What Happened to the LEGO Star Wars Community ? A LEGO Star WArs Brickfilm Documentary
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Hey everyone !
This is a video I wanted to make for a While now !
The future of LEGO Star Wars Stop Motion is just too important for the LEGO Star Wars community on RUclips, we cannot let it die !
This video features @TritonAnimations @BrickTaleStudios @StudioSmith @Huff-Productions @FerstelloStudios @COOLGUY9201 @PORGSTUDIOS @Brickregent @frontloaderman @Agent_Echo @3.r.studios6481 @TenToAceStudios @PixelPieceProductions @pizzamovies @MegaSpaceFighter @SolidBrixStudios @coconutbricksstudios and so many other people from our great community ! Thanks to all of you guys !
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Thanks to all of you for your support it's been an amazing Journey !
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Just finished watching that, yeah I think a lot of brickfilms have noticed a decline in their views but you have really cleared up why that as. I think while SW is in the hands of Disney it isn't making the greatest name for itself with so much content being released by them it is bound to be hit and miss. I think you are right in that because of that it takes away interest from brickfilmers due to this overdose of content. Excellent video btw, I saw Watermelon Studios documentary on battlepacks hey maybe documentaries might be the way to go next lol...
Thanks mate yeah thats how it is now only time will tell about the future... Jeez I missed your name in the video 💀 gonna correct that in description !
Absolutely incredible video blackbird this perfectly describes the state of the Lego Star Wars community and I hope that this video brings attention to why it is important to support the small creators since stop motion is not an easy hobby and that is important for our work to be recognized as an integral part of this community as it has always been.
Yes stop motion had much more recognition in the past we should get that back !
Hey, I just watched your video and I can say that you potrayed the topic quite well. I thought about the question often too and I think it has a lot of reasons, why the community shrinks, gets less views and stuff like that. First of all, I´m from Germany and I mostly know stuff about the German community and I need to say, that it is the same pattern showed in your video.
I started with Lego YT around 2015 and created my channel in 2017. For me this was the Golden Age, with a lot of views and a still quite active community. After that around 2018-2019 people started to leave the community and views became less. I also know quite a lot of people in the Lego ww2/military Community (mainly MOC builders, like myself) and the reason a lot of them left was mainly life. The just became older and didn´t had the time or interesst anymore to create Content. Also at the time YT got a new Algorythmus that pushed questionable Content on the side and gave topics like LEGO Stop Motion and smaller channels way less of a plattform. The content was not as much suggest on people YT accounts then before. Another thought I have is that, kids today aren´t that much interessted in LEGO Star Wars Stop Motions then before, Gaming became more popular, LEGO even more expensive = so less people joining the Community or atleast became interessted in Stop Motion Content.
For me personal I lacked more and more motivation and the only thing that really kept me in the community was the LUGs (Lego User Groups) I´m a member of. For that reason I still built MOCs in the context of a Collab and even founded my own German LUG that got quite succsessful in the last two years. And even there I see especially people who are long members of the com start leaving or became less and less active. Again life, becaming older, stress in school, university, work or whatever can be reasons.
Another point I read in the comments here, is that since Disney overtook Star Wars, less good new content came out. I mean the stop motion community peaked with Star Wars The Clone Wars and since that is over the generation who grow up with TCW is way less active or just leaves the com after after another. And for sure the are still quite a lot of Kids who like Star Wars, but it is not the same vibe, energy and or time then like 5 to 15 years ago in my opinion.
I myself started to became more active again in September this year and I really see that even when I make more and better content like 2-3 years before, views and stuff like that are still really bad. I also have a ton of dead subscribers that doesen´t help too. Overall I continue, because it can still makes fun to build and being part of a LUG.
Thanks for reading and I hope everything was understandble. Greetings from Germany and keep up your Content! :D
Thanks for your long message mate I really appreciate the support ! Unfortunately yes this is a global problem that occurs in the whole LEGO community and Tik Tok is also drawing people away from RUclips ...
Bro this was so well edited, I used to love watching Mandr, but I realized how he doesn’t care for the whole community. It makes me sad how much effort is put into these cinematic masterpieces, just for them to go almost unrecognized. I will continue to support as many of these films as I find, and hope it gets better
Thanks for your support 🙌
i agree with you the way i see it moc builders and reviewers are people who have chosen to make lego star wars their career while the people who make stop motions do it with alot of passion and alot of them probably have other jobs and generally enjoy making animations
Well MOCs are made by creative people too but reviewers are just business people
Let's be honest, stop motion makers and MOC builders work the hardest for little reward and all these commentators and reviewers are the celebrities by just giving there thoughts.
