Very nice build. I've been wanting a pan brake for a long time but the cost of one has always held me back. This build will definitely be in my future. Thanks for sharing.
Great stuff sir. I can’t help but say something. When you were working in the lathe, at about 37-38 minutes in, you reached with your left hand over/near the chuck and my heart stopped while my butt cheeks clenched! You seemed to be pretty aware of things, I’m not sure what your background is or any of that. I’ve seen enough and been preached to by those smarter and had all of their fingers in retirement to hear them out. Long sleeve’s are dangerous around machine tools! If you haven’t heard of Mr. Pete (the RUclips shop teacher) is highly encourage you to check out his videos. Of course there’s the other videos out there with accidents involving machining…those are gnarly 😱
@@orangetruckman yes that is true and I don’t recommend it 😂. The lathe I’m running is belt driven and low torque, it can still hurt you but it’s not going to pull you in and turn you into pink mist. I practice the no long sleeve rules with big machines but I’ve got 15 years of experience on these and worked several years as a gear machinist all manual machines, I guess you could say I’m overly comfortable on my own equipment as I have thousands of hours on my own lathe and mill. A ring on my finger is more worrisome to me than a long sleeve in my shop.
@@forwardmotionroboticsNever get comfortable running these machines. People shrug it off, safety first, ha, ha. They call them accidents because they aren’t planned. Slow rpm machines just gives you more time resent your action, as the machine eats you up. Also, use a spot drill for spotting your holes. Center drill is a lathe tool. Also, use stubby drills and skip the spot drill completely. Silver and Deming drills shouldn’t be used in a chuck. Power tap with your hand drill. Seems sketchy at first but is real easy to do. Being in a chair means you get a great view of the chips coming off your work. You don’t have the support running in reverse when you part in the lathe. Carbide needs a solid set up. I’m commenting as I watch putting my leg on. Good luck, safety FIRST.
@@lesliesmith2586bolting on the apron angle in the front is a must. Good call. On my brake it’s welded on and becomes a problem for a number of bend scenarios. Just the other day I was bending a drip edge for an aluminum racecar roof and was limited to a two inch inner drop on a _Π shaped bend because of the 2” angle on the front. Luckily the rules don’t explicitly call out the maximum dimension there or I would have been in trouble. Some sanctions call for a 1” maximum rise on the edges of the roof. You could make that bend by removing that angle. You should also consider making the entire front bending leaf removable then you can make radius dies/fingers and bolt on a radius leaf with a rolling bar that rolls over the fingers rather then a tight pinch from the 1/2 bar stock. You could different radius bends. You nay even be able to use the square end of the Fingers as long as the edge of the radius still hits the back stop. Then you can just flip the fingers around to make a radius bend. You’d have a set of holes on each end of each finger but they won’t effect anything. Kinda sick to have dual purpose fingers. My brakes isn’t a finger break but the top pinch assembly flips over so you can do small radius bends. Don’t use it much but there are situations where it’s nice.
If your proficient with Fusion 360 or any other cad program you should draw up the brackets, finger widths / mounting holes and other details then sell the step files and component lists for a reasonable price. $10-15 or start a patreon or channel membership where you make them available for free as a perk. Might really help some guys out. Unfortunately many people do this and charge an unreasonable amount. If your not familiar with cad (I imagine you are) there’s plenty of viewers whom will probably contribute.
The Tuberverse sent me your video ! Glad they did ! You are so right about the Evolution saw. I built a free standing staircase for my new house out of an ibeam, 4” tubing, and 3/8” plate and the blade never dulled at all. Pretty impressive indeed ! I subbed man !
Awesome project. You solved my problem of not having a pan break. I'm going to jump on this right away. Thank you sir! Wish you much success with your buggies.
Don’t know why your wheel chaired but mad respect for moving forward in hugely positive direction. Having said that your skills are very good. Great job on the hand break. I have a 4 ft break I wish was a pan break hence the draw to vid. Subscribed with pleasure. Looking forward to more.
Yahoo! Lol another hotrodder in a wheelchair, I think theres only a few of us. Im learning a lot of work arounds being in a chair myself. Watching your videos im sure ill learn more. Thanks
@@jimzivny1554 thanks! We gotta look out for each other haha. I’ll have new vids coming on tools and how I set my shop up for my chair. Hot rod build will definitely come!
