I remember watching this game in Edmonton on CITV Television. The Host, Tim Spelecy suggested at the beginning of the game that Gretzky might score 5 goals to make it to 50. I thought that he was crazy.....
He was crazy and it is crazy. I was broke in the 80’s and only got to see Wayne play once live but it was such a rush to be in in Edmonton in the 80’s and cheer from our living rooms! Then hit the streets after the cup wins. A guy walked over my girlfriend’s car on Jasper avenue, fun times!
Two great passes by Coffey using the Boards to feed Gretzky for his 1st and 4th Goal. Had Coffey not Been Traded Gretzky's 183 Point Season would have been a 5th 200+ Point Season
Goalies are better now for sure, but if you look at the placement of so many of his shots, their all in the top corners right under the bar, or squeaking them in just inside the posts, it doesn't matter what era you're playing in with shot placement that consistent and precise. Gretsky wasn't just a put in on net guy he always knew where he wanted to put the puck, he spent thousands of hours practicing shot placement, it's why he scored so many goals.
You seen the equipment the skaters and goalies used back then? It evens out, Gretzky would dominate today's game if he were born in 1999 like you wouldn't believe. l know you hate hearing that.
Yet nobody else was racking up the points like Gretzky; statistically, the gap between his performance and the others of his era is the greatest ever in team sports.
@@rickroll9086 Love Gretzky but Babe Ruth for 3 years hit more Home Runs then any Team did , both leagues ..He hit 54 home runs in 1920 his first after Red Sox traded him ..The entire Boston team that year with 5,995 plate apperances hit a total of 22
@@rickroll9086 I did some research a while ago and I believe M. Wilton Norman Chamberlain in one of his seasons might have even a bigger gap between him and the next one. Especially if you add up points and rebounds - he had a 50/25 season. However it has nothing to do with Gretzky's dominance.
Not only that, he broke Richard and Bossy’s mark THREE times in a 4 year span (also 50 in 42 and 50 in 49). If he hadn’t scored 50 in 39, everyone would be saying how insane 50 in 42 was. Only Gretzky can make 50 goals in 42 games seem like a complete afterthought lol
Wayne's my man but Mario did something with that 5-goal game even 99 has never done, gotta give 66 the props, what he did never happened before, and will never again
@@WinslowLeach1974 sure, he did something Gretzky never did. But why don't we rank the level of difficulty of goals. From easiest to hardest. Empty Net Penalty Shot Power Play Even Strength Shorthanded So Mario scored one of each in a game. Gretzky had games where he had: -1 power play, 1 empty net, and 3 even strength (arguable which is harder since no short handed goals, which is the hardest, but even strength goals harder than power play and penalty shot) -5 even strength goals (again arguable, even strength harder than penalty shot, power play, and empty net, but easier than shorthanded) -2 power play, and 3 even strength (again arguable, power play is harder than penalty shot, and even strength is harder than empty net, but even strength is easier than shorthanded). --4 even strength and 1 shorthanded (harder than Lemieux's 5 goal game, because even strength is harder than penalty shot, power play, and empty net) Is Mario's game of 1 empty net, 1 penalty shot, 1 power play, 1 even strength, and 1 shortanded goal better than Gretzky's game of 4 even strength goals and 1 shorthanded goal? No. That's like saying a cycle in baseball (single, double, triple, and home run) is better than having a 4 home run game. The 5 different goals game is a fun thing, but not better than scoring goals without the advantage of a power play, penalty shot, or empty net.
If you take away all of waynes goals i mean official nhl records he still has more unofficial records than anyone has officially and when i say more i mean alot more
And yet only one guy had over 90 goals and over 200 points. 30 or 40 years from now when people say the game is harder than it was in the 2020's to shortchange McDavid, Ovechkin, or Crosby, I bet your tune will change.
@@kentmartin9289 which is why you call Wayne Gretzky the greatest player of HIS time. that way you don't discredit his achievements yet still acknowledge the growth and evolution of the game. Ovechkin or Crosby would of dwarfed his stats with these goalies, McDavid would run circles around the entire team. God forbid a player like Pavel Datsyuk was thrown back in time, he'd be the only one with the puck.