As long as we have fun that's all that matters! Keep killing it bro! At the end of the day, They can't present anything to inspire others, that's our job!
God bless!
Yep that's right mate, when I'm looking on RUclips I wanna see what people create with their LEGO not 100 reviews of the same set that aint no creation
This inspires to make Lego Star wars Stop motion,I haven't made one in a while because of lack of motivation and there isn't any new Lego star wars Stop Motion which is sad but I hope the community gets much better!
Hope it will help 🙌
Your points are very fair, although it may seem that these brickfilms aren't getting as much views as other stuff, they are still an important part to the community in exposing new stories and possibilities in Star Wars, that professional companies can't make due to Disney. Us brickfilmers can, and watching them are so cool to see stories come to life that some people only imagined might have happened commercially.
Yes sir fan stories are always good to see 🙌
As a new brickfilmer, I totally get what you mean, I remember when I was much younger and I was watching fancy pants and all those popular stop motions. It was amazing and views were insane on all these huge battles and so on, I loved watching everything Lego Star Wars related back then. When I decided to upload I realized that a lot of the og guys were gone and there is not that many viewers anymore. Anyway we’ll have to support each other, even big or smallest creators. I hope to get my brickfilms out there for all to enjoy. Thanks for making this video🙏
Thank you for your feedback and support mate ! Well yeah it's sad that every OG creators left only Forrest and a few others are left and still making awesome lego movies ! The MOC and Brickfilm community is still strong on youtube hopefully !
Wonderful video as always Blackbird. Although I haven’t been as active as I’d like in the brickfilming scene to see the effect of this, I have experienced the same thing as a musician. No one gets to see the WEEKS of hard work you put into your story or your song, they only get to see the 3 minute song or animation that you created. When you have content like leaks/reviews that pretty much creates itself, it starts to make sense why views are so down for passion projects and original content like Star Wars brickfilmers.
And while this would probably discourage most people, I think it will have the opposite effect on this community. The sheer amount of support and collaboration I have seen among the Lego Star Wars stop motion community is very inspiring, so much so that I’ve gone back and remastered a brickfilm I made 6 years ago.
Like you said, we definitely don’t do this for money; I think we do it to share our ideas and stories with people who appreciate and love it: this community.
Thanks for your support ! Well this is how social media works today a poor video gets more views than a serious project because it's "fun" or its in the trends etc... no more justice here you dont even know why or how a video can be promoted by the algorithm today
@@blackbirdmotionstudios7423 The thing is even with jumping on trends the yt algorithm still is unlikely to work in your favor especially based off other videos u have made
@@thebrickfilmbros yep thats right 🙌
You make some great points. I think that stop motions will always be a big focus in the community but I think sometimes Star Wars stories can get burnout. Sometimes they all feel the same. Which can affect views. Hopefully we’ll keep getting great, quality content in the future!
Yes sir 🔥🔥🔥
Good points man. Not sure if I’d agree with everything you said, but probably the majority.
From my experience and releasing Escaping Utapau, I found that advertising the brickfilm before it’s release date on my Instagram page really helped bump it up on the RUclips algorithm. Most of my traffic for that brickfilm comes from RUclips’s recommendations now, so it’s obvious that RUclips has (what I think) too much control over what people are exposed to in terms of videos they’d like to see. Social media has changed a lot since I started making brickfilms (2009), it was a lot easier to get views and subscribers then.
There was definitely a dark period for the brickfilm community (2012-2015 roughly?) which could have possibly played a role in RUclips’s decision to not expose brickfilms as much because they weren’t gaining traction and major brickfilm channels were going dark. But I think over the years, it’s grown. We have newer and younger creators rising that I think could help make brickfilms great again. 😉 haha
Yeah lot of people have left lot of channels are gone today hopefully we got fresh new talented people here
Well said. Nowadays social media focusses on 20 second clips instead of longer videos.
@@legoworld123 yeah the shorts fucked up the algorithm...
I just watched this fully and largely agree. It unfortunately seems the LEGO SW community is losing interest in stop motions (unless they’re absolutely phenomenal) and instead going for set reviews/LEGO rumour vids. Also, fewer people have been surfing youtube after the pandemic ended which is a shame. Insightful documentary, Blackbird!
Oh thanks mate ! Hopefully you're a strong pillar in the community !
