Continental Airlines 1987 Retrospective
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2014
- New York Air Merged into Continental as part of the consolidation of several airlines under the Texas Air Corporation umbrella, which aimed to create a more competitive and comprehensive network.
People Express - This was a significant merger as People Express was one of the largest low-cost carriers at the time. The merger allowed Continental to significantly expand its route network and customer base.
Frontier Airlines - The original Frontier Airlines was absorbed into Continental, which helped Continental increase its presence in the western United States and gain access to new markets.
These mergers were part of Continental's strategy to overcome financial challenges and position itself as a major player in the airline industry. They also led to operational and fleet integration challenges that Continental worked through in the subsequent years.
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I worked in Reservations in Denver from May 1985 until I quit the airline in May 1994. The wages during this time were so low it literally ruined my life financially. Now United Continental Holdings are finally paying more than $25 an hour to Reservation Agents. I started at $5.77 an hour in May 1985 and when I quit in May 1994 I was earning $8.48 an hour. 9 years of my life was wasted on low wages. In 1988. I was one of the top 10 Reservation Agents out of about 5,000 Reservation Agents. In 2019, I finally own a home and I am retired. I went to the hotel industry and earned twice the money in less time then working for Continental Airlines. Thank you for the memories.
Lorenzo took Continental from being the Rolls-Royce of world air carriers into the VW of airlines literally overnight. We flight attendants had our salaries slashed by 62% in one day when he abrogated the union contracts back in '83. All the fine china, cutlery, and our 5-star inflight food service...literally trashed, thrown out, and gone with the wind. The years following were very hard, especially on us long-time employees. Our pride in our company had been crushed. But, by God's grace, I made it through to 38 years in the air and when I retired in 1992, I could sense that things were going to get better. Many CO employees felt badly that Eastern Airlines was slowly being dismantled for the benefit of CO. But, there wasn't anything that we could do about it. In essence, two once-great airlines died ---- the old, original Continental, the "Proud Bird With The Golden Tail", and Eastern Airlines, the "Wings of Man". No wonder Lorenzo is forever barred from owning a commercial airline entity again. Enjoyed the video, nevertheless.
Great info. Thanks. Continental did eventually recover and had very high customer satisfaction rates. Unfortunately, United bought them out and service is once again sketchy. I miss those continental planes.
What the fuck has happened to American aviation? Flying has been relegated to taking a Greyhound bus in the skies. 😢😢
Justin Hopkins United didn't buy them out Continental did because United went bankrupt. Everything from continental was the same when they merged as continental took over United. The only thing that changed was their name
Angeelo Gov You're right. I mixed it up.
@@angelog4150 So, you're saying that those United birds currently flying around the world are actually Continental still? Then why did CAL adopt the UAL brand name? It makes the average layperson like me believe that CAL is a defunct company. I'm confused. Help me 😰
My affection for air travel by any airline is purely nostalgic.
Conti was the ONLY airline that would allow my mother to fly with her advanced condition of pancreatic cancer and treated her with kindness after being treated unsuccessfully in NYC, from Newark to Fort Myers fulfilling her desire to die in Punta Gorda with our family present. God bless the old Continental Airlines and my eternal thanks and appreciation.
PÓS Lorenzo ...he ran both EASTERN AIRLINES & CONTINENTAL AIRLINES into the ground for his profit, I worked at both, and at Eastern I wasn’t paid for the last 4 weeks I had worked there, the airlines used to be a sought after job, not anymore, Lorenzo can take the credit for ruining the industry
Ironically, Lorenzo was originally against deregulation...
I miss the old Frontier. When I was a teenager living in Colorado, me and my pals flew the Convair 580's all over western Colorado to ski. They served many communities that had high altitude airports and low population density. One of my flights to Gunnison I sat next to Kenny Rogers when he was with the First Edition. They were on their way to perform at Western State College. He and his band performed for the passengers and sang "Ruby Don't Take Your Love to Town" which was on the charts at the time. Talk about fun times.
I used to fly those 580's before I went to Eastern.
Cool piece of Continental Airlines history. Frank Lorenzo is still a scum-bag though.
Oh- he certaintly is!
That SORRY SOB Lorenzo!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you still have your cessna 180 ? its very nice little video you made
its not team work its called the continental people who made this the best damn ever .long live the proud bird with the golden tale
4:02 IBM PS/2 machines and the VGA display standard were brand new in 1987. They must've felt and looked so modern back then.,
Darren Reynard, Thanks for the memories. Started with CAL inflight back in 1987, despite the name change now, always Continental at heart.
