Unbelievable! Michelin CrossClimate 2 better than winter tires?
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- Опубликовано: 29 июл 2024
- First impression of Michelin CrossClimate 2 in the first snow since purchase. These have single handily eliminated the winter tire market and makes more financial sense when considering the cost of swapping tires every year. Couldn’t be more impressed. My only regret is not knowing about them prior to purchasing set of winter tires on my other vehicle...
Reporting from the Pacific Northwest. Ex-mechanic, Lived in Alaska for 10 years.
I purchased a full set of these tires (From Discount Tire as well) in the fall during our typical rainy season. The first thing I noticed was they are a bit noisier than our previous tires but not so much that it was a real concern. The next thing I noticed was that the water-pumping ability is second-to-none. Normally, when our 2021 Subaru Ascent hit deep water (1/2" to 2") with only one side of the vehicle, the vehicle would pull pretty hard to the side hitting the water, as result of rolling resistance from the water piling up in front of the tires on that side. Not with these tires--The pull is almost completely absent, being barely noticeable. The directional, diagonal deep grooves in the tires act as a constant pump, ejecting water from under the tires keeping the tire surface in full contact with the road. If you look out the side windows as you drive through deeper water, you can actually see the pattern of the pump grooves in the spray of the water being ejected to the sides of the vehicle. Very impressed.
As Winter kicked in, the vehicle was driven over a mountain pass through the Cascades just after a blizzard. On the hard pack left behind by the plow trucks, it felt like driving on dry pavement, during turns, acceleration and braking. In fresh, un-plowed snow, it was more obvious that you were in snow but was far superior to tires I used up in Alaska that were both siped AND had studs. Yes, that is what I said, they out-performed STUDDED tires. Honestly, I did not think that possible, but the proof is in the pudding.
I have long been a subscriber to the idea of buying products based on warranty, not cost, the reasoning being that if the manufacture stands behind the product and shows that by including a decent warranty, I am less likely to have to replace the product sooner, in the long run saving me money. This has worked well for me in almost every consumer-product category. That being said, a 60k mile warranty on not just winter tires, but multi-season tires is almost unheard of. With winter tires I have tried in the past, including in Alaska, the tire compound is too soft to survive summer conditions for long and thus the manufacturer usually gave warranties in the 30k-40k range, at best. Michelin puts their money where their mouth is by including a warranty usually only seen on standard, single season tires.
TOTALLY impressed with the entire package, but expect to pay more--They are NOT cheap tires. But, as I said, if they last longer than other tires, and don't require mounting/balancing of a second set of winter tires, you will actually SAVE money in the long run.
Way to go Michelin!
You should do video reviews! Very well stated and agree 100%. I don't think it's possible to hydroplane with these tires. They struggle on icy roads but they eat up snow like an Olympic skier. Small compromise for all year tire if you ask me. Especially given that I take it very slow on ice, where dedicated winter tire I tend to push and speed can be disastrous without notice on ice. Thanks for your comment!
I love Michelin tires but the new Nokian WR G5 looks promising. If reviews don't look good, I'll probably go with Michelin Alpin 5.
@@kobykat1what is the comfort ride of these tires in summer and winter? Are they good tires but hard stiff riding tires?
I've had these on my car for the last 2 years and won't fit anything else . They are AWESOME. Great grip in the snow , great water displacement in very wet conditions and great grip in summer weather . I've actually had cross climates on for the last 5 years but the first 3 years were cross climate 1s and the last 2 years cross climate 2s . Really can't overstate just how awesome they really are especially getting you out of tricky situations when it's snowed 👍👍 5 *****
Michelin out did themselves with the Cross Climate 2, excellent tires!
Michelin make the best tyres. I always put pilot sports on my "fun" cars and cross climate on my commuters. For the sake of a few bucks it's a no brainer.
@@amg863 Helas not a few bucks where I live but still bought them. Due to Covid they arrive in three weeks.
Try Michelin X-Ice Snow, these are real north winter tires and gives real good grip.
@@kaliiklejaThe point is the Cross Climate 2 is a 3PSF.
Troy, Ohio here. I didn't want to comment on your review until I had a chance to do my own personal "research." I long since made the decision to install these on all of my vehicles. I am enough of a tire nerd that I replaced the factory tires on our 2021 Toyota Sienna 2wd with these after 5000 miles of torture that is the factory junk. My father in law's 2wd Ford Edge was in desperate need of a set of tires and this is what I installed as well.
