Not the video I had planned to upload today, but knew I had to push a video out as soon as I started testing this thing. Hopefully CM can fix this abomination with a firmware update, and avoid trying to do anything tricky with future firmware.
CM is just not a brand of mouse can ever see as one any gamer would or should look to get 1st over Glorious, Logitech or Razer for reliable wireless gaming mouse, hell would even think of Corsair before CM ever. Oh yea & see other's price point comparison comments, would say if you're going wireless def don't go cheap pay a bit more for quality it's certainly worth it.
Appreciate the honesty in your reviews. Exceptional feedback about your personal experience with the mouse while showing some real world numbers to back it up.
Hello Matthew, our newest firmware update actually greatly improves motion delay to within 1ms of competitor's wireless mice. It got rolled out last week but looks like he didnt update
@@CoolerMasterGaming So, your response is to tell one of the viewers in the comment section? Maybe add Optimum Tech to your press release list and stay on top of it. Matthew is specifically mentioning how the review is based on a actual testing, not hearsay and anecdotes. So, until Optimum Tech has those updates that no one knew about, his review is valid. The fact that he didn't have the updates that you wanted him to have is a failure of communication on your part, if you even work for Cooler Master.
One of the most trustworthy reviewers. Was waiting on your review before making a decision. Hoping that later on they push a firmware update that improves or entirely resolves the issue.
Update has been out for a week already. Trying to confirm with him to see if he was using the newest one. Based on all our internal testing though, he wasn't
@@CoolerMasterGaming Damn, straight from the source, awesome! Hopefully with the new firmware, OT can make an updated review and we can see how it fares! I'm very excited for this shape and weight.
I’ve been using this mouse for two months now and I notice absolutely nothing of the delay, I saw the issues this mouse had, and show the review of rocketninja explaining they have fixed the issue. So due to the bad rep this mouse got for it initial mistakes it was massively discounted. I got a great mouse for 40 euro’s that is effectively the lightest wireless mouse on the market right now (not counting the completely unobtainable hilariously expensive final mice). I can honestly recommend it. You should take another look.
Small update to this comment, after about 7 months of (to?) heavy use the scroll on the scroll wheel has started to break down, it skips scrolling a lot, and half the time it scrolls the wrong direction. I’m sending it in for an RMA as we speak.
Forgot you reviewed this, but any chance you'll revisit the mm731 after the recent firmware? Bought one and it feels pretty great so would be curious how the numbers stack up to the other big name contenders
I really appreciate the genuine review, of course it may have seen harsh at some points but we need genuine honesty to keep these companies on their toes and to actually get this stuff done right. No paid bs just a good honest review.
I totally agree like he is honest and kinda harsh towards the mouse, but he backs it up with the numbers and isnt disrespectfull towards the brand he is a great reviewer
It's unfortunate though because we basically released a day 1 firmware update that greatly improved the motion delay. Doesn't seem like he was running the most up-to-date version though.
Mate I think it's a good review and have always appreciated the honest and scientific review approach to your products. I've been using the MM731 for the last month and don't have the issues u have mentioned. I have the viper ultimate and g pro wireless and even the g304 to compare with and cant seem to reproduce the motion delay problem. Since there is a new firmware being released that claims the problem has been fixed, will u be doing another updated review to see if the new firmware fixes the motion delay ?
I guess my comments were removed because I linked the newest firmware: 2.1.4 for mouse and 1.3.0 for dongle. I haven't had issues found in this review with my mouse.
@@CoolerMasterGaming Is the high click latency a result of the standard debounce delay that MasterPlus has listed under "button response time"? Mine was set to 14ms by default and I could set it to 4ms for the MM711. I wonder if this setting will be gone for the mm730/731, since they use optical switches
@@CoolerMasterGaming I got your mm710, it's pretty good. I smashed it to the table and it survived. It split in half but I popped it right it and I was good to go!
Hey would likr to hear from your experience. My model O kinda broke so i was planning to try this out. The series one pro is way out of my budget range atm. 😂
None of his previous videos are like this, though. He tends to be pretty neutral and fair for certain issues, so he seems to have stepped on a Lego before filming this. The aggression is just weird. Not sure where you see "sugar coating bullshit" since the vast majority of reviews on this site are reactionary or straight-up dismissive based on preference or brand loyalty - something this reviewer absolutely doesn't seem to do.
