It looked to me in the Zagreb game like the Tuchel had lost the locker room. No offense to the Croatian minnows, but they are among the 3 worst teams in the competition. Pitch was fine, and Chelsea even got Kovacic back. Chelsea should have won that game confortably even after the early set back goal. But Chelsea looked devoid of ideas and confidence going forward.
I'm not a Chelsea FC fan, this sack was completely out of the blue for me. Kinda sad to see. Tuchel should've been given until January at the very least.
When I confront one of my friend who supported Chelsea, he was no longer surprised by this news. That's how bad Chelsea treated their managers in the past
I have been a Chelsea fan for 16 years. Never before have I gone weak at the knees at a manager sack. This guy deserved more time. Can't put the whole blame on the manager for shambolic form of his very average players
gonna really miss Tuchel. Gave us UEFA Champions League and carried activities of the team with extreme professionalism during his spell as Chelsea manager . Thank you Thomas, for everything. guess antonio conte cursed him with that handshake
What u really don't know is actually Chelsea's form has been really bad since last season, ONLY won 8 home games out of 16,17 home games. On top of that, we are only like what? One and half months into this season and Chelsea already lost 3 out of last 5 in all competition and the worse is Chelsea already lost 5 opening PL games this season. This is not top 4 challenger form, but SACKABLE form
@@johnlau6749 Chelsea didn’t loose 5 games in PL this season. Where are you getting your stats from - won against Everton, draw with Spurs won against Fulham, won against West Ham and only lost to Leeds and Southampton
@@deathstarresident Those stats are just on paper only, U idiot. Chelsea already lost those opening 5 games actually. Chelsea only play well against West Ham. Those opening 5 very poor and deserve to lose. Chelsea lucky got away with those opening 5 league games
Liam Twomey is the most frustrating reporter to listen to. He takes forever to formulate his thoughts in a sentence. His sentences are words spread apart by vast oceans of pauses, lip tongue clicking, there seems to be so much he wants to say but doesn’t because he can’t or he doesn’t know how to articulate his thoughts into quick meaningful phrases. It’s as if he was cognitively walking on chards of linguistic glass. And he keeps looking away and smirking uuuuuurgh… what a waste of Oxygen i feel like i need to speed up his conversations to 3X just to make sense. Idiot!
uhh except the players and owners didn't like him...lol. Chelsea fans has a strange love in for Tuchel...outside of the Champions league ..he was bang average. He wasn't getting within sniffing distance of Pool and City.
Chelsea buying Tuchel's man Aubergine-yang and then firing him reminds me of a contract I had where I was offered a three-month extension and everything very positive and the next week getting fired. I feel for Tuchel.
Show me a manager that can win in spite of the takeover, transfer block, long term injuries to your best CM’s, losing rudiger, and the lukaku situation not to mention poor performances from werner, mount, etc. He was the main thing holding the club together over the past year as far as I can tell.
@@dadndaughteraccount17 Spending 270M pounds on players doesn't mean your team will INSTANTLY be better the minute they step on the pitch, you do know that right? The "glue" still needs to settle. Tuchels tactics were predictable and that was ultimately the reason of the sacking but he wasn't given the time to change the tactics IF he even would've changed them.
@@currymanjunior3603 yes well done I know how football works but regardless the majority of those excuses were ridiculous. Like everyone doesn’t have injuries? Players don’t have dips in form etc. Chelsea’s squad is easily big enough to deal with that
The last time I watched Chelsea play and thought "that was a real Chelsea performance" was the second leg against Real Madrid. Every player gave it their all in that game and I haven't seen anything similar since then. There's a lack of passion at the moment.
Honestly, when you put it that way, then I can sort of see that the sacking isn't actually all that insane, once you've lost the dressing room, that's kinda it, yeah it's unfair to some, but it's just how football is and Tuchel isn't the first casualty of that. Football is more than just tactics, it's about people, humans, everything just seemed so tense between everyone for both the staff and the player's, heck if I was Tuchel, I would've resigned much sooner, there's just no way around the results and the dressing room, once those are gone, so are you.
The Thing is there us a lot of speculation that he has lost the changingroom but there is hardly any proof. And I actually doubt that this is the case. I mean we ar talking about a man who managed psgs changingroom sucessfully. He is probably the only persion in the world who managed to make Neymar work for the defens. (At psg he was sacked because of persional issues with the bosses and not because he lost connection to the players). I think he is just a pain to work with and the new bosses didn‘t like that and it hurt their ego so they fired him. And honestly I think that will have a longterm negative effect for chelsea.
Unimpressed with Boehly and Co so far. Transfer window was totally mishandled, helped destabilize the squad. Got rid of upper management without replacing it. Sloppy work. It did seem like Tuchel had lost the dressing room, and had done so for a while. Given the circumstances at the club, though, he did well and will be missed.
I suspect that the upper management situation is a shift in the structure. Todd Boehly has a background where he owns several American sports clubs (LA Dodgers, LA Lakers, LA Spark, Cloud9). Once he purchased Chelsea and got a look at the structure he probably wanted to change it to something closer if not identical to what has worked for the LA Dodgers- MLB (been in the playoffs every year since 2013, 3 world series appearances and 1 win in the last 7 years) and the LA Lakers (one of the most recognized and valuable teams in the NBA). So there will be new people replacing those lost, but probably with different titles. Honestly, while its not ideal that its taking time to refill those positions, its completely understandable and from the viewpoint of an American who has watched a lot of team turmoil over the last 20 years, its not something to stress over.
@@markvargus6519 It is, of course, a shift in structure. This is common during a change in ownership. The problem is that he hasn't replaced the existing structure. He could barely get players in the door, let alone their top targets. It's been a poor show - so far. It will take time, and it's too early for a verdict, but what we've seen so far isn't promising.
Part of me feels that this just wasn’t going to work and the Chelsea ownership almost did him a favour by sacking him therefore entitling him to a payout
I loved Tuchel at Chelsea. It was a match made in heaven. No one has ever made me feel like we can win trophies as much Tuchel (apart from Mou). I would never have expected to see him leave like this. I wish TT all the best in whatever he does in the future. Us chelsea fans will always be grateful for what he's done.
I feel like Tuchel's personal life tanked his professional. I hope he takes some time for himself and then he'll probably be back in the game soon enough.
Many people are saying that Chelsea regressed in recent months but when you look at the team, it overall just isn’t as good as it was before, even with the reinforcements. Most of their “expensive signings” only came in at the end of the transfer window which means they’ve barely even had a handful of games to get used to the squad, whilst important players like Mendy and Sterling are completely out of form. The midfield has lost Kante to injury which means there’s no real defensive midfield cover, which is why they’ve been forced to play with 5 at the back to compensate. Chelsea also missed out on nearly all of their first choice transfers, which means that the expensive signings they DID get were more out of desperation to plug holes rather than carefully planned and calculated transfers made months in advance. If Tuchel has lost the dressing room then you can’t do much about that, but Tuchel is undoubtedly a world-class manager tactically who’s about as good as Chelsea can really get right now.
Also tbh the signings this summer were clearly made by someone who not really knows what football is about he got players not fitting into his system (same thing last year with lukaku) which likely is why there were problems with the new owners And yeah from december on they had problems but i mean with all the things around the pitch i wouldnt wonder
@@bri1085 considering the starting point is that Tuchel won the UCL with a side that was absolute trash under Lampard in just 2-3 months, then anything less than winning is a regression. And as someone else said, it’s only been a few months not an entire year. When Tuchel won the UCL that was about the peak of that generation of Chelsea players and especially after being hit with the drama of all the Russian sanctions, it was obvious that massive changes would be needed to rebuild a squad full of ageing, mediocre, and underperforming players, but Chelsea weren’t able to make any moves until only a few weeks ago, by which time it was already too late.