So we had over the course of 12 hours rain, then ice, then snow. Ended up with over 5 inches on the ground, wind, drifting, and a layer of ice under it. I went out and about with my father in law's 2wd Ford Edge. Note that in the past I have had Michelin X-Ice3's. These were every bit the equal of those winter tires. Incredibly confident in the bad stuff. Furthermore, Costco seems to be throwing $150 off of a set of 4 Michelins at least 4 times a year.
So yes, this tire is quiet and capable enough to replace the Michelin Premiere series that was my "goto" tire for all seasons and yet eliminates the need for a dedicated winter tire. Outstanding review that you posted and I am here to say it's 100% true.
I just want to say thank you. I live in Los Angeles but go up to Mammoth/Tahoe to ski almost every other week during the winter season, so definitely needed winter tires during that time. Was looking for a set of new tires to replace my factory M+S and was debating between dedicated winter tires (that I would have to switch out during the summer) or another set of M+S and have subpar winter performance and might even need chains. Well...your video was the first time i've heard of these CrossClimate2, did a lot more research on them and just made an appointment to get them next week. So thanks very much for introducing these awesome tires, now I can just keep one set for the whole year on my Pilot AWD!
Skied Kirkwood a couple times and these tires will handle anything you throw at them. Been great even throughout the summer.
Thanks,,for comments.. let us know how they work…. ADMITTEDLY, DEDICATED Winter studs expensive, some noisy, and extra messing around….But, Interestingly, I still using , & with studded NOKIAN HAKKAPALETAS on My Journey FRONT WH DRIVE, AND HANKOOK WINTER PIKE STUDDED on my GMC Canyon REAR wheel ( all four naturally), in Helena Valley, MT…no Black ice/ extended iceing this Winter of 2021 so far.. Actually thouhg of not switching my Truck’s tires (Goodyear Wrangler M/ S, very usable tires, in much winter )AND not driving it much..
@@opera93 Your comment was impossible to read.
Purchased a set at BJs, punched the Side side wall , not a replacement to be found in any Ny
@@kobykat1 the CC2's don't handle deep fresh Sierra cement too well, or even San Bernadino mountain fresh snow too well. It's too easy to lose traction, as it spins and creates a nice packed snow patch underneath to grab a hold of... even when the tires are new. And it gets worse when the siping patterns change after 10,000 miles. The shoulder block sipes are not full depth all the way across the shoulder block, just about the outer 75% of the shoulder block is full depth sipes. The inner step pattern sipes wear out to become straight line sipes. So they end up looking like the original CrossClimates, after around 10,000 miles.
I had these on my front wheel drive work vehicle . Just amazing. I live in Minnesota and on snow and ice you need to try to get the traction control light to flash. Stopped on hills and no problem. Smooth riding over bumps and extremely quiet. Can’t wait for the tires on my own car to wear out so I can get these on.
Thanks for showing this. No more changing tires between seasons for me.
Here in Canada most of us use dedicated winter tires. 3 peak tires like these good in light snow but not good on ice or cold conditions.
Thank you for the review. I drove my wife's 2021 F-Pace about 50 miles on snow and ice covered highways in Minnesota this morning with the factory "all season" tires and didn't feel safe at all. I had a set of these put on 3 hours ago and WOW! The Jag now handles medium snow and ice as well as my 2020 Defender on Wrangler Adventures. Granted it won't go through 18" like the Defender will, but I just want my wife to be safe on the highway. Great tire recommendation. Thank you so much!!!
We have them on both our Outback and our Forester.
We get 5-6 feet of snow every winter and they’re awesome tires.
They’re also great in the slush, wet and dry roads.
We no longer have to have snow rated tires in the winter since changing to the Cross Climate 2 tires
The cross climate 2s are seriously great! I've had mine for almost a year now. Had no issues on northern Michigan roads with my car what so ever.
Hi! I was wondering about how much kilometers you can travel with new CC2 tyres before replacement? tx
@@dilysi156 I believe they are rated at 60000 miles so about 100000 kilometers
@@MasterCrafter7777777 my god that seems to be a lot 🤤
do you have FWD? I have a FWD in Ohio and my all seasons are terrible in rain and even light slushy snow
Do you have fwd,rwd,awd/4x4?
THANK YOU! Was totally on the fence on what to buy - you've convinced me!
I have a friend who have made it from Italy to Norway . He is so impressed by those tyres. Leaving a country at + 25celsius and then arriving home at -12celsius is something incredible. I am stubborn.
Bought these in January of this year right before we had our first major (ove 11 inches) snow storm. They were fantastic. I'm really glad I bought these tires.
Thank you for making this video and sharing! I shared this video with my son. One set of tires -vs- two, seems like an obvious choice.