well this video is a weird one... as people say you should redo this one and probably take this down... apparently there was a firmware that fixed these issues when this video was already uploaded (embarrassing when mentioning firmware too... especially forcing people to buy inadequate actual garbage products in other areas on this channel...) the title and conclusion overly (and especially the description) hates on it for 1 immediately resolved issue not multiple, the data shows the mice literally competes if not beats the top mice EVEN with such issues (which shows how useless the other mice are especially for their price, and amount of production by such brands), and both the uploader and these comments overly crap on cooler master when their mice are the only ones currently competing against the top finalmouse mice, at a more realistic not scammy price (that is somehow believed to be a scam instead by this video???), have an actual realistic and obtainable product sale with a bunch of stock available, and they have been doing it consistently now since this release, AND BE IT a top performing WIRELESS mouse... you can clearly see people in the comments who bought such products and enjoy them, and people who havent yet buy other products that are absolutely wasteful crap (MULTIPLE TIMES MIND YOU) and yet talk the crap they represent... such a shame... the funny part is, they say this while this company is right here right now fixing things AND RESPONDIND TO THESE COMMENTS, WHILE producing actual worthy product in performance breaking form.... good job cooler master...
For anyone wondering, they fixed main issue. I just got the mouse and is really good. I do have another issue to be honest though. Master Plus just does not work for me. It's laggy, unresponsive to the point of unusable. Well at least the mice is good.
@@7ayelgames64 it updates automatically with master plus ( even though whole app is unresponsive it’s still capable of updating). I got another problem - scroll jumping. Scroll encoders used in this mouse are known to be bad. Mine started to misfunction after half a year. You can fix it, but it’s kinda hard to do it by yourself.
@@shaker8984 Do you think its the same for MM 730 (the wired version with 3389 sensor) ? I am thinking of buying this mouse but I am afraid about the scroll since I do use it quite a lot.
@@bojantottiz From it also uses this encoder. It will start slipping after about half to a year, and then you just need to follow closely tutorials of people who fixed it. I personally tried to fix it but made some stupid mistakes and killed my scroll entirely so I had to buy a new mouse :d
Really appreciate your time and effort with these gaming mice, the stats on it seemed awesome but I'm glad I didn't grab it based on your experience. 🙏❤️
It is very good now! If you like the Shape and you're interested in buying, don't hesitate. It's a fantastic mouse with stellar battery life. All you need to do is download their software and install the firmware updates.
Did you get yours straight from CM or out of the faulty batch the factory put out? CM made a statement that if you bought it (not yet released) it was likely a faulty unit and I don't think the firmware does anything. Mine didn't have this issue, according to them I got my unit direct from them from a batch of fixed mice.
@@optimumtech Appreciate the honest reviews you do, but I do have to say that's kind of an extreme statement to make. I agree and would love if nobody ever had "faulty' products on a shelf, but given how products are made, there are so many layers within the manufacturing process that all it takes is one portion to screw it all up. A last minute part switch because manufacturer A switched out the source to make up for demand that should be, on paper, exactly as same as the other part but actually isn't? Entirely possible. Every company has had this happened in some way. This is in no way trying to defend CM, but I'd say it's more important to see how CM responds and what they do about it. If they do nothing and claim it's not an issue, then yeah, it truly is an abomination of a product. Or even after firmware updates it still has this issue, same deal. But, I'd be keeping my eye on this to see if they can fix the issue.
@@optimumtech I bought an MM731 recently, updated the firmware before judging it and the performance is like what the PAW 3370 should be like. I was skeptical of the shape, yet it fit me like a glove.
I saw the thumbnail and I thought it's gonna be another great mouse, i clicked without reading the title. Lol. Good review. Thanks for being honest with it.
theory : 59g, closed big wireless ergo shape? and the wired mode fixes everything? My guess is that to keep the weight under 60g for their marketing department, they had to reduce significantly the size of the battery, to do powersaving as much as possible (especially with optical switches). When wired, you don't have to do a lot of power saving at all, so you just run the sensor full tilt. Wireless, you turn down the performance of the mouse and implement a firmware to hide it as much as possible. I remember seeing a prototype of this mouse in a Hardwas Canucks video a few month back, and there wasn't any problems with the sensor, even in wireless mode. I don't rememeber if the battery life was anything to speak about but I don't remember it to be exceptional either
Last time I asked if you can test the mm731 when you first introduced your testing rig, and here we go, nail in the coffin. Very sad to see a potential superlight killer being botched... hope they can fix it.
Ah, I looked at the product page before watching this video and was completely blown away. The specs and the design look amazing, honestly thought this would be my dream mouse (replacing the G Pro). Such a bummer for it to be ruined by shoddy software. Surely it can be rectified? Perhaps if enough people get behind CM to release an alternate firmware? Gaming Mode-Eco Mode kinda delay since I imagine the sensor averaging doesn't hurt office/casual use right?
