Why Christianity is Impossible to Believe (Christopher Hitchens)
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- Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024
- Brief excerpt from the documentary "Collision" with Christopher Hitchens and Douglas Wilson.
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I never met the man, yet somehow, i often miss him like i know him personally.
+Joshua Robles
Right with ya, buddy!
Long live Hitchens' memory
Atheos A.T. Five ....he has a brother. His voice sound just like Christopher's voice.
Me, too
if you have read his works, you do know him personally
lucky you
Not only will Hitchens never be forgotten, we KNOW he actually existed.
you may not know the missing links that lead up to His evolution existed though, since they aren't in the ground...
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+Sha Ko OK sha so what if we know he existed? We also know for a FACT that Jesus existed. Not a single historian would argue this fact. Maybe 1 or 2 in the whole freaking world!!!! And those 1 or 2 are charlatans (Richard Carrier). We have as much proof Jesus existed as that Hitchens existed.
James Berry Grow up you simpleton, you utter fool and accept reality. "The Christ myth found fertile soil in the Soviet Union, where it was supported by Sergey Kovalev, Alexander Kazhdan, Abram Ranovich, Nikolai Rumyantsev, Robert Vipper and Yuri Frantsev.[108] Later, however, several scholars, including Kazhdan, retracted their views about mythical Jesus and by the end of the 1980s Iosif Kryvelev remained as virtually the only proponent of Christ myth theory in Soviet academia.[109]
"There is near universal assent that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist and was crucified under Pontius Pilate"[11]
James Berry Are you freaking mad? The reason I mentioned the Soviet Union is because no one, no historian, ever argued the historicity of Jesus until the Soviet Union started trying to prove it (hence why it said the movement found fertile ground).
Oh please, do pick up a book !
Hitchslap statement
"Cannot be believed by a thinking person"
RIP
what about jordan perterson
Rapper NB his shit on the Hitch’s heel
@@N8-198 you answered your own question
@@poozer1986 sorry when i made this comment 2 years aog, i was dumb. I now realize jordan peterson is a dumb grifter.
He was actually the man who pushed me over the edge into non-belief. For this, I thank him.
yes he was spitting logic for sure, but i wouldnt say there is nothing else going on in this reality. Psychedelics and dimensions are quite intriguing and amazing to experience. For a while i figured death is known to us already, just not existing of course. Now i dont know, i dont have a solid opinion on what comes after death because there is truly infinite possibilities.
Non-belief = not knowing.
Because, after all, who REALLY knows.
Same. I'll bet 50% or more people who identify as Atheist would say the same. Hitchens was the one that cinched it for me. After hearing him a few times, I was 💯 done. There was no more doubting my belief because I had no more belief.
@@lagodifuoco313thats what the Devil wants (i dont mean Christopher!) sometimes we have to deconstruct parts of our faith to build it stronger together but when we dont have Jesus as the fundament how can we build it back together in the right way?
@eli-gabriel7870
The devil exists exactly as much as god does. Not at all.
I found Christopher Hitchens within only months before he passed. I wish I had not had my head up my ass and had come to my senses years earlier and recognized Christianity for the fatuous BS it is.... I might have found Hitchens much earlier. I would love to hear his views and thoughts on Twitter on current events. Thanks to theses excellent RUclips videos I'm able to catch up on my Hitchens I missed while still under the effects of 'southern societal Christian indoctrination'
+bi0lizard1 Why do you think he was right. Virtually everything he just said is incorrect and based on poor conjecture, sure aided by effects and music to present this as a brilliant world changing critique, but conjecture non the less ( when you really look at it form an objective stand point).
+vedran lekić I found his views penetrating and incisive. He had such a rapier wit and unique way of cutting through the bullcrap. I never said he was infallible or incapable of error. (I'll leave those claims for the religious people to make)
Of course there is and he was wrong in every single instance at least in this exposition. Dont apologise for ignorance learn something.
+vedran lekić You're telling them learn something? Read the bible. Look at the values of your religion. You watch videos like this with your mind already made up before you press play. Let us see how wrong in stupid this person is on this subject. Already judging, already thinking of what nonsense is being spewed out of your speakers. Christians preach about love, yet they are the first people to point out everything wrong with everyone else; well, except with themselves. You preach God loves everyone. Jesus can set you free. Except, except, if you're a homosexual, Muslim, Jew, someone who eats pork or shellfish, wear cloth made of different fibers, are a woman that isn't a virgin on her wedding night, a kid that disrespects their own parents, or a child of inter-racial breeding. The list goes on and on. Christians have taken the bible and picked from the book what they want to believe in. The whole book is from your God, why don't you believe in all of it? You demand the 10 commandments to be put up all over this country in schools, courtrooms, every government building. Besides the 1st Amendment stopping that, there aren't 10 commandments. There are 613 commandments. Except for Christians, those other 603 commandments were only meant for the Jews, not us. Over 5,000 Gods have came before Yahweh and Allah, and they have all died. Guess who's God is next on that list?
Shane S- What you just said is terribly mislead and poor. Quote specific biblical verses or STFU. You cant just go around accusing people of these things. Dont you fear God? You wouldnt know what love wasunless there was Christianity that withheld a definition of self sacrificial love and that this definition of love was reproduced trough subsequent generations. The slavery was first abolished (in a permanent manner) because of a sentiment in Sachenspiegel in the 1220 that Men are made in an image of God and therefore to subjugate the image of God is a blasphemy. Why do you think people discarded slavery. No other civilisation did so in any permanent manner except the Christian European. In Dubrovnik anyone coming as a slave was instantly freed. That too was based on the value of humans to God. Since no man can serve two masters and the only master of humans was God claiming to be own humans was a grave sin. The value of human life was given to humans by God and that is why we even know that human life is valuable. Something that is less and less obvious in these "liberal" times. The value of human life resides in a concept of communal humanity that is strictly connected to Christianity. In India and China the collective human identity was non existent. It was castes and classes.
Other Gods never existed or existed as something else that was not a God. All other gods had a creator (so they were created) that they themselves worshiped and that is documented for almost all religions. These beings came to the earth made humans worship them, mated with human females and created demigods but they worshiped their creator ( the Annunaki worshipped the Word, the Gods of the Greek claimed that there was greater force behind the universe that controlled their destiny so that they were powerless before it etc.)
Bible claims that the eternal God created everything including the Messengers and the Watchers these watchers came to earth made humans worship them, they mated with human females and claimed that they worship God and were eventually punished.
The God is the God of Gods and the Lord of Lords.
So logically, there is no one God further maxim because all others were no gods to begin with.
I love seeing the gears start creaking into motion for the first time in all those young Christian heads as he's telling them how ridiculous it is to believe what they believe. The expressions on their faces vary from seething anger, confusion, doubt and on some even some understanding.
John Doe
Far better to believe that life arises spontaneously from dirt; and that this structured and axial universe arose from a fiery and chaotic explosion, and that we do not sit above 1.5 miles of sedimentary rock containing the perfectly-preserved remnants of millions of creatures apparently drowned in some unimaginable ancient Flood.
