Thanks the shoutout. Umm you are not convincing me that I need a 400g plus shoe and especially a Hoka one which is a brand I have never generally found much love for in their shoes.
I received mine today, 15km with 05:20/km for the first ride out of the box and it felt fantastic, I love them. Really comfortable, really protective, fun ride with low heart rate. Surprise of the year for me so far. If you are a heavy runner, definitely give it a try.
Love the fit of hokas. Speedgoats, machs and carbon x are lines I’ve really enjoyed. Might give this a go when my invincible 2s have done their stint, if I can get them in a sale.
I think fit is very personal. I see a lot of people complaining about the fit of hokas but I’ve really liked the fit of the ones I’ve tried. Haven’t tried any NB running shoes so can’t comment on the rebel.
I actually love the elf heel.. its the best feature of any shoe that you could wear for everyday use.. I can slip in to all my elf heel shoes without untying the shoe or even need to use my hands. It just slips your feet in. This isnt even relaterad to running lol. Just a neat everyday feature
I dont get a running fit. But my work shoes are a pair of brooks hyperion tempo. I dont want a super tight fot when sliding around at work. For running i always tie ofcourse ❤
I've heard a rumour that Asics are releasing a Glideride Max. I put over 500 miles on my Glideride 3's so would love Asics to release another version 👍🏻
Thanks for this information about the new hoka Skyward. Like to EDDBUD. The Hoka carbon x3 is dead. The Hoka Bondi X is dead. Have a great solar eclipse day.
Missed out on my A-goal for Sheffield Half due to a ruddy typhoid blowing, however still PB'd managing to come in as 23rd finisher with 1:20:54. Think Rodders driving the van with Nerys cowering in the footwell. I think I'm in the same state as the van was after he'd given it back to Del 🤕
@@EDDBUD Ecclesall Road (miles 10-12) was like Call of the Wild 🐕, plenty of friendly looking dogs spectating to look at and take my mind off the pain. Great race though to be honest and loads of local support cheering you on! 😄
Great review Ed! I got the Hoka Cielo X1 recently, and that is my surprise shoe of the year (despite the horrendous laces). Hoka is now back on my radar, but this sounds like a more nerfed PXS V2, which I am gonna pass (The PXS V2 is heavy enough already).
Great video as usual @EDDBUD! Over here in the US the shoe is priced at $224.99. That puts it against supertrainers like the Asics Superblast. I imagine the high price would potentially change your opinion of the shoe.
@@EDDBUD Yh I’m rotating 3 pairs atm but they are all nearing 300 miles I know I can take them to 500 but after that I’m worried. 9.5s seem to be extinct now as well but I’ll keep searching 🐐
I did my first run in these day. I'm a heavy (and old) runner, so I try and do most of my runs in a shoe that gives me a bit of cushioning. Novablast 1-3 were great (4 not so much) and the Invincible Runs were great - but did't last more than 350km for me. It's a tall shoe and when you first put them on, you feel the height. I was surprised that I didn't feel that super soft bounce that the Invincible Runs have, it's much firmer and more controlled. Once you set off (and I'm a solid 6:30/km easy runner) the mechanics of the foams and plate kick in and I noticed I was running a little faster at a lower HR. I did about 9km in it and finished feeling pretty good. I take an 11 too and have a fairly wide foot. I found the toe box ok, but a little cramped in the middle, but not uncomfortable, but just aware of the shoe at the end of the run. Pretty happy with it, looking forward to breaking it in some more.
10 yesterday in them, you can beat them up and they're bouncy as hell. Heavy so good for training and I felt like I was running slow but my pace was faster than usual. I usually do running in bondi 7
Hoka just seem to be throwing out random shoes left, right and centre and hoping they connect with runners, maybe they've missed with this one, I'll stick to my Superblast!
Triumph 22 will be on my wish list. This one is a bit too heavy plus if I were to get a max stack shoe I'd probably opt for the Superblast 2 when it comes out if I had the money. Hoka are too expensive in Australia. I would be surprised if this isn't $320 or more when it releases here. Mind you Superblast is ridiculously expensive too. Thanks for the review Edd.