@@bri1085 you forget we were top of the league until an injury and covid crisis, a toxic hippo did an interview and the government forced the sale of the club
In US sports, whenever the Coaches boss changes, the Coach usually goes too. The ownership changed, a lot of the management changed, this is normal with American owners
They backed him in the summer spending £255 million. Won UEFA CL in his first season. Top level tactician very detail and precise to how he wants his team to play. Should have been given more time. Dont think he will be out of a job for too long. This looks pretty similar to manu post Fergie. Chelsea on a downward spiral. Graham Potter to replace Tuchel
It's so strange to me that the management didn't think let's try and make it work with Tuchel, let's put a system in place that allows him and the team to flourish. How many other elite managers are available now? If it didn't work after this season then fair enough you part ways. It basically looks like they're looking long-term but haven't really done any planning for what the structure will be behind the manager. I love Potter, who doesn't, but if the owners think he can come in and be incredibly successful I think they're a bit naive. Potter is clearly a brilliant manager, but the structure behind him at Brighton is equally brilliant, they work beautifully well in tandem. At Chelsea, at least at the moment the way it seems, is that it's a shitshow. But who knows, maybe this will be a masterstroke lol
It depends entirely on where his head was at. Sounds like he wasn’t happy with some changes… probably moody, May have decided he’s not enjoying it anymore. Happened with Pochettino, as much as Spurs fans wanted him to stay, I don’t think it would be easy to turn back time as if it never happened. Clean slate is sometimes best (and he’s never going to quit given how much he’d receive for getting sacked).
From what’s been reported, it seems like their working relationship was also a reason why he got sacked. Tuchel preferred a more detached approach while the owners wants a manger who will engage more with them and other departments. I think Boehly wants to establish a long term and stable project so it was important to make sure they get right manager for that structure and I think Potter is perfect. Considering how well run the Dodgers are, I think Boehly will hire the right people and establish a good structure. They’ve only just bought the club and they were in a buffer period where they had to sack members from the old regime who had a different approach to managing a club. It’s been a little hectic and I think they’ve done alright with the signings they’ve made considering the situation. Also worth to mention that potters back room staff is quite important to Brighton’s structure as well,particularly his recruitment analyst, Kyle Mcauley who looks to be following Potter to Chelsea.
Chelsea’s achievements this season in such a short period of time is underrated. They’ve hit the Self-Destruct button after spending a record £272 million and playing only 7 games so far. Now a new manager can come in to find a way to line up their 11 defenders on the pitch this season. Can’t wait to see these defenders score.
The most brain dead sacking in a long time. Yeah sure Chelsea have been regressing since the beginning of the year, but what was he supposed to do? A new owner comes in, who can't give Tuchel any of the signings he needed. Add to that Tuchel needed to act as a director and coach during the summer for the transfers which should never happen. Most of the signings chelsea needed only arrived towards the end of the window and even then they still lack some players. The squad is unbalanced, to the point it will be impressive if they can secure top 4 this season with Arsenal and Spurs improving massively and backing their managers. Not to mention, who are you gonna replace Tuchel with? The only managers better than him are Pep, Klopp, Ancelotti. Other managers who could be available would be a downgrade. Tuchel proved PSG wrong in sacking him after leading that lacking squad to a UCL final, he will do the same with Chelsea no doubt.
@@delirious13440 kounde, de jong, martinez, raphina, and more, didn't get signed in time before they went to other teams, or before the deadline ended.
@@Hamox sure, but no team or manager can expect to get such a perfect window, with every signing they want, and all early in the window. It never works out like that. And then remember, they set the all time 1 window transfer spending record, with 273 million spent. Ridiculous to say he didn't get what he needed. What I do agree is with all that change, it would surely take at least 10-15 games for such an overhauled squad to gel and play well. Not at all fair to judge him before he had a run with this basically new squad.
@@delirious13440 And? None of those players were his preferred targets. He wanted Lewandowski, but had to settle for Aubameyang. He wanted Raphinha, got Sterling. He wanted Kounde, had to settle for Fofana. While Chukwuemenka, Zakaria and Slonina have potential, but are not gonna be starters any time soon. Not to mention Cucurella wasn't a necessary signing, considering Chilwell is pretty damn good already. He desperately wanted de Jong and a world class striker to help balance the team. Aubameyang came way too late, and no good midfielder came in. Now chelsea are stuck with a bunch of players Tuchel scouted, and yet they only gave him 6 games into the season... If you're gonna spend money to bring in players, then you need to give the manager the time he needs to make this new look chelsea team click. You don't just splash cash on players and then sack the manager 5 days after the window ends. Especially not a manager like Tuchel who you simply cannot replace with anyone right now. Honestly, this kind of clown behaviour is something I would expect from Man Utd. Boehly is turning out to be the biggest downgrade any chelsea fan could hope for in ownership
Sean Dyche it is. But seriously, if they had of sacked Tuchel at the start of the season Chelsea could have got Christophe Galtier and Luis Campos. Missed opportunity.
I never felt Tuchel got any partnership upfront working or developed a fluid attack. He was very cautious whenever he adapted the tactics it seemed like he got more and more defensive.
@@NeoSpacian1237 the new owners wanted to give Tuchel a new contract just last month, and then they allowed him to buy players of his liking and then they didn't even give him a month time to integrate those players and sacked him. That seems a pretty rash decision and very bad business by the club. If they had any doubts about him then they should have never backed him or opened contract negotiation talks or let him spend so much money. They should have sacked him before the start of the season.
@@NeoSpacian1237 So now they're expecting the new manager to come in to an unfamiliar team, with plenty of new faces and make them win everything in his first season?
The Lukaku interview seemed to coincide with Chelsea's implosion. My guess is that decisions made from there about what to do about it are what has led to this level of disaffection.
That's a new one. Most of the time you hear managers bemoan the fact they dont have enough say about transfers, not the other way round. But this sacking has been on the cards. He's not been able to solve the chance creation problems that goes beyond the start of this season. And things seems to have gotten worse since last season. If he's a coaching first manager, its kinda damning that he's been unable to get the best out of any of the attackers, Pulisic, Werner, Lukaku, Kai, Ziyech etc.
3 of those players are not good. also i think he was happy with the relationships between him marina and cech in terms of transfers rather than him ‘wanting less control’.
@@ewan7283 3 of those aint good? Didnt he win the fkin Champions League with basically the same attack? Be serious here obv that Tuchel has lost the plots and just like his predecessor Lampard- dude needs to go.
@@ewan7283 Not good? Lukaka is world class, Kai was touted as a once in a generation player, Pulisic captains America, Ziyech was fundamental to Ajax’s success etc etc etc
@@ewan7283 How good do you need them to be to get them to get some chances going regularly? Do Chelsea literally have to sign Haaland and Lewa for someone to score some goals? As much as I like Tuchel, the lack of offensive production has been a coaching problem.
I could see that he wasn't reaching the players. The air just wasn't right at Cobham. Tuchel's body language was different. He never signed up for all of this. Chelsea now would be a monumental job for anyone.
Hey may not have signed up for whatever it is that you're alluding to, but he stuck around for the money. Tuchel is solely responsible for the final outcome.
This man carried the club in its dark time.. And this is how you repay him.. This is such a disappointment and disgrace.. If you wanted to sack him why you gave him his transfer window.. Utter nonsense.. Please appoint him back! ..feel ashamed to follow Chelsea.. IDK now if can I support chelsea
As a Chelsea fan this season is a write off for me so I can enjoy football in peace. It’s either the real underperforms as I expect if they surprise me. Either way, it is what it’s is. Now this long term approach from the owners will be very interesting. It can either go very well or very badly. But I’m watching
It's strange because on the one hand Chelsea have been on the decline for a while now but it feels sudden because of how much money they've spent this summer. I can't say I'm surprised but at the same time I'm not sure if it was the best move sacking him at this time
Terrible decision by the Yanks. Signing players the coach didn't ask for and then sacking him 6 games after spending nearly 300million. Can see the new owners turning Chelsea into a circus.
@@NeoSpacian1237 But who was choosing these players? Nobody. Its a complete shitshow , who would a load of cbs , no goalkeeper, no midfield, and a washed auba ..terrible ownership
What I find odd with Chelsea is if they think they're gonna fix this then they actually need to give the next manager time which would be very anti Chelsea. It is also odd from the board who gave the manager £250m to spend. So a new manager comes in with players he may not necessarily want.
Theres only a few players that a manager wouldn't want in any circumstances, jorginho because he's too slow for the PL, Havertz because he (weirdly) has an outdated position that doesn't fly anymore. Other than that, we have a very talented team, with good depth and a very strong academy including new young signings. It's still a very attractive proposition
Yes giving a manager time would be anti Chelsea but Todd Boehly is not Abramowitch so some things are destined to change. Todd Boehly has been working with the LA Dodgers manager Dave Roberts since 2016 and reports say he wants something similar at Chelsea. If I had to guess I´d say the next Chelsea manager will be here for a while, even if that means that there will be a season where Chelsea plays in the conference league.
Not surprising when you see how tough it’s going to be to achieve top 4 this season with a resurgent United Arsenal and Tottenham. We were playing DREADFUL football. Couldn’t attack or defend at all. It’s brutal for sure, but something must’ve happened to trigger this before the CL game. Also shout out to JJ. Putting out a video before taking a shower.
