It's a skit, but at the same time, look at Tsuchiya's technique, his heel-to-toe is perfect, his shifts are perfect, his steering control perfect, his lines were amazing....lets not forget he is in a car with 165hp and won...pure genius.
Took the time to poke around on Google...the GT-R's driver is a Thai youtuber who runs a car-focused channel. His car control isn't terrible...being able to fire off a heel-toe is enough to show that...but he's a club-level racer at best, on a track against a pair of professionals, one of which is a motoring legend. What killed him was not having the confidence to throw it in and trust it on the limit...can see under braking that he was constantly second-guessing himself [modulating the pedal], compared to the other two who stomped with authority and held it there.
In some ways, while the GTR did seem to be straying far from the realm of total control, his early corner entries were actually understandable. In relation to the R34 and the 86s it is going toe-to-toe with, early corner-entries can work well as a defensive tactic, as long as the driver sticks rather close to the apex. With less weight (and by extension high early/mid-corner speed and later braking points), the 86 does have a massive advantage in the corner entrances (especially as both featured in this video seemed to be modified in such a manner in order to capitalize and improve upon this strength, as opposed to relying equally or more on high power figures), where if the R34 decides to take a late entry, the Corollas will be able to overtake and (possibly) proceed to block the corner exit, where the GTR's power will come to fruition, especially because of how easy it is to control said power due to the ATTESA-ETS. If the GTR takes an early entry, especially in the narrower sections of the course, it can block the road with its immense girth until the apex and take advantage of the power of the RB26 to prevent being overtaken at the corner exit. However, perhaps it was all staged, with the early entries simply emphasising the alleged "skill level" of the driver, simply refined for television. Additionally, it did seem as if the driver was taking the rubbish lines on purpose, which did seem somewhat forced, to an extent. This may also explain why he subtly gave way to the Eight-Sixes in the latter half of the race, why such an "unskilled driver" was able to execute perfect heel-to-toe downshifts, and also why the driver seemed to be egotistical up to an unrealistic extent.
"Unskilled driver" but he utilizes heel and toe technique during cornering in few occassions, I couldn't even master heel and toe in such quick manner.
No joke, when I bought my WRX STI it took me 1 month to learn manual and another to fully grasp heel toe. If you grew up driving manual or like me have to drive the car to work every day heel toe is the least difficult thing they're doing. If you have non-stop-sign turns those are the best simulation to practice, but in general, to get the timing and muscle memory, I've found that getting off the freeway into a stop light was the best place you can practice heel toe. Just heel toe your way from 6th gear to 1st before stopping and the motion will just end up becoming second nature eventually. It's super satisfying and actually helps preserve your brakes more if done correctly as engine braking will take some load off your brakes. He's a great driver but he's "unskilled" in race driving, which focuses a lot more on braking timing, cornering lines, throttle control, and choosing the right gear. Evidently he lost precisely because he got distracted and mis-shifted, braked too late and accelerated too soon (understeer) and lost him the ideal line, which let the others pass him.
Wow, this video is that sweet spot vaporwave aesthetic. Was this actually produced in 2000 or did they use vintage camera equipment to give it that look? It almost looks too good to be real.
4:58 ここからのブレーキング凄すぎだろ
これが人間ABS
4:33 ドリキンマジモード
6:51 ハチロクいい音すぎてたまらん
※GT-Rのドライバーも決して下手すぎるわけではありません。86組が異常なだけです
タウリン1000mg 正論で草
いや少し下手と思います。
でもまぁ二人が化け物のプレッシャーが凄いんだろうなぁ
一般人にしてはなかなか上手いよね！
ただあの2人は相手が悪すぎるw
JOKERGAME だとしても一般人と比べてgtrの人も上手いと思います
御二方のプレッシャーも凄いと思いますし
※注意！※ プロだから出来るんです！
織戸が譲るシーン、マジで胸が熱くなる。
オリダーと土屋さんのコンビは
土屋さん大井ちゃんと同じくらい好きなコンビです！
4:57 ここマジでマンガだわw
舐めてんじゃねーぞ外からいかすかよぉ！みたいな？？
当然なんだけどハイパワーマシンがコーナー抜けたあとに一気に加速していくの漫画と同じでちょっと感動
「あーここから離されるね」が、なんとなく高橋啓介と藤原拓海のバトルを思い出させる。
2速の立ち上がりは互角だけど、伸びが違う ってセリフあったよね。
4:19
なかざとたけしだろ
リアルタイムで当時見てました。今見ても神回です。
本物だ!!てか車好きなんですか?
