад +1

    Is that where "making a fortune" comes from?

  • @mechannel7046
    @mechannel7046 Месяц назад +1

    14:00 Over 200 varieties of plants were introduced from China to Britain 17:20 China history podcast

  • @martinanderson4721
    @martinanderson4721 25 дней назад

    The departure from Britain by Fortune in the Peninsular and Orient shipping Company vessel Ripon.. This shipping line was founded by 2 Officers who had served in the British Army in Spain to get the French out.( Salamanca, Valladolid, Fuentes etc Hence P & O. 😮

  • @daveb0t82
    @daveb0t82 2 месяца назад +2

    Fascinating.

  • @aryanhan506
    @aryanhan506 Месяц назад +1

    STOLEN FROM the Chinese ……..who is semi literate or deliberate to write ‘stolen to the Chinese’ ????

  • @ambindia
    @ambindia 26 дней назад

    Very informative. A few questions....
    How did tea get to Japan and when?
    Central Asia?

  • @margitwes6495
    @margitwes6495 16 дней назад +1

    He was a thief and a fortune hunter. Funny how we still fight wars today to steal other countries riches.

  • @Thaile37
    @Thaile37 2 дня назад

    Green tea was discovered by British at that time not “first discovered”… that was 2737 BCE, firstly by the Chinese by centuries… I mean it’s obvious but why are they saying “first discovered?”

  • @artfasil
    @artfasil Месяц назад +1

    They stoles it, my precious.

  • @AndyJarman
    @AndyJarman Месяц назад +1

    29:10 God forbid any Chinese oroducts be 'stoken' from the West!

  • @gkoknok6076
    @gkoknok6076 2 месяца назад +4

    Show would be better without the woke professor spreading her bullshit.

    • @markthompson180
      @markthompson180 Месяц назад +1

      yet another example of "woke" being way overused... Just say you didn't agree with her, or is that too painful?

  • @jorgedufeng1626
    @jorgedufeng1626 2 месяца назад +6

    Well, lot of things were stolen or cheated out…

    • @harryhole5786
      @harryhole5786 2 месяца назад

      You cannot steal a plant, it's mine ! No, nobody owns a plant, if you abuse of it: you get "stolen". That's commerce, you abuse on prices, you loose your business. Didn't you learn that on monopoly school or did you sleep at lessons?

    • @xavisanchez7522
      @xavisanchez7522 Месяц назад

      What is unjustifiable is to see 800/900 million people spreading inquisition when the censorship times are over and everyone is free to embrace again their native languages rather than using a genocide for purposes language( modern day spanish

  • @danguee1
    @danguee1 19 дней назад

    29:06 that's rich, Lady! Complaining about 'espionage'.... There were no IP rights on that - he just observed a process and made notes. We should all applaud the dissemination of tea to the world. Since when have we started feeling sorry for monopolists?

  • @alomaalber6514
    @alomaalber6514 23 дня назад

    Also the YOU TUBE on the Opium Trade and Boxer Rebellion a must. And the one entitled Magellian.

  • @Mustang94c
    @Mustang94c 20 дней назад

    I love how the Chinese historian first wish is to steal the tea back like the Chinese never steal anything 😂

  • @AndyJarman
    @AndyJarman Месяц назад

    I am gladdened to see there are some beautiful places left in China.

  • @huntergray3985
    @huntergray3985 10 дней назад

    Given China's predilection for stealing Western technology, it seems rather rich moaning about taking a few tea seeds. Can anyone think of another crop, any crop, that is now grown internationally, but which once was claimed by one country as the only country in the world with the right to grow it? (Not including GMO or patented crop varieties, which have a limited protection for a short period of time.)

  • @johnathandaviddunster38
    @johnathandaviddunster38 Месяц назад +5

    London cockney rhyming slang " Tea Leaf = Thief " 🤑😜💩

  • @chrismac2234
    @chrismac2234 17 дней назад

    If we stole tea from China. Then get off our steam engines the Computers. Penicillin, dentistry, pain relief. Our atom bombs, the list is endless

  • @anwiycti1585
    @anwiycti1585 2 месяца назад +1

    How were the lives of plantation worker comparative to cooli’s at its origin?

  • @London97
    @London97 2 месяца назад

    Love this kind of content !😊

  • @leololauzone
    @leololauzone 19 дней назад

    I loooved it! ❤

  • @Mayadanava
    @Mayadanava 8 дней назад

    Um stealing silk worms... I think that wins by almost 500 years.

  • @hafunland894
    @hafunland894 Месяц назад

    Perhaps anyone who enjoys fine tea should thank the creative industrious Chinese...

  • @martinanderson4721
    @martinanderson4721 23 дня назад

    The Narrator doesn't refer to the Great Philosophy of Confucius.

  • @dineshsoundararajan3274
    @dineshsoundararajan3274 2 месяца назад +5

    Love how they show the contrast between the indifferent/racist view of the white lady with the asian lady in two three places 😂

    • @robinsonrex1280
      @robinsonrex1280 Месяц назад +2

      Wait till you move to Malaysia and Singapore and experience the racism of your fellow Asians over there.

  • @martinanderson4721
    @martinanderson4721 23 дня назад

    The 1920s Flapper Song
    🎵 Shanghai Lil - looking for my Shanhai Lil. "

  • @Arwar555
    @Arwar555 Месяц назад +2

    Thank you Mr Fortune. May you RIP . You have made us people fron Sylhet very wealthy due to your acts. We now grow the best and most expensive tea in the world ...due to YOU SIR!!!!