Eh, John?
timwebb1000
You obviously don't understand abiogenesis if you think it "arose from dirt" or that the Big Bang was a "fiery and chaotic explosion". The fact you believe in the children's story of the great flood says a lot about you.
Here are some problems with your flood fairy tale.
www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
You don't understand abiogenesis either. Mainly because it doesn't exist, except as a falsifiable hypothesis. Life arises from life, pure and simple. Most adults know this.
Wrt your implicit claim to know exactly what form the mythical BB took, then I suggest that you are due the next NP in astrophysics, because no-one else knows. The theories are legion, and constantly being abandoned and reformulated, as their illogicality and impossibility become ever more blindingly obvious, even to children.
I quickly looked at your link to the problems with the Flood of Noah.
One objection was that the Ark could not have been built to be seaworthy because of wood's inherent fragility.
It will surprise you to learn that the Ark was laminated, as in "made of a kind of plywood". Doubtless Wiki will be able to fill in the gaps in your knowledge about this method of construction.
Fascinatingly, its rivets were also made of an iron-aluminium-titanium alloy.
The link also refers to the apparent problem in that dinosaurs are thought to have died out 65mya. Dr Mary Schweitzer, and now many others, have news for you, and it isn't good.
Even Job spells out the description of these creatures; see his chapters 40 and 41, but don't let anyone see you opening your Bible; they might think badly of you, and begin to doubt your sanity.
Trying not to be nasty or smart in what I say; but I would honestly recommend that you have a good look at Dr Walt Brown's w/s, The Center for Creation Science.
Many of the logical difficulties you may have with the Biblical account are resolved there, and by a man who is very clearly, neither a fool nor a charlatan.
timwebb1000
Of course abiogenesis hasn't been proved to the the source of life, otherwise it would be taught in all the text books as fact. It is, however, a possible answer to where life came from. You seem to think because something is falsifiable that makes it automatically false? That is nonsense. Everything in science is falsifiable in principle, though it can't always be tested.
I find it interesting that you assume something is possible or impossible and yet your understand of each is based on your knowledge of science. Then again, a hundred years ago people thought other things were impossible which today are not, because of our advancements in science.
I looked around for information on this Dr Walt Brown and only find him on creation science websites. That's a good indication that he doesn't practice actual science. His whole hydroplate theory is not accepted by any credible scientist and was obviously just made up to explain where all the water came from for great flood to be plausible. There is no evidence this hypothesis of his is real or even that the flood happened.
You talk a lot about logic yet seem to use none yourself. This is why people believe in creation pseudoscience.
Walt Brown has his own w/s, "The Center for Creation Science".
It has hundreds of pages; closely argued and hard if not impossible to refute. His scientific credentials are obvious; and if you listen to him speak, it is also obvious that he is a very intelligent man, and whether mistaken or not, at least deserves to be heard out.
Re. your rather sophisticated observations about falsifiablity; the vast majority of the scientific understanding we rely upon has some obvious relation, at least superficially, to the evidence or the phenomena we see around us.
So whilst it is possible to say that gravity might not always be the guiding principle by which objects tend to fall towards other centres of mass, the theory at least has some *prima facie* credibility.
However, the theory of abiogenesis has none. Not one single scrap of evidence points towards it as being a possible explanation for life. As such, it is a complete negation of the principles by which science is done. It is a theory which doesn't have even a single *misinterpreted* fact to support it, let alone a solid fact. Its only apparent credibility came from the observation that maggots were seen to emerge from rotting flesh.
We then went on to realise that prior to this event, flies had landed unseen, and deposited their eggs thereon.
So the theory stands wholly outside the realm of science; it is simply a delusional belief system entertained only by delusionals, who will do anything to escape from the direct statement of the God they hate; ie that it was He Who breathed life into man, and thus by inference, into the entire Creation.
Further to your remark that I assume certain things to be possible, and others impossible, based upon limited understanding.
My beliefs are firmly based not on my own admittedly limited understanding, but foursquare upon what God has said. Thus if God says that He led the C of I across the Red Sea, then I believe that without reservation, and in fact YT has video evidence for this event; thus my faith in His word is confirmed.
However, if NASA says that it has sent men to the moon, and rovers into space, then I first ask God what He says about this, and I find the clear message of scripture which refutes the claims of man.
"And *no man hath ascended into heaven* but He that came down from heaven, even the Son of Man which is in heaven".
This scriptural message fully accords with the firmly-held and closely-argued opinion of many ordinary and averagely-intelligent men and women who reject what appear to be the lies perpetrated by NASA.
You do not believe that there is any evidence that the Flood happened.
If this is the case, then you must explain why a great ship with rivets made from an iron-titanium-aluminium alloy, of the precise dimensions given for the Ark, has been found upon the Mountains of Ararat.
You must further explain why the various layers delineated beneath earth's surface, clearly sedimentary in nature, have never been observed to be eroded by water etc, relative to each other.
Science in its simplest guise would tell the enquiring soul that this is clear evidence not necessarily about Who caused these layers to be placed one upon another, but simply that they must all have been laid down within a very few years at most; or as the Bible categorically asserts, during a period of one year.
Completely unmatched eloquence. What an honor it was to have lived in the same era as him.
I am sure that a lot of people to pretend to disagree with Hitchens know that he is right.
Of course. They just don't know how to admit that they are wrong. Laughable really.
+Gregory Krug The truth that we vainly exist and then just shut off when we die is most logical..I'd love to believe in fairytales and everlasting bliss
+Rob A Yup, it's our ego that keeps us thinking that we're something special and there certainly has to be more to us than this world lol. We live and we die - thee end.
right, like right now I'm drinking a nice dry red wine in the early afternoon...if yuppies got this, they would realize that they are no better off that another other asshole 'cause they'll die toooooo
I don't care much for an argument like that, it reminds me of "you know there is a god, but you deny him because you want to sin". Let's not answer stupidity with stupidity.
Mr Hitchens being his usual articulate, erudite, common-sense self. Thank goodness we have the internet so we can keep hearing his words of wisdom. Brave as well - the people in the audience looked like a very religious lot.
Julie Paterson I watch this clip at least once every night. Brilliant.
+Just Curious So what! Hitchens didn't like ANY religion, not just christianity. Nothing subjective about that. Liking something is subjective, not agreeing with something because there is no good reason to agree is not being subjective, it's being a critical thinker.
You could see on the faces of the young people the holy shit this man is 100% correct what the fuck am I going to do now written on all over them.
+Just Curious You continue to repeat the "he was just being emotional, subjective" even after it is clearly shown to be wrong. Did you watch, listen to and carefully consider everything he said in this video? It's not long.
+Julie Paterson Vast intellectual wealth he had; wise he was not
How any Christian could possibly still have faith in their religion after hearing words like these is mind-boggling. Then again, it's mind-boggling that they became believers in the first place.