"can close at corners"
Now that's the initial D spirit
This man just mentions Initial D every time something happens, truly a skilled man of culture
Well... yeah... at the end he is Takumi 🤷♂️
He helped make the show
He is the king of drifting lol. He's in the franchise he was bunts's friend
He's practically why initial d exists
He is initial D, he D=dreamed about drifting being recognized and he made it a motorsport
たとえ抜けなくてもコーナーで煽られる直線番長じゃなぁと思ったら抜いた上でコーナーで勝てなきゃ意味ないと言ってくれてやっぱ土屋圭一は最高だぜ
…にしても若いなぁ
これが公式で見れる時がくるとは…
この当時の土屋さんと織戸さんの実力差も結構あるね
この動画を見て、土屋さんと織戸さんのドラテクの凄さを改めて知りました。
165馬力でもプロレ一サー土屋さんのドライビングテクニックだと280馬力の34GTRに十分勝てる事が理解出来ました。
富士スピードウェイではぼろ負けw
これからハチロク来たら道譲ろう…
SOCOM まさかの本人笑
どっかで見た人だー
SOCOM いや？GC8なら譲るな！
あーーー
いや、FC3Sだろ（BNsportフルエアロのフルチューンに限る）
8:06 "If you a man, be cool at every corner." What a legend
Thank you for the Subtitles
こんなぽんぽん跳ねながら車の姿勢維持してABSついてないのにタイヤロックさせないで走れるの凄すぎる
6分51秒のギア下げる音まじでいい音
土屋と織戸が走ってるの見るとこっちも楽しくなってくる🥰
素人っていってもド素人に比べたらかなり上手い方だよね
その辺のドライバーよりはずっと上手いと思います。
ライン取りも焦って突っ込み過ぎなければアンダー出さずにいいライン取りしてましたし。
MASA 419 単独ならきれいに走れるでしょうね
プロドライバーのメンタルは強いですね！
BM/HV is sooo underrated and their message goes over sooooo many peoples head its quite a shame...these guys have always been ahead of their time
Crazy how much Mr.Tsuchiya's AE86 has envolved over time! Just compare this AE86 with the current AE86.
Like Takumi did... actualy hes Takumi
It's a skit, but at the same time, look at Tsuchiya's technique, his heel-to-toe is perfect, his shifts are perfect, his steering control perfect, his lines were amazing....lets not forget he is in a car with 165hp and won...pure genius.
and lesser weight
5:51 NANI
Nani!?
"なに"言ってんの？w
イニdの高橋啓介戦だろ
The dude in the GTR isn’t a bad driver, it is obvious that he is taking bad lines on purpose.
Chicken Nugget well the r34 also lost on another race to a crx and he had better lines and a different driver i think
Its obviously a comedy channel, theres even baloon hammer hitting lol
@@Dacommenta nah thats just japanese humor
they say its understeer
Not bad lines just a heavier car with AWD.
その昔（35年位前）ハチロク（トレノのドノーマル）に乗っていました。元気よく走る車で…調子に乗って走っていてＦＣがいたので戦いを挑んだら…子ども扱いされました。パワーが違いすぎました。私は「溝落とし」できないので…(。TωT) でも思い出深いいい車でした。
自語り乙
@@えどがわ-n2p 自語りっていうぐらいだから峠でカリスマや神扱いされていたような人なんですよきっと…w
vtec OHRC きっと白い彗星とかゴットアームとか言われてたんでしょうね笑笑
新hinomaru おうおうハチロクにバケモンみたいなエンジン載せやがってよぉ
ハチロクの音マジでいいなぁ！
R34の加速力マジやばいw
6:52で鳥肌立った
7:19 I felt that one in the heart. God I love Japanese car culture
年月を重ねる毎にこの動画の凄さ・土屋織戸の凄さ・腐林檎の胸の凄さがわかるようになってきた20歳の夜
0:38
いい声・・・
わからないじゃない❤️
このバトルめっちゃ好きだわ
やっぱ公式は画質ええ
桂文珍
ジロちゃん普通に上手い希ガス( *¯ㅿ¯*)
レオルMK-II
2人に比べたら。ってことや。
@@user-sp7kg2ot4h 山路さんのコンマ5秒落ちなんですからハチロクの二人が釣人級
6:51
ここんとこカッコいいな
The beginning was absolutely hilarious! This is why I love japanese shows in general!