No problem 😁 glad you enjoyed. Forever Continental! I started in 1990 and still work in CLE.... For now
I started with CAL in 1963 in LA. Thanks for the memories.
Aloha Lin...EX CAL. FA
In 1987 I flew Continental from Austin to LAX for $49 each way, complete with an in-flight meal.
Frank Lorenzo. One of worst CEOs ever. My dad worked for them during this time (and beyond). He ended up with no pension, thanks to this man, and his robbing of the employees pensions during the bankruptcy despite working for the airline for over 20 years.
I was a Eastern employie for 21 years,Lorenzo gutted the company and the pension fund then closed the doors.He is a sorry SOB!
@@schnellguy I grew up in Miami, my neighbor flew for Eastern. When I moved to NY and going home on holidays - I always flew on Eastern "The Wings of Man"
It was a game of Musical Chairs that forced the decision for Continental to go with United. Delta had already merged with Northwest, and American had merged with US Airways. The writing was not only on the wall, but there was only a 6% overlap redundancy in the two airline's route structure, which was phenomenal. The United name and signage were better known worldwide, but Continental's service was superior by far. It was hard to swallow the United name for the Continental folks at the time of the merger (2010). The attitude at CAL was sunny and positive and get the job done right; UAL's attitude was to cancel as many flights as possible and head for the hotel -- who cares about the paying customers? That is not every UAL employee, but too many of them. That attitude would NEVER have been tolerated at CAL -- by the employees! If you've ever merged with a bad-attitude group, it's always a matter of if you will raise them up or will they bring you down. The years following the merger were filled with that struggle. I hope it's been resolved by now.
Bring back the 80's !
If only we could!
In the '80s, United & Continental separated after conflict at Denver. Years later, they went back to dating where they got engaged, and married October 1st, 2010. #october1st
Warren Wooding COA [Continental Airlines] is so much better than UAL [United Airlines].
Scott Roth wring. United was way better
Awesome thanks for the memories!!!
Glad you enjoyed
Thanks for the upload and archive for Continental Airlines. Do I remember these events coming out of high school with Continental, Eastern, etc....... It had me rethinking a career with the airlines seeing the constant turmoil of the era. Looking back, wow!!!! These professionals have been through so much upheavals. Gordon Bethune turned Continental around to eventually leadership took over United to form the new United. What a wild wide that came full circle historically! Thanks for the memories.
You're welcome! It's fun to look back at this history. I'm about to hit my 30 year anniversary in a few days at CO/UA.
Sir, you have my respect!!!! What a remarkable accomplishment to see. Both Continental and United have personal histories for me.
Enjoyed Air Continental service.
Deregulation was mishandled (I believe purposely) by the U.S. government. It essentially forced all legacy carriers to slash and burn costs almost overnight, including salaries and pensions, in an effort to ward off new low-cost entrants. Instead, the government should have eased into this new frontier to allow legacy carriers enough time to adjust. For example, legacy carriers could've kept existing employees at or near pre-regulation salaries/benefits, and lowered these disbursements over an adjustment period for new employees.
And who knew years later Continental & United would come together as Continental/United Holdings after the merger.
Your Hero; Lorenzo
Obviously this was meant for "internal" purposes. BUT, now who OWNS Continental? United!!
its the opposite sir … cash wise, united bought them but running the airline are continental people, the ceo is Jeffery A. Smisek, formerely contintenal ceo
Lorenzo should have undergone a public castration!!!!!!
No the lives that were lost is what achieved this!
Thanks to “Frankie Smooth Talk” this is the first video on RUclips that literally smells.
I forgot Lewis Jordan was in a senior position there during the 'cleanup'.
CONTINENTAL AIRLINES COMMERCIAL FROM 1987 1:47
CONTINENTAL AIRLINES COMMERCIAL FROM 1987 1:47
Hundred of scab pilots at Continental during this era. They’d do anything for Frank Lorenzo and worked for peanuts. That’s why they felt they needed to hit the pilot’s union.
Jack London said it right
Feldman did not "auger in" ... right? Lorenzo? right? "W"? right? North? ... right. And, the cabin crew pouncer at KMAF and KLBB was W. too. FYI - it's not rumor, but rather, fact. Sorry - I don't what to do with it except let y'all know what went down at LAX 10/80. Feldman didn't "auger in". I was a Port Security Agent for the USCG/LAX and this is true. I was also employed at CAL Sat.6 and, later, OCP, .LAXFPCO. It was a mafia deal and ... sadly, remains covered up. Took us a while to figure it out. And no, this is neither prank nor joke. I have DD-214 problems along with 600k other service treated sans honor and rather shabily by the JAGs and government.