I have one of those brakes in my shed that was my father in laws. Never paid much attention to it, but this would make it a lot more useful. I might copy you.
Love the mod and build to your break. Will be following along to see more from you and how the mod is performing on your HF break, now Pan and box break. Great job. Will be adding a pan break to my shop soon. have the same 20 ton press and the same issues.
Very nice build. I've got the same brake and I'll be making those mods also, I'm looking for another to make into a brake that does radius bends but thats for the future. Thanks for sharing, looking forward to seeing more videos
Nice job on your brake! One suggestion would be to swap the clamping handles end to end. That way you can pull down to clamp rather than having to push up. Mine works so much better that way!
It always excites me to see defferanly able folks with all manner of both physical,cognitive and mental challenges adapting the tools that hey require to get their work done.
Killer video man. Best overall explanations and views I have seen in a long time. Definitely gained a new subscriber. Gonna start on mine in the morning thanks and keep it up
Subscribed ans Liked! Yes a video on the Fab table please! By the way back in April of 2022 i started documenting a similar finger brake build on garage journal. Sad to say it still isnt done, lol
Nice pace on your video. Steady camera, not jumping around, made watching and following along very easy. Building a break like this has been on my list for quite a while.
Great video! Easy to understand. I will say right after you talked about milling the fingers because tthey were .025" off and the next scene you have Harbor Freight drill bits front and center. I chuckled a bit. I had that same set and non of mine were straight...I mean VISUALLY OBVIIOUS. lol
I've seen videos of build from scratch. I find those to much time invested. Your method is an exellent way to go about getting a great pan box break. Well done. The cost breakdown says it all.🔧⚒️🔩
Nice build. I have been thinking about building a brake for a while and this one looks good. You have got my sub. keep up the good work from Tasmania Australia.
Excellent workmanship. I'd love to see more tool builds like this. Sorry to say but like orangetruckman, I had the same pucker moment when you reached over the chuck. For the workmanship and delivery you earned a sub...
Really good video. Nice presentation and to the point. Appreciate the tip on running the lathe in reverse with the parting bit. Going to try that. One thought on setting parts in the chop saw. When you set up to cut the miters you should consider putting a second piece on the opposite end of the vice so the vice head is not being forced to tilt when clamping. You get an even pressure on both ends. The plates can screw when an uneven force is applied. Also might want to consider putting a heat treatment on the edges of the fingers.
Nice job I really liked your version of a pan break. Looks like you just need wider legs on your break or maybe a leg you can flip down when you need to really have it not flip over lol😂
@@Razzleberry82 ooohhh, that actually sounds really nice I might convert it to something that swings down that would actually help me rolling in and out👍
Nice video, i liked and subscribed. I'm not heavy into metal working but love playing in my shop building things. I have only a few metal working tools. No mill, but I have a cold cut saw but its a 12 inch and a porta bandsaw in a swag table. Either way, I enjoyed your video and look forward to seeing some of your future projects.
One thing you could to do increase the longevity of those finger tips is to use hard face welding rod on the edges. Run a couple of beads on each one and grind them back to size. They use this on snow plows excavator buckets/teeth etc.
I just noticed that you only have two videos on your channel. I was surprised as you are very good at laying the process out and obviously have some mad fabrications skills! I would be very pleased to see more from your channel. I am not necessarily mobility challenged but would love to see how you attack the fabrication process of your projects. signed, new subscriber!
@@matthewmanuel8655 thanks Mathew appreciate it! I plan to make some more videos and go over some previous tool builds that I haven’t seen done before. Appreciate the support!