I agree. The football we’ve been playing has been boring since the Real Madrid game. I see why attackers don’t want to play for Tuchel. It almost seems like the attacking coaches we have are poor or average at best.
Tuchel has always been clear that Chelsea was not at the level of Liverpool and Man City and had a ways to go. Even after winning the Champions League, Tuchel admitted these teams were still better and Chelsea had to prove themselves. Last year we had a lot of injuries which did not help and extra noise with Lukaku. This year was going to be an interesting one, surprised they did not let Tuchel keep on but there is so much as outsiders we must not know.
I'm not saying it's justified but if you've watched ANY Chelsea matches this season you'd notice that our attack is completely toothless. Everything is extremely predictable and we keep possession uselessly by passing around an octagon for 90 minutes. The only player with any capacity to create anything is Reece James. Yesterday's CL match was the most infuriated I have ever been watching a Chelsea match through many years of supporting
Chelsea required their arch cross town rivals do them a favor in order to finish 4th in 2021, let's not get it twisted. Chelsea were, are and will be a cup competition team.
Shouldn’t have been sacked man, Tuchel stuck with the club strongly through sanctions and even while going through a divorce, yet a poor run of form for a few games and he’s gone. Graham Potter or whoever comes in will definitely have a task on their hands.
Run of poor games started since last season So he was with the club during the temporary sanctions is the excuse for a dreadful squad that has no creativity, no idea on how to put the ball in the back of the net n forgotten how to keep a clean sheet Maybe try not to be too sentimental n attached to any manager. A manager is supposed to improve the team but it keeps getting worse under him
If potter comes in he will need time, its not like everyone is expecting potter to win us the premier league in his first season. So if they are going to give potter time at the club why wouldnt they give more time to TT
You’re telling me if Chelsea had beaten Zagreb 7-0 they would have sacked TT anyway? Nah, this was a decision made off the back of a 1-0 defeat which will probably be reversed in the 2nd leg anyway.
@@glowwurm9365 No you're right in that we don't say 2nd leg in the league, it's home and away but his point still stands that we play them again. You're being facetious, and if so allow me to be aswell. We play 19 other teams 2 times. So there's 19 '2nd legs' which is 38 games.
I don’t know if anyone else noticed this, but Chelsea has been a different team since they met Juventus for the first time. Though they won the second leg, but after the first leg, everything just went sideways, Tactical wise. And that match also the first game Lukaku starting to go downhill. I think that game affected Tuchel so much
Losing the dressing room leads to the inevitable sacking of managers. It's been that way for a long time. On one hand Tuchel deserves more time to get out of the rut Chelsea is in however on the other hand it's not easy to do that when you lose the players.
Tuchel getting sacked is just worse for the Prem. Tired of these owners who don't know anything about football just ego tripping and taking complete control. Know theyre going for Potter who we can guarantee the owner doesn't know anything about or has just seen the hype via social media. Even if the form was bad Im sure Chelsea fans loved him still. He won a UCL and Worlds Best Coach and was then sacked after 6 games sitting a point above Liverpool. The owner also forced so many overpriced signings on him which definitely weren't Tuchel backed 100%.
It's so good you talk about those red flags around. Not saying Tuchel wasnt great for Chelsea. Just saying that some tones in his speech and some gestures on the touch line, wich are the things i can actually remember since months, made me felt little uncomfortable. Imagine how the one who has been telled off at the eyes of millions felt when Tuchel, for example did. That creates lot of stress and tension between coach and players. Hope this is the right decission. The best for Tuchel and very welcome Potter.
List of reasons why Chelsea were right to sack Tuchel so early in the season: End of list. All jokes aside though, some are forgetting Chelsea narrowly finished 3rd and had Arsenal and Spurs not had bottle genes, they were the 5th best side since the turn of the year.
Tuchel has been good for Chelsea but all the players have regressed except Jorginho and Silva who are protected by the system We played positional style play but we were to horizontal in the final third of attack. The rotational play was terrible and it is seemed like the attackers didn’t know what to do in the final third.
Arteta was given basically 4 windows to rebuild his squad and get them all playing with total commitment to his new system. The final product so far is way better than when he started, though obviously they still have a ways to go. Klopp got similar patience. Arteta could easily been sacked after the 0-3 start last season but the patience was rewarded. Certainly you need 10/15 games to get 273 million worth of new players adjusted and comfortable with a new system?
The attackers being out of favour and feeling unwanted comes on the back of their poor performances. To use that as a stick to beat TT is ridiculously unfair
That was not always the case. Even when those same unnamed forwards played well, they got dropped and then brought back on the field out of position as Wing back. Pulisic is a great example. He was dropped from the starting 11 after playing well and scoring goals. When dropped from the 11, Tuchel said he understand it's not fair and that other players deserve to play too. Then he started playing Pulisic out of position and his performance dropped. Even called Pulisic a super sub when doing well off the bench.
If every single attacker is either unhappy, underperforming, or looking woeful considering where these attackers came from and how much they cost, then something greater is the problem. Tuchel has some fault for the issue with the attack.
Happy trails, Tommy Too Cool. If I were a Chelsea supporter I'd be gutted they didn't try and make it work. As an Arsenal supporter, I'm intrigued by the rash decision making and lack of consistency over at Chelsea.
Chelsea fan here. Yes, the common feeling is disappointment . I have to admit that I was fuming over the way the team performed against Dinamo, but I alway saw TT as our long term coach. I think there was something else going on behind the scenes. Maybe, the players were performing so bad because they wanted him out. Or new owner were just looking for an excuse to bring their own new coach.
For me it was a big worry all the way back in September of last year. They had Lukaku playing well, scoring goals, and they were winning every week. Then Man City went to Stamford Bridge, and while the final score was only 0-1, Man City dominated every aspect of the game and should have had more. At full time it looked like a big reality check for Chelsea and honestly never saw Chelsea get back to any kind of consistency after that day.
Sooo true. I have constantly been seeing us as a shaky team tbh and I thought the entire champions league run was a stroke of players wanting to impress a new manager/a new big name manager/just sheer tactical genius/quite a bit of luck. When we played the second leg against Real, Benzema was so close to tying up the draw himself if not for a few close misses. The final was a Rudiger masterclass with tons of blocks, it was great to watch at the time but it should have been clear to see this was not how we were going to play week in week out. After that our attack has consisted of wonder goals and a few penalties, all of this resulted in low scoring ties and us slightly being edged out in a few games. The man city game was a shame to see really as I think we actually were not nearly as bad as we have been in recent months, however that does not mean the game was not horrendous. The loss to Juventus was spectacularly bad just after that as well. From then on despite not losing there were some worrying performances like (Zenit 3 - 3 Chelsea) (Everton 1 - 1 Chelsea) (Wolves 0 - 0 Chelsea) and even some worrying looking wins like (Chelsea 3 - 2 Leeds) and (Chelsea 2 - 1 Watford). Over reliance on players who really dont provide enough to the team or just players who dont even want to be here like Jorginho, Azpi, ZIyech and even Lukaku made our team feel so stale with no progress forward from our champions league winning team, which was by no means a complete team. All of this is really unfortunate as most of us dont know what is happening behind the scenes, but still I would have loved him here for at least another season to turn things around for himself and the team.
This is what people seem to overlook. I can't blame them though because the effects of the sanctions, lukaku's interview and Major injuries (e.g. Reece and Chilly) seem to have masked this. It was easier to blame the sanctions etc than it was to admit that Chelsea were regressing.
That game was very early tho. We were top in November and on a high after beating Juve. I think that’s false to point to that. Tuchel in that game was even admitted he set up the team incorrectly.
Refs again at play. If they had beaten Spurs ? They played well in that game and got cheated. Might have kicked on. Sacking him correct and that squad can do really well. He will get lots of cash and a holiday. Its a win win.
Let's be honest, Boehly spend 300 mill on what Tuchel wanted but game after game, Tuchel blamed the players & even players he has just bought. That's like being a sugar daddy simp to some girl & she complains about the gifts she asked you to buy. It's a business, you should keep your mouth shut for a wwhile until players settle down... yet, he kept blaming the players. He kept making excuses, very unprofessional. Boehly would be like "you made me spend 300 mill & now you're saying they're bad players?"
Remembering the time he had at my club (Dortmund) and the way it went down in the end, his behavior, I’m confused why Chelsea fans aren’t glad he’s gone. Phlegmatic performances and erratic behavior off the pitch, really doesn’t scream world class coach to me?