New York Air was a fine airline. Frank's big error in not keeping it separate. AND in buying Eastern.
Was Conti the Flight Attendents close to her name? the Whatever Lady that everyone was saying the Whatever lady the Whatever Lady, Connie?
Proud bird with the brass ass!
I am sorry because was because of lack of safety at Stapleton Denver International airport
I flew this airline a few times with family. The last was such a horrible experience that my mom and I refused to do so ever again. They lost my luggage and basically didn't give a crap.
They got rid of The Pub and installed more seats packing us hapless passengers in like sardines
Great airline destroyed by United !!
you "do" realize continental bought united … not the other way around?
@@adsmith122 Yeah, that is the whole sad irony, "Slimesek" (aka Mr FLIBS "Frank Lorenzo In A Better Suit") sold CO down to the river to broken down UA, giving the world the impression through smoke-n-mirrors that it was the other way around. Now we have a carrier that carries the UA brand, moved the HQ from low tax, business-friendly Texas to the corrupt and practically bankrupt, Socialist experiment, business-hostile, crime-ridden city of Chicago, UA crews get the best of everything, hours, routes, etc... while CO (EX-Cons) get the shaft.
Yeah, who owns who....?
@AD Smith Wrong! UAL Corp bought Continental Airlines Inc for $3.17 billion in an all-stock deal. Get your facts straight
AD Smith you are correct because when United was having problems with money, they started having negotiations first with continental, but continental didn’t buy United at first so US airways started negotiations but continental came back and said yes to buying United.
Great airline destroyed by Lorenzo.
I loved Frontier and Continental out of Denver before FL screwed them both up, paying people pennies. I was not a United fan. “Hub losing $36 million a month” was that Newark or Denver?
Lorenzo and Ichan the WORST!!!; DESTROYED AIRLINES AND MORAL AND FAMILY
What was minimum wage in 1987?
I couldn't get past halfway thru this video! All the good things in this video that happened to Continental were at the expense of Eastern Airlines. Routes, hubs, System One were all stolen away for baby Continental. No wonder they grew. And yes, I used to fly for Eastern!
Cry me a River...
Yep. And then CO ruined UA
This is Janeva Scofield I'm 53 and having flashbacks and freaked out because I have a maniquine with no legs and green eyes with marker a green tear? Oh that's so horrifying, because that body type is what you look like when your cause of death is not Froze to death, but petrified in fear and should be TREATED as in RESPECTED as petrified Forest in Arizona! Should be, if they are not, I demand it! Someone better do something I'm having flashbacks and it's all bad! Horrifically bad!
Was this a staff video.
Yes it was.
I did not just hear that! Who is the Whatever, Lady? She was NOT JUST A Stewardess! I thing I was in the cargo hold of the 1987 Contenintal airlines flight that crash. That's maybe where I was seated. Did I know my cousin Leon SCOFIELD The pilot, if he was the Pilot of this plane crash because they changed the names of everyone or not? Were they all employees or family of employees of Continental Airline's Staff ? I don't know why I'm thinking strange words that came later in life or something
LORENZO MAY BE THE BIGGEST WEASEL OF ALL TIME - in the industry anyway. I hated seeing him at LAX when he came through ops.
fyi - Al Feldman didn't auger in.
James Waters Frank killed Al’s child so what could Al do but sadly what he did.
I have information that suggests that Al Feldman's death wasn't a suicide. Eastern's shuttle ultimately became the Trump Shuttle after Lorenzo's march across the skies, a la Sherman, was followed on in to centralize corporate power in the nation. Ebbers with WorldCom was part of that and he went to the penalty box.
I WAS BORN THE YR THIS VIDEO WAS MADE
The ugly sweater of corporate pop songs plays at the end. An early forerunner to Everything Is Awesome.
What a shame Continental couldn't stand alone.They were once the very best.Becoming United was awful for them,I miss the proud bird!
funny how united tried to take continental's business and they have merged funny how time goes by
NOT FUNNY THEY STOLE TWO LIVERIES FROM UNITED AIRLINES
THEY LITTERLY ROBBED THE BATTLESHIP GREY, AND THE RAINBOW LIVERLY
How FUNNY do you think it is when Un-tidy Airlines steals the current Continental livery, erases its name, and slaps its own on all the aircraft and then Un-tidy Airlines instills its own millennia-long horrible inflight service to boot!! "Fly the Friendly Skies of Un-tidy"....... I THINK NOT!!
sandiegotrojandawg no I'm serious >:(
sandiegotrojandawg U DO KNOW THAT CONTINENTAL MANAGEMENT TOOK OVER UNITED RIGHT? United didn't steal the continental livery, Continental bought United. United is continental just with a different name. United was the one that died.