  • @yorkiesweetpea23
    @yorkiesweetpea23 Месяц назад

    Seriously, who did the title? 🤦🏻‍♀️
    I had assumed the video wouldn't be in English, or that the captions/sub titles would be horrible, due to the botched wordings in the title.

  • @LPRH246
    @LPRH246 Месяц назад +2

    Perhaps a cup of tea some opium a good lie down and think about merry old England

  • @glorioskey
    @glorioskey 16 дней назад

    Why don't speakers get voice coaches!

  • @brucelu4782
    @brucelu4782 16 дней назад

    Porcelain/China was stolen too.

  • @timburrows5807
    @timburrows5807 16 дней назад

    If the chinese want reparations for their tea they can get lost,i drink coffee.

  • @sarcasmo57
    @sarcasmo57 16 дней назад

    Tea is yummy.

  • @benhassan11
    @benhassan11 2 дня назад

    The title should be: One more item stolen by the English.

  • @martinanderson4721
    @martinanderson4721 23 дня назад

    The Logbook of the Cutty Sark.

  • @nphipps9406
    @nphipps9406 2 месяца назад

    in other words, coolies are the same as a particular name they are calling native Africans and Indians?

  • @brianwood1041
    @brianwood1041 16 дней назад

    The Buddha story , was out of place for the spirit of the Buddha and dharma

  • @golgumbazguide...4113
    @golgumbazguide...4113 Месяц назад

    Explore Golgumbaz Deccan india 🇮🇳

  • @kennethmorrison7689
    @kennethmorrison7689 2 месяца назад +1

    Chinese green tea not favored in England nor in all of Europe. Somewhere a YT video exists which I watched a few years ago. It was posted by a scientist & he clamed that black Indian tea had germ & bacterial protections & helped the poor endure the Industrial revolution and caused great benefits to their society.

    • @Janovial
      @Janovial 2 месяца назад +3

      Chinese tea are many kinds. Black is one of them.

    • @NCM-xy8ow
      @NCM-xy8ow 2 месяца назад +1

      Chinese tea is mostly black tea

    • @jacku8304
      @jacku8304 Месяц назад +3

      There is no such thing as black India Tea as it was stolen out of China and brought into the British colony in 19th century. It was introduced to India by the British to overcome the monopoly of Chinese production. The first area to be planted was the mountain region surrounding the city of Darjeeling, perched on the Himalayan foothills, in the 1850s. Darjeeling covers the history of Darjeeling town and its adjoining hill areas belonging to Sikkim, but eventually part of British India. The British illegally incorporated Darjeeling into the British created India and give its independence in1947. India annexed Sikkim in 1975.

  • @markthompson180
    @markthompson180 Месяц назад

    What kind of "Scottish" accent was that?

  • @glorioskey
    @glorioskey 16 дней назад

    Oh no the tinny voice with fry!😖

  • @user-qj5my9fk2j
    @user-qj5my9fk2j Месяц назад

    The british what could i said horsethieves they stole gibraltar from spain

  • @370530e
    @370530e 2 месяца назад

    Check the story of Henry Wickham.

    • @martinwilby8942
      @martinwilby8942 Месяц назад

      who please explain i have googled the name and nothing is coming up of interest

  • @carlabroderick5508
    @carlabroderick5508 Месяц назад +1

    Industrial secrets are guarded as the wealth of any nation. Likewise, they will eventually be pilfered however, a process of globalization of knowledge. We respect China’s guarding its secrets at the time, but we hate the monopolization of seeds practiced by Monsanto now. We deplore the loss of wealth by one nation then, but blame it for our own loss of individual wealth, such as when our manufacturing was ended by China’s ingenuity and huge labor population.

  • @helenachase5627
    @helenachase5627 Месяц назад

    The female's voice is unbearable

  • @Simonsays7258
    @Simonsays7258 2 месяца назад

    Karma is

  • @uwusmolbean
    @uwusmolbean Месяц назад

    Mo 🌈

  • @royupton2031
    @royupton2031 2 месяца назад +1

    Yanks know f**k all about tea, so why do we have 2 of them narrating this tale

    • @RichieTyndall
      @RichieTyndall 2 месяца назад +1

      Your opening statement is sweeping. Some Americans do know about tea. Film narrators don’t necessarily have to know the subject about which they are narrating. They just need to know how to speak clearly.

    • @xavisanchez7522
      @xavisanchez7522 Месяц назад +1

      Of course you know all, but not for american or english, but thanks to the companies founded by the catalans, the same ones that founded cala forn, arida zona and terra florida.

    • @xavisanchez7522
      @xavisanchez7522 Месяц назад

      @@RichieTyndallamericans are english speakers.

    • @oml81mm
      @oml81mm Месяц назад

      Tea is grown in the USA, especially in one of the Carolinas (forget which one) and, in a smaller way, in quite a few other states as well!

  • @jesse89625
    @jesse89625 Месяц назад +1

    UK was a joke before 1700

    • @markthompson180
      @markthompson180 Месяц назад +2

      I know, right? Because it didn't exist until 1801... 😜

    • @martinwilby8942
      @martinwilby8942 Месяц назад

      @@markthompson180 its worse now

  • @nangdarin1655
    @nangdarin1655 16 дней назад

    So the "honorable"??? East India company hired a THIEF to steal the secrets of tea from the Chinese??😂😅 What is this? Sarcasm! Or plain stupidity of the writer and narrator