What are you talking about? He didn't prove anything in this video
At the very least he showed that god is either lazy, incompetent or an amazing troll.
By missing the point entirely of course. Selective retention as well. Why else do you think we keep hearing the same nonsense arguments over and over again even though they have all been demolished time and time again.
+Steve It isn't mind boggling at all that people become believers. Most people are indoctrinated as kids, so they are believers right off the bat. Turning away from that isn't easy.
this is not mind boggling, these are basics of knowledge
the look on some of the students faces is what keeps bringing me to watch this over and over. its as plain as day some of them have never heard their religion described in this way. priceless
Superior analyses from Christopher Hitchens!
You must love someone whom you fear or you will suffer forever. Sounds like domestic abuse to me.
It's called 'sadomasochism'
***** It's called Christianity
***** Very true, all the Abrahamic religions suffer from the same fundamental flaws and worship the same petty, vengeful, spiteful deity.
Jacob Darling
Why do frontline atheists all sound like Dawking?
Can't they find their own words to blaspheme God with?
timwebb1000 Firstly, it's Dawkins, not Dawking and second, maybe the fact that we all have the same complains about religion should tell you something.
if anyone can form an adequate rebuttal to this I will bow down and call you god
ha ha
+Maxim Lekov. Greetings Maxim, hope you are well. Christianity is 2000 years old not 200, 20 or 2, in that time there has been one CONTINUAL and multifaceted attempt to wipe it out completely and utterly; beginning with the slaughter of the innocents, the betrayal and thence the merciless public execution [attempted] of its founder via a methodology regarded so horrendous by the Romans, that by their law no Roman citizen could be crucified. Swiftly followed by the almost systematic murder of its adherents. Attempts at wiping it out range then from betrayal, organised heresies and laws and actions of whole empires and states, such as the Roman Empire, right though history to the likes of the USSR, all this aided and abetted by cruel and sweeping ideologies such as Communism. They have all failed. Included in the endless list are of course are countless individuals, both deranged and otherwise, of which our Hitch, a substance abusing, alcoholic, constitutes just another one. A man for whom his attempts at destroying the faith have led to fame, idolisation and a very lucrative career; indeed perhaps he should get to his knees and thank God for Christianity [essentially], otherwise he would have been - just like Mr Dawkins - another unknown would-be or wanna-be intellectual of whom very few people would ever have heard. Their attacks have [had] made them wealthy. Christianity has always and will always continue to make a good target for so many, for so much, and for those many often for the wrong reasons. Meanwhile of course . . . . .
Allan Lindsay What about all the substance abusing, alcoholic Christians, does that mean they are deranged as well? Your reply is simply your opinion, not a rebuttal to the actual position layed out by Hitchens in the video. Please address the specific points he makes in the video. Oh and by the way, for most of his career before he became an "atheist celebrity" he was already famous for writing award winning books and being one of the top writers in the world.
+Maxim Lekov Hitchins Anyone that has a poor view of redemption, as Hutchins reveals in the video above, cannot understand the beautiful sentiment behind it. Redemption is not scapegoating or not taking responsibility. Redemption is taking full responsibility for what you've done with a pledge to be a better man in return for forgiveness. How could anyone argue against the idea of redemption?
john197039 because it implies that we are born into sin and must submit to an all knowing, all powerful god that must be loved and feared. It most definitely is a way of scapegoating due to the fact that as long as you "repent" and ask forgiveness, then you actually don't have to take any responsibility to negative actions towards your fellow man. Any idealogy that states that humans are born into sin is a crock of shit in my opinion.
As mentioned by Hitchens, scapegoating our social responsibility played a big part in me leaving Christianity. The idea that God and his later human sacrifice, rather than the victim of our bad behaviour, should forgive us is the belief of a psychopath.
It's an interesting idea because it's not the Jewish belief. It's not what jews believe about forgiveness and therefore it's likely not what Jesus would've believed.
First time I hear him talk, I instantly admire him
Check out the 'Intelligence Squared Debate - Is the Catholic Church a force for good"... He ruins the opposition :)
"It can't be believed by a thinking person"
Aren't you debating this right now?
+Bic Boi So you were referring to the video and not my comment in particular?
@@LudwigMagnusson you talking to yourself?
Its never perceived by a thinking person ...or an emotional person
That almost brought me to tears. Hitchens wan an inspiration and one who will be missed for a long time.
This was the best summary. Not even Nietzsche himself could have done it better.
I find it amazing, and rather weird, that when people like Hitchens speak perfect common sense and logic the religious don't get it.
Peter Metcalfe
Hitchens, rather, is an insufferable and pompous prig, spewing forth all the lies and illogic and genuine venom against the Most High granted only to the more important servants of satan.
Perhaps you can explain to us something that Hitchens was unable to.
Namely, that if I were to pay your debt to somebody, because you couldn't, surely that would then give me the right to forgive you before your creditor?
What further case against you could your creditor possibly have?
Logical? Legally admissible? Any flaw in the logic here?
But Chris couldn't understand this "perfect common sense and logic".
So perhaps the religious, or the Christian at any rate, are several steps ahead of you, and he, with their logic.
timwebb1000 Wow! The delusion is strong in you. LOL.
timwebb1000 How does it feel to be so wrong and at the same time so proud of it? Wow! And you call Hitchens pompous? Lol.
Sacrificium intellectus..
timwebb1000 BWAHAHAHAHA!
I really miss Hitch.
wow...after all this time, even re-hearing an argument he put forth I haven't heard in a while still retains it's power when he says it. Like it's all fresh. Miss ya Hitch!
I like his point at the beginning about how Christianity was only introduced 2000 years ago, meanwhile human beings had been suffering for centuries before while (the Christian) God sat by and did nothing. What kind of a cruel sadistic being is that? Certainly not one worthy of worship. All religions are so obviously manmade it's hilarious to think that people in the 21st actually believe that they somehow lucked into the "one truth faith".
It just shows how little atheists understand scripture. Read the bible and look at all the times God punished sinners. Your backing up your idiotic atheist claims with a false doctrine. I guess that's to be expected because atheist are so narrow minded and brainwashed by the new world order.
XxNiteMare76xX brainwashed. Ironic choice of words for a religious person
+bonzihunter It's sad that your trying to say you know our God better than a bible believing Christian. Also please tell me what science has proved wrong about the Bible. The Bible is perfect and has always stood the test of time while science always changes. Seriously look up the new world order and find that you are the one who has been brainwashed. Try and actually come up with a compelling argument not the "heaven sounds boring and God sounds mean". Obviously you don't understand it cause you don't read scripture and your eyes have been shielded by God.
XxNiteMare76xX lol oh I don't know. Maybe it was wrong about a couple of minor things like evolution, dinosaurs, the world being created in 6 days a couple thousand years ago... Just minor stuff like that. You're a fucking idiot and I'm done talking to your ignorant Bible thumping ass. Post muted.