A very informative and in depth vid. I hope we get better Star Wars content soon to help revitalize our fan bases. Thanks for letting me be a part of this!
Thanks to you mate glad you appreaciate the video !
You will always be apart our community
Thank you commander 🔥
@@blackbirdmotionstudios7423 no problem general
I was talking about this with one of my friends the other day. I think now with the lego community in general its now more about reviews and leaks rather than about actually creating. But I feel like for SW brickfilms and mocs even tho views may be down theres always something special about them when it is made by fans and a lot of effort and love has been put into it. Theres still so much to explore from legends and canon that anyone can appreciate the work that goes into it. From a fellow animator those vids may not generate the most amount of views but at least its something for someone to enjoy and then go back to like all the SW films. As long as we have fun making them and it makes someones day a little better it's all that matters in my eyes. With that great vid as always!
Yeah we need more creativity in the LEGO Star Wars Community these days reviewers are getting too much credit and most of the time its just one copying another
Agreed i feel like the only thing people get hyped for are cool guys Steve the stromtropper
Well everyhting should hype people but I think brickfilms and MOCs should be more supported in general than reviews and leaks
Hey mate, you've made some good points. I've been out of the community for a while now. It's sad to see it went downhill like this. As a kid watching those stop motions and creating them really gave me good times. Hope it gets better soon :)
Thanks mate ! I hope it will too
very nice documentary 👍
Thanks mate
Really interesting video and you make a lot of good points.
I think Brickfilms/Lego Stop-motions will always be around for as long as Lego Star Wars is kicking as there will always be people wanting to try their hand at making their own fanfic/stories/creations.
However, it does seem like Animators get significantly less recognition than Commentary or review channels do, which I suppose in a way makes sense as people will want to know what is coming out next wave or research a set before buying.
Still, it would be nice to see the talent that exists in on the platform be recognised as there are a HUGE amount of smaller channels who are of making some really impressive stuff.
Thanks mate, I do hope there will still be a room for lego star Wars brickfilms on RUclips 🙌
I think you have brought up some very good points in your video and totally agree with you. I personally buy the stuff in order to display it and make my own little videos and as you said, people like me were isnpired by watching your videos and those from the other animators. All of you guys have been such a great inspiration for me and probably a lot of other people out there. You should neer be forgotten as it is also you guys who shape the LEGO Star Wars community in a way no leaker or MOC builder can do as you literally bring the minifigures to life and tell stories with them that no MOOCcould. Thank you all so much for being awesome and despite the decline in views making our animations for us to enjoy.
Mazbe it would also be good to form a Star Wars brickfilm community.
Thank you so much for your message mate !
I love watching stop motions and I do like watching yours and Coolguys because both of you guys make really good Clonewars brickflims and it inspires me to make my own. Hope to see more content and can you please do something with Delta squad.
Thanks for your feedback 🔥 need commandos figures I will see haha
back in 2007 when lego use to did star wars movie making content stop motion
stop motion will never be forgotten
many viewers would get interested lego animation and some mocs, nathanwells, squad 42, forestfire101, keshen8 and many more
Yes sir
Look at this man
This, is a gigachad
And mandr should probably go take some time to explain how does him ranting about not getting a new lego rex or something matter more than people who take their time to make something creative and truly amazing
Hahaha thanks man 😂 The thing is he's not really doing anything he thinks he decides what LEGO gonna release like studs they're like this set exists because of me eh no
Yeah I used to watch studs I still do here and there but I agree with what your saying
I remember when the only thing I know about Star Wars on RUclips was Fans making Stop Motions, it was my inspiration that started my channel and my escapism from the Community Drama that affects the Wider Star Wars Community just to preserve my enjoyment of a Space Oprea in a Galaxy Far Far Away in a time the only thing you see on RUclips about Star Wars is mostly the negative rather then the positive, and these Animations are place of refuge, so now it might be a good opportunity to Honor these Individuals for giving us something entertaining to watch and enjoy
Stop motion makers work so hard to produce these animations but other people can put in minimal effort and rant about a LEGO set and get all of the fame, I’ve been working on one stop motion for 5 years! At the very least I have fun doing it, and seeing that a few people enjoy all of the hardwork put into these videos is all the reward I want
Yes mate community support is the best thing for a creator !
Battle droids being stiff and lack really the expressive emotions really needed to bring some life back to stop motions is perhaps one of the reasons for its decline.
