h3 is good and bad? | 6 Vital Chess Principles
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- Welcome to Episode 2 of this "Book Club" series where we are currently going through the book: Logical Chess - Move by Move by Irving Chernev
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One of the big reasons you like your king on the opposite side of an attack is that you get to add pawns to your attack without degrading your king's defense structure.
Yeah but it's very imbalance
Cause Both side's do that and it's very hard to survive a flank
@@Embrace_Discomfort-99 Yep! Opposite castling games get very bloody. Usually best to do that when you've already got an attack going.
It's great that questions from the previous video are being answered.
This is a great concept. I hope you will make this a continuous series with lots of books
Chess Vibes, This is fantastic! I subscribed right away!
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Hi Nelson, I remember reading Grau's books (an Argentinian master from XX century. Often considered the father of the competitive practise in this country) and in his book: "Tratado general de ajedrez" gives a method, a way of thinking of always asking "what category my opponent's move falls into?" Is a attack, a defensive move, a developing move or maybe it is a mistake. So when you stop and start thinking about it as a newbie or maybe even as a intermediate you grow stronger. In the last you made me remember that lesson.
This series is highly informative and useful, thank you🎉
very cool idea to categorize your opponents move
I use SWOT for this
Strength Weakness (my own moves)
Opportunity Threat (opponents move)
But guess we all have different methods to get some structure in this.
I've watched a video by GM Igor Smirnov which also explained why we should not push the h-pawn too early: in a lot of cases the f-pawn could be pinned by a bishop or a queen, so if h-pawn is pushed, we will lose control of the g3/g6 square and opens opportunity for the opponent to attack
I am loving the Logical Chess series so far!
Thanks alot for reviewing my comment and other people's comments as well on the followup video. It is much appreciated!
You're a very good teacher of chess, and I couldn't do it any better myself :-)
Love this series Nelson! I just got my book in the mail today and am about to go back and rewatch episode 1. Thank you for putting this one together!
Love the series, and your explanation of each option at each step makes me a little smarter. Thx!
Great video! Really enjoying this bookclub series!
So enjoying this. I have the book and can't resist to go through it. Already got to the 4th game, so I'm really happy you are doing these weekly.
Awesome series! Thanks so much
Outstanding explanations and nuances about an outstanding game; Chess!
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You’re so cool and awesome. And that my friend is a massive massive understatement to you. The way you go into details with things is flippin awesome. Love your videos.
Great Stuff Nelson! Thank you so much.
Amazing! Looking forward to the next videos!
What a great series!! I am excited to watch the whole thing. 😊
Incredible job on these episodes. Just catching up but glad to have found the series on such an often recommended book.
Just want you to know that you’re my son’s favorite.. he’s only 4 but he’s roughly 400 and so thanks for making content for chess players of all levels, it’s much appreciated!
That was a great explanation for why not the Queen first in Game 1. I wasn't expecting I would be able to understand it.
Great Series of chess teaching content you came up with, thank you very much!
You're awesome Nelson! Thanks for this series.
Great series! I'm finding it very interesting and helpful. Thank you!
I purchased the book and love it. Thank you. It also helps hearing you talk through the moves from your own understanding. Thanks again!
on game 1 instead of going back with the bishop on a7 you can take the pawn on a5, if they capture back with the rook, you take with the knight and if they give a check with the queen on a4 trying to win the knight back then you just jump back with the knight on c6, blocking th check and you have a rook and a pawn for a bishop
can you explain in fortnite terms
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I understand its a bit complicated.But here's the solution:
As you said after Bxa5, Rxa5, Nxa5 and Qa4 as you pointed Nc6 back after Nc6 you can go d5 I belive and if b5 counter attacking the Queen You can take en passant And if you take the pawn back with the bishop you lose the Rook on a8.
And in that position of you went Bd7 for example you just take the knight and I think it should be quite winning.
And incase of Nxe4 you take the knight if bxc6 Qxc6 and it's a fork.
There may be several mistakes in this I am not sure if there any It will be good to know.
I am not that good at chess just an intermediate player and this wasn't easy as I should calculate without actually making any moves visually
Thankyou
If you're not clear with anything else ask me
Enjoying the book and enjoying the video series, thank you!
This video was extremely helpful. Thanks.
Thank you for going over these games so well. I am learning a lot.
Nice 👍. Really appreciate that you decided to do this every week
Nelson: this format is fantastic. Being able to read the book first makes your video lesson more effective in terms of understanding and memory retention. Please do post 1 game per week, outstanding content. Your explanation regarding the beginner's worry about back rank mate wrt game 1 makes so much sense. I never realised how damaging an early h3 could be in front of a castled king. Thank-you from Johannesburg, South Africa.
One of the best chess videos I have seen. Thanks !
This is so good dude. Thank you Nelson! You are great at explaining to the mid-range players
This is such a great series! Thanks
Loving this series. So glad youre going to one per week!
It's just nice that I discovered the channel at a crucial point. Mind blowing 💯 don't think I'll miss any drop onwards.