Are you using this mouse as your main? I just won one in a giveaway, really looking forward to try it. I have been wanting to try it out before but after all the bad reviews didn't wanna spend my money on it.
@@Terra101 Still using it! Right click has become a little stiff tho. I love everything about this mouse, you may want to replace your mouse feet though depending on your preference.
@@caajcs Wireless connectivity still works great? Is the battery life good? I have heard people say the skates were pretty scratchy, but I use a glass pad so maybe doesn't matter. I guess the skates kinda catched on to the cloth of peoples pads, or how would you describe it?
@@Terra101 Wireless implementation is stellar after the firmware updates, battery life is amazing as well. Back when I played 6-8 hours a day I had to charge it every 2nd/3rd week or so. As for the glides I can't really say as I am no expert on mouse feet. I just think the stock feet are a lil slow.
I'm very interested to see your review on the new mm712 and if it still has the same issues or not. I'm really excited about the mouse and I believe your opinion in the reviews. Thank you.
Hey Optimum, im hoping you see this but there was a comment made by CoolerMaster (well a reply to a comment), saying that there has been a new update for the firmware of the mouse, and they have been trying to contact you. Just letting you know. Thanks tho!
Odyssey g7 and model D wireless reviews would be exciting. Even though you'd be late to it they'll garner huge views with the right title and thumbnail. And yours are the best on YT
I don't think you noted anywhere which firmware version you were running during these tests. As CM might be able to fix the issues it'd be good to know which state was tested in your video.
I almost bought cooler master stuff the other day to replace my Logitech mouse and kb just to try something new. Im so glad i went for glorious stuff. wireless moodel O and their mechanical tkl.
good choices, i love the model O wireless, tho I prefer the overall feel and responsiveness of my g pro, and their keyboards are great price to performance, glorious that is :D
Hi Optimum, This reminded me of devastator combo back in the day. The mose was still tracking up to like 4-5 cm in air im not even joking it was horrible :)
This is such a shame. I was soo looking forward to this mouse. It had everything on paper to be a perfect ergo wireless mouse. Hope cooler master can get their shit together and fix it.
I'd be interested to see your thoughts on the Coolermaster MM831 as that mouse from my testing has been pretty solid. Also probably has the best RGB I have seen on a mouse before. Definitely is a heavier mouse that a pro wireless or pro wireless superlight but over all it has an amazing feel. Would be a good follow up video to this one.
You mentioned optical switches. Could you give Roccat some representation on your latency chart by testing the Roccat Burst Series? The Burst Pro and Burst Core are both using Roccat's in-house optical switches
The only chart for Roccat that would interest me would be the percentage of warranty cases since the durability of their products just seemd awful thus far. I loved their Kone Pure but after having owned 3 of them (and 1 Kane) with only ONE KPOE (out of all 4) lasting longer than 2 years and a Vulkan keyboard that also had worn off key printing within 3 months I stay far away from Roccat. They are down at Razer's miserable levels of failure (though razer has become somewhat better, still a failure rate of 5/6 is just inacceptable - the viper mini is probably just surviving because I rarely use it because I don't liek its shape for gaming).
Maybe this is something they will fix with an update in the future? I've been using a logitech G305 for the past 2 years now and it's honestly amazing for the price. If anyone is looking for a mouse and have a tight budget I seriously recommend it. It weighs 99 grams, so not super lightweight, but my hand never gets fatigue or anything like that. Only issue is after a year I had to replace the stock mouse feet as they were peeling away(I bought corepads-they're great). Also I got a white version-picks up dirt very easily
I have this mouse. I haven’t noticed the input error correction, because I don’t have another mouse to a/b with. Build quality ~ The mouse is not well put together. It’s squeaks when you press on certain parts of the side panel, it rattles, and I think the springs in the buttons have buckled after a couple weeks, because they feel like they’re scraping and make a squeaking noise. I will say the cable it comes with is amazing, but it’s wireless so it doesn’t matter. Input delay ~ I think Optimum Tech is overegarating most people’s ability to detect input delay, but I am glad that they gave this mouse a negative review. I have actually noticed the click delay, but I was able to compensate for that. Buttons ~ Fucking dogshit. Too stiff, too much travel, qc issues, delay. Can’t even be compared to a cheap Logitech. Battery ~ Very good. I have charged the mouse once since I got it a few months ago. Considering the weight, the battery is very good. Overall ~ I have different gripes, but in the end we reach the same conclusion. Can’t recommend it.
Do you plan to release a review on Benq Mobiuz EX2510 (or new EX2510S)? This would be very helpful as there is really little information about this monitor.
i remember waiting for this mouse almost an year back when it was first shown, had a corsair glaive back then. viper ultimate and now on superlight. Happy to know i didn't wait for this thing.