Good that I found this video. I did have Continental all season contact on a Toyota auris touring sport hybrid which no was the the station wagon version of the Corolla in Europe. They did quite well in summer and winter driving. But now I got a 2021 Rav4 Black Edition 4x4 hybrid and was looking for something with a bit more grip off-road so I got these Michelin cross climate. Haven’t been in the snow yet but noticed on a really muddy extremely slippery track they’re absolutely marvelous, the profile pics up an enormous amount of mud and with a bit of wheelspin also gets rid of it again so traction is very good and I hope this will be on snow about the same and usually all seasons are very good in icy conditions too. It actually picks up so much mud that a couple of hundred yards on a tarmac Road I have bits and chunks flying off the tires bouncing up about as highe a the Rav4 so following traffic keeps of my back😃
Lots of people love these tires. Different formulations for Europe vs. US/NA, but consensus seems to be they are the real deal and worth the money. Just got mine yesterday and notice improvements in every category, from tracking to road noise, to handling (yes, a tad of understeer which more reviewers document), to urban MPG. Can't wait to see how they wear.
I have them on my Crosstrek over a year now they are really good on snow and rain, no more hydroplane but on gravel road lots of small rock stuck in it I can fill it rattling on the road.
I haven't been able to use mine in the snow yet but very impressed with wet and dry handling.
3:22 2/32nds is the discard tread level in the US. What your talking about is the tread features like sipes going down to 2/32nds, it just means the cuts are deeper so when your tread wears down you'll retain the handing characteristics longer. Other tires the tread features may stop at a higher depth and you'll lose performance sooner.
Thanks for the review. I also have Crossclimate plus tires on my car for 2 years now and they work great in all weather conditions. I will definitely switch to crossclimate 2 next time I need to change my tires.
Just bought these tires two months ago back in August. Looking forward to testing these in the winter on my 2013 Highlander Limited full time 4wd similar to yours
Were getting a set of these for our 2009 FWD RAV4. I'm retired and usually don't need to go anywhere when the weather is bad but still good to have in case you get unexpectedly caught in a winter storm, especially since our RAV4 is not AWD.
I just tested these with Michelin for my store and drove rav 4 with the cross climate 2 amazing tested against Goodyear and driving both cars such a difference I put them on my 9wn car
You actually have a RAV2 Florida special.
Best all weather tire hands down! I talked my father into a set of these for when his OEM Pirelli all season tires are worn.
My research was Tire Rack tests and an on-line tire size calculator
These tires perform as well as some dedicated winter snow tires in the test, except a bit longer stopping on ice
But perform almost as well as dedicated High Performance winter tires on ice
They are the number one Grand Touring tire in all tests
They stop almost as short in wet and dry and pull almost as many G-forces as tires in the Ultra High Performance group
I really wanted these for my 2019 Audi A8, as a one tire solution, as I drive it like it's a German Lincoln town car, more focused on quiet smooth Luxury ride, then trying to turn it into a Porsche 911
Unfortunately they only come in two 20 inch sizes 245/45r20 and 245/40r20 and my car takes 265/40 r20
I could not find a used A8 with 19”wheels, as the 20” wheel is only a $1,200.00 option that everybody chose, apparently
I checked the sizes and the 245/45r20 will work as it is almost the same height as the 275/35r21 that is an option on the car
28.58” for the 275/35r21 vs 28.68” for the 245/45r20, this also gives me almost as much sidewall as the 19” 4.34 inches for the 245/45r20 vs 4.52 inches for 255/45r19 that was standard on the car for a better ride, and the tread width is the exact same 8.6 inches as the standard 255/45r19 that the car also came with
I am extremely happy as I can have fun in the winter when the days are warm and roads are clear without destroying the tires
And drive on snow and ice with no worries and have awesome wet and dry braking when the days are warm and roads are clear
This is as close to a one tire solution as it gets, also a long 640 tread wear, and on par pricing with the rest of the high end Grand Touring tires
Not to mention saving the cost of 4 winter tires, mount, balance, TPMS and 4 OEM Audi A8 rims and changing twice a year
I did a lot of research before I bought new Michelin Cross Climate tires for my 2010 Super Cab 4 x 4 Ford F-150 Heavy Duty pickup last fall before the snow hit. I am very satisfied with them. I only have 43k miles on this truck and the original weather checked tires needed to be changed out. The LT 245/75 17E truck tread is different than the car tire tread.
Just bought these for
My Highlander as well. Glad to hear you love them!!
I live in the Mountain West so I’m looking forward to the snow!!
Good enthusiastic review!!👍👍
Try Michelin X-Ice Snow, these are real north winter tires and gives real good grip.