CAL did not buy UAL. You got that backwards. We DID bring the CAL CEO over, but he ended up being a crook so we fired him.
"Texas Air's System One" uh no, you mean Eastern's System One which Frank Lorenzo stole...
Lorenzo took the carriers he took over from being solid performers to being the yugo's of the airline industry. EA, CO, NY were the 3 that really were ground down to a nub. I recall FA's for CO and EA had uniforms when Lorenzo took over that was just basic shells without any form of lining in the jackets. Sort of reminded me of wearing a potato bag. Really needed to be a lot more regulation about mergers of the airlines back then and still today. Having the CO/UA merger was perhaps the worst marriage of networks. I can't say how many times the flight network of UA has just ground to a stop, funny thing it's almost always ORD! What were they thinking? Besides Lorenzo, AA is the killer of airlines as well absorbing HP, US, into the AA group. But, in their merger and merger and wouldn't have everything solved when they just "did it" America West, Piedmont, USAir merged to US Airways, but it took them 3 years after the merger to actually get a single operating cert. Yet, FA's were all scheduled in their own systems and remained in those systems until recently (2 decades later)
I keep calling my second grade other best friend Danielle Nicholas my second grade because she skipped second grade we all met in third grade at cherry drive Elementary School Northglenn. Two of my best friends in second grade were second graders in third grade and Leslie Porter was Best friends with Danielle when they skipped second grade because if this 1987 plane crash otherwise neither Daniel or I would be AT one time heroin addicts, I became one in 2018 forced to ONLY because two weeks screaming in bathtub passing kidney Stones because I said no ahd an undercover CIA or DEA tell fire Dept Michael Shane Stout is China White Colorado. Stout told Janeva tell karma Leann Jones who I know changed his name he says from George Nelson Jones Junior to karma LeAnn Jones from Wilcox Arizona, tried to kill me three times in 2018!
Before the obesity, tattoo and lumberjack beard epidemics.
This was the most boring airline company video. I suspect only former employees have come to watch.
its fucking 1987 it aint 2017 when this vid came
United Airlines is the worst thing that ever happened to Continental and the traveling public.
It was a marketing thing! Hey yo dude guess who? it's the thing . I am not a thing, thank you very much! Yes I am a person . No I am not a person place or thing. No I am not a noun. Wait am I a noun? Okay yes I am a person I am a human being, is a noun a preposition? I am the pilots kid cousin. No we are Not kissing Cousins even in emergency situation to save most lives not in any situation not in any thing for any reason will I lie about what happened if I can keep " whatever lady" not a female from evaporating my brain.was not pilot erro, becau I said he was going to be so sorry he said that. Because t in any situation. cousinonly I was not petrified in fear as those who did not freeze to death. Yes I imagine the employees were embarrassed , the proud bird you use to be before you did the crash because of so little money but expensive to fly and it seems horrific but was because employees took pay cuts and not employee owned they did that because the lives lost and knew someday people will understand it was so much the lack of safety at airports, so that's what it was ABOUT! But because I was on that flight they told Pilot and me when was enough time to safe at least as many as were saved, and I still don't know if they saved my cousin Leon SCOFIELD the pilot, because he maybe froze to death and he was just like he was in his seat but stiff. Others were... what happened to their coats?
The entire video makes Continental look pathetic and accentuates that it had been an extraordinarily problematic airline.
+Gary Clement At least they could admit they sucked, unlike a certain former airline based here in MSP whom I shed no tears for!
Really? There was nothing problematic once Gordon got there.......
Air Travel sucks in 2019. even in "premium" class. PUKE!
In the Bible JESUS says I AM the Morning Star! Definitely the Morning Star is LUCIFER GODS ONLY SON! DEFINITION OF LUCIFER: THE Bringer OF LIGHT THE MORNING STAR! When someone who is Christian kills themselves. I'm trying to figure out if a Christian that dies in a certain manner of death because they died of fright I apologize for my wording, when remembering for first time something's because survivors and those involved someone is deciding if they kill me ir not go ahead shoot please, get your aim because very important accuracy paramount
Look at how cute and feminine American women used to be.
Hello! When standards mattered and BS didnt.