Would you think a heavy runner (such as myself) would get a lot of relief from using these as the daily beater? Currently using the saucony endorphin shift 3 and enjoying those for this purpose but really like the look of these.
My nimbus 25s are well over 300 miles now, and I was thinking of the 26's. These sound like a potential replacement as an easy day/long shoe, especially at around £150
Haven't used that one yet..I am really enjoying the Cielo x1 as a marathon training shoe..I know you did like the puma liberty and if you want a similar but better shoe try the Cielo road..it's what the liberty wishes it could be ..a longish ,canoe that should fit the Edd flippers..probably even more tim gross..😊
Appreciate the review and you shelling out your hard-earned Earth credits for these shoes. I will probably pass on these based on what you are saying, though they don't sound bad for a gen 1.
Weight is definitely a deal-breaker. I need size 11US, and frankly, weighing less than 160lbs and (luckily) with good biomechanics, my cushioning needs suggest a substantial saving in both money and overall weight ...
Great review thanks. I'd love to ask for your advice - I'm not a runner but work in a school so am on my feet all day. Have a pair of Clifton 9s & Nimbus 24s but want to upgrade. Do you recommend Nimbus 25, 26s or these Hokas for every day all day on my feet walking or anything else? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Hi Ed, what do you think about the ultra marathon distance like a 24 hour race or 100 miler. Do you think this would be a good shoe for that or is it just too heavy?
I really think most of the midsole look is more carrier foam than actual midsole thikness. Shoes are so deceiving. I think it's all part of scamming the public into thinking they are max cushion without being max cushion. Looks like it, but actually has a standard midsole thickness.
Why are shoe companies obsessed with super stack max cushioned shoes and stick in a carbon plate to help with propulsion to offset the weight a bit. Do we not want to feel the ground anymore and keep our feet asleep🤔
@@EDDBUD don’t get me wrong I like a cushioned shoe(triumph 21,more v4 and Superblast are my current stackers) but don’t quite get putting a carbon plate in a super stack highly cushioned shoe for the paces you mentioned reducing flexibility and making your feet lazy. Race/tempo shoes yes.
Mine arrived, fit is great, quality feel and feel stable compared to triumph 21 which are too soft with an unstable feel and 10mm is a bit much. Yet to run in mine as day they arrived chest infection started grhhhhh 😢 only bought as was sick of waiting for ASICS superblast.
@@EDDBUD even with the bad chest still managing the gym for S+C so not all bad just the cardio work this past week 🥲 4 new shoes added recently mainly on your advise, cheers budd 🤪
@@EDDBUDagree 🎉 lots of negative comments missing the point of this type of shoe, for long easy to steady miles these are great to add in the mix, mid height drop easier on the knees, more stable foam than max stack Saucony’s.
Hoka always makes ugly shoes--but this is really a new level of absurdity. It looks like the Fisher-Price My First Running Shoe in that juvenile primary color scheme.
@@EDDBUD Oh, I certainly agree with that. I always opt for colorful shoes (I don't think I've ever bought black). I just think these look like they might belong on a playground supervisor.
Stop reviewing these plated clown shoes Edd. You keep making me buy them. Not the same as Prime X v1 but a similar level of lunacy is on offer. I know opinion is divided but I think they rock
@@EDDBUD Ok, so ordered the Mach 6. Same weird oblong shape as other Hokas I’ve tried and sent back (Bondi and Clifton). Too narrow across forefoot too, can feel side digging into little toe area/side of foot (even Tak Sen, Sky Paris have more room and I certainly don’t have wide feet). So these are also getting sent back. My Ride 15s are way more comfortable as are my deviate nitro 2s (and tak sen, sky paris, altras etc). Shame, was hoping they’d be suitable!
@@EDDBUD definitely some great shoes.... I suppose it comes down to a matter of opinion but the only shoe that has been best for a specific 'type of run' has been the speedgoat. If you're spending that type of money on the rocket x2 you will pick the alphafly, vaporfly, endorphin elite, pro, the list goes on and on. If you're spending silly money for a shoe in the boat/ recovery category then we have the superblast, NB more 4, kinvara pro, prime x (all of which sound lighter and more versatile). So unless you're sent this one for free then you're likely to go to another brand. I'll call it a flop but time will tell. 👍
Thanks the shoutout. Umm you are not convincing me that I need a 400g plus shoe and especially a Hoka one which is a brand I have never generally found much love for in their shoes.