This will be my next set of tires...thanks for the video. M.
I live in Alberta, and the thought of not having to change tires for winter and summer is amazing! I can't wait to get myself a set.
Sorry to hear that
@@ballathug8404 why??
@@richardsalmon5918 I think it's meant to be a joke because he said he lived in Alberta
How is it working for you 😮, I'm from QC
This is what I got for my 4cyl, 375hp GLA45AMG, and I'm super satisfied with its performance. No road noise and excellent traction. Cornering is lacking a little in dry conditions, but I'm willing to give up some cornering Gs as a trade off to not change tires every winter and spring. Besides, for cornering satisfaction, I got my M4Cx :)
Have you been able to get past the new styling on the M4Cx? I know they drive well but I'd have to take it for drives at night or in less busy areas as I would be too self-conscious.
Thanks for your post!!
Coming from a bald tire to a brand new 1 is a heck of a change!
Thanks for your video. First of all, I live in Quebec, Canada which by itself is a really extreme test for any Tire, so I've just decided to go with a set of these. Winter is coming, we got lots of snows and Ice and crazy extreme cold weather (Temps go easily below 30F) as well. I hope they will handle well on these extreme conditions as it does for you down in US. Thanks again.
how are they holding up in the snow? im not too south of you and looking for tires for my brother.
Yes how have they performed in Quebec?
I'm from QC, Same question 😮😮
@@rickylafleur5823 it's been my second winter or third and I have only good things to talk about the tire, however I have heard Michelin has discontinued this type of tires. Overall I really like the way it handles snow and water. I do drive more carefully on ice, but that's expected since it is not the best option for this type of condition
Nice, I got some vredstein 2 years ago. They blew my mind. I always had winter tires before. I drove those up in Breck without issues. Looks like the new rubber compounds are making it across all brands.
I just replaced my old Vredsteins with some new CrossClimate2 for my Chrysler AWD 300S. Looking forward to testing them out!
@@majerstud lemme know they are awesome on mine.
@@ReefFoundation Been over three weeks and not a drop falls out of the sky! C'mon, man!
@@majerstud I've be interested too, assuming you've swapped from the Quatrac 5? I've used these for years (on my 4th set) and they've been good, so if the Michelins are a better all-rounder then I'm sold!
@@matfenwick They did replace my old Quatracs, but I don't remember how they were, specifically. We had our first significant snow fall the other day, and I took my car out just to test the tires. It was about 3-4 inches of wet snow with a nasty layer of ice on top, over a mix of back roads and divided highway. The car accelerated and braked very well, no sliding or slipping, and took the turns and curves very well, too. I even plowed thru the ice wall the County had left at the bottom of my driveway, with no problems. So far, so good! And- they look cool!
I've had the original CrossClimates on all my cars since around 2017. We live in SW France so conditions vary from 40+degC at the height of summer to well below freezing and lots of snow and ice in the Pyrenees. Before that, I had ContiWinterContacts for December to March because I was fed up with snow chains, particularly when one snapped half way up the mountain road at 2am at -10. Jacking up a car to remove a wheel in those conditions is not ideal.
The CrossClimates are almost as good in the snow - packed and soft - as the Contis. They are superb. And I gather that these new versions are even better.
As you said in your film, you don't know what they're like on 2WD vehicles. Well, all mine are FWD and they're excellent. Drove across the Massif Central last weekend on snow covered roads and they were great. Much much better than any 4WD drive on summer tyres.
No one drives a 4WD vehicle with summer tires on. The tires you're going to find on those vehicles will be all-season, all-weather, all-terrain, or mud-terrain.
What is your opinion on the thread wear during the hot summer in SW France? I live in a region where the summers are approx 30-35 deg C, with generally soft winters, but occasionally we get one week of snow plus We go in a ski vacation every winter. I am not concerned about the snow performance as I'm driving awd car. What concerns me is how long these tires will last if driven in hot summer conditions like where you live.
Fitted a brand new pair of CrossClimate 2s on my car yesterday, coming from Bridgestone A005 Evo, can’t wait to get them on to snow to test them out!
I just put a set on my Camry. I can’t wait to see how well they do this winter.
I live in the UK and I just bought a set of these tires. Here its generally 3 - 8 degrees C and rainy most of the time during winter with the odd time where its dry and icy cold and the odd time when it snows. I felt that this was an ideal tire for these kinds of conditions :) we got our first snow this weekend and I decided to bite the bullet and get some. My summer tires are absolutely dreadful in the snow and ice and I had 2 close calls last year because of them.
I'm in the UK too and dropped onto this video. They look great.
