+LHudson TV And? These are re-enactors, they are not meant to kill each other, and no these people were not meant to fight like in the movie 300, theya actually fight in formations, which is realistic, this is the kind of phalanx in a smaller scale that would have been deployed into battle back in the day, their op for might have been a bunch of stone throwing monkeys but once again this is NOT meant to be a real battle of thousands of soldiers (believe it or not that's way too expensive) the only real difference is that hoplites back in the day would have had way more discipline but ONCE AGAIN, they are re-enactors, not professional soldiers.
What a sight a true phalanx in ancient times must have been! Great renditions from these reenactors. You can see the diversity and locality of ancient Greek soldiers. I wonder however if their dress was as short as many are wearing it in this reenactement. If I was a soldier back then, I'd want to have protection and warmth extending to my knees.
They did in fact have short dress, the reasons were because it’s hot in Greece and the shield covered down to their knees and they already had greaves covering their shins
+Blake.... I Like Hedgehogs.... I'm not sure what those eyes are, could be eagle's - the bird of Zeus but regardless - there really should be little owls on at least a few of the shields. If I was an Athenian, I'd paint the symbol of our eponymous goddess and the city itself on my aspis.
+Jay D'eath The groups came from around the world at two months notice, had one afternoons practice, with sharp ended spars and butt spikes it was safer not to be in close formation, The group that was to form the bulk of the Persian army pulled out on the eve of the battle when the other groups were already in transit. It was then impossible to find replacements
This was the first time these reenacters had come together, they come from U.K. Canada, Australia, U.S.A. France Spain, Greece, Italy, and had approx. 30 mins practice. If they had run from the start as was pondered the battle would have been over very quickly with only a very short show for the public. Help in depolyment ....well I am sure that has happened in many a battle
Widespread lack of shinguards is alarming. Not only were they essential in battle - but they come in very handy during re-enactments and sparring to prevent injuries. The shields and general outfits look beautiful though :D
It was a neat little demonstration If you consider that ordinary citizens don't get to see something like this too often, if at all. If you want it to seem more realistic, look up a picture of modern-day marathon ( or just picture it in your mind), then imagine somewhere around 10,000 Athenians holding off more than a hundred thousand Persian infantry and Immortals. Imagine the lake of blood on the ground, the terrifying howl of angry Greeks, the sound of spears crashing against bronze shields, and the completely unnatural smack of iron entering human flesh and bone. The horror of battle, REAL battle, is a ghostly concept that humans can never comprehend or recreate unless we experience it ourselves, and since ancient battles are ,well, ancient and cannot be experienced or recreated (especially with the number of actors it would take to do so), of course this reenactment is going to seem ridiculous. Sorry to preach, but take it as a preview of the real thing is my point.
I think it was between 20 to 30 thousand Persians, including cavalry- which was rendered useless by the terrain and Miltiades' deployment. .. (not 100-thousand. Don't take herodotus as factual/accurate). The Greek "pursuit" after the main battle would have more likely been a March in formation, an hour or two after the Persian retreat.
Historians debate the exact Persian number, and yes I exaggerated the number. Realistically your probably right of the fact that the greeks were outnumbered 2 to 1. I probably got lost in the descriptive writing. My mistake
By the way: your right about Herodotus. He did tend to exaggerate. I remember the story with the greek trying to hold a ship with his bare hands..only to have them chopped off
+Robert Staples I've read that the Greeks actually outnumbered the Persians at Marathon, and were mainly using bows. However their arrows couldn't penetrate Greek armor very well, so they were mostly killed retreating since their infantry was so lightly armed.
Drkon6 I don't believe that to be true. What's your source? All accounts I've ever seen support that the Athenians were outnumbered and Miltiades used the terrain and deployment to gain the advantage. As for the bows, The Persian Army standard deployment would've had their archers fire followed by their standard infantry + cavalry combo (Which they couldn't do because there was no room for the cavalry to attack the flanks).