Don’t buy these Tim. Absolutely not for you
@@EDDBUDI’m picking up a pair. You’ve convinced me enough 🤣!!
Totally agree Tim...I've had a few over the years and regretted buying every one....very mediocre in my opinion.
I received mine today, 15km with 05:20/km for the first ride out of the box and it felt fantastic, I love them. Really comfortable, really protective, fun ride with low heart rate. Surprise of the year for me so far. If you are a heavy runner, definitely give it a try.
Agree with previous comment - will pass on this one and wait for triumph 22. Thanks Ed
Waiting for the Triumph 22 personally.
Yeah me to.
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Yeah sadly I'm guessing it will be $40 more for the new name and foam combo
Finally a legit review of this shoe! Thanks Edd. Will pick these up in the US when they release for sure.
Love the fit of hokas. Speedgoats, machs and carbon x are lines I’ve really enjoyed. Might give this a go when my invincible 2s have done their stint, if I can get them in a sale.
Yeah the recent Hoka shoes fit me like a glove
@BFGriffy Have you tried the Hoka shoe in question?
I think fit is very personal. I see a lot of people complaining about the fit of hokas but I’ve really liked the fit of the ones I’ve tried. Haven’t tried any NB running shoes so can’t comment on the rebel.
Squidward X? Let's wait when it's discounted 😊
Forgiving squash...sounds comfy...thanks Edd
It’s certainly that!
I try them in store; they really feel good
EDD always spits bars. In another life Edd was a hip hop artist ❤
Yes early days late 80’s how I got into music. Two turntables and an old mixer. Spent my pocket money on records and shoe. Just like now. 🤣👍🏼
You are not wrong 😂
the UK Eminem
I actually love the elf heel.. its the best feature of any shoe that you could wear for everyday use..
I can slip in to all my elf heel shoes without untying the shoe or even need to use my hands. It just slips your feet in.
This isnt even relaterad to running lol. Just a neat everyday feature
Always untie my shoes. Never achieve a good fit taking them off by the heel
I’ve heard it’s really a bad idea --hard on the shoes-to leave them tied, FWIW
I dont get a running fit. But my work shoes are a pair of brooks hyperion tempo. I dont want a super tight fot when sliding around at work.
For running i always tie ofcourse ❤
My next max shoe will be the superblast hopefully
Thanks for the review Edd! Very interested in these as a potential Glideride 3* replacement.
*😢 Give us a Glideride 4, Asics.
Actually it’s very close to the old glide ride. Though with way more stack
I've heard a rumour that Asics are releasing a Glideride Max. I put over 500 miles on my Glideride 3's so would love Asics to release another version 👍🏻
Thank you Sir! 😎
I appreciate the super support!
@@EDDBUD all the love for my favourite channel.
Thanks for this information about the new hoka Skyward. Like to EDDBUD. The Hoka carbon x3 is dead. The Hoka Bondi X is dead. Have a great solar eclipse day.
It’s a big old midsole for sure
@@EDDBUD . Hi. I agree.
Missed out on my A-goal for Sheffield Half due to a ruddy typhoid blowing, however still PB'd managing to come in as 23rd finisher with 1:20:54. Think Rodders driving the van with Nerys cowering in the footwell. I think I'm in the same state as the van was after he'd given it back to Del 🤕
My lord. That’s quick. Faster than delboy and a suitcase full of toy dogs.
@@EDDBUD Ecclesall Road (miles 10-12) was like Call of the Wild 🐕, plenty of friendly looking dogs spectating to look at and take my mind off the pain. Great race though to be honest and loads of local support cheering you on! 😄
Thanks for the video! Was thinking about this VS the ON Cloud Eclipse for the daily max... Full comparison maybe?