@@notyourmama4166 Pavel Datsyuk played his first season only 4 seasons after the last time an old broken down Wayne Gretzky lead the league in assists for the 16th and final time with 67 assists at the height (depth?) of the dead puck era (2.64 goals scored per game that year). There were only 2 seasons during Pavel Datsyuk's career where there were fewer goals scored per game. His rookie year there were 2.62 and his third year there was 2.57. And yet, despite playing the vast majority of his career and all of his prime in a higher scoring NHL than that year that Gretzky had 67 assists, Pavel Datsyuk never lead the league in goals, or assists, or points, and topped out at 66 assists. Heck, in that Gretzky season I mentioned even though he had long since lost interest in scoring goals he still scored 23, which is Datsyuk's median goal total (he had 7 seasons above 23 goals, topping out at 32, and 6 seasons below 23 goals, and 1 season with exactly 23 goals). So how did this player that is supposedly so much higher evolved incapable of matching 37 year old Gretzky's numbers just a few short years after Gretzky's retirement? Was a switch flipped in the year 2000 when all of a sudden all current and future NHLers suddenly became amazing? The best way to compare players across eras is how they did relative to their peers. The method of sending a current player back with a time machine is very flawed. Would they really dominate more than Gretzky did if they were using the same skates, sticks, pads, and were playing shifts that were significantly longer back then, thus slowing players down? If those factors bite into their abilities, then are you giving modern players greatness points for advancements in technology that they had nothing to do with?
@@kentmartin9289 for one im not claiming any of those things about pavel but yea he is the greatest puck handler that ive ever seen. and when i watch highlights from gretzkys era yea he would have a field day with those guys. look all I'm saying is he was the greatest of his time and if Gretzkys inaugural season was 2000 he would be just a great player because he wouldn't of had 20 years of crap goal tending. cant we agree on that? your not going to convince me that prime wayne gretzky is scoring 80 goals a season in this era. Ovechkin would of had quite a few 80 goal seasons with those goalies.
Helps that it’s Gretzky. He had a way of making scoring look easy. The Philadelphia Flyers were the top defensive team in the NHL at the time, and the Flyers’ goalie Pete Peters had the best GAA. Gretzky had a way of making teams and goalies look bad.
Yeah it was for Gretzky. But he was still wayyyyy ahead of his peers. If it was so easy why didn't anyone else even come close to his numbers? You have to compare to their peers in their time. The skaters were as limited as the goalies in their equipment. 2x4 s for sticks. Roller skates with a blade slapped on them. And on it goes. I WIlL say the goalies were smaller then.
@@deletetruth8771 McSorley getting 359 points wasn't indicative of an enforcer's life in the NHL in those days. He was an enforcer playing with Wayne Gretzky. He had 68 points from 320 games without Gretzky as a teammate. 291 points from 641 games with Gretzky as a teammate. That's 0.45 points per game with Gretzky and 0.21 points per game without Gretzky. That's how great Gretzky was.
I remember watching this game in Edmonton on CITV Television. The Host, Tim Spelecy suggested at the beginning of the game that Gretzky might score 5 goals to make it to 50. I thought that he was crazy.....
He was crazy and it is crazy. I was broke in the 80’s and only got to see Wayne play once live but it was such a rush to be in in Edmonton in the 80’s and cheer from our living rooms! Then hit the streets after the cup wins. A guy walked over my girlfriend’s car on Jasper avenue, fun times!
Gretzky called it,in the newspaper. He said" I think I'll break it tonight,l think I'll get 5 goals here."
Two great passes by Coffey using the Boards to feed Gretzky for his 1st and 4th Goal. Had Coffey not Been Traded Gretzky's 183 Point Season would have been a 5th 200+ Point Season
True. That team was absolutely stacked.
I'm attempting to figure that out. It might take a while. You're most very likely right LOL.
Gretzky made the unbelievable look like something he did every day. For anyone watching, it was pure enjoyment.
Except if you were watching from Philly, as I was.
@@Area_Man 😂
Yes, that is Don Cherry doing the colour commentary for this game.
This guy was in a class of his own
Most incredible sports scoring machine known to man
I am struck by the beige-ness of those crowd shots.
This was before everyone felt the need to wear jerseys.
Lol those Cooperalls though!!
God... those Cooperalls...
classic equipment
I never got to see him play but watching these highlights. I never knew that he had a laser snapshots
This what you call greatness 🫡🫡
HAPPY BIRTHDAY WAYNE GRETZKY
Those goalies weren't much, back then... Crazy how the game has evolved
Goalies are better now for sure, but if you look at the placement of so many of his shots, their all in the top corners right under the bar, or squeaking them in just inside the posts, it doesn't matter what era you're playing in with shot placement that consistent and precise. Gretsky wasn't just a put in on net guy he always knew where he wanted to put the puck, he spent thousands of hours practicing shot placement, it's why he scored so many goals.