It seems unfair the Persian in this reenactment are too few, imean it would looks like more "Marathon" if they was much more and run charge at the greek and making chaos. Anyway thanks for the video! It's Always nice to see reenactments. :)
Max The Gaming Man That's true' But is still too few Persians in this war' but of course' this is just reenactment not exactly history lesson. Atleast it's nice they show up the both sides of them in this battle :)
I read that there was supposed to be a large group from bulgaria that would be the persians in the recreation of the battle. But something happened to do with travel and they couldnt make it. when life gives you lemons i guess
+Blueguy85 Your comments are very true , it was left to the group from England with a few from the USA and Canada, It was only a few from England that had brought along their Persian Kit, The Bus transporting the Bulgarians broke don on the way
Probably one of the best recreations of a Greek phalanx I've yet seen! although I'm not sure the 4thC BC Thracian (bearded type) helmet would have been seen on the Battlefield at that time, made famous by the Macedonian army under King Phillip and later Alexander the great. Great vid thanks 👍❤️
+joaco the argentinian you are right they came from all over the world, UK, USA, France, Spain, Australia,Canada, Italy. It was all arranged in two months and one days training together on site
its so poor in quality because in Greece we can't have pride in our culture. Recent governments have made it very hard to learn unbiased history in the country and it is considered a sign of neo nazism to claim such things. A recent reinactment (summer 2016) was heavily critisized for being too backwards thinging and something unspeakable for a 21st century "progressive" country. And people wonder why the nation is full of shit
Contrary to what people would imagine, ancient Greek re-enactment is almost non-existing, medieval Greek (so-called Byzantine) re-enactment is in the sphere of Sci-Fi. Historical Greek re-enactment is at the level of 1-2% of the Roman re-enactment. For Roman historical representations you have 10s of 1000s of re-enactors, a whole market, they can set up whole camps with tents, ustensils and most often with high high historical accurace as much as it is possible. For ancient Greek re-enactment, and in spite of Greek hoplites actually being more popular than Roman legionaires among the general public including literature and films, there is no such market, a mere handful of re-enactors worldwide - probably you are watching here 90% of the world's hoplite re-enactors, LOL!
The guy at 1:17 feels suicidal coming like this to a battle where the enemy has arrows... This is the Athenian battle of Marathon not the 300 movie version of the Spartan battle in Thermopyles
People need to chill. Real hoplites would be required to train regularly per their city state's laws and would have yearly military exercises to maintain operational discipline. An actual phalanx was incredibly difficult to maintain and required skilled officers and experienced soldiers. These guys are re-enactors doing this on their own time out of a passion for history. Unless these guys all work as riot cops, I somehow doubt they would be able to bring the same level of cohesion and organization that an actual hoplite phalanx would have been able to bring
You are correct. The weekend was organised over a couple of months, and involving Reenactors from around the world. The first time these groups got together was the day before the reenactment. We all had slightly different ways of doing things and therefore it was good that we got that far in the time we had. It was a great weekend and we now have lifelong friends worldwide.
No I am not from Greece. There were some Greek reenactors there, however most came from other countries England, Canada, USA, Australia, Spain, France, Italy. Alas there were no Spartans at the battle of Marathon
that has many historical inaccuracies but since every one of you build your armor according to your will and not to this Re-enactment the only thing i got to say is well done. We need more of these ceremonies to honor those who died for Democracy and to inspire the young to follow them steps. Ανδρών Επιφανών Πάσα Γη Τάφος
So where’s the phalanx formation at ? And why are there clothing completely different colours ? The armour’s yes they painted and designed them differently but in a battle it would have got confusing.
Alexicles many people are hating on you but I bet if you had more materials and time to train this would be great because it seems you know a lot about Greek history because you knew the phalanx broke and there were no Spartans so I think this could have been great
Greeks didn't historically always have the same style of armor it could range from spolas(or linothorax if you prefer) to a bronze cuirass and different styles of helmets. Also the spolas could very from person to person as it could be different colors or have more rows of scales or different metal patterns on the cuirass
littleferrhis Yeah it was a citizen army so its not going to be 100 uniform but the basic dory, aspis, body armor, helmet are all there. I should point out tho that some of the hoplites were wearing armor or helmets from different periods. Also one is wearing a type of armor that is not known if it really existed
Miltiades was a hero and served his country well. On the other hand he was a ruthless dictator he made a coup in Cheronesus killed and imprisoned his opponents, he captured Lemnus by force and killed many and he also besieged Paros and killed many. He ended up dead in a prison cell.