Prefer the lighter eclipse I think
Thanks edd! Im sold gonna use this as workhorse . For the price expecting at least 500- 600miles out of this
There’s some solid rubber here
Great review Ed! I got the Hoka Cielo X1 recently, and that is my surprise shoe of the year (despite the horrendous laces). Hoka is now back on my radar, but this sounds like a more nerfed PXS V2, which I am gonna pass (The PXS V2 is heavy enough already).
Great video as usual @EDDBUD! Over here in the US the shoe is priced at $224.99. That puts it against supertrainers like the Asics Superblast. I imagine the high price would potentially change your opinion of the shoe.
Why so expensive there?! Crazy
@@EDDBUD I don't know. It's still set for pre-order. Hopefully the price drops before the actual release. Crazy!
This shoe is set for release on the 24th of April in the US.
Wouldn’t touch with a barge pole, inspires me though to keep stocking up on prime x ogs
Sadly no size 11’s going. Gutted
@@EDDBUD Yh I’m rotating 3 pairs atm but they are all nearing 300 miles I know I can take them to 500 but after that I’m worried. 9.5s seem to be extinct now as well but I’ll keep searching 🐐
Can't say i like the profile of this shoe. And with so many lighter options out there...
I like it! It’s very much max cushion which my old bones need from time to time
I did my first run in these day. I'm a heavy (and old) runner, so I try and do most of my runs in a shoe that gives me a bit of cushioning. Novablast 1-3 were great (4 not so much) and the Invincible Runs were great - but did't last more than 350km for me.
It's a tall shoe and when you first put them on, you feel the height. I was surprised that I didn't feel that super soft bounce that the Invincible Runs have, it's much firmer and more controlled. Once you set off (and I'm a solid 6:30/km easy runner) the mechanics of the foams and plate kick in and I noticed I was running a little faster at a lower HR. I did about 9km in it and finished feeling pretty good.
I take an 11 too and have a fairly wide foot. I found the toe box ok, but a little cramped in the middle, but not uncomfortable, but just aware of the shoe at the end of the run.
Pretty happy with it, looking forward to breaking it in some more.
How is it dong after two months?
@@henya2409 Great, still using them daily. They've kept their bounce and spring. I ran in other shoes and felt like I was running in treacle.
Like the Bred Imagined’s in the background 👍🏽
Lovely shoes. Quite comfortable too underfoot
10 yesterday in them, you can beat them up and they're bouncy as hell. Heavy so good for training and I felt like I was running slow but my pace was faster than usual. I usually do running in bondi 7
They do break in after a while. Quite like my pair
Hoka just seem to be throwing out random shoes left, right and centre and hoping they connect with runners, maybe they've missed with this one, I'll stick to my Superblast!
Triumph 22 will be on my wish list. This one is a bit too heavy plus if I were to get a max stack shoe I'd probably opt for the Superblast 2 when it comes out if I had the money. Hoka are too expensive in Australia. I would be surprised if this isn't $320 or more when it releases here. Mind you Superblast is ridiculously expensive too. Thanks for the review Edd.
Thanks
Much appreciated super support
@@EDDBUD no problem at all
My comment on the 🤖
Danke!
Would you think a heavy runner (such as myself) would get a lot of relief from using these as the daily beater? Currently using the saucony endorphin shift 3 and enjoying those for this purpose but really like the look of these.
Yes good application for this shoe
I'm 110kg and I ran in these for the first time today and loved them. It does feel like your ankles and knees take less of a beating.
The look reminds me of the Endorphin Shift. How does this compare to the SC Trainer?
Yes similar vibe. I guess the sc trainer 2 is close to this
Thanks Ed. This will help our customers. Except pricing. In Australia the shoe is over $100 more than the Nimbus 26.
Crazy. Why so high?!
@@EDDBUD That is a good question, and one I wish I knew the answer to.
Great video as always. Think I’ll stick to my Saucony Triumphs.
The whole kitchen sink 😂😂😂 got me laughing a lot! 😂
My nimbus 25s are well over 300 miles now, and I was thinking of the 26's. These sound like a potential replacement as an easy day/long shoe, especially at around £150
A bit different to the nimbus. A little more to it and perhaps that but more propulsive. Bit more like the primex 2 strung
Haven't used that one yet..I am really enjoying the Cielo x1 as a marathon training shoe..I know you did like the puma liberty and if you want a similar but better shoe try the Cielo road..it's what the liberty wishes it could be ..a longish ,canoe that should fit the Edd flippers..probably even more tim gross..😊
Out of the two the Cielo is my fav. It’s a bit more nimble and mailable.