Dude, you have a sweet shop! What is that mill that you have? I like it! I just found your channel, and I am paralyzed as well. I love doing the same type of stuff you do building and modifying stuff! I love what you are doing! This is such a cool project, and I want to do the same thing to my brake, this is AWESOME! 👍 👌 👏 😎
Tip Make some or all of the fingers able to flip upside down and cut sections out of them so that you have multiple sized fingers to fit difficult jobs
@@kennyquad sure I can throw one together I’m in the process of cleaning up in here a bit and reorganizing but I had fun with the video and would like to do more, subscribe if you can, I’ve got some wild projects coming
I like what you did with your brake I just had to comment after watching you work on the lathe I was cringing, hoping you weren’t gonna catch your shirt sleeve on the chuck
Keep up the good work and reach across the chuck any time my heart won't stop. I do have one criticism and that is the music fill in is quite a bit louder than your talking voice. You have great presentation skills and I am looking forward to seeing next video
Nice modifications. The only recommendation that worked for me was, I swapped the cam handles so I can pull them toward me to tighten the material. Just less reaching.
@@bruceb6262 it’s precision Mathews for both. Subscribe if you can I’ll be doing a shop tour video soon since most of what I have are bench top machines
@50:58 i saw you stick your finger under the torch. Be careful.. i did this and it misfired, cauterized a nice hole thru my pinky finger.. 🤣 Great video and subscribed. Future videos please turn down the music a bit
Thanks for the advise I’m new to making these videos, I usually scrape the bottom of the tip while postflow is on to keep it clean but there is that risk lol
When my buddy and I bought one of those Harbor Freight brakes it was quite bowed on the top piece, but we were able to use the adjustment and take a bit of it out, but it's still not perfect.
good build! nice work! you need to clean your lathe, i thought mine was bad.... holy bird nests batman. and you should relocate that cross bar on the legs so you dont have to pop a wheelie every time you want to use that brake.
@@theoriginalDirtybill lol I clean that lathe once a week usually😂. That angle at the bottom is to set my wheels on, with the handles extended and bending heavier sheets, the whole brake will tilt up from you lifting it unless you’re standing on it or in my case sitting on it
@@nicholasgann2419 I made the fixture table, I’m going to drop a video on that as well soon. I didn’t film the whole build process and wish I did but I to pics and can lay out the process for you guys👍
@@wesman7837 it’s an electric vehicle that I can roll my wheelchair in and out of and get around my property with, I can haul stuff on it and do my chores, no need to transfer in and out of my wheelchair I can stay in it. I’ll have more videos on it soon but I design and build them in shop
You could absolutely do that but then you would need to make brackets on the back where the top section pivots. Also the side plates add a little strength and weight to it. It was easier for me to just drill new spots on the side plates
Very nice build. I've been wanting a pan brake for a long time but the cost of one has always held me back. This build will definitely be in my future. Thanks for sharing.
Great stuff sir. I can’t help but say something. When you were working in the lathe, at about 37-38 minutes in, you reached with your left hand over/near the chuck and my heart stopped while my butt cheeks clenched! You seemed to be pretty aware of things, I’m not sure what your background is or any of that. I’ve seen enough and been preached to by those smarter and had all of their fingers in retirement to hear them out. Long sleeve’s are dangerous around machine tools! If you haven’t heard of Mr. Pete (the RUclips shop teacher) is highly encourage you to check out his videos. Of course there’s the other videos out there with accidents involving machining…those are gnarly 😱
@@orangetruckman yes that is true and I don’t recommend it 😂. The lathe I’m running is belt driven and low torque, it can still hurt you but it’s not going to pull you in and turn you into pink mist. I practice the no long sleeve rules with big machines but I’ve got 15 years of experience on these and worked several years as a gear machinist all manual machines, I guess you could say I’m overly comfortable on my own equipment as I have thousands of hours on my own lathe and mill. A ring on my finger is more worrisome to me than a long sleeve in my shop.
@@forwardmotionroboticsNever get comfortable running these machines. People shrug it off, safety first, ha, ha. They call them accidents because they aren’t planned. Slow rpm machines just gives you more time resent your action, as the machine eats you up.
Also, use a spot drill for spotting your holes. Center drill is a lathe tool. Also, use stubby drills and skip the spot drill completely. Silver and Deming drills shouldn’t be used in a chuck.
Power tap with your hand drill. Seems sketchy at first but is real easy to do.
Being in a chair means you get a great view of the chips coming off your work.
You don’t have the support running in reverse when you part in the lathe. Carbide needs a solid set up.
I’m commenting as I watch putting my leg on. Good luck, safety FIRST.