Can you do a video on some of the best wired gaming mice, as most of the time, wireless mice are too expensive as compared to their wired counterparts. Additionally most of the time, you can recreate the feel of the wireless by using mice with para cords or other mods like that.
Not the video I had planned to upload today, but knew I had to push a video out as soon as I started testing this thing.
Hopefully CM can fix this abomination with a firmware update, and avoid trying to do anything tricky with future firmware.
CM is just not a brand of mouse can ever see as one any gamer would or should look to get 1st over Glorious, Logitech or Razer for reliable wireless gaming mouse, hell would even think of Corsair before CM ever. Oh yea & see other's price point comparison comments, would say if you're going wireless def don't go cheap pay a bit more for quality it's certainly worth it.
Sounds like the issue could be a battery saving solution. Maybe it lowers the sensor Hz or the wireless transfer rate?
@@blacklotu5223 Glorious is notorious for QC issues until the later batches of its products arrive... sure it belongs on that list?
@@blacklotu5223 Glorious 🤦♂️
Is the Noctua RTX 3070 coming next??
Appreciate the honesty in your reviews. Exceptional feedback about your personal experience with the mouse while showing some real world numbers to back it up.
Exactly. Too many reviewers don't include personal experience. Some just talk about specs without even using the thing they are reviewing.
Hello Matthew, our newest firmware update actually greatly improves motion delay to within 1ms of competitor's wireless mice. It got rolled out last week but looks like he didnt update
@@CoolerMasterGaming So, your response is to tell one of the viewers in the comment section? Maybe add Optimum Tech to your press release list and stay on top of it. Matthew is specifically mentioning how the review is based on a actual testing, not hearsay and anecdotes. So, until Optimum Tech has those updates that no one knew about, his review is valid. The fact that he didn't have the updates that you wanted him to have is a failure of communication on your part, if you even work for Cooler Master.
Yoooo
@@bahjinelson3986 burnn
You know he is absolutely hating on the mice when he doesn't link it in the description.😎
You know he is absolutely stating facts and backing it with visual proof and numbers. Not hating, but accurately presenting it's horrible flaws.😎
i was just about to comment this lmao
One of the most trustworthy reviewers. Was waiting on your review before making a decision. Hoping that later on they push a firmware update that improves or entirely resolves the issue.
Update has been out for a week already. Trying to confirm with him to see if he was using the newest one. Based on all our internal testing though, he wasn't
@@CoolerMasterGaming Damn, straight from the source, awesome! Hopefully with the new firmware, OT can make an updated review and we can see how it fares! I'm very excited for this shape and weight.
I have been wanting you to try the MM720 for ages!
Hope cm can fix it
Rolled out firmware update last week that already greatly improved the motion delay
yoo monaliza
Hope monaliza boleh review nanti. Katanya dah keluar new update
fanboi eyyy
This mouse is totally fixed now with many firmware updates , can get it for around £25 for the wireless version atm.
I just got one in the Ebuyer sale for £13.39!! Unreal for the price, paracord cable and everything.
@@iitzfizz Just seen on Ebuyer wireless £10 and wired £7, giving them away
would be cool to see you re visit this with the fixed firmware
I’ve been using this mouse for two months now and I notice absolutely nothing of the delay, I saw the issues this mouse had, and show the review of rocketninja explaining they have fixed the issue. So due to the bad rep this mouse got for it initial mistakes it was massively discounted. I got a great mouse for 40 euro’s that is effectively the lightest wireless mouse on the market right now (not counting the completely unobtainable hilariously expensive final mice). I can honestly recommend it. You should take another look.
It's now 29.82 Euro in Malaysia!
Image paying 150$ for da v3 pro
Small update to this comment, after about 7 months of (to?) heavy use the scroll on the scroll wheel has started to break down, it skips scrolling a lot, and half the time it scrolls the wrong direction. I’m sending it in for an RMA as we speak.
@@Moonwired interesting if it happens with mine i will get da v3 pro
@@Moonwired ok before i get those issues i bought da v3 pro and try send back mm731
Forgot you reviewed this, but any chance you'll revisit the mm731 after the recent firmware? Bought one and it feels pretty great so would be curious how the numbers stack up to the other big name contenders
It’s pretty good
Your the only person that I want to watch for tech reviews specifically mice
They updated the wireless mode, now it is totally fine
thank god. i just received my replacement 731 for my 711, i was worried for a sec
I heard they fixed everything so Idk what it used to be like but I just picked one up brand new in an Easter sale for, get this...£13.39!
now that there's a firmware update done to it could this one get a revisit?