Same, based in Scotland and just bought 4 of these to fit
Uk too I’m struggling for my size looking like January delivery 255/35/19
Thanks, me too close Calls icings….. see my comments.. Nokian ,& HANKOOK Studded winter tires, HELENA Valley MT
UK too. ! 😀 Bought these today!
I have a 2016 MX-5 Club that I drive in Northern Illinois. I have a dedicated set of winter tires for those cold months. I switch out the tires & rotate them myself because it also gives a chance to inspect the brakes / brake lines / plastic inner liners. I clean off those parts each seasonal change so while I like the idea of never changing tires for seasons the personal inspection of the brakes & the other parts would never happen. My winter tires are Michelin X-Ice 3 BTW. The Miata is really good in the snow with this setup under 6". Over 6" & I'll wait for the plows.
@@ikilledthemoon As long as the temperature stays below 70 degrees the tires work well in the rain too. The thing to remember is stopping distances increase as the temperature goes up. At 45 degrees or below they work well in any condition. My car is stock height. Being light is an advantage & it would be extremely hard to get stuck in 6 inches or less of snow. I have not had a " STUCK " incident yet. Are they worth it ? Definitely YES. Cross climate tires are an interesting alternative though.
I drove my 97 Miata with Blizzaks all over Chicago for over 8 years
Ahd both a '99 and '08 Miata...both had dedicated winter tires and were great as long as the snow depth was below bumper height ;-). Then the Miata becomes a snow plow..and is not very good at that being so lightweight! Certainly FUN to drive in the winter..and remember, heater and seat heaters DO WORK when the top is down too!
I'm interested in these but it's a bummer that they don't come in my size so I went with my go to UHP all weather tire, the Conti DWS 06 Plus
Thanks for the review I'm getting them.
494 and snow, must be a fellow MNer
I learned of these tires from Engineering Explained and I bought a set for my wifes forester and my fusion
cant wait to get them installed
The snow looks pretty fresh and sounds very dry (at about 2:30 into the video) when you're walking about.
I'd like to hear how they perform on some compact snow, ice, and in slush.
Many tires work well in dry snow as they'll trap the dry snow within the tread, and like a snowball adhere to the snow on the ground.
Thanks for your initial impressions.
Most tires, including winters, will always have degraded performance in slush. I found this out with my Blizzaks. Not fun!
The directional design tread and big gap working really good on slush. It flash slush and water out really quick.
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No video of mine in more adverse snow condition, but the tread design seems to clear very well. I am in zone 6 and we don't get a lot of deep snow, but it goes to slush fairly quickly, and ice is more of a concern. No issue, and I switched from Blizzak which were fine on new snow, but horrible on slush or after a few miles on fresh. Coming up on 55k miles with the Crossclimate2 (CC2) and performance seems to be almost as good as the day they were installed.
They are great in wet conditions as well. I have a set on a 2012 Beetle that hydroplanes easily using all season tires, but it is far less common with the CC2.
MPG doesn't appear to have taken a hit either with these tires. Beetle is getting the same and the LaCrosse actually went up a couple miles.
L R good to know!
Thanks for the information.
just what I was lookin for. New Sub!
Yess sirr😃 i purchased 4 of these tires Oct 7th 2021, after looking in consumer report book, listed as number 1 in all season tires, 😃, also looking at michelin upload video showing the performace on road, Thank you for your video as well😃. Im in Ohio we get our share of snow. So far on dry ground i like that these tires are quiet, we haven't received rain yet, but viewing video's they did well on wet ground☺.
There is Nothing like real Winter Tires. Nothing will beat the Nokian and Bridgestone in any winter conditions. I love up in the North with 6 months of snow per year.
I just purchased the CrossClimate 2’s for my 2016 Honda Civic and am very pleased with them. Prior to this I swapped out my summer tires in the Fall for my Michelin X-Ice winter tires then back to summer tires again in the Spring. I still plan to use the dedicated winter tires next winter. Also, my Discount Tire dealership in Elgin IL (And I agree they are very good to work with) swaps my tires for FREE in the Spring and Fall. I have all eight tires on their own dedicated wheels.
Why did you get these if you are still doing winter tires?
@@postskeetclarity Hello Rob. I use the CC2’s in the Spring through Fall seasons because I wanted an “All around” Michelin tire that provided EXCELLENT traction and braking in the wet weather, a relatively quiet ride, and decent fuel economy. I have seen my fuel mileage drop about 6% from the CC2’s as compared to the OEM Bridgestone tires my car came with, but the better traction with the very unique tread pattern is definitely worth it.