4:46 Tsuchiya was like "Let me show you how it's done"
ホットバージョンは仁礼さんや大井さんが居た頃が一番面白かったですね。
ん～やるじゃんジローちゃあぁ～ん♡はサイコーw
織戸さん本当に人の方叩かない所GoodPoint！
音出してるだけだよねw
土屋さんがいうと説得力が違うww
ジローちゃん上手いよね普通に
普通の人より上手いよね
㊗️公式化
I just blew this up full screen on my 49 inch monitor to make sure that there were 0 distractions as I enjoyed this absolutely timeless MASTERPIECE.
伝説の回ｷﾀ━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━!
これほんとすこ
4:33 Attack mode ON
Took the time to poke around on Google...the GT-R's driver is a Thai youtuber who runs a car-focused channel. His car control isn't terrible...being able to fire off a heel-toe is enough to show that...but he's a club-level racer at best, on a track against a pair of professionals, one of which is a motoring legend.
What killed him was not having the confidence to throw it in and trust it on the limit...can see under braking that he was constantly second-guessing himself [modulating the pedal], compared to the other two who stomped with authority and held it there.
最終ラップでジローちゃん山路さんのコンマ2秒落ちのタイム出してるww
これは本当に伝説だわ...
流石土居さん
は？
ん？
土居さん？誰それ、土屋さんだよね。 名字間違えるとか失礼だよ。
チューニングはお金掛ければ何とかなってもGT500ドライバー級の技量がプライスレス過ぎるw
二台のハチロクの連携が見事！
神回ってやつですねw
何度も見てしまうな。神回すぎるよ
ついに公式来たー！！
1:39紳士用
for the gentleman
この方をご存知ですか？
コースもコースだし、ハチロクだからこそ勝てるんだよな
山路さんのコンマ5秒落ちは凄いよね
ナオピオ訓練兵 初走行なのに、何度も走っているジローちゃんに勝っていることから、さすがプロって感じしますよね！！！！ｗ
ジローちゃんがヘタなんじゃなくて2人が上手すぎるんじゃない？
ヤーマン そういう企画だからw
ヤーマン 別次元(？)
GT-Rスーパーレジェーラ ジローちゃん普通に上手いw
ジローちゃん運転上手ですよ
カーブが速い車好きな、俺なら負けない！
教習所の待合時間にこれ見てたな笑
こんなのしたら絶対怒られるなこりゃ笑笑
この回大好きだったなぁ。
やっぱり８６はこの形が1番カッコイイ
最初に土屋さんと織戸さんが登場する時にツッコミ入れる場面何気に好きww
直接ピコハンで叩いてる土屋さんに対して織戸さんはペットボトルで音出してるだけなのが🤣
5:48 Hachi Roku ga kieta?! Masaka?!
1.6L NAで2.6L ツインターボをチギる変態
負けられましぇーんwww
つーか6:51のとこ凄い良い音
1:39 マジ最高
車窓から見ている映がもろにGT7で本当に凄い。
色々と感動してしまう。
Here's the random english comment you're looking for
Hahahahhaha
今や高級車のハチロク
STI桜木 Just slap a VR38 in that Skyline and you won't be able to tell where it went
STI桜木 300万もするからねー。
34も800万するし
高級車ではない…
@@poteto322 レア車...の部類なのかな...？
高価車で正解
Moral of the story is 8:05
"If you are a man, be cool at every corner."