You seen the equipment the skaters and goalies used back then? It evens out, Gretzky would dominate today's game if he were born in 1999 like you wouldn't believe. l know you hate hearing that.
Yet nobody else was racking up the points like Gretzky; statistically, the gap between his performance and the others of his era is the greatest ever in team sports.
@@rickroll9086 Love Gretzky but Babe Ruth for 3 years hit more Home Runs then any Team did , both leagues ..He hit 54 home runs in 1920 his first after Red Sox traded him ..The entire Boston team that year with 5,995 plate apperances hit a total of 22
@@rickroll9086 I did some research a while ago and I believe M. Wilton Norman Chamberlain in one of his seasons might have even a bigger gap between him and the next one. Especially if you add up points and rebounds - he had a 50/25 season. However it has nothing to do with Gretzky's dominance.
Imagine how much those programs that were tossed onto the ice are worth today. At least a few thousand I would assume.
Richard and Bossy did it in 50 games. You would think Gretzky would do it in 48 or 49 games but no. He crushed it in 39 games. So phyco
Not only that, he broke Richard and Bossy’s mark THREE times in a 4 year span (also 50 in 42 and 50 in 49). If he hadn’t scored 50 in 39, everyone would be saying how insane 50 in 42 was. Only Gretzky can make 50 goals in 42 games seem like a complete afterthought lol
The Great One.
Mark Levin
goalies from that era don't even look like they're trying?
sandmonkey322 bullshit.3 of those goal were perfect shots.they would have gone in vs today's goalies.
Jeffrey Kaufmann no
like Jeffrey said, those would have gone in on goalies today, also the game wasnt evolved yet, the players dont look like they are trying either
@@kitzel2703 Yes cause Gretzky would be a better player Today then in the 80s.
Was that Cherry announcing?
lol do you even have to ask?
give Wayne, todays stick and skates for this game? He wouldve had a dozen goals in it.
Give him today's
Goalies, he wouldn't of scored one of those goals
@@iib9123 How you tell the internet...you couldnt figure out how the equipment goes on.
bahaha
G.O.A.T
That lemieux guy also had a pretty good 5 goal game
he's no Gretzky, pal.
@@amazinmets8439 thats for sure
Wayne's my man but Mario did something with that 5-goal game even 99 has never done, gotta give 66 the props, what he did never happened before, and will never again
@@WinslowLeach1974 sure, he did something Gretzky never did. But why don't we rank the level of difficulty of goals.
From easiest to hardest.
Empty Net
Penalty Shot
Power Play
Even Strength
Shorthanded
So Mario scored one of each in a game. Gretzky had games where he had:
-1 power play, 1 empty net, and 3 even strength (arguable which is harder since no short handed goals, which is the hardest, but even strength goals harder than power play and penalty shot)
-5 even strength goals (again arguable, even strength harder than penalty shot, power play, and empty net, but easier than shorthanded)
-2 power play, and 3 even strength (again arguable, power play is harder than penalty shot, and even strength is harder than empty net, but even strength is easier than shorthanded).
--4 even strength and 1 shorthanded (harder than Lemieux's 5 goal game, because even strength is harder than penalty shot, power play, and empty net)
Is Mario's game of 1 empty net, 1 penalty shot, 1 power play, 1 even strength, and 1 shortanded goal better than Gretzky's game of 4 even strength goals and 1 shorthanded goal? No. That's like saying a cycle in baseball (single, double, triple, and home run) is better than having a 4 home run game. The 5 different goals game is a fun thing, but not better than scoring goals without the advantage of a power play, penalty shot, or empty net.
@@kentmartin9289 There some luck needed to score 5 Goals in 5 different Ways.
58 assists during that streak wich is phyco and never mentioned
Commentator is right so far, hasn’t broken right
He was 20 yrs old
This was when hockey was so entertaining to watch. Now its just a bunch of huge robots going at it. Game is too fast and the goalies are just too big
ok grandpa time for a nap
@@Wintrz98 haha
i feel like im watching americas funniest home videos the way this goalie is whifing and falling all over.
@@notyourmama4166The goalies look just as bad when you watch a McDavid highlight package.
Not fair, they he was playing against a roller hockey team, just look at those pants
Hard to play defense in Cooper-Alls
You've never worn cooperalls.
If you take away all of waynes goals i mean official nhl records he still has more unofficial records than anyone has officially and when i say more i mean alot more
i was there with dad 😊🙃😃😁
I know Dad. He's married to my friend's mother.