@@illiyakuryakin3092 just get a dedicated summer which is still better than CC2 in the dry performance and dedicated winter for winter performance. CC2 is expensive because it is supposed to act as both summer and winter tire. Doesn't make sense to buy an expensive cc2 and then a winter tire.
@@random4k336 It makes sense for me because my Michelin X-Ice tires are now going on their sixth and probably last winter season. I bought the CrossClimate 2’s knowing this in advance and may just not use dedicated snow tires in the future. The CrossClimate 2’s gave me EXCELLENT Spring, Summer, and Fall performance. In fact, better summer performance than some tires I have had in the past, especially the OEM’s that came with the car in 2016. But that is to be expected. Ride safe.
@@illiyakuryakin3092 we kind of figured: A) u have money to experiment with, in which case you you virtually replaced all seasons with this CC2 ALL WEATHER (which is brilliant BTW especially if u live in the snow belt) OR B) You did the most sensible thing by using out your dedicated Winters while u dabbled with ALL WEATHER.
I’m definitely gonna give them a try despite my common sense that’s dragging me back to convention.
I just ordered a set today and get to have them put on this coming week on my AWD Volvo XC70!
I just ordered a set of V-rated Michelin CC 2 tires for my 2021 Hyundai Sonata Limited 1.6 T from Tire Rack. Just waiting for them to get to my shop for mounting and 4-wheel alignment. I'm pumped.
I wanted a set of these SO bad on our 2016 Equinox but they were impossible to get at the time. 😭
I had ecopias, almost took my life in winter and rainy conditions.
Just bought crossclimate 2s cant wait to see what these puppies can do.
Just got some for my accord. Hoping it can give some improvement over sporty all season tires I had. Plows do a pretty great job anyway here in MN but I cant wait to test them out!
Curious how they will perform in Summer time with heat on? Likely louder than All season and wearing off faster - just guessing.
Love my CrossClimate+ tires on my 2018 Tesla Model 3, looking forward to getting CrossClimate 2 when replacement is needed around 35,000 miles!
Thank you for your video... I'm getting these for my Honda Accord 2.0T Sport.
I totally agree we drove in Jackson hole and they performed awesome!
Thanks for sharing, I’ll definitely check them out.
Definitely sounds great, as advertised, they are definitely an all-weather tire. I’ve only done a bit of research on this but the Pilot AS4 has done really well too, even in the snow. The 2 competitors I like are Hankook Kinergy and Continental AllSeasonContact, Michelin is great for longevity too, they’re the only one offering a mileage warranty on a winter tire (X-Ice Snow).
If you are only getting a few inches of snow and it is gone in a day or 2 all-weather tires are fine. I just read that in Finland 80% of people have studded tires. They get a lot of snow and they are so close to the North Pole that they only get 4-5 hours of sunlight in the winter (in the south near Helsinki) and they get no sunlight at all in the north for about 6 weeks of the winter.
So you can imagine, the weather is more extreme there. Winter tires are likely mandatory there. If you have a SUV though in most places you just need AS tires. Cars definitely need winter tires in extreme weather conditions. Michelin, Continental and Pirelli tend to be really expensive, but brands like Hankook, Toyo, Kumho and Yokohama also very good and come at a better price point.
Yeah we need a different compound here. Much safer to use a proper nordic winter tyre
Yes the winter tires are mandatory in all countries north of Poland
Thanks, I’m checking. My “HANKOOK Winter PIKE STUDDED “ BEEN UNUSUALLY “good/ positive driving”, in now my fifth season using A SET of FOUR **( 2007 GMC CANYON Rear Wheel drive.), though kind of low mileages . Interestingly, went NOKIAN HAKKAPALETAS STuds ON MY Wife’s **Journey FRT WHEEL drive, THEY seem to be some noisier, MAYBE not quite as confident inspiring as my Truck on “all icing Conditions”. Full disclosure,, Wife likes Nokian better , thouhg She does NOT drive CANYON much,……ps HELENA VALLEY MT.
Thanks K1…I’ll be ordering a set tomorrow.
Hows its traction and braking performance on icy road?
Has anyone put some decent miles on them. My biggest question is will they wear even, or make tons of noise after say 20k miles.
Because they have the 3 peaks rating like winter tires, I wonder if insurance companies will regard them as winter tires and still give you the discount.
They are brilliant tyres had a few sets on Mazda CX-5 and now kodiaq, top notch, last forever brilliant in the snow
I have them on my 2012. Awd Lexus and this winter have been super
Highway 62 and Baker Road. Bro was driving through my hood. About to buy these so I can leave EP at 5AM to get to Lutsen on heavy snow days and ski the pow pow.
really? wow , what winter tires on your minivan? I'm considering blizzaks as I have a rwd vehicle. how do these babies do in the summer? i love michelin and have AS3+ but that's been sketchy in just a bit of snow lol...