I really appreciate the genuine review, of course it may have seen harsh at some points but we need genuine honesty to keep these companies on their toes and to actually get this stuff done right. No paid bs just a good honest review.
I totally agree like he is honest and kinda harsh towards the mouse, but he backs it up with the numbers and isnt disrespectfull towards the brand
he is a great reviewer
It's unfortunate though because we basically released a day 1 firmware update that greatly improved the motion delay. Doesn't seem like he was running the most up-to-date version though.
@@CoolerMasterGaming hopefully he will see your post
Mate I think it's a good review and have always appreciated the honest and scientific review approach to your products. I've been using the MM731 for the last month and don't have the issues u have mentioned. I have the viper ultimate and g pro wireless and even the g304 to compare with and cant seem to reproduce the motion delay problem. Since there is a new firmware being released that claims the problem has been fixed, will u be doing another updated review to see if the new firmware fixes the motion delay ?
Greatly appreciate the integrity you showed with uploading this video especially on a brand as well known as cooler master.
Dude the quality of your content is so good. I love watching your videos man, keep up the good work !
I guess my comments were removed because I linked the newest firmware: 2.1.4 for mouse and 1.3.0 for dongle.
I haven't had issues found in this review with my mouse.
Nice video! Cooler master needs to step it up in some regions of their products.
Their MM711 is amazing though and I'll be getting the MM730 to replace it. Once they fix the MM731, it'll be on par with the Gpro X but for 50$ less.
@@MG-kg1eq Hello Manuel, there is a firmware update that already greatly improves motion delay, making it within 1ms of competitors
@@CoolerMasterGaming Is the high click latency a result of the standard debounce delay that MasterPlus has listed under "button response time"? Mine was set to 14ms by default and I could set it to 4ms for the MM711. I wonder if this setting will be gone for the mm730/731, since they use optical switches
Damn thats sad. I had some hopes for this mouse. Nice review as always!
Hello Aquamaui, newest firmware update that released last week greatly improves the motion delay
@@CoolerMasterGaming I got your mm710, it's pretty good. I smashed it to the table and it survived. It split in half but I popped it right it and I was good to go!
Curious what he would say about it now that all the firmware updates fixed all the issues. I love my MM712 and have the 731 coming in today.
Share your thoughts please
Hey would likr to hear from your experience. My model O kinda broke so i was planning to try this out. The series one pro is way out of my budget range atm. 😂
lmao, love the brutal honesty and none of that sugar coating bullshit. We need more people like you man
Unfortunately, we had basically a 'day 1 patch' firmware update that greatly improved the motion delay and latency issues
None of his previous videos are like this, though. He tends to be pretty neutral and fair for certain issues, so he seems to have stepped on a Lego before filming this. The aggression is just weird. Not sure where you see "sugar coating bullshit" since the vast majority of reviews on this site are reactionary or straight-up dismissive based on preference or brand loyalty - something this reviewer absolutely doesn't seem to do.
Thanks for not holding your punches, we really need more fully honest reviewers, like yourself. :)
fyi: i received an email notification on 14th Dec saying that they fixed the motion delay with a firmware update
Always satisfying to see companies get called out on product design flaws.
well this video is a weird one... as people say you should redo this one and probably take this down...
apparently there was a firmware that fixed these issues when this video was already uploaded (embarrassing when mentioning firmware too... especially forcing people to buy inadequate actual garbage products in other areas on this channel...)
the title and conclusion overly (and especially the description) hates on it for 1 immediately resolved issue not multiple, the data shows the mice literally competes if not beats the top mice EVEN with such issues (which shows how useless the other mice are especially for their price, and amount of production by such brands), and both the uploader and these comments overly crap on cooler master when their mice are the only ones currently competing against the top finalmouse mice, at a more realistic not scammy price (that is somehow believed to be a scam instead by this video???), have an actual realistic and obtainable product sale with a bunch of stock available, and they have been doing it consistently now since this release, AND BE IT a top performing WIRELESS mouse...
you can clearly see people in the comments who bought such products and enjoy them, and people who havent yet buy other products that are absolutely wasteful crap (MULTIPLE TIMES MIND YOU) and yet talk the crap they represent... such a shame...
the funny part is, they say this while this company is right here right now fixing things AND RESPONDIND TO THESE COMMENTS, WHILE producing actual worthy product in performance breaking form.... good job cooler master...
thanks for the review ! i was searching for this mouse review for days hahah
hey isaac, we actually had a firmware update that came out last week that already greatly improves the motion delay
For anyone wondering, they fixed main issue. I just got the mouse and is really good. I do have another issue to be honest though. Master Plus just does not work for me. It's laggy, unresponsive to the point of unusable. Well at least the mice is good.