+bonzihunter But evolution is a theory that hasn't been proven and is always changing. Also the dinosaurs are not mentioned once in the Bible so how could it be wrong at something it doesn't mention. Lastly why can the Earth not have been created in 6 literal days? He is God and nothing is impossible but your theory about nothing created nothing for no reason is the real joke. Your just another athiest preaching your false doctrines that can easily be proven wrong by a bible believing Christian. Your really done talking to me because you can't make a compelling argument and everything you said were false doctrines I proved wrong. You believe in your joke of a belief system of false doctrines you praise but true Bible believing Christians always prove wrong. You got beat in this debate and you always will when you try to debate against real christians. You are just another ignorant athiest who doesn't understand scripture.
I love the idea of "original sin". Possibly paying to eternal damnation, for something we are not responsible for? Paying to be born, and being punished for not leading a "perfect" life? INSANE!
Well said
Holy shit - maybe the best case against Christianity ever summed up in three minutes.
bizmark D
If Hitchens were actually logically compelling, then maybe. But he misrepresents the facts very badly; any half-competent theologian would blow his case away in milliseconds. Unfortunately, the modern world has turned its back on the Light which has sustained our world for generations, and so we are now a nation of the blind leading the blind.
timwebb1000 um....the Light? Another religious misinterpretation of reality. As Hitchens rightly says in this vid, 'Religion cannot be believed by a thinking person.' So there's your choice. I choose thinking. And if there is some divinity, it's on Hitchens side as well.
timwebb1000 oh fuck off. Half competent theologian.. you couldn't even beat his ass yourself
Bring the man back, and we'll see.
timwebb1000 bring who back
Hitch did more for humanity in his short life than all theologians have for the last 4000 years.
Christopher Hitchens is the only primate worth listening to.
And that includes the Primate of All England.
John Doe
Not to mention Neil deGrasse Tyson, Stephen Hawking, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg and Warren Buffett. Of course they're atheists too. :-)
And he's dead. ;(
***** He is very much alive in his works!
Leonardo NR I know mate. Just sayin.
"And since God doesnt come to us, he has human representatives tell us the truth."
-- Christopher Hitchens
I could listen to Chris Hitchens all my life & not be bored - he was such a clever & well spoken man - he spoke in a way that makes perfect sense even to the layman on the street. He is sadly missed 🤔😢👍
00:36 I’m loving death’s scythe behind Hitch. Death as an anthropomorphic personification is more believable than a god who cares about humans.
He is, and was, a master of the English language. Thankyou Mr Hitchens for being here.
Hitchens has been the most eloquent man that has ever walked the planet, and one of the smartest too, his legacy ensures his immortality. I miss this gorgeous bastard. 💐
No one ever can improve on Christopher Hitchens. Beyond brilliant, unique orator & brave! Oh how he is missed. A rare intellect.
And yet given the overwhelming logic of his argument people still believe, placing hope over the overwhelming evidence against such a god.
If this is "overwhelming logic" then i get why.
Here is food for thought. My buddy is a Christian. He got into a church dispute with other Christians and took a ball bat to the windshields of some of their cars. In the end he repented and Jesus forgave him. The owners of the cars didn't forgive him. In fact, they had no idea it was him who did the damage. Jesus forgave my buddy and yet did nothing at all for the car owners with broken windshields.
Yep, that's the Christian way! Jesus was my buddies insurance but the car owners had to rely on their own insurance if they had any. What if they had none? Wouldn't you expect to go out and find that Jesus had "healed" the windshields?
*****
Hahahaha! Okay windshields are people.
*****
Good one. Hahaha.
***** The owners of the windshields are people. That was the point of the analogy. Get your bible out of your arse and pay attention.
***** Can Jesus heal amputees?
*****
How do you know that?
If you want to get a real feeling for his genius his debates are the best place to go! No preparations for some of what is being discussed.
Christopher Hitchens Was a Highly intelligent and intellectual individual RIP Hitch! You're Dearly Missed! 😢
I am so sad that he is not around anymore. He was a genius and a fearless truth teller. We need him now more than ever.
We can't tell truths cause humans aren't smart enough to know what is true and not advanced enough to even know what questions to ask
Blisteringly honest and succinct synopsis of the sheer illogicality of religious belief. And it's manufactured component "faith" - the purposeful suspension of critical thought.
A lot of people used to believe the earth was flat. Just because some people very strongly believe something does not make it true
There is not a shred of morality in the collective tomes of the Abrahamic Faith. The tramp of the herd, and the braying pastors and mullahs need to be silenced by reason and ridicule.
0:50 As Billy Graham said " He was born in that part of the world, that touches Europe and Aisa and Africa... It's not a white-man's religion or a black-man's religion, it's a world religion, He belongs to the world!"
It's a long way from America or Australia.
@@Artman1 Where did American people come from, Asia and Europe, as well as Africa.
@@Justin_Time1200American and Australian people had had no contact with the middle east at that time. Not really the centre of the world.
@@Artman1 The Europeans traveled, did they not, around the world to South America, and Eastern North America.
My hero. I was a half-hearted Christian until I was 16, then I discovered weed and Hitchens. He blew open the doors of my mind and I will be forever grateful to him. If all goes well and religion goes the way of the dodo he will be viewed by future generations as one of the greatest liberators that ever lived.
If you were a full-hearted, born-again Christian and not backslidden and lukewarm you'd be thinking an entirely different thing from this man.
@@fadikhoory5350 you are going to hell.
@@fadikhoory5350 Why are you a Christian? Do you have any irrefutable evidence for your beliefs or it's simply
because you were indoctrinated. Why is it that you chose Christianity over other religions, and the Bible over other holy books.
@@shadrachemmanuel1720 Why Christianity? Because Buddha is dead, Mohammed is dead, but Jesus conquered death. Why would the Disciples waste their time and end up dying in vain?(ruclips.net/video/23UNLLbOS3w/видео.html) This corrupt world that we live in with its agendas and so-called progression has made me feel depressed in contrast to what the Bible says where the things of this world are weak, and it was prophesied as being so.
@@fadikhoory5350 You claim , Jesus is dead yet the only reason to believe that is found in the Bible. Outside the Bible, there's not much reason to believe that claim. The fact there are four gospels all written decades after the fact and even contradicting each other, written by unknown authors . all who were writing on a second hand account of the supposed events puts the validity of those books in question. Ever wondered why the gospels are four instead of one? If they all contained the same message then there would be one gospel. Why didn't Jesus write a gospel or better yet why didn't his disciples write down the events as they were happening and avoid second hand accounts which are questionable. The gospels seem to be historical fiction, with a few facts mixed up with legends and myths.
A genuine thanks for your time and your demeanor (far less toxic than the others'). I do wish you well.
My position:
This is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. Everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.
Jesus: “Unless you people see signs and wonders, you will by no means believe.”
Instead, believe on the Lord and you will be saved!
If I was god , the last thing I would want, is for people to worship me all the time.