I would like to see when it will be 50% done. How it works than. Especially in wet corner.
Do you think i can put them on my 2018 Jimny? 15" 205/60 or 195/65 ? I go 10-20% offroad over pointy stones sometime. i want better grip in the wet.
How do these compare to the Bridgeton Blizzaks? How do they do when stopping and turning on ice?
Yes I agree I've been doing a lot of research/homework on these particular tires. The company states it was a long thought out project. We have a automotive/tire store on base hopefully the people can special order me a set the prices are the best always it's a military base keep prices low for military families.
Michelin tires have been the best for years. For the longest they were the only tire true to size. You get what your pay for.
The Dunlop tires that came on my RAV4 were small. The Michelins I have on now are true to size and the speedometer is accurate. The only downside is more downshifting.
Very expensive but going to get a set this coming October
Thank you
Generally all weather tires are great all year around. But I bet around 70% they are going to be no better than an all season, vs blizzaks and xice are almost fully effective until the bitter end. I'd love to try these tires, they are likely way better than the other brands of all weather's. The other thing to consider is you don't want to chew up your nice alloys with the winter salt depending where you live.
Thinking about getting these for a 2013 Lexus sedan. Thanks for the review
FWIW: I just put them on our 2007 Camry XLE 6 Cylinder.
Right when this Ice Storm is firing up today.
I am impressed with these tires on the ice.
I want to play with them in some deeper snow.
EXCELLENT CHOICE 👍
Just bought a set for my daughters Subaru Impreza all wheel drive. Its been raining hard here in California and worried about her driving on worn summer tires.
Out the door with a road hazard policy they cost around $1300.00 at our local Big O tire shop. Great service by the way 👍👍👍👍
Small price to pay for her safety and my peace of mind ✌
I got a set of CrossClimate 2's for a Ford Focus and they are fantastic on snow.
Glad to hear! Just commented. Getting these for 2012 Ford Focus SEL HB. Car was sounding like Thumper the Rabbit :o)
I had a set of Nokian wrg4 and they are great for foot of snow and ice. I wonder how's the noise level for the cc2 after 10K miles, cause the wrg4 were noisy as hell.
Cc2 are noisier than wrg4. Check out Toyo Celsius.
Ha what a trip! I drive that area all the time 😂. Im gonna go grab a set from the Costco right behind ya.
how you know where to drive when you dont see the road lines????
Have a set that are going on my son's car soon. 1 winter on them and they were great. Quiet, smoother than the Continrntal All season that yhe car came with and better in deeper snow than the old X Ice that I had on my vehicle (Highlander.) and those were really good winters.
I have a 2019 Highlander Hybrid and I had a set of these put on 1,000- miles ago. My one reservation had been what I'd read about fuel economy. To date, I'm getting incrementally better MPG than with my OEM Bridgestone Dueler Ecopia tires. The Michelin Defender is rated at 80K rather than the 60K for the CrossClimate 2 but the winter handling should more than make up for that in peace of mind.
I just purchased these for Jeep Cherokee AWD. I live in Vermont and because of climate changes our winters are not as snowy as past years . So these seem to me to be a good compromise for all season . I wake up early on power days and drive on snow roads to the ski . I will report back here once that happens to tell about my experience
I had these on my Chrysler 300c and loved them on snow but the cornering was mushy on warm dry pavement in the summer which caused me to constantly adjust my steering during cornering. I’ve recently bought a crossover (CUV) with all wheel drive and really want to give the CrossClimates a try again and hope the summer cornering is better with them on a CUV….
CC2's are not great in dry weather compared to summer tires. My recommendation is if you live in an area that doesn't get that much snow, you should get the CC2s because a full on winter tire does not perform well in dry or wet conditions. Get the CC2's for Winter and get all season4's from michelin for the summer.
Nice review! Are these All-Season or All-Weather tires? Kal-Tire lists them as All-Weather but Costco lists them as All-Season.
only thing that stops 2 wheel drive on these is snow blocking radiator and getting undeneath engine above undertray due to ride height..... good on ice,y compacted frozen snow, eliminates aquaplaning, and dry weather with stiffer more precise feel all adds up to double the price and i d still buy them
62 down Eden Prairie, hilarious. Near the area I used to live in. Just got these tires myself today. First time i'll have some proper tires in the Winter.
I've ordered them from discount tires and will have them installed this Friday.