I like JJ a lot, but here he was massively unhelpful. The correspondent gave lucid and concrete explanations, with JJ constantly reverting to abstract general nonsense. Regarding the main point: tifo could make a piece on how, statistically, changing the manager influences a top team. It seems to me that it's generally negative: it's dangerously likely that Chelsea will have a 5 year downhill from here.
What people don't seems to understand is that Boehly is a man of his words. He said he gave Tuchel full control of transfer, done. And Chelsea got great players because Tuchel were still there. But at the same time with how things went The board and Boehly doesn't see Tuchel as future since Tuchel doesn't really rate young players for example he doesn't rate Broja and bought Auba, and don't have plan for Gilmour in his team. Also the young players that just came haven't got opportunity. While the new board vision is to build for the long future and in this youngsters.
Chelsea hasn't been doing well for awhile now so I understand why they would sack Tuchel. Excited to see what a new coach can do to unlock all the talent at Chelsea
Pochettino would be a terrible signing for Chelsea. He was a huge flop in PSG and in general not a guy you would comfortably say will produce trophies. Graham Potter or even Brendan Rogers would be better even though they also isnt too familiar with winning titles. Zidane could very well be their best option if they manage to land him.
Not true to say that potter hasn't won anything. He won the 4th tier, 3rd tier and then gained promotion from the 2nd tier of Swedish football. He then won the cup a couple of years later
It seems to be an unpopular opinion, but I think Chelsea made the right longterm choice. Tuchel's methods clearly have some serious merit (two UEFA finals don't happen by accident). However a dropoff in performances, player discord, and tactical rigidity seem to be hallmarks of Tuchel's management. I think his approach has a short shelf-life. I'm slightly surprised that Chelsea have been quite so ruthless, but I was skeptical that Chelsea would do better than 6th if Tuchel saw out the season.
- If they sacked him because of Dinamo, that is stupid. Everyone can lose in the UCL, Real lost to Sherif and won the tournament after that. - If they sacked him because the team was going down since the later half of the last season and was mismanaged, why wait for the summer to be gone? Was it because Boehly went to the club to late in the summer? - Is it because Tuchel and the new boss don't get along? That I can understand, Tuchel was fired in Dortmund after he won the cup there. But how about instead of getting rid of Tuchel, hire a new sports director or something? Tuchel would be happier, Boehly wouldn't have to deal with him, everything is fine. I'm not saying Tuchel is perfect, but it is just odd.
the way the board treats their managers, be it past or present, I hope this club plunge into abyss. someone needs to fill the spots outside the top 4 so why not Chelsea
Liam there at the end really overthinking Graham Potter's potential reluctance there. This is a massive opportunity at a well funded, established CL club. Potter hasn't solidified his status as an elite coach yet, one bad season at Brighton and he sets himself back maybe 5-10 years for another chance to step up to this level again. He'd have to step up to a mid sized Europa type club, hope everything goes perfect for a few years, then have to wait again for one of the elite clubs to have an opening, and hope they dont take a sexy name manager over him. If he doesn't take this chance right here right now for the reasons you stated, thats grounds for a sectioning.
Why would he go? Chelsea management clearly poor at recruitment and will fire him at the first sign of trouble. Let him stay at Brighton then he can move on to say arsenal or Liverpool
Disagree. Brighton are here to stay. They’re solidified premier league club. Well run and have a structure in place. You wont find many clubs like that. It’s a big risk. You got an owner who has been scattershot ever since he stepped into the door, doesn’t even have a DOF in place, doesn’t have real football people to liaise with. The performances on the pitch are beyond the manager.
As a Chelsea fan I believe that before any new manager is appointed a sporting director needs to be hired. Then they can guide the club in the right direction so we can properly build something.
It was obvious that they were regressing since around January. But I think he deserved a chance for reaction
Regressing because of club sanctions among other things like lukaku and injuries to key players
It looked to me in the Zagreb game like the Tuchel had lost the locker room. No offense to the Croatian minnows, but they are among the 3 worst teams in the competition. Pitch was fine, and Chelsea even got Kovacic back. Chelsea should have won that game confortably even after the early set back goal. But Chelsea looked devoid of ideas and confidence going forward.
@@Bigcrooks Lukaku was Tuchel
They really needed to get 3 more centerbacks and another left back or two in the transfer window
@@coffeyallday don't forget 3 DMs and a right back
I'm not a Chelsea FC fan, this sack was completely out of the blue for me. Kinda sad to see. Tuchel should've been given until January at the very least.
Tuchel is Out of the blue now
For me he should've got the end of the season at least.
Really? He's been underwhelming in many matches
@@TheThreatenedSwan They won the Champions league! How can you describe that as underwhelming? I would say they massively overachieved.
@@r4h4al exactly! winning the UCL should've given him a good amount of leeway at the club
When I confront one of my friend who supported Chelsea, he was no longer surprised by this news. That's how bad Chelsea treated their managers in the past
And yet they always win
Yeah true, Chelsea have 0 identity because of how they treat their managers and players
Deserved sacking
I have been a Chelsea fan for 16 years. Never before have I gone weak at the knees at a manager sack. This guy deserved more time. Can't put the whole blame on the manager for shambolic form of his very average players
Its all about team's performance
gonna really miss Tuchel. Gave us UEFA Champions League and carried activities of the team with extreme professionalism during his spell as Chelsea manager . Thank you Thomas, for everything. guess antonio conte cursed him with that handshake
What u really don't know is actually Chelsea's form has been really bad since last season, ONLY won 8 home games out of 16,17 home games. On top of that, we are only like what? One and half months into this season and Chelsea already lost 3 out of last 5 in all competition and the worse is Chelsea already lost 5 opening PL games this season. This is not top 4 challenger form, but SACKABLE form
He was the aggressor with that hand shake
@@johnlau6749 Chelsea didn’t loose 5 games in PL this season. Where are you getting your stats from - won against Everton, draw with Spurs won against Fulham, won against West Ham and only lost to Leeds and Southampton
@@deathstarresident Those stats are just on paper only, U idiot. Chelsea already lost those opening 5 games actually. Chelsea only play well against West Ham. Those opening 5 very poor and deserve to lose. Chelsea lucky got away with those opening 5 league games
@@johnlau6749 Its 3 out 7 in all comps. W3 D1 L3 get your facts right before telling us what we dont know.
He was one of the likeable managers that we had in Chelsea and he stuck with us in dark times. Truly going to miss him as Chelsea fan :(
Liam Twomey is the most frustrating reporter to listen to. He takes forever to formulate his thoughts in a sentence. His sentences are words spread apart by vast oceans of pauses, lip tongue clicking, there seems to be so much he wants to say but doesn’t because he can’t or he doesn’t know how to articulate his thoughts into quick meaningful phrases. It’s as if he was cognitively walking on chards of linguistic glass. And he keeps looking away and smirking uuuuuurgh… what a waste of Oxygen i feel like i need to speed up his conversations to 3X just to make sense. Idiot!
uhh except the players and owners didn't like him...lol. Chelsea fans has a strange love in for Tuchel...outside of the Champions league ..he was bang average. He wasn't getting within sniffing distance of Pool and City.
@@Senaleb accept we have had better results than loserpool so thats a bs statement
@@russellherbaugh8334 You were like 20 points off City and Pool last year and this year you look trash bro.
@@Senaleb We could argue that SOME players didnt like him or new owners didnt but to say that we as fans are overreacting is understatement
Should never have been sacked - disgusted as a chelsea fan....gave us so much at a terrible time for our club and this is how he gets treated
He sucks
I'm baffled why this soon after the big transfer window they had...
but hes not performed spite being backed, he was always going to be found out
I don't think he's had the time to be judged. His first choice forward get to play 59 mins under him.....
@@MaxPower162 his transfer window alone is worthy of sacking lol
Chelsea buying Tuchel's man Aubergine-yang and then firing him reminds me of a contract I had where I was offered a three-month extension and everything very positive and the next week getting fired. I feel for Tuchel.
Sad
They checked up on your past. It happens
This man is ruthless in how fast he puts out a quality video discussing the days hot topic.
Show me a manager that can win in spite of the takeover, transfer block, long term injuries to your best CM’s, losing rudiger, and the lukaku situation not to mention poor performances from werner, mount, etc. He was the main thing holding the club together over the past year as far as I can tell.
Give over, they spent £270m this window and have an insane squad. No excuses
@@dadndaughteraccount17 it's not fifa where players fit in straight away. It takes time to learn tactics and integrate yourself into a team.