Wow I genuinely miss this man.
Not only is there no reason to believe Christian mythology true, we're got a planet full of empirical evidence that proves it false.
I have yet to see any evidence that disproves the existence of God... a fact that is usually explained by more intelligent atheists as the inability to prove a negative. If you have such evidence I'd be interested in seeing it.
"I have yet to see any evidence that disproves the existence of God."
Real God(s) might actually exist. The Abrahamic God (Jew/Christian/Muslim) mythology makes testable claims that are verfiably false. And that's what I said.
eg.
"Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am." ~ Jesus. John 14:12-14.
That's a testable claim. Do you believe in Jesus? Go raise a dead person. According to Jesus, you can do that and even greater things.
Or is Jesus a fraud and a liar?
TheHigherVoltage Raising the dead was not "the work of Christ". The work of Christ was spreading the word of Gods love and sacrifice so that all of mankind may be free from the bonds of sin. He is basically saying if you truly believe in me you'll continue my work. You can pick and choose biblical verses to "prove" your point but it is painfully obvious that you either don't understand the verses you're quoting or are intentionally twisting them to fit your purpose (something the very religious people you show contempt for have been doing for thousands of years).
Adam Hunsicker I understand bible mythology just fine...and you're being dishonest about this verse.
"Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am." ~ Jesus. John 14:12-14.
Do even greater works/things. Explain the meaning of this 'greater things' if 'works' is just prostelytizing. Explain the contradiction you've just created by redefining 'works' and 'things' to now mean proselytizing.
Jesus is consistent in his claim that believers will be granted supernatural powers.
"And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover." ~ Mark 156:15-18.
And these signs shall follow them that believe : speak with new tongues....laying on hands...
How many new languages could you suddenly speak when you became a bapitzed believer? With so many baptized believers around, why do we even have hospitals? Why aren't baptized believers curing children of cancers?
"Again, truly I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything they ask for, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven." ~ Jesus. Matt 18:19.
Well, here we are. Two people on earth. According to Jesus, if we two people on earth agree on anything...say, that every child with cancer should be miraculously cured by Christmas, it will be done by Yahweh for us.
Jesus verifiably lies. That's just the verifiable truth.
You said : "spreading the word of Gods love and sacrifice"
'Love' does not include "I may light on fire and tortured for eternity". 'Sacrifice' means actually giving something up. Not "I will suffer for a bit, then I'll be King of the Universe"
Bible mythology is sadistic nonsense, sold as love.
Adam Hunsicker JC said: I am here tot fulfill the Law. This law meant amongst others stoning of homosexuals. Who on earth can call this love?
So god created us "sick" and demanded of us to behave "sane"? Some loving god?! Listen to CH's arguments with an open mind...
Peace
What Christopher Hitchens states here is absolutely true of all mainstream religions such as Christianity, Hinduism and Islam.
Excellent video. A must see video for everyone to see.
Hitchens has sparked more great minds than any super natural prophet ever could.
Im Christian and this guy makes a full sense to me. But I don't know how to start thinking in that way. I will never say ther is no God but I also can't say there is any anymore...
+DaGazz369 you don't have to be a Christian to believe that there is some sort of god. throw away the Christian nonsense and keep the god xD although there is no evidence to believe there is one, Christian doctrines are far worse and more primitive than the belief that there is some kind of being that created the universe
+DaGazz369 If you still feel the need to be a Christian, I'm sure there's some type of Christianity you could still be into. Some Christians only believe that Jesus is God and that he was killed and rose from the dead. That's it. They don't believe (or they're "agnostic" concerning) any other supernatural events in The Bible, nor do they believe God is omniscient, omnipresent, or omni-benevolent.
+Daniel Garcia dud if i would not be questing it u mean that i would be hear :D Thx btw for a coment....
+expendable Its good advice you gave.... Its nice to see that someon can give u choice of opinion but not forcing one on you.. Thx much Best regards..
+Herreken Thx for your coment bro... but if main idea of religion is corrupted or ther is none, than i dont se a reason why to be a christian or Muslim or budhist i think so long we all stay honest and good we dont nead any kind of religion...but yeah u know the problem is that im from one realy strong christian family... and its hard to tell them something like that just so....
So few believers' responses to Christopher's points seem to actually understand the force behind them and why they are so convincing to us who used to (or never did) believe. It's like they are in a different world and they simply don't understand the criticisms in any meaningful way. The unwarranted confidence in the one who thinks that, "well, the bible is perfect and has never been proven wrong" is the mic-dropping retort to silence all critics is certainly funny, but also sad. It is hard to have an actual conversation about these things with them when they think retreating into the unassailable fortress of faith is a commendable thing to do. Instead, it is the intellectual equivalent of plugging one's ears and loudly declaring, "It's not true!" over and over again. It's hard to respect that.
If humans survive, this will be know as the era of religions. It will be looked upon by advanced societies as a crude and unrefined period just like we look back on Feudal Europe as a crude and unrefined period.
I love Hitchens man, he is a role model to all freethinkers
Personally, I find it all hard to believe . But for some, once you've been raised Christian and embrace it into your being, it's hard to reject it and let it go. I wish a loving God would intervene with many things. It's about hope. A hope that this life has some kind of meaning besides just saying, "your life had meaning because you loved people or helped an old lady across the street." Actually, if there's nothing beyond death but a grave , all we can do is whip ourselves up into believing in some kind of meaning. We want purpose, but maybe there isn't any. Such emptiness. Living for a shallow grave.
Mario Ass But why do you believe the Bible? Because you were raised that it's true and others confirm it for you. Just reading words from a book? I don't know.
Mario Ass You can't understand how the earth came to be so automatically you believe a book written by non scientific men that just say, "God" did it. Ok, got it.
Mario Ass It would seem an intelligence is involved. I'm not a supporter of the Bi Bang. But again, why automatically the Bible as the answer? It says God did it and that's it. Don't you think God could communicate to people better than the Genesis story ? We talk amongst ourselves in amuck more reasonable way.
Mario Ass I can tell you are very young by your style of writing. There's much you haven't learned. "Prophecy" is very vague and can be pulled apart . If I would have read in the Bible that Hitler would come and kill millions of people , and specifically used his name, THEN, I could say "wow, that's incredible, it must be true." Be we don't get that. We get predictions of earthquakes and wars which is not a prophecy. The only boy prophecy that could seem hood would be the OT writers saying a messiah would come and Jesus fitting the description. BUT, you could say the NT writters copied the OT to make it fit, so it's debatable.
Mario Ass Don't take offense. I just commented that I know you are young.....compared to me . Anyway, good comeback. You're right, it's not an essay.
This should be played in every classroom in the Western Society, where Christianity, although dying out......is stupidly, still around.
I guess he never read the bible.poor guy
Well Christopher you're with God now I hope, and he's merciful. RIP
No he's not. He died. People don't continue living after they've....you know...DIED. Don't you think it's a bit silly to believe that when you die....you keep...living? That's like saying, "When you go bald, you have lots of hair."