Spartans or Greek warriors never walked backwards in phalanx cuz the purpose of it is to push the enemy back while providing cover and when shot at they just held there ground or lifted their shields up
I still won't be joining you, but good luck with it. May Zeus, Hermes, Hera, Poseidon, Hephaestus, Apollo, Aphrodite, Ares, Athena, Artemis, Demeter, Dionysus, Hestia and Hades help you in the battle.
Nice, but I don't think the Athenians, or at least the majority of them would have been wearing Corinthian helmets. Athenians had their own particular helmet.
What type did they have …… statues a vase paintings show Athenian hoplites with Corinthian helmets so it would be interesting to have your point of view and evidence
actually there were about 1400 Greeks fighting in the famous last stand 300 Spartans, 700 Thespians and 400 Thebans. the Thebans surrendered right away so there really was about 1000 Greeks that really fought about 300 000 Persians so it was still quite an amazing last stand.
Dear uploader,do you allow me to download the video and cut a few seconds out of it for a Historical Reenactment Compilation video Im, making? I will give you full credit in the description of the video.
Marathon = 9-11,000 Athenians. + 500 - few thousand allies. Persians = 10,000 - 50,000 (though some modern estimates put the persians at 10 - 100 thousand, that seems a bit excessive for me though).
It is a little silly, but the men who died at the real battle of Marathon would be pleased, i think, to know some still try to honour their sacrifice and remember them and what they did, even across the vast expanse of time that separates us. Plus its fun to dress up to.
Was it at Marathon where the Greeks formed the phalanx between 2 cliff faces and the hoplites in the centre of the phalanx began to walk back and the hoplites on the sides surrounded the Persians and slaughtered most of them?
at 5:13 i saw a pretty accurate armor...the Black-Yellow Hoplite woth the Yellow Pegasos. If i remember well this is from "logades" company the Athenian Elite army corp. But his helmet has many accesories as decoration , fact that ancients Corinthians did...do we have any info for this guy?
i am greek i can read and understand what my ancestors wrote with just my knowledge of modern greek, but it sure as hell is a pain in the ass to understand theyr spoken language...
They are just demonstrating an isolated point. The archers would in reality be further away with melee units to protect them. But they are using non-lethal bows, and the arrows will blow in the wind if you shot from a distance and they dont have enough people to demonstrate units.
Adding to what @ryukey just said, ideally, there should be Persian infantrymen in between the archers and the phalanx. I guess they just couldn´t gather enough Persian reenactors for this occassion.
Commander Panda Perhaps. Although, trying to play devil´s advocate, the regular Greek who doesn´t have that much a profound knowledge of antiquity battle formations got to enjoy many colorfoul hoplites, and perhaps liked it. Maybe it was the first time they tried this aswell, and organization failed them. I personally would like to have seen something like 2015´s Waterloo, but they have to start somewhere.
They're re-creationists and a lot of those people actually look rather slim. I'm involved in the SCA and many of us are pretty portly, at least in America.
the Athenian hoplites ran at the Persians at the battle of marathon it is understood that this was the first time this had happened. This was done to reduce the amount of time the Persians had to fire arrows at them. It would have been almost impossible to keep a correct phalanx during this. If you were retreating what would you do turn your undefended back?
The Americans present should have learned the commands in Greek, it's not like learning the basic marching commands would have been that difficult if you're going to journey all the way to the actual battle field and be visiting Greece. Still it's pretty cool that they got so many people to participate and commemorate the battle.
So that's why the Persians lost there was only 8 of them
lolllll
@Trollusing90sRules70sRules50sRules30sRulesFuck80s Chill out
You are god
@@ixthebest8325 There's only one God
@@thedarknutsackreturns431 Not in Sparta.
That line has zero discipline
Coz it's just enthusiastic history geeks with money
LePhantomChick N Yeah, money indeed. That line looks like a gathering of high ranking officers... Who have zero discipline.