@@dadndaughteraccount17 Spending 270M pounds on players doesn't mean your team will INSTANTLY be better the minute they step on the pitch, you do know that right? The "glue" still needs to settle. Tuchels tactics were predictable and that was ultimately the reason of the sacking but he wasn't given the time to change the tactics IF he even would've changed them.
@@currymanjunior3603 yes well done I know how football works but regardless the majority of those excuses were ridiculous. Like everyone doesn’t have injuries? Players don’t have dips in form etc. Chelsea’s squad is easily big enough to deal with that
@@paulpoldma20 yes I know, I don’t even agree with the sacking I just think the excuses in OPs comment are nonsense
Finally someone who gets it! As much as we love Tuchel, he wasn’t gonna escape the sack. I saw it almost towards the end of last season coming,
The last time I watched Chelsea play and thought "that was a real Chelsea performance" was the second leg against Real Madrid. Every player gave it their all in that game and I haven't seen anything similar since then. There's a lack of passion at the moment.
True
So the last time you thought Chelsea played like themselves, they got knocked out 😂
@@elliotcowley8542 in a fighting manner, don’t twist the narrative
@@daniyalshakir6093 lost the fight though
@@elliotcowley8542 because they didn't play like that in the first leg
Honestly, when you put it that way, then I can sort of see that the sacking isn't actually all that insane, once you've lost the dressing room, that's kinda it, yeah it's unfair to some, but it's just how football is and Tuchel isn't the first casualty of that. Football is more than just tactics, it's about people, humans, everything just seemed so tense between everyone for both the staff and the player's, heck if I was Tuchel, I would've resigned much sooner, there's just no way around the results and the dressing room, once those are gone, so are you.
its pathetic that player-power grew so big at this club
probably would not leave if the payout for contract severance was good
The Thing is there us a lot of speculation that he has lost the changingroom but there is hardly any proof. And I actually doubt that this is the case. I mean we ar talking about a man who managed psgs changingroom sucessfully. He is probably the only persion in the world who managed to make Neymar work for the defens. (At psg he was sacked because of persional issues with the bosses and not because he lost connection to the players). I think he is just a pain to work with and the new bosses didn‘t like that and it hurt their ego so they fired him. And honestly I think that will have a longterm negative effect for chelsea.
The quality of the coverage on this channel is so much better than on mainstream media.
Unimpressed with Boehly and Co so far. Transfer window was totally mishandled, helped destabilize the squad. Got rid of upper management without replacing it. Sloppy work.
It did seem like Tuchel had lost the dressing room, and had done so for a while. Given the circumstances at the club, though, he did well and will be missed.
I suspect that the upper management situation is a shift in the structure. Todd Boehly has a background where he owns several American sports clubs (LA Dodgers, LA Lakers, LA Spark, Cloud9). Once he purchased Chelsea and got a look at the structure he probably wanted to change it to something closer if not identical to what has worked for the LA Dodgers- MLB (been in the playoffs every year since 2013, 3 world series appearances and 1 win in the last 7 years) and the LA Lakers (one of the most recognized and valuable teams in the NBA).
So there will be new people replacing those lost, but probably with different titles. Honestly, while its not ideal that its taking time to refill those positions, its completely understandable and from the viewpoint of an American who has watched a lot of team turmoil over the last 20 years, its not something to stress over.
@@markvargus6519 daaam didn’t know Todd and cloud 9 were linked that’s dope lol
@@markvargus6519 Well put and informative.
Couldn't have say it better. Boehly has underestimate football.
@@markvargus6519 It is, of course, a shift in structure. This is common during a change in ownership. The problem is that he hasn't replaced the existing structure. He could barely get players in the door, let alone their top targets. It's been a poor show - so far.
It will take time, and it's too early for a verdict, but what we've seen so far isn't promising.
Part of me feels that this just wasn’t going to work and the Chelsea ownership almost did him a favour by sacking him therefore entitling him to a payout
Only had 9 months left, but it’s still probably about 6/7 million
I loved Tuchel at Chelsea. It was a match made in heaven. No one has ever made me feel like we can win trophies as much Tuchel (apart from Mou). I would never have expected to see him leave like this. I wish TT all the best in whatever he does in the future. Us chelsea fans will always be grateful for what he's done.
I feel like Tuchel's personal life tanked his professional. I hope he takes some time for himself and then he'll probably be back in the game soon enough.
Many people are saying that Chelsea regressed in recent months but when you look at the team, it overall just isn’t as good as it was before, even with the reinforcements. Most of their “expensive signings” only came in at the end of the transfer window which means they’ve barely even had a handful of games to get used to the squad, whilst important players like Mendy and Sterling are completely out of form. The midfield has lost Kante to injury which means there’s no real defensive midfield cover, which is why they’ve been forced to play with 5 at the back to compensate. Chelsea also missed out on nearly all of their first choice transfers, which means that the expensive signings they DID get were more out of desperation to plug holes rather than carefully planned and calculated transfers made months in advance. If Tuchel has lost the dressing room then you can’t do much about that, but Tuchel is undoubtedly a world-class manager tactically who’s about as good as Chelsea can really get right now.
Also tbh the signings this summer were clearly made by someone who not really knows what football is about he got players not fitting into his system (same thing last year with lukaku) which likely is why there were problems with the new owners
And yeah from december on they had problems but i mean with all the things around the pitch i wouldnt wonder
The regression hasn't been about just this season, it's been the whole year
@@bri1085 if you minus the sanction drama ,it just only been a few months ffs .
@@bri1085 considering the starting point is that Tuchel won the UCL with a side that was absolute trash under Lampard in just 2-3 months, then anything less than winning is a regression. And as someone else said, it’s only been a few months not an entire year. When Tuchel won the UCL that was about the peak of that generation of Chelsea players and especially after being hit with the drama of all the Russian sanctions, it was obvious that massive changes would be needed to rebuild a squad full of ageing, mediocre, and underperforming players, but Chelsea weren’t able to make any moves until only a few weeks ago, by which time it was already too late.
@@bri1085 you forget we were top of the league until an injury and covid crisis, a toxic hippo did an interview and the government forced the sale of the club
In US sports, whenever the Coaches boss changes, the Coach usually goes too. The ownership changed, a lot of the management changed, this is normal with American owners
4-4-3 bigbrain owners.
The most bonkers decision of the last couple of years in football
Hardly, everyone could see it coming maybe not this early, but by halfway through of the season.
Ok racist.
Glazer's type of decision Lmao
@@bri1085 Nah it is definitely very bonkers and "yolo" type of sacking since Chelsea spent alot of money on TUCHELS ideal players!
@@bri1085 hardly? You'd struggle to find anyone who isn't shocked by this
They backed him in the summer spending £255 million. Won UEFA CL in his first season. Top level tactician very detail and precise to how he wants his team to play. Should have been given more time. Dont think he will be out of a job for too long. This looks pretty similar to manu post Fergie. Chelsea on a downward spiral. Graham Potter to replace Tuchel
United doesnt sack this fast... mourinho had 3 years, ole had 3 years, lvg had like 2 years.
@@beepbeep5153 how is Man U brought up in every comment 💀
@@l3rady073 OP mentioned manu in his comment?
@@beepbeep5153 in terms of being in demise as a club
It's so strange to me that the management didn't think let's try and make it work with Tuchel, let's put a system in place that allows him and the team to flourish. How many other elite managers are available now? If it didn't work after this season then fair enough you part ways. It basically looks like they're looking long-term but haven't really done any planning for what the structure will be behind the manager. I love Potter, who doesn't, but if the owners think he can come in and be incredibly successful I think they're a bit naive. Potter is clearly a brilliant manager, but the structure behind him at Brighton is equally brilliant, they work beautifully well in tandem. At Chelsea, at least at the moment the way it seems, is that it's a shitshow. But who knows, maybe this will be a masterstroke lol
Spot on.
The players want an easier life so they went to the new cheapskate owners and stabbed Tuchel in the back. Now watch Chelsea nosedive out the PL
Don't see any reason why Potter would want the job.
It depends entirely on where his head was at. Sounds like he wasn’t happy with some changes… probably moody, May have decided he’s not enjoying it anymore. Happened with Pochettino, as much as Spurs fans wanted him to stay, I don’t think it would be easy to turn back time as if it never happened.
Clean slate is sometimes best (and he’s never going to quit given how much he’d receive for getting sacked).