@@lesliesmith2586bolting on the apron angle in the front is a must. Good call. On my brake it’s welded on and becomes a problem for a number of bend scenarios. Just the other day I was bending a drip edge for an aluminum racecar roof and was limited to a two inch inner drop on a _Π shaped bend because of the 2” angle on the front. Luckily the rules don’t explicitly call out the maximum dimension there or I would have been in trouble. Some sanctions call for a 1” maximum rise on the edges of the roof.
You could make that bend by removing that angle.
You should also consider making the entire front bending leaf removable then you can make radius dies/fingers and bolt on a radius leaf with a rolling bar that rolls over the fingers rather then a tight pinch from the 1/2 bar stock. You could different radius bends.
You nay even be able to use the square end of the Fingers as long as the edge of the radius still hits the back stop. Then you can just flip the fingers around to make a radius bend. You’d have a set of holes on each end of each finger but they won’t effect anything. Kinda sick to have dual purpose fingers. My brakes isn’t a finger break but the top pinch assembly flips over so you can do small radius bends. Don’t use it much but there are situations where it’s nice.
If your proficient with Fusion 360 or any other cad program you should draw up the brackets, finger widths / mounting holes and other details then sell the step files and component lists for a reasonable price. $10-15 or start a patreon or channel membership where you make them available for free as a perk. Might really help some guys out. Unfortunately many people do this and charge an unreasonable amount. If your not familiar with cad (I imagine you are) there’s plenty of viewers whom will probably contribute.
@ funny you say that man it’s already in the works, I have a cnc plasma table so I definitely can, I use dxf flies to cut.
The Tuberverse sent me your video ! Glad they did ! You are so right about the Evolution saw. I built a free standing staircase for my new house out of an ibeam, 4” tubing, and 3/8” plate and the blade never dulled at all. Pretty impressive indeed ! I subbed man !
Awesome project. You solved my problem of not having a pan break. I'm going to jump on this right away.
Thank you sir!
Wish you much success with your buggies.
Don’t know why your wheel chaired but mad respect for moving forward in hugely positive direction. Having said that your skills are very good. Great job on the hand break. I have a 4 ft break I wish was a pan break hence the draw to vid. Subscribed with pleasure. Looking forward to more.
Yahoo! Lol another hotrodder in a wheelchair, I think theres only a few of us. Im learning a lot of work arounds being in a chair myself. Watching your videos im sure ill learn more. Thanks
@@jimzivny1554 thanks! We gotta look out for each other haha. I’ll have new vids coming on tools and how I set my shop up for my chair. Hot rod build will definitely come!
Yup, me too, sometimes it's pretty tough to make things work for us, but we usually find a way! Stay up my brother!
I would like to see more about your fab table you are using. Those cut outs look very interesting.
Great video
@@kenjackson5938 I’ll be making one on it, it was a fun build. Thanks!
Yeah, that table is pretty AWESOME!
I have one of those brakes in my shed that was my father in laws. Never paid much attention to it, but this would make it a lot more useful. I might copy you.
Love the mod and build to your break. Will be following along to see more from you and how the mod is performing on your HF break, now Pan and box break.
Great job. Will be adding a pan break to my shop soon. have the same 20 ton press and the same issues.
Very nice build. I've got the same brake and I'll be making those mods also, I'm looking for another to make into a brake that does radius bends but thats for the future. Thanks for sharing, looking forward to seeing more videos
Nice job on your brake! One suggestion would be to swap the clamping handles end to end. That way you can pull down to clamp rather than having to push up. Mine works so much better that way!
@@pdnetzer9561 that’s a great idea and funny I was just thinking about that! Definitely gonna try it
I never thought about that, but that's a great idea!
Glad your keeping busy, more videos!
It always excites me to see defferanly able folks with all manner of both physical,cognitive and mental challenges adapting the tools that hey require to get their work done.
Good job bud I might take your idea for my self... you have a nice shop too I like it!!! Keep it up I'll keep watching
I just came across your channel! Great project, well done. Keep up the good work.