Thanks you so much for tips your coli worked out so well. I really like how simple you explaing thing 😌
How to deal with a situation like in this position 19:03 you have black , you had castled on the kings side and white had pinned your knight with its dark bishop
QUESTION : In principle 5 . By losing our pawns material gets imbalance , the king gets exposed due to this and opponent can take advantage of it if our attack do not last long this may result in bad position in many cases
I once saw a nice video from Anish Giri about the italian game. He mentioned that the h3 move is quite helpful to guard g4. But because of attacks like in this video it MUST NOT be played until black castled king side.
bro alwways dropping bangers fr good stuff keep it up
It's scary putting your queen at capturing range of a pawn even if it's pinned. You're like "what if I didn't see some random bishop across the chessboard that can mess my plan up or what if I forgot the rules of chess"
Might not be directly relatable, but today in the Hikaru Nakamura vs Vidit GujrathI game there was a h3 pawn move targeted in a similar way that lead to a black advantage
Great video!
Thanks for the great lessons Nelson. You are my favorite chess RUclipsr!
Just sharing as a friendly advice - All printed books will have disclaimer like “cannot reproduce in any shape or form, in parts or whole without permission” so please use your best judgment when deciding what content you make, how deep you get into it. In a way you are helping the book gain popularity, but publisher may feel you discourage purchase by sharing most of the principles here.
These are great but a consistent video title, maybe “Logical Chess” with Game 1, Game 2, etc, would be very helpful in going through these as we go through the book. Having to start all your videos to find the next one.
fantastic content thank you
Chess vibes delivering once again, this series will become a classic on YT!
Wanted add a picture as beautifull check mate, but sadly couldn't find it. I would say you are the best as making videos making so much sense, and not memorising moves but ideas how and why ❤️
At last
After Qh3 by black
what if white plays g3?
g3 is a very temporary, actually false, solution. The Queen is now safe and frees the rook for other ideas besides maintaining the pin. So then ...Rh8! and there is no longer an escape through f2: this time, when White tries f3 to make space for the King, g3 move has allowed the black Queen to communicate, through the **empty** g2, with the f2 escape route!
What a prescient video, this came out right before the Hikaru-Vidit candidates game. Nice job Nelson!
It was helpful to watch.🙂
Thinking about a position from both the white and the black perspective is super helpful.
Definitely learning some end game tips
Thank you!!
HI Nelson just wanted to ask that there was a better move in Game one when Direct Qg3 was played without sacrificing the bishop Black had Qf6 which could be more effective. Tho loving the series 😀🎉
Good tips and good video
Weekly is a good change. Saw Ep. 1 on Saturday, ordered the book and caught up. Looking forward to Ep. 3. BTW played a game where my opponent was 0-0 and played an early h3 - no bueno for my opponent. After game analysis - 2 Brilliant moves with the attack on h3.
this series made me subscribe after watching several videos of yours anyway
Nelson you have said the Queen is worse than a combination of 3 peices but in games the queen can overpower them when they are tangled and stuck defending eachother especially when rooks are involved or its in the endgame with fewer pawns to defend the pieces. What would you recommend to untangle them.
Thank you bro🎉
Me: “watches this video halfway and thinks he turned into Magnus Carlson”
“Plays 2 rapid games”
“Loses both of them”
“Comes back to watch the full video”
Glad you brought up Q-G3 on first game. I discarded the move because I saw white had Q-F3 defended by the knight. This basically forces blacks queen away with tempo or a trade. But I completely missed K-A1.
On the second game, the move I was trying to explore with white was after he took the pawn with B-H3. Instead of retreating the dark square bishop I was trying to move the light square bishop to C3 check. King has to go to D1 and can’t move - didn’t see a mate but seemed better than retreating.
05:00 after the bishop sacrifice you could play Nf3 to atack the queen
28:18 What if Rf2 to protect the check, then if Bxf2+ , Qxf2 protecting the checkmate
One thing to consider when castling queen-side, is that your a-pawn is instantly weak as it has no king or rook to defend it, whereas if you castle king-side, your king now protects the h-pawn (if it hasn’t been moved yet.) 😊
nelson but you said that develop your pieces before moving the pawns but in many of my games my opponents move the pawns first and then attack in a very crucial way
Danke!
20:26 Question: is there an advantage to moving the h pawn if there’s no bishop pinning the f pawn?
Thank you so much I've heard about the book but haven't had a chance to read it. Because of your "Book Club" series, finally, I am getting to know the classic.
I struggle to know when it’s a good time to push my flanking pawns, and I don’t know why it’s so good. I know it’s guarded by the rook, but often times it just feels like he’s marching up for a pawn trade. What long term strategies should I be considering when I push my flank pawns?
Thanks!
You bet!
after your first video i stopped playing h3/h6 often , i try to not play it at all if possible , but what if there is a pin with the bishop? when can we move h3/h6 when there is an annoying bishop blocking an attack?