From what’s been reported, it seems like their working relationship was also a reason why he got sacked. Tuchel preferred a more detached approach while the owners wants a manger who will engage more with them and other departments. I think Boehly wants to establish a long term and stable project so it was important to make sure they get right manager for that structure and I think Potter is perfect.
Considering how well run the Dodgers are, I think Boehly will hire the right people and establish a good structure.
They’ve only just bought the club and they were in a buffer period where they had to sack members from the old regime who had a different approach to managing a club. It’s been a little hectic and I think they’ve done alright with the signings they’ve made considering the situation.
Also worth to mention that potters back room staff is quite important to Brighton’s structure as well,particularly his recruitment analyst, Kyle Mcauley who looks to be following Potter to Chelsea.
praying that potter doesn’t go, in the long term it would serve him so much better to stay at brighton
Yeah they would just sack him, and a club capable of destroying big clubs will be gone.
Its because he messed with the godfather, Antonio Conte Soprano. Never mess with Tonio Soprano.
What did he say about him??
Oh shut up
Conte himself got sacked by Chelski once. Remember that 😂
@@kly826 look up their "handshake" lol
I think the problem is that he won the champions league- the last manager to do that was also sacked shortly after- big mistake!
Chelsea’s achievements this season in such a short period of time is underrated. They’ve hit the Self-Destruct button after spending a record £272 million and playing only 7 games so far. Now a new manager can come in to find a way to line up their 11 defenders on the pitch this season. Can’t wait to see these defenders score.
Scoring defenders, that'll be good for fpl ; )
@@saucynugget9060 they'll bang in strikes from thirty yards on regularity
@Smoke he's a terrorist
The most brain dead sacking in a long time. Yeah sure Chelsea have been regressing since the beginning of the year, but what was he supposed to do? A new owner comes in, who can't give Tuchel any of the signings he needed. Add to that Tuchel needed to act as a director and coach during the summer for the transfers which should never happen.
Most of the signings chelsea needed only arrived towards the end of the window and even then they still lack some players. The squad is unbalanced, to the point it will be impressive if they can secure top 4 this season with Arsenal and Spurs improving massively and backing their managers.
Not to mention, who are you gonna replace Tuchel with? The only managers better than him are Pep, Klopp, Ancelotti. Other managers who could be available would be a downgrade.
Tuchel proved PSG wrong in sacking him after leading that lacking squad to a UCL final, he will do the same with Chelsea no doubt.
Cant give him the signings he needed??? He got Aubameyang, Sterling, Koulibaly, Fofana, Cucurella, Zakaria, Chukwuemeka, and Slonina in one window.
@@delirious13440 kounde, de jong, martinez, raphina, and more, didn't get signed in time before they went to other teams, or before the deadline ended.
@@Hamox sure, but no team or manager can expect to get such a perfect window, with every signing they want, and all early in the window. It never works out like that. And then remember, they set the all time 1 window transfer spending record, with 273 million spent. Ridiculous to say he didn't get what he needed. What I do agree is with all that change, it would surely take at least 10-15 games for such an overhauled squad to gel and play well. Not at all fair to judge him before he had a run with this basically new squad.
@@delirious13440 And? None of those players were his preferred targets. He wanted Lewandowski, but had to settle for Aubameyang. He wanted Raphinha, got Sterling. He wanted Kounde, had to settle for Fofana. While Chukwuemenka, Zakaria and Slonina have potential, but are not gonna be starters any time soon. Not to mention Cucurella wasn't a necessary signing, considering Chilwell is pretty damn good already. He desperately wanted de Jong and a world class striker to help balance the team. Aubameyang came way too late, and no good midfielder came in.
Now chelsea are stuck with a bunch of players Tuchel scouted, and yet they only gave him 6 games into the season... If you're gonna spend money to bring in players, then you need to give the manager the time he needs to make this new look chelsea team click. You don't just splash cash on players and then sack the manager 5 days after the window ends. Especially not a manager like Tuchel who you simply cannot replace with anyone right now.
Honestly, this kind of clown behaviour is something I would expect from Man Utd. Boehly is turning out to be the biggest downgrade any chelsea fan could hope for in ownership
one of the worst decision alongside barcelona selling eto'o to inter milan
Sean Dyche it is. But seriously, if they had of sacked Tuchel at the start of the season Chelsea could have got Christophe Galtier and Luis Campos. Missed opportunity.
I never felt Tuchel got any partnership upfront working or developed a fluid attack. He was very cautious whenever he adapted the tactics it seemed like he got more and more defensive.
He preferred a 0-0 to a 4-3 win, that's the kind of bore he is.
TT was chelseas best manager for a while they wont replace him easily
When one asks "is that true"
and someone replies "that's what we're being told" it leaves a lot to be desired.
It is the heritage of Chelsea, that's why.
Sacking him at this point in the season after allowing him to spend £250m the past weeks is mental!
It’s not mental, this situation can clearly turn really bad quick, it’s happened before. The new owners will not let that happen they are here to win
@@NeoSpacian1237 the new owners wanted to give Tuchel a new contract just last month, and then they allowed him to buy players of his liking and then they didn't even give him a month time to integrate those players and sacked him. That seems a pretty rash decision and very bad business by the club. If they had any doubts about him then they should have never backed him or opened contract negotiation talks or let him spend so much money. They should have sacked him before the start of the season.
@@vanlandings7466 sometimes you don't need to wait to know things aren't going to work
@@NeoSpacian1237 So now they're expecting the new manager to come in to an unfamiliar team, with plenty of new faces and make them win everything in his first season?
@@vanlandings7466 You talk like only TT had a say in those transfers, those are transfers for the club they just happen to fit with TT
Seeing the immense growth of the IRL channel and being slightly sad it was football's best not so kept secret
The Lukaku interview seemed to coincide with Chelsea's implosion. My guess is that decisions made from there about what to do about it are what has led to this level of disaffection.
Sorry for the run on sentence y'all, this is why you don't wake and bake
So who's to blame?
@@brothermalcolm maybe the wake but usually the bake
Its because Todd Boehly is a Rory Jennings subscriber
I hope so, lamps in
That's a new one. Most of the time you hear managers bemoan the fact they dont have enough say about transfers, not the other way round. But this sacking has been on the cards. He's not been able to solve the chance creation problems that goes beyond the start of this season. And things seems to have gotten worse since last season. If he's a coaching first manager, its kinda damning that he's been unable to get the best out of any of the attackers, Pulisic, Werner, Lukaku, Kai, Ziyech etc.
3 of those players are not good. also i think he was happy with the relationships between him marina and cech in terms of transfers rather than him ‘wanting less control’.
@@ewan7283 3 of those aint good? Didnt he win the fkin Champions League with basically the same attack? Be serious here obv that Tuchel has lost the plots and just like his predecessor Lampard- dude needs to go.
@@ewan7283 Not good? Lukaka is world class, Kai was touted as a once in a generation player, Pulisic captains America, Ziyech was fundamental to Ajax’s success etc etc etc
@@ewan7283 How good do you need them to be to get them to get some chances going regularly? Do Chelsea literally have to sign Haaland and Lewa for someone to score some goals? As much as I like Tuchel, the lack of offensive production has been a coaching problem.
Well, he didn't get any those players. The scouting team was a huge deal. She left and was the best in the business. When they left, so did.
I could see that he wasn't reaching the players. The air just wasn't right at Cobham. Tuchel's body language was different. He never signed up for all of this. Chelsea now would be a monumental job for anyone.
Hey may not have signed up for whatever it is that you're alluding to, but he stuck around for the money. Tuchel is solely responsible for the final outcome.
This man carried the club in its dark time.. And this is how you repay him.. This is such a disappointment and disgrace.. If you wanted to sack him why you gave him his transfer window.. Utter nonsense.. Please appoint him back! ..feel ashamed to follow Chelsea.. IDK now if can I support chelsea
As a Chelsea fan this season is a write off for me so I can enjoy football in peace. It’s either the real underperforms as I expect if they surprise me. Either way, it is what it’s is. Now this long term approach from the owners will be very interesting. It can either go very well or very badly. But I’m watching
Damn!! I didn't see this coming, at least not this soon...
It's strange because on the one hand Chelsea have been on the decline for a while now but it feels sudden because of how much money they've spent this summer. I can't say I'm surprised but at the same time I'm not sure if it was the best move sacking him at this time
If I imagine myself as the owner, I would be content with sacking. If I were a fan, I would be furious.
Jolly Good reporting from my favourite group of Newsman
Terrible decision by the Yanks. Signing players the coach didn't ask for and then sacking him 6 games after spending nearly 300million.