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Great review ed, would u say the Hoka skyward x better than the Nike invinble 3, plus would the Hoka skyward be good for long walks and 3 mile jogs
3 miles 😂😂😂
You can use every normal joggers for this distance
imo Hoka is better
@@Aron-t6mWhat’s wrong with 3 miles? Are like 10?
@@JordanMVP10 Nothing! He just wanted to feel superior.
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Sneaker head showing off some bred 4’s
On foot right now!
Thicc!!
Appreciate the review and you shelling out your hard-earned Earth credits for these shoes. I will probably pass on these based on what you are saying, though they don't sound bad for a gen 1.
Yeah it’s more in the mould of the primex 2 than anything
Why do they remind me of 70's disco shoes?
Hoka Travolta then ...
Glam rock style
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How does it compare to foreverrun and vomero 17
Both feel more traditional and a little less clunky. Though oddly the mass helps the skyward x at fast pace!
@EDDBUD So, which out of the three would be your favorite?
Whenever I see the word "hoka", I just hear "narrow" and "massive blisters" not a brand I can get on with
It’s actually not that narrow
Not the case with this one, and I've usually gone for a 'wide' option where possible with Hoka. It's a good fit, no rubbing or very tight spots.
This ones a Nay from me. I'm gonna look more at the Cielo X1 I think 🤔
Yeah it’s the more race like fun shoe
Weight is definitely a deal-breaker. I need size 11US, and frankly, weighing less than 160lbs and (luckily) with good biomechanics, my cushioning needs suggest a substantial saving in both money and overall weight ...
The invincible run for me was always an easier paced shoe. Same weight as this one
80th?
Always tuning in though. I appreciate it 👍🏼👊
Great review thanks. I'd love to ask for your advice - I'm not a runner but work in a school so am on my feet all day. Have a pair of Clifton 9s & Nimbus 24s but want to upgrade. Do you recommend Nimbus 25, 26s or these Hokas for every day all day on my feet walking or anything else? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Nimbus perfect for that. Walking, running, standing up, all idea for that. 👍🏼
@@EDDBUD thank you. Do I get the 25s or the 26? Or is there not much difference?
@@adamrobins1884 little difference though prefer the slightly more mailable nimbus 26
@@EDDBUD thank you
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Hi Ed, what do you think about the ultra marathon distance like a 24 hour race or 100 miler. Do you think this would be a good shoe for that or is it just too heavy?
Maybe a bit heavy for that. The 100 mile type race is impossible to suggest a shoe for as anything will make mince meat of your feet. 👍🏼
They are made for it
Isnt it like 60-70 dollars more than the invincible run? Plus the Invincible run is on sale for like $120.
Retail prices. Here they sell for 175 minimum
Seems kinda boring when something like the SC trainer 1 and 2 exist lol
They do exist but are even more expensive
I really think most of the midsole look is more carrier foam than actual midsole thikness. Shoes are so deceiving. I think it's all part of scamming the public into thinking they are max cushion without being max cushion. Looks like it, but actually has a standard midsole thickness.
No it’s not. I measured it the same as all the others and they are correct.
@EDDBUD I just feel that carriers are there to make them look more max-cushioned than they actually are.
In Australia this cost $370 aud - for perspective superblast here is $320
- who gonna pay this much for brick like this 🤔
It’s no brick
I don't think a shoe is what you need if you want something that protects you from a pounding. :p :D
Pounding or the road. Maybe you can escape quickly.
Why are shoe companies obsessed with super stack max cushioned shoes and stick in a carbon plate to help with propulsion to offset the weight a bit. Do we not want to feel the ground anymore and keep our feet asleep🤔
Horses for courses
@@EDDBUD don’t get me wrong I like a cushioned shoe(triumph 21,more v4 and Superblast are my current stackers) but don’t quite get putting a carbon plate in a super stack highly cushioned shoe for the paces you mentioned reducing flexibility and making your feet lazy. Race/tempo shoes yes.