Now they a just lazy greeks not a soldiers
Marcin Żochowski, and not a romans after all
Of course, this is just a re-enactment.
The shields look so great
this nice
Sounds like ancient Greek helicopter in the background. :)
😂😂
Lol
yes its the famous mystic and hidden technology of the ancient greeks. Helicopters and the Thrown Musaka
Gyrocopter:)
@@nicschintee1511 Gotta love them Gyros. Lamb's my favorite.
Haha imagine if the actual guys that fought in that war could see this video
they would probably be like wtf
Mainly at the shirtless guy
+LHudson TV Imagine if ancient civilizations saw modern hollywood
movies depicting them
+LHudson TV And? These are re-enactors, they are not meant to kill each other, and no these people were not meant to fight like in the movie 300, theya actually fight in formations, which is realistic, this is the kind of phalanx in a smaller scale that would have been deployed into battle back in the day, their op for might have been a bunch of stone throwing monkeys but once again this is NOT meant to be a real battle of thousands of soldiers (believe it or not that's way too expensive) the only real difference is that hoplites back in the day would have had way more discipline but ONCE AGAIN, they are re-enactors, not professional soldiers.
Talk about jumping to your own skewered conclusion from what I said...when did I say or insinuate this should be like a real battle?
What a sight a true phalanx in ancient times must have been! Great renditions from these reenactors. You can see the diversity and locality of ancient Greek soldiers. I wonder however if their dress was as short as many are wearing it in this reenactement. If I was a soldier back then, I'd want to have protection and warmth extending to my knees.
They did in fact have short dress, the reasons were because it’s hot in Greece and the shield covered down to their knees and they already had greaves covering their shins
Not a single shield with an owl on it?!
At the battle of Marathon?!
+Blake.... I Like Hedgehogs.... I'm not sure what those eyes are, could be eagle's - the bird of Zeus but regardless - there really should be little owls on at least a few of the shields. If I was an Athenian, I'd paint the symbol of our eponymous goddess and the city itself on my aspis.
+Matt Jones THIS IS MADNESS!
+Da magpie it's definitely not Sparta or Athens. Lol
Matt Jones THIS IS...... umm what is it
Da magpie Nonsense! *kicks man into pit*
one thing i will say, the outfit the greeks have look very nice
Elliot Nikols How so?
Elliot Nikols I see what you mean.
Man outfit with an armor is the best outfit for a man
I can see why this version of 300 wasn't put in theaters
@supreme leader salty starfish NERD
lol
Because this isnt thermopylae. This is marathon.
@@lephantomchickn3676 if you didnt know that, that doesnt make him a nerd. It makes you an uneducated troll living in his mom's basement.
@@nebulametal1543 Jeez! cool your jets
12:21 "Retreat, were under Heavy fire! Ones throwing rocks and the other two are barely missing!"
+Jay D'eath
The groups came from around the world at two months notice, had one afternoons practice, with sharp ended spars and butt spikes it was safer not to be in close formation, The group that was to form the bulk of the Persian army pulled out on the eve of the battle when the other groups were already in transit. It was then impossible to find replacements
@@Alexicles That's such a trash thing to do! Suddenly pulling out from a planned event, I mean.
Oh well. I reckon you guys did well still.
They couldn’t use real slingers or archers with real arrows because someone could get seriously hurt or killed
honestly, that was a great reenactment. I love how the Greek hoplites look.
So when greeks fought persians in the beach of marathon, there were people who were bathing near there
Yes of corse dumb ass 😂just kidding
I believe this is an accurate depiction of the Battle of Marathon.
Right, sure it is with the 30 guys, background noises, and swimmers. Also these guys all Put together their attire a bit too independently.
@@lephantomchickn3676 r/woosh
@@joelciantar347 Boi I'm not tryna be a stick in the mud, just making a joke, but not clearly enough it seems
Indeed! Its as if ive been transported back to antiquity to witness the events unfold before my eyes!
This wasn’t a historical movie?
This was the first time these reenacters had come together, they come from U.K. Canada, Australia, U.S.A. France Spain, Greece, Italy, and had approx. 30 mins practice. If they had run from the start as was pondered the battle would have been over very quickly with only a very short show for the public.