2000 years ago you where nothing - you did not exist at all. And in 2000 years you will again be nothing. How is this such a hard concept to grasp?
He would almost surely be in hell, let's be honest.
Really silly comment you made there. How do you know.. prove it. Merciful? Tell that to the 200 kidnapped girls... all children who die a horrible death, starving, rape.... etc... What's merciful? Your imaginary belief that all that is okay because you are going to end up singing in heaven for ever and ever to a king on a throne? INSANE.
Marco Arecibo
If there is a god, yes he would... If even HE wouldn't be in hell, i think no one has to worry anymore, we'll all go to heaven :-D
I rather like that, "We are the higher primates"
doodelay I find the most humbling truth is that we are not the finished project. One day, we'll be the common ancestor of other species.
estvan56 Hopefully!
+estvan56 we will probably be robots by then. evolution tajes waay to long and we humans arent really patient lol
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It amazing that people could watch this and still believe he's right they don't think they have the illusion of thinking
Nobody on this planet can "choose" what they believe.. One most be convinced first and we all know it's impossible to pick what convinces you or force yourself to be convinced.. Therefore belief in God? Not a choice.. The ones who say it is a choice are usually christians who happen to convinced already and as a result, they automatically believe and then they think they chose it.. Ridiculous how dumb some folks are
He is mainly criticising christian juridicalism, which in the eyes of the historical church is wrong. Hitchens is against hipocritical and moralistic christianity that strives to create fear and punishment amongst people. He is also criticising the hopelessness evangelicalism teaches that how much you ever try, you are still as horrible sinner as before. I am also critical against this, and I'm a christian. The historical church and teaching from the first centuries are also against this.
Sure, but he's also just showing how even if there was evidence of this god (and there isn't) he would be either hopelessly incompetent or an evil dictator. Better follow Our Glorious Leader and call him a god of love or he'll throw you into the fire to burn for eternity! (Well, he won't do it personally, but within his regime where he's said to be all-powerful you will definitely end up there!)
Maj Magister The view of God being that way is the misconseption of some protestant and catholic groups. Historically, this was not the view of who God is. The view of God that Hitchens is against I am also against! God does not send people to hell, we as people choose to follow Him or not to follow Him. Sometimes this is simplified so much that God becomes a judgemental and tyrranical god.
Kralperri Er, but I covered all that.
_"god does not send people to hell"_
*And Kim Jong Un doesn't throw people into prison!* Not _personally_. Instead, the regime he has total control over does the prison-sentencing.
Do you believe Kim Jong Un is a nice guy?
_"we as people choose to follow him or not"_
*North Koreans choose to follow their leader or not.* They have a choice. If they make the wrong choice, they're thrown in prison or killed.
Do you believe North Korea would be a nice place to live?
Thankfully god has one thing going for him: no evidence exists proving his existence, so he's fictional. When given a choice of whether to be threatened by a real dictator or a fictional one, logically we would choose the fictional one (and then promptly ignore the threats, which are also fictional).
Maj Magister I understand your point. If seeing God as a dictator your conclusion is completely accurate. The traditional Christian understanding of God, however, says that without God our soul has no life (which of course requires belief in that we have a soul) the same way as our body has no life without water or food. He is life and not a dictator. Sadly many protestants in the US put extremely much emphasis on the latter.
Regarding His existence there is no proof and neither is there proof of that He does not exist. That's why it requiers faith alone to believe in Him (and of course evaluating arguments for and against His existence).
Kralperri Do you have answers to these questions? If Christians believe god is all-powerful then he could have set up any sort of system he wanted. That means he _willfully chose_ one that resembles an authoritarian regime where dissenting ideas are punished with eternal torture.
I quote Ronald Reagon that said : "Within the covers of the bible are all the answers to all the problems man faces today." As an acting president, this was in direct opposition of our secular constitution to bring religion into the politics of our government. The influences of religion on our laws and gov. policies have eroded our civil liberties ever since Nancy Reagon started the war on drugs as a cover.
Christopher Hitchens, Bob Ross and Abraham Lincoln are my top 3 favorite humans to have lived.
Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth, and The Life
He knows a lot more about the world than Jesus.
Classic Hitchslap Deathblow
What nobler thing can be said of a person then, "he laid waste to charlatans and frauds"? Truly a great man.
This clips title is pointless as billions of people find it perfectly possible to believe in Jesus Christ.
Keep practicing the words. Eventually you might reach pre-school level.
LMA UK Very good. You still can't manage a grammatical sentence, but keep trying and don't worry that you can only say infantile things.
LMA UK Your next baby steps are to locate the caps lock key, and figure out commas.
After that, we can work on your tiny vocabulary.
Stefan you can't argue with a meathead like that. Have you seen his videos? All he can do is beat the shit out of people. The intellect of a bullfrog.
its a shame when time and energy is wasted in spewing childish nonsensical tautology and name calling between people having difference of opinion.
Nailed it!
Paul Gross
Actually he didn't those are all the basic questions atheists ask which can be easily answered if you people would actually pick the book up and read it for yourselves but no you want to just quickly judge it without first doing an investigation. Which is what fact comes out of and if you can't investigate for yourself then sir you are unqualified to even be giving a professional opinion. I said professional opinion you can still give an opinion it just wouldn't be reliable without deep investigation. Key word deep which means read chosen books all the way through.
Andrew Dennis *oh yes he nailed it alright!*
You claim he can be _"easily answered",_ to which I must respond:
Any _fool_ can supply easy answers.
I don't want _easy_ answers, I want answers that can survive the twin blowtorches of _reason_ and _logic._
So I call you on your _"easy answers"_ then I will subject your answers to _reason_ and _logic,_ and we will see what survives in the cold light of day.
I will wait patiently for your _easy answers_ if you actually dare to present them...
Do you fear the twin blowtorches of _reason_ and _logic?_
Paul Gross
Ok well first off time is only temporary for now so how do you punish someone in an eternal state? You punish them and it's never ending bc it never stops bc it's eternal. You would think a scientist would understand that but they don't bc they choose darkness over light when light is truth. And Jesus paying our debt is just like our economic system if I wanted to pay a persons debt that person would have to agree to it first. It's literally that simple. But scientists want to dismiss religion bc they heard its thousands years old and they heard from there friends it's unreliable so when they look at certain verses they condemn the religion. It's like a redefined way of judging a book by its cover it's honestly pathetic and that is the truth. I love science btw so I know all about geometric dating, historic, observational science and so on. But just like 200 years ago we still don't have the definitive proof of how our universe was created. Am I honestly going to believe that billions and billions of stars expanding billions and billions of light years just one day decided to exist? Yeah actually but on one condition. That the hand of an intelligent higher being thought it out and commanded it to happen. And atheists often forget that My God created the very laws that they study so disproving God by explaining laws of physics and relativity and so on doesn't work. Hell was prepared for Satan and the Angels that followed him and our race fell bc Satan wanted to get back at God by tempting our race into disobeying God and because we ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil our race was cursed but God so loved the world that he gave his only son Jesus who is God manifested in flesh that whosoever believes in him shall have eternal life. The Bible speaks a lot of truth it's a 60 chapter book written by 40 different authors who come from 40 different walks of life all in unity with each other with zero contradiction. And theologians can tell you that. God is real Hell is real repent from sin and turn to God and trust me you will not regret it.