Did u download anything to fix it or just bought it?
@@7ayelgames64 it updates automatically with master plus ( even though whole app is unresponsive it’s still capable of updating). I got another problem - scroll jumping. Scroll encoders used in this mouse are known to be bad. Mine started to misfunction after half a year. You can fix it, but it’s kinda hard to do it by yourself.
@@shaker8984 Do you think its the same for MM 730 (the wired version with 3389 sensor) ? I am thinking of buying this mouse but I am afraid about the scroll since I do use it quite a lot.
@@bojantottiz From it also uses this encoder. It will start slipping after about half to a year, and then you just need to follow closely tutorials of people who fixed it. I personally tried to fix it but made some stupid mistakes and killed my scroll entirely so I had to buy a new mouse :d
@@bojantottiz afaik mm730 uses optical scroll encoder, so hopefully no such problems. Ive only had mine for less than a year, hope it persists well
Really appreciate your time and effort with these gaming mice, the stats on it seemed awesome but I'm glad I didn't grab it based on your experience. 🙏❤️
THIS TITLE IS BEAUTIFUL
Is it still no go? I heard they have improved some so maybe I can give it a shot
It is very good now! If you like the Shape and you're interested in buying, don't hesitate. It's a fantastic mouse with stellar battery life.
All you need to do is download their software and install the firmware updates.
i could listen to this voice all day fucking long
Love how you use the plant to display the mouse
And here I am, loving my wired MM720.... Sad that they screwed this up so badly, hopefully any affected customers can get a refund.
I hope this video takes off and we get some kind of statement from CM
Did you get yours straight from CM or out of the faulty batch the factory put out? CM made a statement that if you bought it (not yet released) it was likely a faulty unit and I don't think the firmware does anything. Mine didn't have this issue, according to them I got my unit direct from them from a batch of fixed mice.
I bought it from a store yesterday. No "faulty" product should be on a shelf.
Glad yours doesn't have the same issue.
@@optimumtech Appreciate the honest reviews you do, but I do have to say that's kind of an extreme statement to make. I agree and would love if nobody ever had "faulty' products on a shelf, but given how products are made, there are so many layers within the manufacturing process that all it takes is one portion to screw it all up. A last minute part switch because manufacturer A switched out the source to make up for demand that should be, on paper, exactly as same as the other part but actually isn't? Entirely possible. Every company has had this happened in some way. This is in no way trying to defend CM, but I'd say it's more important to see how CM responds and what they do about it. If they do nothing and claim it's not an issue, then yeah, it truly is an abomination of a product. Or even after firmware updates it still has this issue, same deal. But, I'd be keeping my eye on this to see if they can fix the issue.
@@optimumtech I bought an MM731 recently, updated the firmware before judging it and the performance is like what the PAW 3370 should be like.
I was skeptical of the shape, yet it fit me like a glove.
I'm impressed that the MM730 in 48grams without holes though....
I saw the thumbnail and I thought it's gonna be another great mouse, i clicked without reading the title. Lol. Good review. Thanks for being honest with it.
Hey ali you should review this mouse again with the firmware update😀
theory : 59g, closed big wireless ergo shape?
and the wired mode fixes everything?
My guess is that to keep the weight under 60g for their marketing department, they had to reduce significantly the size of the battery, to do powersaving as much as possible (especially with optical switches). When wired, you don't have to do a lot of power saving at all, so you just run the sensor full tilt. Wireless, you turn down the performance of the mouse and implement a firmware to hide it as much as possible.
I remember seeing a prototype of this mouse in a Hardwas Canucks video a few month back, and there wasn't any problems with the sensor, even in wireless mode. I don't rememeber if the battery life was anything to speak about but I don't remember it to be exceptional either
Didn't they recently fix these issues?
Yes
Yeah, now it performs like a 3370 should.
You still have to update the firmware tho.
My wheel is unusable. It’s jumps al over. Before that started it was the best mouse there is.
great and honest review. Hope that they fix it asap
Hey Lapis, we actually had a firmware update that came out last week that already greatly improves the motion delay
@@CoolerMasterGaming woah that was fast! Awesome!!
Thanks for exposing this. CoolerMaster having been doing good recently, it's a shame they ended up going back to their old ways with this mouse.
Hey Tadi, we actually had a firmware update that came out last week that already greatly improves the motion delay
Last time I asked if you can test the mm731 when you first introduced your testing rig, and here we go, nail in the coffin. Very sad to see a potential superlight killer being botched... hope they can fix it.