Help in depolyment ....well I am sure that has happened in many a battle
Widespread lack of shinguards is alarming. Not only were they essential in battle - but they come in very handy during re-enactments and sparring to prevent injuries.
The shields and general outfits look beautiful though :D
It was a neat little demonstration If you consider that ordinary citizens don't get to see something like this too often, if at all. If you want it to seem more realistic, look up a picture of modern-day marathon ( or just picture it in your mind), then imagine somewhere around 10,000 Athenians holding off more than a hundred thousand Persian infantry and Immortals. Imagine the lake of blood on the ground, the terrifying howl of angry Greeks, the sound of spears crashing against bronze shields, and the completely unnatural smack of iron entering human flesh and bone. The horror of battle, REAL battle, is a ghostly concept that humans can never comprehend or recreate unless we experience it ourselves, and since ancient battles are ,well, ancient and cannot be experienced or recreated (especially with the number of actors it would take to do so), of course this reenactment is going to seem ridiculous. Sorry to preach, but take it as a preview of the real thing is my point.
I think it was between 20 to 30 thousand Persians, including cavalry- which was rendered useless by the terrain and Miltiades' deployment. .. (not 100-thousand. Don't take herodotus as factual/accurate). The Greek "pursuit" after the main battle would have more likely been a March in formation, an hour or two after the Persian retreat.
Historians debate the exact Persian number, and yes I exaggerated the number. Realistically your probably right of the fact that the greeks were outnumbered 2 to 1. I probably got lost in the descriptive writing. My mistake
By the way: your right about Herodotus. He did tend to exaggerate. I remember the story with the greek trying to hold a ship with his bare hands..only to have them chopped off
+Robert Staples I've read that the Greeks actually outnumbered the Persians at Marathon, and were mainly using bows. However their arrows couldn't penetrate Greek armor very well, so they were mostly killed retreating since their infantry was so lightly armed.
Drkon6 I don't believe that to be true. What's your source? All accounts I've ever seen support that the Athenians were outnumbered and Miltiades used the terrain and deployment to gain the advantage. As for the bows, The Persian Army standard deployment would've had their archers fire followed by their standard infantry + cavalry combo (Which they couldn't do because there was no room for the cavalry to attack the flanks).
1:33 The Greeks of that time would have confused that vehicle for a mythological beast lol
Might be a Chariot of the Gods
They would have painted it onto their shields.
oh gods this is an embarasment to Ares
lol
Bruh
God
Only one God
FULLARMOR PLATED lol?
@@thedarknutsackreturns431 Christian getting big boi mad about a joke
It seems unfair the Persian in this reenactment are too few, imean it would looks like more "Marathon" if they was much more and run charge at the greek and making chaos. Anyway thanks for the video! It's Always nice to see reenactments. :)
well basically that's how the Athenians won the battle, they just charged at the Persians
Max The Gaming Man That's true' But is still too few Persians in this war' but of course' this is just reenactment not exactly history lesson. Atleast it's nice they show up the both sides of them in this battle :)
I read that there was supposed to be a large group from bulgaria that would be the persians in the recreation of the battle.
But something happened to do with travel and they couldnt make it.
when life gives you lemons i guess
Blueguy85 Well that explain why there was so few of them' Well best wishes for those guys in next time then! :)
+Blueguy85
Your comments are very true , it was left to the group from England with a few from the USA and Canada, It was only a few from England that had brought along their Persian Kit, The Bus transporting the Bulgarians broke don on the way
Best backdrop to to a reenactment ever! Superb - thanks for this.
Persians be like, " At Least we didn't look bad as we did in 490BC. And the Greeks start crying.
Look bad? Are you blind??? The Greeks Look BADASS !!!
Probably one of the best recreations of a Greek phalanx I've yet seen! although I'm not sure the 4thC BC Thracian (bearded type) helmet would have been seen on the Battlefield at that time, made famous by the Macedonian army under King Phillip and later Alexander the great. Great vid thanks 👍❤️
this is a very poor re-enactment..