You legit look like David Tennant
First time I hear that he's a great actor so I'll take that as a nice compliment hahaha
@@blackbirdmotionstudios7423 good haha
Totally agreed with you, there are a ton of lego reviews that just give their thoughts if you are going to purchase a lego set, however that kind of video are disposable, one one watch it once and thats all. If a stopmition is very good you will rewatch it many times. This part of the community is not dead at all or in decline. I just think currently they are on a pit in search for rise up again.
I think we need more stop motion creators today to boost the films for the algorithm the more stop motions and views you got the more it will be in recommanded
Yeah, I completely agree with you! People’s set reviews are nothing special but almost the same. I made a stop motion video which is an alternative Ep9 story. People liked it and I felt that I can do something Disney wouldn’t do. So yeah, we always need lego star wars brick-films!!
Yes sir creativity is always awesome to see !
I made it to be my Task to save the Lego Star Wars Stop Motion Community with many others.
Thats what we're trying to do 🙌
@@blackbirdmotionstudios7423 And I’m sure we will win this… should I call it War?
Great video, imo I think that Moc builders and Lego Stop motion makers deserve way more attention as they are the ones thinking creatively and maintaining the values of Lego and Star Wars which is imagination and creativity. Meanwhile, you have the RUclipsrs who are tearing the Lego community apart through controversy and drama yet they get substantially more attention than moc buildings and stop motion makers. But tbh this doesn't really bother me that much as I'm having fun doing what I love
Thanks mate 🙌 Yeah as long as everyone Can see the content they like thats fine but brickfilmers are leaving so not so much left to watch 😅
Disney pulled the plug on the EU so I cut the cash flow from the wallet to the outstretched hand
Yes Captain chief
Ryan's kinda right, the RUclips algorithm isn't really recommending stop motions that much and they are pretty hard to get views. I used to make stop motions a lot and they don't really get the views anymore. Not to say that they aren't there or don't matter, they just aren't that popular anymore.
He's not talking about popularity he's saying that we dont belong to the Lego star wars community anymore
Dam bro, I can't believe that some people think that we aren't part of the community anymore, we were there in the beginning
And these people have an influence on their 500k subs... yeah that's alarming
Yeh feeling the pain or my videos are just not that good ): any way you are right about everything you said in the video.
It's not you mate its youtube and a lot of non controllable things, glad you liked the video 🙌
I agree with what your saying I’m a part time stop motion creator who started last year and I Realized that my stop motions don’t get as many views as some small lego commentary creators
Yeah for some reasons reviews leaks and commentaries are more recommanded than brickfilms and MOCs
@@blackbirdmotionstudios7423 yeah
I totally agree! We make brick films solely because of our passion to create and share original stories through Lego. We make stories because we cannot not make them… if that makes sense 😂Awesome project man! Sorry I’ve been pretty inactive on the discord, I would have loved to help out! Great work nonetheless!
Thanks for your support mate cant wait for your next brickfilm do not hesitate to post some bts shots on the discord !
In my opinion making star wars stop motions are part of the community and not only that but it's a fun thing to do like I dobt understand why he said it wasnt part of the community if a fan made it with using star wars characters
The Reality is that a lot of people have become nothing but Lego Pimps and Pimpettes. They tell you that you have to buy the next Lego set and then the next. So we the public just get sick of them and just stop watching and caring.
Yeah a lot of people are upset with the leakers and rumor guys on YT
Amazing video!
I'm hopeful that the brickfilm community will continue to be relevant. Sorry for the egotism, but there are projects I want to make and be able to share with the community. The only obstacles are time and our lives outside the platform. Not everyone makes money on RUclips full time nor believes in the immoral practice of crowdfunding like Patreon (I know I hate it with a passion). When I look at your content, AJV's, Doodledood, ASAP Animation, Utty L, EndFlight Productions to name a few, the Expanded Universe of books, comics, shows and games we grew up loving alongside the films (which I still consider canon in my honest opinion, screw Di$ney), you make it relevant again. It reminds us all of the good content and shows the love we have for the material. Don't give up on that, mate, your content is epic.
I'm gonna end with a bit of a rant there, I apologize but Ryan seems really hypocritical to me when I hear this statement... I just *can't* stand this guy, Just2Good, Republic Studs and other Lego influencers/commenters like them... They don't represent us, period. I don't care what people say on that matter.
Edit; I forgot to add this more positive note. Have you seen Darkmoonstudios' super badass project he's currently working on? This could be the next "From The Ashes" imo. Remember that Clone Wars Lego brickfilm that took 10 years in the making from MakeNoiseMan Studios?