Can see the new owners turning Chelsea into a circus.
Or just maybe, they have other plans, and TT out was something they already had anticipated
@@NeoSpacian1237 But who was choosing these players? Nobody. Its a complete shitshow , who would a load of cbs , no goalkeeper, no midfield, and a washed auba ..terrible ownership
What I find odd with Chelsea is if they think they're gonna fix this then they actually need to give the next manager time which would be very anti Chelsea.
It is also odd from the board who gave the manager £250m to spend. So a new manager comes in with players he may not necessarily want.
Theres only a few players that a manager wouldn't want in any circumstances, jorginho because he's too slow for the PL, Havertz because he (weirdly) has an outdated position that doesn't fly anymore. Other than that, we have a very talented team, with good depth and a very strong academy including new young signings. It's still a very attractive proposition
Yes giving a manager time would be anti Chelsea but Todd Boehly is not Abramowitch so some things are destined to change. Todd Boehly has been working with the LA Dodgers manager Dave Roberts since 2016 and reports say he wants something similar at Chelsea.
If I had to guess I´d say the next Chelsea manager will be here for a while, even if that means that there will be a season where Chelsea plays in the conference league.
Not surprising when you see how tough it’s going to be to achieve top 4 this season with a resurgent United Arsenal and Tottenham. We were playing DREADFUL football. Couldn’t attack or defend at all. It’s brutal for sure, but something must’ve happened to trigger this before the CL game.
Also shout out to JJ. Putting out a video before taking a shower.
Finally someone with common sense, everyone in the comment section is throating TT
I agree. The football we’ve been playing has been boring since the Real Madrid game. I see why attackers don’t want to play for Tuchel. It almost seems like the attacking coaches we have are poor or average at best.
Clearly fell out with Boehly after the match or been in dispute. Owners heavily backed him planning for a full season with Tuchel
Tuchel has always been clear that Chelsea was not at the level of Liverpool and Man City and had a ways to go. Even after winning the Champions League, Tuchel admitted these teams were still better and Chelsea had to prove themselves. Last year we had a lot of injuries which did not help and extra noise with Lukaku. This year was going to be an interesting one, surprised they did not let Tuchel keep on but there is so much as outsiders we must not know.
I'm not saying it's justified but if you've watched ANY Chelsea matches this season you'd notice that our attack is completely toothless. Everything is extremely predictable and we keep possession uselessly by passing around an octagon for 90 minutes. The only player with any capacity to create anything is Reece James. Yesterday's CL match was the most infuriated I have ever been watching a Chelsea match through many years of supporting
JJ did an analysis on Arsenal's last season start. He described their possesion play as a 'never ending doughnut of sadness'.
Seems applicable
Awesome analysis, Team Tifo 👊
Finally someone who gets it! As much as we love Tuchel, he wasn’t gonna escape the sack. I saw it almost towards the end of last season coming,
The idea that a manager wants to manage big teams and win big things without having to deal with players that have big egos is an oxymoron really
I disagree you can absolutely win big things with big teams without players having an ego. That just doesn't make any sense
Pep did that with city.
Pep deals with big ego players by having an even bigger ego. Oh you think you’re some irreplaceable world class player? How many trophies you got?
Chelsea required their arch cross town rivals do them a favor in order to finish 4th in 2021, let's not get it twisted.
Chelsea were, are and will be a cup competition team.
Shouldn’t have been sacked man, Tuchel stuck with the club strongly through sanctions and even while going through a divorce, yet a poor run of form for a few games and he’s gone. Graham Potter or whoever comes in will definitely have a task on their hands.
Tuchel didn’t have sanctions while at Chelsea, that was Lampard
Run of poor games started since last season
So he was with the club during the temporary sanctions is the excuse for a dreadful squad that has no creativity, no idea on how to put the ball in the back of the net n forgotten how to keep a clean sheet
Maybe try not to be too sentimental n attached to any manager. A manager is supposed to improve the team but it keeps getting worse under him
@@A-A-Ron25 he is talking about the Russian sanctions.
@@vanlandings7466 ahhhh, good shout. That’s fair
If potter comes in he will need time, its not like everyone is expecting potter to win us the premier league in his first season. So if they are going to give potter time at the club why wouldnt they give more time to TT
You’re telling me if Chelsea had beaten Zagreb 7-0 they would have sacked TT anyway? Nah, this was a decision made off the back of a 1-0 defeat which will probably be reversed in the 2nd leg anyway.
Second leg? Jesus wept it’s the group stages… catch up Alan.
@@glowwurm9365 Although it's not really referred to as a 2nd leg you do play each team twice in the group stages you know
@@JamesHamp93 You don’t refer to a league match as a second leg…. Or are there 16 second legs in the premier league?
@@glowwurm9365 lol relax buddy you know what I mean, I’ve been at this longer Than you’ve probably been alive 😂
@@glowwurm9365 No you're right in that we don't say 2nd leg in the league, it's home and away but his point still stands that we play them again. You're being facetious, and if so allow me to be aswell. We play 19 other teams 2 times. So there's 19 '2nd legs' which is 38 games.
I don’t know if anyone else noticed this, but Chelsea has been a different team since they met Juventus for the first time. Though they won the second leg, but after the first leg, everything just went sideways, Tactical wise. And that match also the first game Lukaku starting to go downhill. I think that game affected Tuchel so much
Chelsea did him dirty, they couldn't get him any of the players he wanted and now they sack him💀
Losing the dressing room leads to the inevitable sacking of managers. It's been that way for a long time. On one hand Tuchel deserves more time to get out of the rut Chelsea is in however on the other hand it's not easy to do that when you lose the players.
Tuchel getting sacked is just worse for the Prem. Tired of these owners who don't know anything about football just ego tripping and taking complete control.
Know theyre going for Potter who we can guarantee the owner doesn't know anything about or has just seen the hype via social media.
Even if the form was bad Im sure Chelsea fans loved him still.
He won a UCL and Worlds Best Coach and was then sacked after 6 games sitting a point above Liverpool.
The owner also forced so many overpriced signings on him which definitely weren't Tuchel backed 100%.
It's so good you talk about those red flags around. Not saying Tuchel wasnt great for Chelsea. Just saying that some tones in his speech and some gestures on the touch line, wich are the things i can actually remember since months, made me felt little uncomfortable. Imagine how the one who has been telled off at the eyes of millions felt when Tuchel, for example did. That creates lot of stress and tension between coach and players. Hope this is the right decission. The best for Tuchel and very welcome Potter.
Wow, that unbelievable sounds like a retail management issue and not a footballing issue
Todd Boely seems clueless man. Hard to replace a manager like Thomas. But it's interesting to see who Chelsea plan on replacing him with.
List of reasons why Chelsea were right to sack Tuchel so early in the season:
End of list.
All jokes aside though, some are forgetting Chelsea narrowly finished 3rd and had Arsenal and Spurs not had bottle genes, they were the 5th best side since the turn of the year.
Tuchel has been good for Chelsea but all the players have regressed except Jorginho and Silva who are protected by the system We played positional style play but we were to horizontal in the final third of attack. The rotational play was terrible and it is seemed like the attackers didn’t know what to do in the final third.
Arteta was given basically 4 windows to rebuild his squad and get them all playing with total commitment to his new system. The final product so far is way better than when he started, though obviously they still have a ways to go. Klopp got similar patience. Arteta could easily been sacked after the 0-3 start last season but the patience was rewarded. Certainly you need 10/15 games to get 273 million worth of new players adjusted and comfortable with a new system?
The attackers being out of favour and feeling unwanted comes on the back of their poor performances. To use that as a stick to beat TT is ridiculously unfair
That was not always the case. Even when those same unnamed forwards played well, they got dropped and then brought back on the field out of position as Wing back. Pulisic is a great example. He was dropped from the starting 11 after playing well and scoring goals. When dropped from the 11, Tuchel said he understand it's not fair and that other players deserve to play too. Then he started playing Pulisic out of position and his performance dropped. Even called Pulisic a super sub when doing well off the bench.
How many players are you going to blame? It seems like you would blame all of them as long as poor little Tommy Tuchel doesn't get any blame.
If every single attacker is either unhappy, underperforming, or looking woeful considering where these attackers came from and how much they cost, then something greater is the problem. Tuchel has some fault for the issue with the attack.
Please consider adding subtitles to you videos! Great content!
Brilliant interview. Keep up the great work.