+Huginn & Muninn Well its hard to find and coordinate enought people to properly re-enact such event.
+Huginn & Muninn and of course you have all the kit etc to make a better one
+joaco the argentinian you are right they came from all over the world, UK, USA, France, Spain, Australia,Canada, Italy. It was all arranged in two months and one days training together on site
its so poor in quality because in Greece we can't have pride in our culture. Recent governments have made it very hard to learn unbiased history in the country and it is considered a sign of neo nazism to claim such things. A recent reinactment (summer 2016) was heavily critisized for being too backwards thinging and something unspeakable for a 21st century "progressive" country. And people wonder why the nation is full of shit
Contrary to what people would imagine, ancient Greek re-enactment is almost non-existing, medieval Greek (so-called Byzantine) re-enactment is in the sphere of Sci-Fi. Historical Greek re-enactment is at the level of 1-2% of the Roman re-enactment. For Roman historical representations you have 10s of 1000s of re-enactors, a whole market, they can set up whole camps with tents, ustensils and most often with high high historical accurace as much as it is possible. For ancient Greek re-enactment, and in spite of Greek hoplites actually being more popular than Roman legionaires among the general public including literature and films, there is no such market, a mere handful of re-enactors worldwide - probably you are watching here 90% of the world's hoplite re-enactors, LOL!
The guy at 1:17 feels suicidal coming like this to a battle where the enemy has arrows... This is the Athenian battle of Marathon not the 300 movie version of the Spartan battle in Thermopyles
lmao spartans didnt be shirtless, they wore linthorax or a breastplate in case of royal spartans
People need to chill. Real hoplites would be required to train regularly per their city state's laws and would have yearly military exercises to maintain operational discipline. An actual phalanx was incredibly difficult to maintain and required skilled officers and experienced soldiers.
These guys are re-enactors doing this on their own time out of a passion for history. Unless these guys all work as riot cops, I somehow doubt they would be able to bring the same level of cohesion and organization that an actual hoplite phalanx would have been able to bring
You are correct. The weekend was organised over a couple of months, and involving Reenactors from around the world. The first time these groups got together was the day before the reenactment. We all had slightly different ways of doing things and therefore it was good that we got that far in the time we had.
It was a great weekend and we now have lifelong friends worldwide.
*"SPARTANS, WHAT IS YOUR PROFESSION!?"*
This Battle Of Marathon re-enactment proves that men wearing mini skirts can defeat men wearing pajamas.
Girls on the weekends: let's go get drunk and wasted!
Boys on the weekends: FULL PHALANX
Oh, Greece. A beautiful land!
Geographically, yes. Societally? No
@@Calilou52 Yes! Beautiful Culture!!! 🇬🇷
This is awesome !!!! Thank you so much for video
Μαραθώνας , η μάχη που άλλαξε το ρου της ιστορίας !!!
Ah yes, put distance between you and the archers.
That purple Persian looks like he is in pyjamas 😂
Good point, in fact The Pyjama is a Persian word named after one of their inventions (search it up)
Nice footage,it has ancient atmosphere.
Greeks had the first style punk haircuts in their helmets !!!
They look gorgeous!
The actual guys who fought in Marathon would be rolling in their graves
are u from greece ? cause in 2:55 i heard that one ... ''apo dexia moo'' that in the greeks mean from my right
No I am not from Greece. There were some Greek reenactors there, however most came from other countries England, Canada, USA, Australia, Spain, France, Italy. Alas there were no Spartans at the battle of Marathon
At a certain point, I'd be like "Fuck this, I'm going to enjoy that water. See ya!"
this took place on the beach where the last part of the battle of Marathon took place 2500 years before, 26 mile from Athens
Great impression the Groups make a lot of work to bring History becomes real.
Did they have dart arrows or blunt metal ones? And we're those slingers or were they just throwing rocks?
Probably blunt arrows and they were throwing rocks
φοβερη δουλεια...οποιοι και να σκεφτηκαν ειναι γαματοι συνεχιστε ετσι
0:56 dang I really want the helmet that that guy is wearing, the guy with the double red-plumed helmet with gold armor and a face on his shield
that has many historical inaccuracies but since every one of you build your armor according to your will and not to this Re-enactment the only thing i got to say is well done. We need more of these ceremonies to honor those who died for Democracy and to inspire the young to follow them steps.
