Frieren is overrated, but it's still good. This guy apparently misses the copious amounts of emoting and subtext about Frieren blowing her chance with The Hero and how heavily that regret now weighs on her - literally the inciting incident. Most of the characters are not just lazy archetypes, that's one of the main draws (although I personally hate Stark, he has an obnoxious tropey personality and is rewarded for being a complete loser, when he needs to mature and start showing meaningful signs of growth to deserve Fern's attention). The main issue with the show is the way it makes ridiculous unrealistic contrivances to make the characters interact with the side stories, such as "There is literally only one way through this wall which spans a continent and is magically uncrossable" - if better explained and given adequate context, it would maybe be something you could sell me on, but it would be better to have more character-oriented reasons as to why they don't ignore it and move on, rather than constructing laughably OTT physical obstacles designed specifically so that a mage like Frieren apparently cannot instantly overcome them (even though she arguably should be able to). Also, there is a lot of clunky dialogue in the fight with Aura, really repetitive exposition, that might be anime only to pad the runtime for that particular episode, but it was really noticeable as a dip in quality. It's a 7-8/10 rather than 9-10/10, and some people won't like the slow pace, whimsy, introspection and low stakes, that's their preference, but apparently most people do like it, and you can dislike something without thinking that means it is bad...
@@JesseGolo It's just a shallow way for the author to go: "that's a thing, and it transparently contrives to facilitate the plot" rather than anything of substance. It wouldn't take too much to earn something like that by giving us just a little bit more flavour text surrounding its creation, maybe even say that Frieren could break it but chooses not to, and it wouldn't be so bad if the author didn't insist on repeating the "physical obstruction" plot contrivance over and over again. Because the truth is, these characters are designed so as not to care about these side quests, they are quite self-centred - which makes sense, but it would be a nightmare D&D party, because they are so hard to give narrative hooks to, and it means that the plot has to go out of its way to ambush them, rather than following naturally. They shouldn't need this much deus ex machina funnelling towards their destination. Fern and Stark in particular should be acting as Frieren's moral compass and dragging her around on tangents, because they are vital and animated and everything is new to them. You could even have her eccentricities play a role as well. But it's not there in the show, at least so far, they just try to dodge everything the plot throws at them, which is a bit silly. Maybe it will improve, but... I suspect it won't, at least for a while.
He's not wrong. The common words associated with Frieren are "boring", "long" and "basic fantasy" - with nothing original or interesting really happening.
@@centripetal6157 Those words mean nothing to me because they are surface level criticisms that don't highlight anything actually wrong with Frieren. I really don't care if he likes Frieren or not. His criticisms just don't land (for me anyway) because it doesn't look like he actually paid attention or understand whatever the series was doing with its characters (Like I said, haven't watched the series myself).
@@QTRemnant I watched Frieren... Don't make that mistake. Skip it. Its overly long and pointless fantasy anime trash garbage. Designed to waste your time on mini stories that go absolutely nowhere and mean nothing. It has standard overpowered, 0 personality, robotic, anime characters that "hide" their own power because they are godlike overpowered. With the most half assed "kill the demon king plot" that doesn't really matter and is filled with 80% filler stories and flashbacks to waste everyone's time. If you want to watch an anime that is fantasy and magic themed that is interesting, with a unique world, with actual great characters - watch Delicious in Dungeon. Its an excellent show.
Brother... Spending hours upon hours of episodes to watch flashbacks, filler episodes of Frieren birthday shopping, planting flowers at Himmels statue, waking up early, cleaning debris from a beach, etc.... is NOT PEAK ANIME. There's an actual 20 minute episode of Fern just sleeping for 20 minutes with a cold flu. Yeah... Its time wasting trash. Its actual GARBAGE that has been overhyped, while following all standard, basic anime tropes that have ever existed. With 0 imagination or passion into making an interesting story. The only crazy people are the ones watching this time wasting braindead story for over 27 episodes of mind-numbing, bored characters walking and having flashbacks or doing pointless things - and calling it a masterpiece. 80% of the mini stories can be taken out and it would not affect the story at all. You wasted your time miserably on this boring, lame, generic and basic fantasy garbage show. This is also a story where nothing matters - because magic will fix everything. Frieren literally time travels to go back to Himmel. This show sucks hard - it wastes the viewers time on purpose with pointless garbage.
I didn't even have time to talk about the part where he calls people racist for saying the demons are evil.
I see this one on x this morning 😂
Frieren is overrated, but it's still good.