ドリキンの土屋と言ったらGT-Rの性能人一倍知ってるだけに逆に新鮮だよ。
流石、土屋さん！ミスしない所が、凄い！
コ－ナ－が、速い男は、カッコいい！
In some ways, while the GTR did seem to be straying far from the realm of total control, his early corner entries were actually understandable. In relation to the R34 and the 86s it is going toe-to-toe with, early corner-entries can work well as a defensive tactic, as long as the driver sticks rather close to the apex. With less weight (and by extension high early/mid-corner speed and later braking points), the 86 does have a massive advantage in the corner entrances (especially as both featured in this video seemed to be modified in such a manner in order to capitalize and improve upon this strength, as opposed to relying equally or more on high power figures), where if the R34 decides to take a late entry, the Corollas will be able to overtake and (possibly) proceed to block the corner exit, where the GTR's power will come to fruition, especially because of how easy it is to control said power due to the ATTESA-ETS. If the GTR takes an early entry, especially in the narrower sections of the course, it can block the road with its immense girth until the apex and take advantage of the power of the RB26 to prevent being overtaken at the corner exit. However, perhaps it was all staged, with the early entries simply emphasising the alleged "skill level" of the driver, simply refined for television. Additionally, it did seem as if the driver was taking the rubbish lines on purpose, which did seem somewhat forced, to an extent. This may also explain why he subtly gave way to the Eight-Sixes in the latter half of the race, why such an "unskilled driver" was able to execute perfect heel-to-toe downshifts, and also why the driver seemed to be egotistical up to an unrealistic extent.
スタートで遅れた土屋圭市が「速いなぁあの2人は〜」って言ってるのが強者感がすごいw
ハチロクも 乗る人次第で 化け物に
GTR R32
ナイスです
某アニメがいい例www
拓海のパンダトレノ
まぁ、中里毅は下手ではない笑
藤原文太 いや…あれ馬力二桁だけでRX7に勝っててるんだぞ…化けもんだろ…
今時こんな番組ないよな...
若い時の織戸さんカッコいいなぁ
"I have learned from keichi and have become a skilled driver"
*proceeds to shift from 3rd gear to 6th gear without even realising*
* Passing the Gtr*
*EUROBEAT INTENSIFIES*
DEJA VU
DANCE TO THE HEARTBEAT
@@HankScorpio93 heartbeat*
Ek9vsae86 music intensifies
子供の頃は気づかなかったけどジローちゃんいい人
土屋さんのペダルワークすげえ
"Unskilled driver" but he utilizes heel and toe technique during cornering in few occassions, I couldn't even master heel and toe in such quick manner.
No joke, when I bought my WRX STI it took me 1 month to learn manual and another to fully grasp heel toe. If you grew up driving manual or like me have to drive the car to work every day heel toe is the least difficult thing they're doing. If you have non-stop-sign turns those are the best simulation to practice, but in general, to get the timing and muscle memory, I've found that getting off the freeway into a stop light was the best place you can practice heel toe. Just heel toe your way from 6th gear to 1st before stopping and the motion will just end up becoming second nature eventually. It's super satisfying and actually helps preserve your brakes more if done correctly as engine braking will take some load off your brakes.
He's a great driver but he's "unskilled" in race driving, which focuses a lot more on braking timing, cornering lines, throttle control, and choosing the right gear. Evidently he lost precisely because he got distracted and mis-shifted, braked too late and accelerated too soon (understeer) and lost him the ideal line, which let the others pass him.
土屋さんは、うまいなーボスに勝ってるんだよ！そして、gtrも勝ってるなんてすげーー
Thank you very much for the subs Best Motoring! It is always appreciated.
チョイ下手って…そりゃ現役プロに比べたら…
「腐林檎」はウケたｗ
今日も不敗神話のRを守ることができなかった
Awesome battle, keiichi is really a master. Thanks for ENG CC
0:36
- Is this possible tô beat off GT-R whit tuned AE86 ?
- No way.
*- Eh!?*
Wow, this video is that sweet spot vaporwave aesthetic.
Was this actually produced in 2000 or did they use vintage camera equipment to give it that look? It almost looks too good to be real.
This is definitely in 2000. I remember downloading this video clip around 2003-2004
And Tsuchiya was around a year past almost winning Le Mans overall when this was released. Yep.
この回のホットバージョン待ってました‼
水戸納豆と元祖ドリキンでしょ？
おっかないじゃん…
車とは馬力が全てではないと教えてくれましたね。
当たり前だけど流石プロ👌
>"Bad" GT-R Driver
>Muscle Memory kicks in
>heel-toes a corner
>???
引き出しから技出したプロはカッコえー
2:55モータースポーツ界のビートたけしで草
グループＡを文字通りジェノサイドしたGT-Rとシエラコスワースにも勝てなかったハチロクじゃ
これぐらいの腕の差とチューニング差ががないと勝てないということでもある
土屋さんのまとめカッコイイ✨
でも、R34好きの俺としてはR34に勝ってもらいたかった…
仕方ないですよ
いくら車が良くても、やはり
ドライバーのテクニックで
差が生まれますからね。