@@yadinganon5037 thank you, I’ll have more content coming out for some tooling and other projects some that I’ve already done that are useful for me
Killer video man. Best overall explanations and views I have seen in a long time. Definitely gained a new subscriber. Gonna start on mine in the morning thanks and keep it up
I’m impressed with your design and fab.
Awesome video you should add a second set lifting handles that way when your handles get level with the break you have a second set for more leverage.
Excellent job!!! I like your attention to detail.
Subscribed ans Liked! Yes a video on the Fab table please! By the way back in April of 2022 i started documenting a similar finger brake build on garage journal. Sad to say it still isnt done, lol
Nice pace on your video. Steady camera, not jumping around, made watching and following along very easy. Building a break like this has been on my list for quite a while.
Great video! Easy to understand. I will say right after you talked about milling the fingers because tthey were .025" off and the next scene you have Harbor Freight drill bits front and center. I chuckled a bit. I had that same set and non of mine were straight...I mean VISUALLY OBVIIOUS. lol
@@jayinmi3706 😂it’s a roll of the dice with those bits lol always gotta center drill first, thanks!
I've seen videos of build from scratch. I find those to much time invested. Your method is an exellent way to go about getting a great pan box break. Well done. The cost breakdown says it all.🔧⚒️🔩
Nice build. I have been thinking about building a brake for a while and this one looks good. You have got my sub. keep up the good work from Tasmania Australia.
Well done
Excellent workmanship. I'd love to see more tool builds like this. Sorry to say but like orangetruckman, I had the same pucker moment when you reached over the chuck. For the workmanship and delivery you earned a sub...
nice just found your channel love the build,
Really good video. Nice presentation and to the point. Appreciate the tip on running the lathe in reverse with the parting bit. Going to try that. One thought on setting parts in the chop saw. When you set up to cut the miters you should consider putting a second piece on the opposite end of the vice so the vice head is not being forced to tilt when clamping. You get an even pressure on both ends. The plates can screw when an uneven force is applied. Also might want to consider putting a heat treatment on the edges of the fingers.
He did have another piece to keep even pressure across the vice! What are you talking about?
@@wesman7837 Relax. I didnt see that is was a lot lower in height. What do you think im talking about.
Awesome idea and great video. Love seeing this kind of ingenuity.
I enjoyed your video very much!! It’s a nice build! Thanks !!
Awesome video! Been meaning to do this for awhile now, and you've laid it out perfectly. Thanks
Nice job I really liked your version of a pan break. Looks like you just need wider legs on your break or maybe a leg you can flip down when you need to really have it not flip over lol😂
@@Razzleberry82 ooohhh, that actually sounds really nice I might convert it to something that swings down that would actually help me rolling in and out👍
Nice video, i liked and subscribed. I'm not heavy into metal working but love playing in my shop building things. I have only a few metal working tools. No mill, but I have a cold cut saw but its a 12 inch and a porta bandsaw in a swag table. Either way, I enjoyed your video and look forward to seeing some of your future projects.
Great video. What an awesome project and can't believe how well that is performing. Look forward to more out of your channel
One thing you could to do increase the longevity of those finger tips is to use hard face welding rod on the edges. Run a couple of beads on each one and grind them back to size. They use this on snow plows excavator buckets/teeth etc.
@@gthree0239 I like that idea
I just noticed that you only have two videos on your channel. I was surprised as you are very good at laying the process out and obviously have some mad fabrications skills! I would be very pleased to see more from your channel. I am not necessarily mobility challenged but would love to see how you attack the fabrication process of your projects. signed, new subscriber!
@@matthewmanuel8655 thanks Mathew appreciate it! I plan to make some more videos and go over some previous tool builds that I haven’t seen done before. Appreciate the support!
Really nice job man and well done on the video.
You did an awesome job buddy and thank you 👍
Dude, you have a sweet shop! What is that mill that you have? I like it! I just found your channel, and I am paralyzed as well. I love doing the same type of stuff you do building and modifying stuff! I love what you are doing! This is such a cool project, and I want to do the same thing to my brake, this is AWESOME! 👍 👌 👏 😎
@@wesman7837 thanks I’ll have some vids coming up and have projects suited just for us👍
Awesome video, I would love to do this with my 48 inch TennSmith straight break. I don’t think I have the courage to actually try it though.