Maybe, Abramovich added a clause instructing Bohley to sack managers every two years
Happy trails, Tommy Too Cool. If I were a Chelsea supporter I'd be gutted they didn't try and make it work. As an Arsenal supporter, I'm intrigued by the rash decision making and lack of consistency over at Chelsea.
Chelsea fan here. Yes, the common feeling is disappointment . I have to admit that I was fuming over the way the team performed against Dinamo, but I alway saw TT as our long term coach. I think there was something else going on behind the scenes. Maybe, the players were performing so bad because they wanted him out. Or new owner were just looking for an excuse to bring their own new coach.
must've felt weird to be sold to southampton ryan
This is a really interesting video. I wasn’t aware of all of the background things. I really like Tuchel, but results speak unfortunately.
For me it was a big worry all the way back in September of last year. They had Lukaku playing well, scoring goals, and they were winning every week. Then Man City went to Stamford Bridge, and while the final score was only 0-1, Man City dominated every aspect of the game and should have had more. At full time it looked like a big reality check for Chelsea and honestly never saw Chelsea get back to any kind of consistency after that day.
Sooo true. I have constantly been seeing us as a shaky team tbh and I thought the entire champions league run was a stroke of players wanting to impress a new manager/a new big name manager/just sheer tactical genius/quite a bit of luck. When we played the second leg against Real, Benzema was so close to tying up the draw himself if not for a few close misses. The final was a Rudiger masterclass with tons of blocks, it was great to watch at the time but it should have been clear to see this was not how we were going to play week in week out. After that our attack has consisted of wonder goals and a few penalties, all of this resulted in low scoring ties and us slightly being edged out in a few games.
The man city game was a shame to see really as I think we actually were not nearly as bad as we have been in recent months, however that does not mean the game was not horrendous. The loss to Juventus was spectacularly bad just after that as well. From then on despite not losing there were some worrying performances like (Zenit 3 - 3 Chelsea) (Everton 1 - 1 Chelsea) (Wolves 0 - 0 Chelsea) and even some worrying looking wins like (Chelsea 3 - 2 Leeds) and (Chelsea 2 - 1 Watford).
Over reliance on players who really dont provide enough to the team or just players who dont even want to be here like Jorginho, Azpi, ZIyech and even Lukaku made our team feel so stale with no progress forward from our champions league winning team, which was by no means a complete team.
All of this is really unfortunate as most of us dont know what is happening behind the scenes, but still I would have loved him here for at least another season to turn things around for himself and the team.
This is what people seem to overlook. I can't blame them though because the effects of the sanctions, lukaku's interview and Major injuries (e.g. Reece and Chilly) seem to have masked this. It was easier to blame the sanctions etc than it was to admit that Chelsea were regressing.
That game was very early tho. We were top in November and on a high after beating Juve. I think that’s false to point to that. Tuchel in that game was even admitted he set up the team incorrectly.
Refs again at play. If they had beaten Spurs ? They played well in that game and got cheated. Might have kicked on. Sacking him correct and that squad can do really well. He will get lots of cash and a holiday. Its a win win.
This interviewer is so irritating interrupting when the guy was trying to explain
thats why we don't have any football philosophy at chelsea
Let's be honest, Boehly spend 300 mill on what Tuchel wanted but game after game, Tuchel blamed the players & even players he has just bought. That's like being a sugar daddy simp to some girl & she complains about the gifts she asked you to buy. It's a business, you should keep your mouth shut for a wwhile until players settle down... yet, he kept blaming the players. He kept making excuses, very unprofessional. Boehly would be like "you made me spend 300 mill & now you're saying they're bad players?"
Remembering the time he had at my club (Dortmund) and the way it went down in the end, his behavior, I’m confused why Chelsea fans aren’t glad he’s gone. Phlegmatic performances and erratic behavior off the pitch, really doesn’t scream world class coach to me?
I like JJ a lot, but here he was massively unhelpful. The correspondent gave lucid and concrete explanations, with JJ constantly reverting to abstract general nonsense.
Regarding the main point: tifo could make a piece on how, statistically, changing the manager influences a top team. It seems to me that it's generally negative: it's dangerously likely that Chelsea will have a 5 year downhill from here.
Tuchel just hasn’t been the same since shaking hands with Conte.
He was out-alpha'd and could never recover
You're implying that Conte hexed him
Conte Don't look like he's into the dark arts but, what do I know
What people don't seems to understand is that Boehly is a man of his words. He said he gave Tuchel full control of transfer, done. And Chelsea got great players because Tuchel were still there. But at the same time with how things went The board and Boehly doesn't see Tuchel as future since Tuchel doesn't really rate young players for example he doesn't rate Broja and bought Auba, and don't have plan for Gilmour in his team. Also the young players that just came haven't got opportunity. While the new board vision is to build for the long future and in this youngsters.
8:25 would've been a perfect place to insert an ad for your evening business school with Jon Rossdog
Only Mourinho and Conte lasted up to 2 years at Chelsea in the last decade
Chelsea hasn't been doing well for awhile now so I understand why they would sack Tuchel.
Excited to see what a new coach can do to unlock all the talent at Chelsea
I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF HE GOES TO BAYERN
I understand his performance has taken a dip but what manager better than Tuchel could come in
Big Sam
I remember when there was a report Alonso had an altercation with Alonso on the pitch while playing.
Great to see JJ bull promoted to newsmun
Factos: Tuchle survived 18 days more than Lampard 👀👍
Pochettino would be a terrible signing for Chelsea. He was a huge flop in PSG and in general not a guy you would comfortably say will produce trophies. Graham Potter or even Brendan Rogers would be better even though they also isnt too familiar with winning titles. Zidane could very well be their best option if they manage to land him.
Which they never would because he want to take over the national team after the world cup
TT system is a very labor intensive style of play which takes a toll on players he needed to change his tactics
I appreciate the 'Newsman' reference and I am pointing it out here. Thank you.
Not true to say that potter hasn't won anything. He won the 4th tier, 3rd tier and then gained promotion from the 2nd tier of Swedish football. He then won the cup a couple of years later
The ghost of mason Mount waaah waaahed to Todd Woodward
"JJ Bull
Tifo Newsman"
Top banter, ladz. 💪👌
Bosnich called this on live TV maybe 24 hrs before it happened. Crazy. Just like di matteo
It seems to be an unpopular opinion, but I think Chelsea made the right longterm choice. Tuchel's methods clearly have some serious merit (two UEFA finals don't happen by accident). However a dropoff in performances, player discord, and tactical rigidity seem to be hallmarks of Tuchel's management. I think his approach has a short shelf-life. I'm slightly surprised that Chelsea have been quite so ruthless, but I was skeptical that Chelsea would do better than 6th if Tuchel saw out the season.
- If they sacked him because of Dinamo, that is stupid. Everyone can lose in the UCL, Real lost to Sherif and won the tournament after that.
- If they sacked him because the team was going down since the later half of the last season and was mismanaged, why wait for the summer to be gone? Was it because Boehly went to the club to late in the summer?
- Is it because Tuchel and the new boss don't get along? That I can understand, Tuchel was fired in Dortmund after he won the cup there. But how about instead of getting rid of Tuchel, hire a new sports director or something? Tuchel would be happier, Boehly wouldn't have to deal with him, everything is fine.
I'm not saying Tuchel is perfect, but it is just odd.
the way the board treats their managers, be it past or present, I hope this club plunge into abyss.
someone needs to fill the spots outside the top 4 so why not Chelsea
Liam there at the end really overthinking Graham Potter's potential reluctance there. This is a massive opportunity at a well funded, established CL club. Potter hasn't solidified his status as an elite coach yet, one bad season at Brighton and he sets himself back maybe 5-10 years for another chance to step up to this level again. He'd have to step up to a mid sized Europa type club, hope everything goes perfect for a few years, then have to wait again for one of the elite clubs to have an opening, and hope they dont take a sexy name manager over him. If he doesn't take this chance right here right now for the reasons you stated, thats grounds for a sectioning.
Why would he go? Chelsea management clearly poor at recruitment and will fire him at the first sign of trouble. Let him stay at Brighton then he can move on to say arsenal or Liverpool
Disagree. Brighton are here to stay. They’re solidified premier league club. Well run and have a structure in place. You wont find many clubs like that. It’s a big risk. You got an owner who has been scattershot ever since he stepped into the door, doesn’t even have a DOF in place, doesn’t have real football people to liaise with. The performances on the pitch are beyond the manager.
As a Chelsea fan I believe that before any new manager is appointed a sporting director needs to be hired. Then they can guide the club in the right direction so we can properly build something.