How do you like them so far
My cross climates just demolished the recent storm we had in SE MN,I was out the entire time driving for Uber and doordash, I can count the amount of times ABS kicked in on one hand. Truly remarkable. I had to stop myself from driving too fast cause these tires will give you confidence and you may get into some trouble 😂😂
I have a set on my rav 4 and I have to say they are great in the snow and rain definitely more grip than I have bravery. I do get about 1-2 mpg less but if it keeps me from paying a insurance deductible or body shop that reduce resale value than it’s worth it. Not to mention you get road side assistance with Michelin that’s at least as good as AAA mid grade option so that’s like a $100 value as well.
What year is your RAV4? I have a 2011 RAV4 and I’m probably gonna go with the Cross Climate 2’s when the time comes for new tires. I have to deal with driving in the snow so I kinda want an all season/all weather tire that will perform well. In my opinion if you have 4WD/AWD snow tires aren’t really worth it unless you have another set of wheels you can throw them on and just run them in the winter.
How durabilité/longevity?
Are they noisy?
Been running the Continental DWS-06 for about 3 yrs on a STI. They're great in all weather conditions with amazing tread wear !! They're sitting at 10/32 but 3yrs old so they're coming off before next winter. We don't get much snow but hella ICE in the mountains where we live. Additional siping will 100% help with the ICE grip being that's the only complaint I've ever seen from the Michelin CC2.
how are the contis with ice grip ?
been running that same tires on my sti since i bought it 2014 sti.. im from nj so we get blizzard , ice , everything you can imagine and for the performance you get from dsw-06 its going to be hard for me to swap these with this michelin.. i need to see it on another sti before i make that leap..
Try Continental VikingContact 7 after that you are stunned how good is real winter tire what ise made for north winters.
Continental VikingContact 7 is one of the top winter tires, Michelin X-ice Snow too and there are other top brands.
@kaliikleja thanks for the recommendation!!! I'm now driving a Ranger Black Widow on 33s. Ended up with Kenda Klever, reviews and testing were impressive
you MN man! I know those roads... I just bought a full set of those crossclimate 2s... i hope i enjoy them
nice review - i'm getting some for my Subaru - ty
Michelin cuts the sipes all the way down. Others cut the sipes only halfway down so they don't keep the same performance when used
Try Michelin X-Ice Snow, these are real north winter tires and gives real good grip.
I just bought these and put them on my Bolt EV. Impressive tires.
need to a video of a bolt in the snow, hope it has not caught fire.
I'm trying to decide between these and the bridgestone turanza queittrack. I want a quiet smooth ride not sure which one will do a better job. I live in the midwest but I want a ride that benefits from 8 or 9 months out of the year with smoothness and quiet instead of something that is only highlighted in the winter. But I could have a completely wrong perspective. I would rather have a quiet smooth ride during spring, summer, and fall vs great performance in the snow...
So get the Bridgestone if you don't care about the snow at all. That's the point of these tires.
Try Michelin X-Ice Snow, these are real north winter tires and gives real good grip.
what about in the summer time?
i bought a similar pair of tires, debica navigator 3, i hope they are close to michelin crossclimate, i owned first version of michelin crossclimate sometime ago on another car
Navigatory są miękkie w lato - trzeba uważać na zakrętach.
We have the CrossClimate+ on our 328hp Infiniti Q50, they are truly amazing. People might be turned off by the premium price, but they are well worth it. We had them on our G37 but the car was sold after just one year with the tires. The amazing thing is that the handling wasn’t sacrificed at all with these, very little road noise for such an aggressive tread as well. Michelin struck gold with these.
Michelin improved the rubber compound for the Crossclimate 2. Tire looks the same but better winter traction and lower rolling resistance.
Why did we need to know horse power? 🤦🏻♂️ 😂
I don’t even think these are considered premium price in the grand scheme. I just picked up a set of CrossClimate 2 for my MDX and spent less than a grand. I normally buy high end tires and they were less than several other competitors’ offerings. Can’t wait to try them driving up to ski in the Rockies this weekend.
Glad to hear that cause i recently bought those
how do they perform in summer on highway? any road noise at high speed like freeway? do a review more in depth for summer,fall and winter all in one.
Heard of high growling noise at 120km/hr or higher. Not that quite as all season tires.
Put a set on my wife's FWD Pacifica. Absolutely fantastic!
Replacing OEMs with these MCC2s on wife’s 2012 Ford Focus next week. Waiting to be dazzled!
Try Michelin X-Ice Snow, these are real north winter tires and gives real good grip.
Use these only at winter, at summer use summer tires.