This guy apparently misses the copious amounts of emoting and subtext about Frieren blowing her chance with The Hero and how heavily that regret now weighs on her - literally the inciting incident. Most of the characters are not just lazy archetypes, that's one of the main draws (although I personally hate Stark, he has an obnoxious tropey personality and is rewarded for being a complete loser, when he needs to mature and start showing meaningful signs of growth to deserve Fern's attention).
The main issue with the show is the way it makes ridiculous unrealistic contrivances to make the characters interact with the side stories, such as "There is literally only one way through this wall which spans a continent and is magically uncrossable" - if better explained and given adequate context, it would maybe be something you could sell me on, but it would be better to have more character-oriented reasons as to why they don't ignore it and move on, rather than constructing laughably OTT physical obstacles designed specifically so that a mage like Frieren apparently cannot instantly overcome them (even though she arguably should be able to).
Also, there is a lot of clunky dialogue in the fight with Aura, really repetitive exposition, that might be anime only to pad the runtime for that particular episode, but it was really noticeable as a dip in quality.
It's a 7-8/10 rather than 9-10/10, and some people won't like the slow pace, whimsy, introspection and low stakes, that's their preference, but apparently most people do like it, and you can dislike something without thinking that means it is bad...
@@Capt.Thunder Isn't the context for the wall the evil demon army of powerful mages that was a problem a few decades ago?
@@JesseGolo It's just a shallow way for the author to go: "that's a thing, and it transparently contrives to facilitate the plot" rather than anything of substance.
It wouldn't take too much to earn something like that by giving us just a little bit more flavour text surrounding its creation, maybe even say that Frieren could break it but chooses not to, and it wouldn't be so bad if the author didn't insist on repeating the "physical obstruction" plot contrivance over and over again.
Because the truth is, these characters are designed so as not to care about these side quests, they are quite self-centred - which makes sense, but it would be a nightmare D&D party, because they are so hard to give narrative hooks to, and it means that the plot has to go out of its way to ambush them, rather than following naturally. They shouldn't need this much deus ex machina funnelling towards their destination.
Fern and Stark in particular should be acting as Frieren's moral compass and dragging her around on tangents, because they are vital and animated and everything is new to them. You could even have her eccentricities play a role as well. But it's not there in the show, at least so far, they just try to dodge everything the plot throws at them, which is a bit silly.
Maybe it will improve, but... I suspect it won't, at least for a while.
I haven't even watched frieren yet and his tweets sound crazy.
He's not wrong. The common words associated with Frieren are "boring", "long" and "basic fantasy" - with nothing original or interesting really happening.
@@centripetal6157 Those words mean nothing to me because they are surface level criticisms that don't highlight anything actually wrong with Frieren. I really don't care if he likes Frieren or not. His criticisms just don't land (for me anyway) because it doesn't look like he actually paid attention or understand whatever the series was doing with its characters (Like I said, haven't watched the series myself).
@@QTRemnant I watched Frieren... Don't make that mistake. Skip it.
Its overly long and pointless fantasy anime trash garbage. Designed to waste your time on mini stories that go absolutely nowhere and mean nothing.
It has standard overpowered, 0 personality, robotic, anime characters that "hide" their own power because they are godlike overpowered.
With the most half assed "kill the demon king plot" that doesn't really matter and is filled with 80% filler stories and flashbacks to waste everyone's time.
If you want to watch an anime that is fantasy and magic themed that is interesting, with a unique world, with actual great characters - watch Delicious in Dungeon. Its an excellent show.
Brother... Spending hours upon hours of episodes to watch flashbacks, filler episodes of Frieren birthday shopping, planting flowers at Himmels statue, waking up early, cleaning debris from a beach, etc.... is NOT PEAK ANIME.
There's an actual 20 minute episode of Fern just sleeping for 20 minutes with a cold flu. Yeah... Its time wasting trash.
Its actual GARBAGE that has been overhyped, while following all standard, basic anime tropes that have ever existed. With 0 imagination or passion into making an interesting story.
The only crazy people are the ones watching this time wasting braindead story for over 27 episodes of mind-numbing, bored characters walking and having flashbacks or doing pointless things - and calling it a masterpiece.
80% of the mini stories can be taken out and it would not affect the story at all. You wasted your time miserably on this boring, lame, generic and basic fantasy garbage show.
This is also a story where nothing matters - because magic will fix everything. Frieren literally time travels to go back to Himmel.
This show sucks hard - it wastes the viewers time on purpose with pointless garbage.
I never would have expected you to drop a video like this, but here we are. Wild takes on TBYS’s part btw