Ανδρών Επιφανών Πάσα Γη Τάφος
I love the shields. I also love that little girl in the yellow dress, she's cute.
So where’s the phalanx formation at ? And why are there clothing completely different colours ? The armour’s yes they painted and designed them differently but in a battle it would have got confusing.
And yes it was …… there was no regular uniform at the time …except for the Spartans…. But they were not at the battle of Marathon
So beautiful!😍
How did they get video of this battle? It was, like, 2500 years ago, right?
i didn't know there was a battle of marathon in 2011
Ahh yes, the battle of marathon, where 30 greeks, beat 10 out of shape persians...
I'm going to be a hoplite when I grow up! :D
Most hoplite helmets were used to intimidate, Alas there were no spartans at the battle of Marathon
Alexicles many people are hating on you but I bet if you had more materials and time to train this would be great because it seems you know a lot about Greek history because you knew the phalanx broke and there were no Spartans so I think this could have been great
Some of them dont have shin guards. Hoplites travel alot imagine hitting your shin on a rock...
The fact the Greeks were so advanced they got to the battle in a Toyota Yaris tells you all you need to know....
This looks more like a laarp than a reenactment, they need to at least wear the same uniforms for me to believe that this is even a reenactment.
Greeks didn't historically always have the same style of armor it could range from spolas(or linothorax if you prefer) to a bronze cuirass and different styles of helmets. Also the spolas could very from person to person as it could be different colors or have more rows of scales or different metal patterns on the cuirass
Still they should look unified by some part of the uniform or else they look like a thrown together army(but then again they kind of were)
littleferrhis Yeah it was a citizen army so its not going to be 100 uniform but the basic dory, aspis, body armor, helmet are all there. I should point out tho that some of the hoplites were wearing armor or helmets from different periods. Also one is wearing a type of armor that is not known if it really existed
ok
Idk it just feels like larp. Just in terms of how small it looks for everyone but the reenactors themselves. It just gives me the feeling of a larp.
ONE OF MY FAVORITE AUTHORS, Christian Cameron WAS HERE!!! WHICH ONE IS HE??
What kind of iintrument is being played?
Miltiades was a hero and served his country well. On the other hand he was a ruthless dictator he made a coup in Cheronesus killed and imprisoned his opponents, he captured Lemnus by force and killed many and he also besieged Paros and killed many. He ended up dead in a prison cell.
Spartans or Greek warriors never walked backwards in phalanx cuz the purpose of it is to push the enemy back while providing cover and when shot at they just held there ground or lifted their shields up
SSmp Spartans Are Greeks, it's the same
Hey, is the first guy with the bright red shield and a bronze raven, Mr. Christian Cameron? I remember he has a shield like that.
Delios from 300 movie: The enemy outnumber us!
sparta: haha, yea...
It is not the same battle 😂😂😂this was a reenactment of the battle of Marathon not thermopali
I still won't be joining you, but good luck with it.
May Zeus, Hermes, Hera, Poseidon, Hephaestus, Apollo, Aphrodite, Ares, Athena, Artemis, Demeter, Dionysus, Hestia and Hades help you in the battle.
This makes me wanna see an actually organised phalanx
Where did that event take place?
Nice, but I don't think the Athenians, or at least the majority of them would have been wearing Corinthian helmets. Athenians had their own particular helmet.
What type did they have …… statues a vase paintings show Athenian hoplites with Corinthian helmets so it would be interesting to have your point of view and evidence
actually there were about 1400 Greeks fighting in the famous last stand 300 Spartans, 700 Thespians and 400 Thebans. the Thebans surrendered right away so there really was about 1000 Greeks that really fought about 300 000 Persians so it was still quite an amazing last stand.
thos helmets with the side crest are a fucking bad ass look, I wold proudly die wearing that
The 1000 greeks retreated when Xerxes flanked the position, the 300 spartans stayed behind to cover their retreat.