Real nice that, great memories for you ..
I'd say Junior A goalies of today are more challenging to score on than the goalies from the 70s and earlier.
Library Card this was the 80's
And yet only one guy had over 90 goals and over 200 points. 30 or 40 years from now when people say the game is harder than it was in the 2020's to shortchange McDavid, Ovechkin, or Crosby, I bet your tune will change.
@@kentmartin9289 which is why you call Wayne Gretzky the greatest player of HIS time. that way you don't discredit his achievements yet still acknowledge the growth and evolution of the game.
Ovechkin or Crosby would of dwarfed his stats with these goalies, McDavid would run circles around the entire team. God forbid a player like Pavel Datsyuk was thrown back in time, he'd be the only one with the puck.
@@notyourmama4166 Pavel Datsyuk played his first season only 4 seasons after the last time an old broken down Wayne Gretzky lead the league in assists for the 16th and final time with 67 assists at the height (depth?) of the dead puck era (2.64 goals scored per game that year). There were only 2 seasons during Pavel Datsyuk's career where there were fewer goals scored per game. His rookie year there were 2.62 and his third year there was 2.57.
And yet, despite playing the vast majority of his career and all of his prime in a higher scoring NHL than that year that Gretzky had 67 assists, Pavel Datsyuk never lead the league in goals, or assists, or points, and topped out at 66 assists. Heck, in that Gretzky season I mentioned even though he had long since lost interest in scoring goals he still scored 23, which is Datsyuk's median goal total (he had 7 seasons above 23 goals, topping out at 32, and 6 seasons below 23 goals, and 1 season with exactly 23 goals).
So how did this player that is supposedly so much higher evolved incapable of matching 37 year old Gretzky's numbers just a few short years after Gretzky's retirement? Was a switch flipped in the year 2000 when all of a sudden all current and future NHLers suddenly became amazing?
The best way to compare players across eras is how they did relative to their peers. The method of sending a current player back with a time machine is very flawed. Would they really dominate more than Gretzky did if they were using the same skates, sticks, pads, and were playing shifts that were significantly longer back then, thus slowing players down? If those factors bite into their abilities, then are you giving modern players greatness points for advancements in technology that they had nothing to do with?
@@kentmartin9289 for one im not claiming any of those things about pavel but yea he is the greatest puck handler that ive ever seen. and when i watch highlights from gretzkys era yea he would have a field day with those guys. look all I'm saying is he was the greatest of his time and if Gretzkys inaugural season was 2000 he would be just a great player because he wouldn't of had 20 years of crap goal tending. cant we agree on that? your not going to convince me that prime wayne gretzky is scoring 80 goals a season in this era. Ovechkin would of had quite a few 80 goal seasons with those goalies.
Scoring looks so easy in this era lol
Helps that it’s Gretzky. He had a way of making scoring look easy. The Philadelphia Flyers were the top defensive team in the NHL at the time, and the Flyers’ goalie Pete Peters had the best GAA. Gretzky had a way of making teams and goalies look bad.
You ever used the equipment gretzky and them used in the 80s? Shooting and maneuvering with the puck was much more difficult.
Yeah it was for Gretzky. But he was still wayyyyy ahead of his peers. If it was so easy why didn't anyone else even come close to his numbers? You have to compare to their peers in their time. The skaters were as limited as the goalies in their equipment. 2x4 s for sticks. Roller skates with a blade slapped on them. And on it goes. I WIlL say the goalies were smaller then.
Mcdavid shoot euuuuuhhh Gretzky Score! !!!!
Of course it was against philly
Gretzky has 5 goals in a game, John Scott has 5 in his career lmao
Ya lol
And Marty Mcsorley scored 359 points as an enforcer just shows you how much harder it is to score nowadays.
@@deletetruth8771 McSorley getting 359 points wasn't indicative of an enforcer's life in the NHL in those days. He was an enforcer playing with Wayne Gretzky. He had 68 points from 320 games without Gretzky as a teammate. 291 points from 641 games with Gretzky as a teammate. That's 0.45 points per game with Gretzky and 0.21 points per game without Gretzky. That's how great Gretzky was.
That might as well just be a cone in net
All of those goals would have went in on a modern goalie.
The Gretzky era coincided with the all time worst goaltending years in NHL history.
I disagree.
Then there should have been more players hitting his numbers. But where are they?
So the goalies were better before and after? How does that happen?
Yeah, but it was not a natural 5.