@@jasonhoffman9895 do it! It’s more straight forward than you think once you’ve drawn up the side plates to raise the top section. Glad I did it
Sick video. Can’t wait to see what other content you drop.
Awesome work..
Tip
Make some or all of the fingers able to flip upside down and cut sections out of them so that you have multiple sized fingers to fit difficult jobs
Great video!
Nice shop! Can we get a full tour video? Nice work on the mod!
@@kennyquad sure I can throw one together I’m in the process of cleaning up in here a bit and reorganizing but I had fun with the video and would like to do more, subscribe if you can, I’ve got some wild projects coming
I like what you did with your brake I just had to comment after watching you work on the lathe I was cringing, hoping you weren’t gonna catch your shirt sleeve on the chuck
Keep up the good work and reach across the chuck any time my heart won't stop. I do have one criticism and that is the music fill in is quite a bit louder than your talking voice. You have great presentation skills and I am looking forward to seeing next video
@@harryd5184 thanks and yeah I did notice that after uploading, easy fix for the next ones!👍
Box and pan bender!
Nice modifications. The only recommendation that worked for me was, I swapped the cam handles so I can pull them toward me to tighten the material. Just less reaching.
@@shloopter30 I’ve already turned them around and like it better👍
Good video 👍
awesome video! Now I want to make one hah!
@@BizzaroInc thanks man! I’ll get you set up with the parts lol
So nice!!!!
Great job excellent description of the whole process, Can you tell us what model mill and lathe you have.
@@bruceb6262 it’s precision Mathews for both. Subscribe if you can I’ll be doing a shop tour video soon since most of what I have are bench top machines
@50:58 i saw you stick your finger under the torch. Be careful.. i did this and it misfired, cauterized a nice hole thru my pinky finger.. 🤣
Great video and subscribed. Future videos please turn down the music a bit
Thanks for the advise I’m new to making these videos, I usually scrape the bottom of the tip while postflow is on to keep it clean but there is that risk lol
When my buddy and I bought one of those Harbor Freight brakes it was quite bowed on the top piece, but we were able to use the adjustment and take a bit of it out, but it's still not perfect.
good build! nice work! you need to clean your lathe, i thought mine was bad.... holy bird nests batman. and you should relocate that cross bar on the legs so you dont have to pop a wheelie every time you want to use that brake.
@@theoriginalDirtybill lol I clean that lathe once a week usually😂. That angle at the bottom is to set my wheels on, with the handles extended and bending heavier sheets, the whole brake will tilt up from you lifting it unless you’re standing on it or in my case sitting on it
@@forwardmotionrobotics makes sense.
Bon Boulo 😆😆👍👍
Great video.
Could/would you be willing to make and/or sell a set of fingers. I can cut and weld all day but have no machinery for milling.
@@bryanmican2838 message me through forwardmotionrobotics.com I have an email there and I can make a set for you👍
@@bryanmican2838 message me through forwardmotionrobotics.com I have an email there and I can make a set for you
What blade were you using because I got the same one but I go through blades a lot takes forever
whos makes the fab/fixture table??
@@nicholasgann2419 I made the fixture table, I’m going to drop a video on that as well soon. I didn’t film the whole build process and wish I did but I to pics and can lay out the process for you guys👍
Hey, what is the "low track" that you were talking about?
@@wesman7837 it’s an electric vehicle that I can roll my wheelchair in and out of and get around my property with, I can haul stuff on it and do my chores, no need to transfer in and out of my wheelchair I can stay in it. I’ll have more videos on it soon but I design and build them in shop
Would moving the bottom pins for the clamps work instead of everything up top?
You could absolutely do that but then you would need to make brackets on the back where the top section pivots. Also the side plates add a little strength and weight to it. It was easier for me to just drill new spots on the side plates
What color green did you use ¿ thanks
@@johnnyjohnson3503 it’s called grabber green
One way to lose a arm is wearing long sleeves while using a lathe
You should each contact one another, I could see some chemistry with both your know how!!!
youtuber TOTALLY NORMAL
i like the channel but the music hurts it in my opinion
Hey! You could add hydraulics in the future!