I love this historical footage!
Ahura Mazda will kill them for this "historical rappresentation".
What nation are this guys Athens,Sparta wich nation it wuld be better if this guys turnd around and march strait beck where they came from.
Well you got me there. Though the difference is, is that it wasn't compulsory in the Persian military.
if a spartan left the line they are instantly court marshelled
Perhaps true …. But there were no Spartans at the battle of Marathon
So you will be joining us next time to increase the numbers??????
Someone put up a plaque that says 'on this day absolutely nothing happened'.
Dear uploader,do you allow me to download the video and cut a few seconds out of it for a Historical Reenactment Compilation video Im, making? I will give you full credit in the description of the video.
Still waiting on that response I see
@@pocketman5510 give him time to think about it
I've been looking everywhere online for the linothorax armor
Marathon =
9-11,000 Athenians.
+ 500 - few thousand allies.
Persians = 10,000 - 50,000 (though some modern estimates put the persians at 10 - 100 thousand, that seems a bit excessive for me though).
Well, I must say that they had some good costumes.
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It is a little silly, but the men who died at the real battle of Marathon would be pleased, i think, to know some still try to honour their sacrifice and remember them and what they did, even across the vast expanse of time that separates us. Plus its fun to dress up to.
Was it at Marathon where the Greeks formed the phalanx between 2 cliff faces and the hoplites in the centre of the phalanx began to walk back and the hoplites on the sides surrounded the Persians and slaughtered most of them?
1:06 those 2 guys would definitely destroy in a battle
They should have a battle with equal numbers against each cultures ancient warrior like legionaries vs hoplites 30 vs 30 maybe?
at 5:13 i saw a pretty accurate armor...the Black-Yellow Hoplite woth the Yellow Pegasos. If i remember well this is from "logades" company the Athenian Elite army corp. But his helmet has many accesories as decoration , fact that ancients Corinthians did...do we have any info for this guy?
i am greek i can read and understand what my ancestors wrote with just my knowledge of modern greek, but it sure as hell is a pain in the ass to understand theyr spoken language...
What was the battle of marathon?
I would like to know more about the girl asking 'am I flashing everybody?' at the very end of the video. For research purposes of course.
12:10
*1 guy gets hit in the shin*
*Phalanx breaks*
Whats stopping the shield wall from just charging the archers? They would instantly overwhelm them..
They are just demonstrating an isolated point. The archers would in reality be further away with melee units to protect them. But they are using non-lethal bows, and the arrows will blow in the wind if you shot from a distance and they dont have enough people to demonstrate units.
Adding to what @ryukey just said, ideally, there should be Persian infantrymen in between the archers and the phalanx. I guess they just couldn´t gather enough Persian reenactors for this occassion.
Richardsen Seems kinda redundant to even bother with this type of battle then wouldn't it? Why not enact something more fitting of the circumstances?
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Perhaps. Although, trying to play devil´s advocate, the regular Greek who doesn´t have that much a profound knowledge of antiquity battle formations got to enjoy many colorfoul hoplites, and perhaps liked it.
Maybe it was the first time they tried this aswell, and organization failed them. I personally would like to have seen something like 2015´s Waterloo, but they have to start somewhere.
They're re-creationists and a lot of those people actually look rather slim. I'm involved in the SCA and many of us are pretty portly, at least in America.
the Athenian hoplites ran at the Persians at the battle of marathon it is understood that this was the first time this had happened. This was done to reduce the amount of time the Persians had to fire arrows at them. It would have been almost impossible to keep a correct phalanx during this. If you were retreating what would you do turn your undefended back?
For a second, I thought it was real life and then I saw a Yaris..
He is the first Hoplite after the Persians at approx. 2.22 Red Aspis ( shield ) with the golden bird
he is a French reenactor
The Americans present should have learned the commands in Greek, it's not like learning the basic marching commands would have been that difficult if you're going to journey all the way to the actual battle field and be visiting Greece. Still it's pretty cool that they got so many people to participate and commemorate the battle.
The only problem being, of course, that the Spartans weren't at Marathon.
whats the name of the ancient flute music anyway i can find it?