Thanks mate ! I do hope the best for the future of brickfilms if film makers are losing motivation there wont be so much good stuff left here
Amazing video as always, you made some Great commentary and explanations and points, Let's be honest if you make stop motions with Legos or actions figures it matters! With out stop motion who keep star wars relevant anymore or alive? The answer is obvious is us. the stop motion animators that's who. As we keep the legacy alive for people to enjoy.
Thanks for you feedback mate ! Hopefully we will continue to keep the brickfilm community united and active !
As a stop motion fan since pizzamovies released his videos, I can say that most of the times I want simplicity and a little bit of comedy. Not so much story telling.
In some videos there’s a lot of background to make a final battle, too much dialogue.
We need to go back to the best ones:
Fancy pants and pizza movies
They did comedy and simplicity.
That is why almost all the community loves them.
Dude I wish that all the Stopmotions would revive again. Honestly, I loved lego stopmos and figure ones all the same. If I had to hazard a guess I would assume its the lack of exciting figures. I mean sure, NOW THEY ARE BETTER but for awhile there was a lack of good figures. Starwars content now adays just feels a tad more lazy to me. Commentary is good but it just isnt the same as people putting hours in to make a short film. I just feel theres no community.
Also theres no good review channels either. Filmmakermike and sithlord229 used to bring alot of hype to figures.
Agreed especially after finding small unnoticed Lego Star Wars RUclipsrs who make Stop Motions that are only getting under 100 views, and the only thing I can do is offer compliments hoping that it will motivate them to continue.
Lego Star Wars Stopmotions made Lego Star Wars itself better than it originally was, its a shame there are people that claim it's dead.
PS. Im the 66th like on this video X)
It's worse he thinks that we dont belong to the community 💀 well done my lord
Sans les stop-motions de l'époque, la communauté ne serait jamais ce qu'elle est aujourd'hui.
Les présentations sont biens mais rien ne vaut un stop-motion de par sa qualité, le scénario l'originalité et le caractère unique d'un stop-motion tandis qu'une présentation ne le sera jamais vraiment.
En 2023 beaucoup se souviennent encore de Pizzamovies et Spugesdu.
Mandr a dit qu'on était plus dans la communauté donc bon mdr mdr
@@blackbirdmotionstudios7423 Je l'aime bien mais il prend trop la confiance.
Arès on ne peut nier que les stop-motions ne représentent plus qu'une petite partie du contenu et que la qualité de ces derniers s'est érodée au fil du temps.
@@agrimodding2835 Je suis d'accord mais la qualité au contraire est plus élevée maintenant je vois d'autres animateurs comme JD bricks ou Studio smith c'est des stop motions niveau Hollywood
I gotta be honest... Blackbird Stopmotion is one of the few channels that I actually wait for the next video 'cause I know it's always gonna be something else...
Thank' you so much for your support mate 🙌
@@blackbirdmotionstudios7423 no problem, I really enjoyed your documentary type video, it really puts alot of things in perspective... especially the opinion of certain ignorant people cof* cof* m&r* cof*
I’d say one of the problems stop motion creators make is making unoriginal content. There are tons of animations that are just simple battles without any real story or characters. (If it’s your first animation then that’s fine, but it gets boring after a while). My advice if you ever want to make a battle: have characters with dialogue, and a story to go with it.
I agree long story episodes are better
Agreed and now your wondering why I'm making a Star Wars Story in the Sequels instead of the Prequels because most Prequel Era Lego Star Wars Stories sometimes follow the Same format as Pizzamovies, regardless how you feel about the Sequels 2 Years after it gave us a unsatisfying ending, there are people in this community who aren't afraid of making a Story in a Era everyone looks down upon, and here's me Experimenting 20 plus minute Episodes for my Forced Campaign Series trying to do a style of writing that the Action Figure Stop Motion Community does, or adapt Story elements from other Media I consumed.
To be fair MandR has a point, the Lego Star Wars stop motion community is no where near as big as it used to be
Yes but saying this and not helping is kinda useless. He has the possibility to promote and help creators he just doesnt care 🤷
Maybe the brickfim shorts videos are taking away views from the longer ones and get in the algorithm better
Yeah but you got no money from shorts
@@blackbirdmotionstudios7423 So? the algorithm and viewers don't care
@@LegoCat300 I was talking about the creators. Shorts are bad for youtubers
@@blackbirdmotionstudios7423 I understand, but I was just giving a reason for maybe why the longer ones are not doing to well.