And not to mention the fulfilled prophecy accurately described like Israel coming back as a nation and signing a peace treaty with Egypt also all the 57% decline of wild animals. I mean I can go on. And parts of the Bible even talk about how the universe works in the book of job for example when God is making a point to him he mentions the earth having no visible force keeping it suspended and how the belt of Orion is loose I mean these are gravitational properties it's mentioning and how can anyone possibly know these things especially about the earth without seeing it.
And honestly I've yet to look this up but if evolution has so much evidence then can someone tell me which organs we evolved first? I mean amoebas were doing just fine without lungs why did we all of a sudden need them?
I also want to mention why I forget what they call themselves geologists I think? Anyway they talk about how a global flood is impossible and yet we find fish fossils on mountains and scientists have said they have no idea why.
And to be honest any atheist who's "come out of Christianity" was never really Christian anyway. When you are truly Christian you change so immediately and so drastically it changes your very mind of everything you do. Not just your beliefs but everything. When people become Christians they are freed from addictions and haunting emotions. And all these things are easily described in the Bible which has survived so many attempts to destroy its existence. Great men whom I believe to have been inspired by God have risked there very lives translating and preserving the sacred texts.
Not only that but it is obvious there are supernatural occurences like ghosts I mean you can disbelieve it all you want but thee are so many accounts of near death experiences that have been studied and researched scientists claim it to be a survival thing our brain uses to comfortably die. And that's the thing yeah sure science can explain it but that doesn't dismiss it from being God. He created the very laws of nature.
I mean the evidence is amazing I can personally testify as I read the Bible there is an incredible amount of unity for a book WRITTEN BY 40 DIFFERENT MEN FROM 40 DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE. I mean come on if it's not God it's something bc like I mentioned above they could explain gravitational properties if our universe. Seriously the only truly reasonable explanation for all this is God. Scientists methods of "proving" things like the earths age using seemingly unreliable methods such as geo metric dating even though it's deemed the opposite is just absurd. I mean if it is so reliable why the 50 million year range?
I mean come on this book is the most ignored and yet the most significant Jesus death was the very thing that seperated time. I forget what it was a.c b.c I mean you get what I'm saying. This book is just the most incredible thing to have ever existed and honestly why oppose it? I can understand when believers are arguing with atheists for no reason but seriously? Is there any harm in preaching about this amazing love? When I came to Christ oh man I had so much weight on my shoulders and heavy anxiety but he lifted it all off in a matter of seconds and I just felt over joyed. Call it what you will but with everything else I've mentioned I'm convinced.
Andrew Dennis ah ha! The infamous _Gish Gallop_ strikes again!
You have just presented a smorgasbord of obvious absurdities, and I am spoiled for choice where I can begin to destroy your claims.
But where will I start, I wonder?
Tell you what: it's only sporting to let you decide where I will apply the blowtorches of reason and logic first... so which of your absurd claims do you want me to destroy first? Any particular favorite from your smorgasbord?
If you don't care I can choose one for you...
Andrew Dennis of you can't decide yourself, are you happy to start with me *debunking your claim* that _the return of Israel proves your bible is true?_
Fortunately Hitchens will be forgotten. Jesus Christ will not.
You mean forgotten like 99% of all other religions?
Knows our thoughts. And can convict us of thought crime and condemn us to eternal punishment for actions that we are condemned in advance to be taking...mr hitch
I know I'll get flamed for this one, but:
Gross misunderstanding of Christianity to say the least
Also Hitchens had heard numerous explanations of of the faith in context, yet he still went about spouting his grossly misunderstood view
Big Dave
"somewhere in this world,right now Christians are torturing,murdering,raping and burning the homes of people who believe in a different invisible,unquantifiable and,some would say,non-existent deity."
Here's a challenge: find me Christians who are doing what you mentioned and are able to back it up with the teachings of Christ.
Anyone who has tortured, murdered, raped in the name of Christianity has explicitly disobeyed Christ, so why would you call them Christian?
If you wanna know what Christians are actually doing right now, look at this:
christiangoodinsociety.blogspot.fr/
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Wait, the Dark Ages are right now? I must be missing something
frankos rooni I'm not sure why you're putting words in my mouth.
I never said I have divorced myself from the OT. Find me where it says to burn witches or kill homosexuals. I'm really interested. Literally the only thing I find related to Christianity and Nigeria is Christians getting KILLED. Not doing the killing.
Regarding the OT, the Bible is a sophisticated book. It's not even a book actually. It's a library. It's 66 different books written at different times by different people for different purposes. People think they can just read the 2014 English translation of a book written 3000 years ago and think they have the right interpretation.
Look at the context and original text of the OT and tell me again how immoral it is.
Big Dave
Again, the vast majority of the search results I get are of Christians getting killed, not killing. Besides, the media doesn't report on all of the great things Christians are doing around the world. Nobody cares about that. The media is all about violence and killing. That's what people are interested in.
Besides, this is a moot point because Christ wouldn't approve of any killing anyway.
I'm sure atheists wouldn't appreciate me saying that atheism is evil because of Mao or Pol Pot or Stalin, so why criticize Christianity because of Christians who aren't even following the teachings of Christ?
Because nobody has ever killed in the name of atheism. Mao,Pol Pot etc learned their particular style of despotism from Stalin who admitted the "cult of personality" was impressed upon him when he was a trainee priest. Maybe the percentage of christians killing is smaller,so it should be if they are "practicing" christians but numbers are irrelevant. It is the fact that all religions cause strife and turmoil that I find so distasteful.I'm an ex christian from a hardline protestant background and we were taught to beware of catholics,just because they worshipped incorrectly,so please don't try the"correct" christian approach. Do you think not for tomorrow,do you give everything away and own nothing? Surely that would be real christianity?
girl at 2:45 is hot
Total destruction
Hitchens is right. There is absolutely no reason to believe any of it is true.
Christopher Hitchens is impossible to believe
If you added up every piece of toilet paper you've ever used and then added to that every piece Hitchens ever used, he read and wrote far more pages of books than the number you've calculated. He has likely forgotten more than you've ever learned in the first place.
Alison spends most of her (?) time checking out cute cats, strippers and guitar gods. Yet she thinks she has the mental acumen to take on one of the world's greatest intellects with a vapid comment like this!
Excuse me, he was a socialist, then he turned around and supported George W Bush and the Iraq war? I know what I'm talking about, don't insult my intelligence. Oh, and I also play the guitar and sing quite well, but I guess you forgot to check those out.