Around 8:00 mark re: castling on which side. Is it also valid reason if white's minor pieces like the bishops and knight are in a better position to attack the king side? ie: dark squared bishop is blocked by the pawns on queenside.
1 game per week is great I’d been waiting for this one
What is a good method to disable pawn storms in whatever stage of the game?
If you don't move Ra3, then how do you deal with the bishop pinning the knight? I've been trying to avoid Ra3 lately and finding the pin pretty hard to deal with.
I had one question regarding to h3 pawn. In the opening when our knight is in f3 and the opponent pins our knight with bishop shall we attack the opponent's bishop with h3 or how do you deal in this situation without moving the h pawn.
Hope you still make those puzzles on puzzles island.
Are there any significant differences between the 1957 release of Logical Chess and the version you are teaching from? Amazon can’t deliver the current one until sometime in May, but the 1957 version will be here tomorrow, at half the price.
I always enjoy and learn from your lessons! I need to brush up on my chess now that my sons are beating me on a regular basis, so I am going back to the basics to see where I went wrong. And my grandson is rapidly getting good; I can’t have him beating me!!
There’s a good chance that the 1957 version uses descriptive notation, which is no problem if you’re comfortable with that.
I think its a little harsh to say that h3, g3, h6 or g6 is a mistake in the opening. In some openings it is even a critical aspect of the opening. Or sometimes kicking an opponents piece that might be overextended to gain a tempo. (It can be a multi use move gaining a tempo on an opponents piece and Creating an escape square for the King down the road)
Why not taking the h3 pawn with the bishop? As we did in earlier video with white pieces?
isn't h3 in opening/middlegame sometimes good to stop black's pieces from going to g4?
At 6:00, after Qe2, why not ng4? It guards the pawn on e5, it guards the bishop, it threatens mate in one, and if white takes with the H pawn, Qh4 is also mate, and white can't capture with queen because of the bishop on c8.. Am I missing something? Almost seems too good to be true
Question: wasn't it bad that black started the attack before finishing development? Ok king in the center not too bad because the position was closed by d5, but the other minor pieces?
What happens instead if rook blocks on the last example for white instead of queen takes bishop?
Good Idea Coach.
12:00 Knights can jump over pieces, so Principle 1 doesn't particularly apply to them. However, there is a variation for knights: Don't move your pawns where you want to put your knights!
12:47 This doesn't violate my previous comment, because White doesn't want to put his knight on c3.
13:59 Principle #3 from Game #1 was "These principles are great guideposts, but there are exceptions."
16:54 "A knight on the rim is grim; a knight in the corner is a go(r)ner."
27:58 And after g3, there's a mate in five. (NOW is the time for ... Rh8.)
I recognize Logical chess is one of the greatest books for beginners and intermediate players whom NM Lopez success to illustrate its qualities.
13:00 I feel like D5 is a great move after nf6 opening the bishop and if D4 you can just trade
Started playing chess in November I'm now 1050 elo thanks to your videos ❤
14:20 Why not play Qe7 first? Bb6 was because you expect white to go d4 but, if he plays a passive d3 (or something else), have you not wasted a tempo? Qe7 and Bb6 if d4 gets you the same result, but gives more options if d3. At this level I struggle to distinguish good prophylaxis from hope chess. For example (relevant to the is pawn h3 good issue) I tend to play Colle Zukertorte, and there is always a question of when h3 is good (depending on other B moves) to prevent an annoying Nb4 attacking the B on d3 in this Colle set up. The only obvious "No" is when B has played Nd7 so Nb4 is not a threat.
This was my question too. It didn't end up costing black in the game because d4 happened, but it seems like it would've been better to develop instead, and keep Bb6 as a response to d4, rather than anticipating it.
@@thomaswdyoungPerhaps he will comment next week - but I guess it is down to experience and recognising deeper strategic subteties. But it IS hard as a relative beginner. Another good example is when to push c4 (or c5 as black). I have lost count of the number of games where I push and the engine says 'bad move' but if I had done it on any of the previous 3 or 4 ( and somtimes then on several later moves) it would be have been excellent. I'm obviously missing something as in some cases I would clearly have a higher success rate if I tossed a coin rather than trying to work it out ...
suggestion- it would be helpful for beginners if you switched around the board so the white side is down.
Principle 4: if they move the bishop, you can go c5. If en passant, the knight recaptures? Why isn’t that better than undeveloping and blocking the rook again?
I believe it would be useful to include the episode number in the title unless I am missing something.
I have had the computer tell me many times to play h3 early …post game evaluation, of course.
After Qh3 what's the follow-up on g3? I do see Rxg3!! fxg3 Qxg3+ Qg2 Bxe3+ (or Kh1 Bxe3) that "looks" good but are these 2 pieces enough to win?
I answered in a different thread, same question.
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At 11:00, so why do we want to play Ne5?
7:30 why the long castle is the best move? I'd throw a check with a queen on g3 and continue with a fork Kxf2+. Are hidden threats here?
Even better: bishop takes f2, forces rook to take back, then Qg3+, and checkmate next move.