Hey PePaPu, we actually had a firmware update that came out last week that already greatly improves the motion delay
Ah, I looked at the product page before watching this video and was completely blown away.
The specs and the design look amazing, honestly thought this would be my dream mouse (replacing the G Pro).
Such a bummer for it to be ruined by shoddy software.
Surely it can be rectified? Perhaps if enough people get behind CM to release an alternate firmware? Gaming Mode-Eco Mode kinda delay since I imagine the sensor averaging doesn't hurt office/casual use right?
The latest firmware fixed this mouse. I have it and can say it's absolutely wonderful in terms of build quality etc.
"I will not be linking it in the discription" Savage
I love your reviews. Are you ever gonna make a wireless headset review/tier list?
god bless you. both for calling a product what it is and for including benchmarks, which i love lol
Hello Opinyin, our newest firmware update greatly improves motion delay to within 1ms of competitor's wireless models. It got rolled out last week.
@@CoolerMasterGaming thanks for the reply! I have wondered if people covered the motion delay post firmware update, but wasnt sure
You should really download the latest firmware and give it another review. This mouse is fantastic with the wireless improvements.
Are you using this mouse as your main? I just won one in a giveaway, really looking forward to try it. I have been wanting to try it out before but after all the bad reviews didn't wanna spend my money on it.
@@Terra101 Still using it! Right click has become a little stiff tho.
I love everything about this mouse, you may want to replace your mouse feet though depending on your preference.
@@caajcs Wireless connectivity still works great? Is the battery life good?
I have heard people say the skates were pretty scratchy, but I use a glass pad so maybe doesn't matter. I guess the skates kinda catched on to the cloth of peoples pads, or how would you describe it?
@@Terra101 Wireless implementation is stellar after the firmware updates, battery life is amazing as well. Back when I played 6-8 hours a day I had to charge it every 2nd/3rd week or so.
As for the glides I can't really say as I am no expert on mouse feet. I just think the stock feet are a lil slow.
@@caajcs Sounds great thanks!
I'm very interested to see your review on the new mm712 and if it still has the same issues or not. I'm really excited about the mouse and I believe your opinion in the reviews. Thank you.
Hey Optimum, im hoping you see this but there was a comment made by CoolerMaster (well a reply to a comment), saying that there has been a new update for the firmware of the mouse, and they have been trying to contact you. Just letting you know.
Thanks tho!
Odyssey g7 and model D wireless reviews would be exciting. Even though you'd be late to it they'll garner huge views with the right title and thumbnail. And yours are the best on YT
very nice vid! may i ask which firmware are you using?
will u be checking out the pulsar xlite wireless ?
It’s pretty damn good now. Period. Update this.
I actually feel bad for Cooler Master. This mouse is on par with the G Pro Superlight once you update the firmware.
Can you review their new mouse the mm712
Please test the MM712, they say they fixed the latency in the new mouse and it's now competitive with the top wireless options.
They even fixed the 731. Its actually solid and cheap.
Please review Pulsar Xlite Wireless or the other products that they have.
I’d love to see you review a mouse from Vaxee’s lineup, preferably the NP01S
Here for the savage title
I don't think you noted anywhere which firmware version you were running during these tests.
As CM might be able to fix the issues it'd be good to know which state was tested in your video.
Any plan to check out (wired/wireless) Corsair M65 RGB Ultra and Sabre RGB?
i love how people are reviewing it knowing it is trash. and yet we still watch it knowing it is trash. nice
Title got me dead so much that I really got to play that video asap
Didn't expect you do a review about it. I'm also disappointed. Getting a GPX soon.
Good time to mention the G350 is currently 59 AUD on Amazon.
On sale on Amazon in the UK too, just got one for £30.
I almost bought cooler master stuff the other day to replace my Logitech mouse and kb just to try something new. Im so glad i went for glorious stuff. wireless moodel O and their mechanical tkl.
good choices, i love the model O wireless, tho I prefer the overall feel and responsiveness of my g pro, and their keyboards are great price to performance, glorious that is :D
Glorious battery life sucks but mouse is good
Lmao. If you think glorious mouse and KB are better than everything else your clearly missing out on the other greatness peripherals
Hi Optimum, This reminded me of devastator combo back in the day. The mose was still tracking up to like 4-5 cm in air im not even joking it was horrible :)
The title brings back to a honest yet brutal review vibe.
This is such a shame. I was soo looking forward to this mouse. It had everything on paper to be a perfect ergo wireless mouse. Hope cooler master can get their shit together and fix it.
Hey Aradhya, we actually had a firmware update that came out last week that already greatly improves the motion delay
can we expect a xlite wireless review anytime soon?