Alison Kenady I apologize, Alison but as I said, your comment was vapid. Attacks on the man are irrelevant, just as my attack on you is irrelevant. I would prefer that you consider Hitch's arguments and respond to those.
I didn't realize this video had anything to do with the war in Iraq.
Sorry, let me emphasize on being a sinner as I have called myself. I sin no more but understand that it is still at this point a possibility, but not so much as a certainty as it once was. He began a work in my soul and mind over 1/4 of a century ago, and He has promised to bring it to completion. Thankyou again for your comment.
Here Christopher Hitchens is expalining God as if he was a human, God is not a human. Jesus was not a human sacrifice in the sense that you are thinking of, and that he is trying to make you think in. Jesus chose to follow through with his decision Matthew 26:39
This is like taking poetry as literal fact.
God knows what he deserves! He deserves obedience, and for his children to work spreading scripture, and helping others. He deserves our thankfulness, and prayers. He deserves to be called GOD. He deserves all of our Love first! He's entitled to it because he is the creator. Everything we have is because of his gifting it to us. The life, the food, the water, the shelter, a chance for an eternity in paradise. All he expects is respect, and Love! If people can't give that than they are doomed!
I love The Hitch but here's my dilemma: when I was a kid a green man wearing a white robe appeared to me out of nowhere. He was completely solid and standing only a couple of feet away from me. He stood there for a while staring at me. I looked him up and down and was making direct eye contact with him when he disappeared right in front of me all without a sound. He had short white hair and bare feet. He wasn't a hallucination at all. We will find out one day they've been here this whole time!
God still loves this man and always will. Hopefully this guy can be reached someday.
He's dead. And if you're a Christian you know that the teaching is that's it's too late for redemption after you're dead.
AJ Steele Oh ok. I didn't know he passed on. I never herd of the guy before till today.
Shouldn't the response from a believer be more like _"Oh ok, in that case my god of love wants him to be eternally tortured."_ ? No evidence exists for such a god, thankfully, but what a terrible place the universe would be if there was an evil dictator god who insisted "follow my regime or be tortured for eternity". That's like North Korea dialed up to 11.
Maj Magister The only evidence one can use for God are the things made. The complexity around us just falling together just doesn't make sense. I agree though that the "believe me or suffer eternal damnation" is rough stuff.
Maj Magister If u wanna roll with that belief, cool. No judgement here.
"If you're not with me you're against me"--Mathew 12:30......"If you deny me infront of you friends I will deny you in front of the father.--Mathew 10:33....."No one get to the father but by me"--John 14:6. Not believing in Jesus is quite the risk. Are you sure you're ready to take that gamble. You gain nothing by denying him! But by accepting him you gain an eternity in paradise!
As a Christian, I actually like this video more than most. The speaker has obviously delved into questions of theology and come up with some thought-provoking doubts. Of course, I disagree with his conclusions, but I think it would be a delight to talk to him or someone who agrees with this one-on-one to tackle these issues.
I'll offer one counter-point in the limited space: China wasn't the only culture to have writings in early history. The Torah, the Koran, and the Bible are proof of that.
This man is a honest God , offerd truth stud by it and never faulted. No longer with us sadly, my respects for his care consideration his honest humanity
There are TWO wind situations in the photograph. One is heading south from the Mediterranean. This one DOES NOT carry sand with it. The other is the STRONGER of the two, the northeasterly wind from Africa. When the southerly wind meets the north-easterly it does not divert it or prevent it from crossing The Red Sea, it only pushes the whole mass southward. The sand storm problem does not occur until they meet,which is half way down.Thus travelers above that intersection would be spared the brunt
Beautifully put
He took all the World's Sin on his shoulders for all of our mistakes. Jesus didn't just die on a cross; he went to HELL for us. He died because he loves us even when we ALL pushed him out of our lives. 😇✝
😂😢 HE DIED BUT 3 DAYS LATER HE CAME BACK TO LIFE WHAT IS THE POINT, AND AFTER THAT HE LIVED FOREVER IN HEAVEN. SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD DEAL TO ME
That's the point! We should be punished for our sins, it's not right for someone else to take our sins. But that's where grace abounds! It shouldn't make any sense and it doesn't. But that's the beauty of Jesus.
Also we must realize that almost every historian of this field will say Jesus was a real person(there's no getting around that, unless you are just being oblivious on purpose), the question is did Jesus really do what he said he was going to do(die on a cross and rise from the grave). That's where the believing part comes in in Christianity.
The wisdom of the Hitch...
"The struggle, so violent in the early days of science, between the views of Ptolemy and Copernicus would then be quite meaningless. Either CS could be used with equal justification. The two sentences, 'the sun is at rest and the earth moves,' or 'the sun moves and the earth is at rest,' would simply mean two different conventions concerning two different CS." Albert Einstein (CS = coordinate systems)
The bit about "Let my people go" was part of the act, so that the priesthood of Amun (the power elite) would suspect neither his true identity nor his true motive. By appealing to his successors (his sons Semenke and Tut, both of whom died mysteriously after a brief reign) he hoped to avoid assasination. When his sons co-operated, the priesthood might have assassinated them and gone after him.
Lucky to have the opportunity to listen to him
Sandstorms on The Red Sea tend to cross it from west to east, which would effectively create a barrier to chariots coming up from the south of Egypt. As the narrowest channel in the Red Sea (where Moses was apparently headed) is to the north, it is very possible that it could have REMAINED behind them as they traveled northward, even as it raced across the lower basin. I think the author means that Moses (who was The Guide) directed the party in respect of the storm's position.
Humans can’t take away sins of others but God in Christ can because He determines what is just and Jesus died for the glory of God. Humans die because they sinned, Jesus died to show God’s justice and forgiveness at the cross.
Excuse excuses.
And yet, the three religious books I mentioned are far more well known the world over than any Chinese text, especially the Christian Bible, which is the most printed book in world history and translated into all speaking languages. It would seem that, if you want to attribute such things to God, the plan to make his message most available to all cultures worked perfectly.
Not that my interpretation would be definitive but--I see it as being a DISTANT sandstorm that guided them in the sense of providing a wall of sand to obscure them from their pursuers' sight, something to keep in front of so as to hide themselves, obscure their tracks and make horse-driven chariots very impractical. I would say that a twister or tornado would qualify as a sort of pillar. In any case columns of sand are elements of desert storms, and we're not exactly sure of our inflection here.
Without faith it is impossible to please God... faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. Belief is an act of the will... a response to the effectual call of God through/by His Spirit.
Good old Hitch, R.I.P. sir.
The only thing I disagree with Hitch is the start date of man's evolution. It is now more than 4 000 000 years ago. This strengthens Hitch's argument even more and strikes another blow to Creationists.
He meant specifically modern Homo Sapiens I think.
Homo sapiens is about 200 000 years old. The earliest homo gene about 4 million.
I would say that our species evolution started with the first life on the planet.