Bonkers clog 😂😂👍🏻
Mine arrived, fit is great, quality feel and feel stable compared to triumph 21 which are too soft with an unstable feel and 10mm is a bit much. Yet to run in mine as day they arrived chest infection started grhhhhh 😢 only bought as was sick of waiting for ASICS superblast.
Hope you recover soon!
@@EDDBUD even with the bad chest still managing the gym for S+C so not all bad just the cardio work this past week 🥲 4 new shoes added recently mainly on your advise, cheers budd 🤪
Why would you pick this over the bondi, i ask myself..and Ed
Never tried that one so can’t comment
Would this be a good walking everyday shoe
Bit tall for this. Try the Vomero 17
looks like the new balance trainer
Certainly close to it
Got love fuel cell 😂
Forgiving squash=merciful pumpkins?
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Wow, thought it was $225
185 here in the uk
It is $225 in the US
@@michaelcaricoo and available April 25th
It’s a bit of a niche brick…
[ *bangs hand on desk* ] NO to plated daily trainers!
Fair enough
Wow! Far heavier than a gore-tex trail shoe.
No it’s about the same weight maybe lower. You’re comparing against your size weight. For my size it’s the same
Have try them about 35 miles , they are bricks
35 miles 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Stop lying.
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Yes 3 runs 10 10 15
I quite like them! For a specific purpose that ties in with my training right now
@@EDDBUDagree 🎉 lots of negative comments missing the point of this type of shoe, for long easy to steady miles these are great to add in the mix, mid height drop easier on the knees, more stable foam than max stack Saucony’s.
At the price point, needs to be lighter. Same weight as a old school stability shoe
It’s quite a bit cheaper though and similar others in my size and weight
@@EDDBUD would the thoughts on the shoe change if you had it at 280-300g not 350g?
$225 in America when they release. 😢
Hoka always makes ugly shoes--but this is really a new level of absurdity. It looks like the Fisher-Price My First Running Shoe in that juvenile primary color scheme.
Not sure I agree. Not all want to wear boring black shoes
@@EDDBUD Oh, I certainly agree with that. I always opt for colorful shoes (I don't think I've ever bought black). I just think these look like they might belong on a playground supervisor.
Stop reviewing these plated clown shoes Edd. You keep making me buy them. Not the same as Prime X v1 but a similar level of lunacy is on offer. I know opinion is divided but I think they rock
I do have a soft spot for this one. No pun intended.
I'd pay an extra $20 to take the giant "HOKA" off the side...
It’s not too bad certainly if you match it against the Cielo x1. The skyward is understated compared to that shoe
It's a NO from me.
Not loving the price or look of this one. Hoka really struggles in the aesthetics department.
I quite like the profile. Reminds me of the Pegasus 35
@@EDDBUD - or Aquafresh toothpaste 🤣
I just don’t get on with Hokas at all
Any reason why?
@@EDDBUD Ok, so ordered the Mach 6. Same weird oblong shape as other Hokas I’ve tried and sent back (Bondi and Clifton). Too narrow across forefoot too, can feel side digging into little toe area/side of foot (even Tak Sen, Sky Paris have more room and I certainly don’t have wide feet). So these are also getting sent back. My Ride 15s are way more comfortable as are my deviate nitro 2s (and tak sen, sky paris, altras etc). Shame, was hoping they’d be suitable!
Too heavy
About as heavy as the primex 2 and invincible run. Trainer only
Why?!?
Why not. 🤣
Another flop from hoka
The rocket x 2 and Cielo x1 are great shoes. Not sure why this is a flop?
@@EDDBUD definitely some great shoes.... I suppose it comes down to a matter of opinion but the only shoe that has been best for a specific 'type of run' has been the speedgoat. If you're spending that type of money on the rocket x2 you will pick the alphafly, vaporfly, endorphin elite, pro, the list goes on and on. If you're spending silly money for a shoe in the boat/ recovery category then we have the superblast, NB more 4, kinvara pro, prime x (all of which sound lighter and more versatile). So unless you're sent this one for free then you're likely to go to another brand. I'll call it a flop but time will tell. 👍