"and i will not be linking it down below" 😂😂 shit got me
Whats that game youre playing to train the aim? Thx
is that an artisan hien?!?!? you finally got one?
Reminds me a lot of the early 2012/2013? razer mamba. Wireless mode had all sorts of weird issues that weren't present when wired.
I'd be interested to see your thoughts on the Coolermaster MM831 as that mouse from my testing has been pretty solid. Also probably has the best RGB I have seen on a mouse before. Definitely is a heavier mouse that a pro wireless or pro wireless superlight but over all it has an amazing feel. Would be a good follow up video to this one.
Sheeshhhh... Was planning to get a full CM gaming set up.. but I'm gonna have to wait until CM fix this 😂
I would love to see a review of headsets! I wanna upgrade as I can see my wire is starting to contort oddly.
You mentioned optical switches. Could you give Roccat some representation on your latency chart by testing the Roccat Burst Series? The Burst Pro and Burst Core are both using Roccat's in-house optical switches
The only chart for Roccat that would interest me would be the percentage of warranty cases since the durability of their products just seemd awful thus far. I loved their Kone Pure but after having owned 3 of them (and 1 Kane) with only ONE KPOE (out of all 4) lasting longer than 2 years and a Vulkan keyboard that also had worn off key printing within 3 months I stay far away from Roccat.
They are down at Razer's miserable levels of failure (though razer has become somewhat better, still a failure rate of 5/6 is just inacceptable - the viper mini is probably just surviving because I rarely use it because I don't liek its shape for gaming).
Glad this is getting so much hate cause I will be able to get one for Christmas with no shit scalpers ruining it
Can you also do the Xm1r?
Maybe this is something they will fix with an update in the future? I've been using a logitech G305 for the past 2 years now and it's honestly amazing for the price. If anyone is looking for a mouse and have a tight budget I seriously recommend it. It weighs 99 grams, so not super lightweight, but my hand never gets fatigue or anything like that. Only issue is after a year I had to replace the stock mouse feet as they were peeling away(I bought corepads-they're great). Also I got a white version-picks up dirt very easily
How are those Sennheiser IEMs? :)
Could you please share your kovaacs training maps?
Would love to see where the wireless Glorious Models lands on your lists.
I have this mouse. I haven’t noticed the input error correction, because I don’t have another mouse to a/b with.
Build quality ~ The mouse is not well put together. It’s squeaks when you press on certain parts of the side panel, it rattles, and I think the springs in the buttons have buckled after a couple weeks, because they feel like they’re scraping and make a squeaking noise. I will say the cable it comes with is amazing, but it’s wireless so it doesn’t matter.
Input delay ~ I think Optimum Tech is overegarating most people’s ability to detect input delay, but I am glad that they gave this mouse a negative review. I have actually noticed the click delay, but I was able to compensate for that.
Buttons ~ Fucking dogshit. Too stiff, too much travel, qc issues, delay. Can’t even be compared to a cheap Logitech.
Battery ~ Very good. I have charged the mouse once since I got it a few months ago. Considering the weight, the battery is very good.
Overall ~ I have different gripes, but in the end we reach the same conclusion. Can’t recommend it.
Please, what is the aim training app name? I didnt quite catch it :)
Have you tried Reviewing the Ziyou lang m6 wired mouse?
Would you ever sell one of your pc builds?
loving my ultra custom ergo, really wish there is something similar too
buying this one see how it goes
The mm731 is unusable right now, wait until cooler master fixes their firmware
Zy / RocketJumpNinja is no longer doing full mouse reviews. Nice to see you are picking up some of that :)
Do you plan to release a review on Benq Mobiuz EX2510 (or new EX2510S)? This would be very helpful as there is really little information about this monitor.
Any chance you could test the G703 Lightspeed? I’m curious how it compares to the G Pro X.
Is this experience the same with Bluetooth and 2.4? Could you do a latency test using Bluetooth as well?
you can`t use bluetooth for gaming
@@omegaPhix How come?
@@TheHalfGlassFullGuy
Because of it's incredibly high latency
i remember waiting for this mouse almost an year back when it was first shown, had a corsair glaive back then. viper ultimate and now on superlight. Happy to know i didn't wait for this thing.
Have you tried updating dongle?
Ouch, But very true to your passion to make this for the people.
Any chance of seeing a review on the Corsair Dark Core Pro SE Wireless
artisan mousepad review please! would love to know what you think
Can you do a video on some of the best wired gaming mice, as most of the time, wireless mice are too expensive as compared to their wired counterparts. Additionally most of the time, you can recreate the feel of the wireless by using mice with para cords or other mods like that.