Was The Quran Really Preserved? It Doesn't Matter!
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- Muslims claim that the Quran has been perfectly preserved and that this is miraculous. I have more than 10 problems with this claim.
Correction: No idea why I said "attributed to Uthman." There is no Quran that is attributed to Uthman. There is only one claimed to come from the time of Uthman but none of that is verifiable.
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Preserved...not preserved, what’s the difference? 🤷🏻♂️
It’s still the most hilarious book of stupidity, absurds and nonsenses ever made. Stolen and copied fairytale stories, myths, legends, rituals and traditions of other religious groups surrounding Arabia, plagiarised poems with hint of sick perverted, cruel quarter brain, of all times.
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@mysotiras 05 jesus didn't teach to be so disrespectful. So you are disobeying him and just ignoring what he is saying. Great Christian!
@@MOTIvationNoblee and who told you she’s a Christian? She’s obviously and atheist!
@@MOTIvationNoblee Oh, but Jesus teach other things too.
E.g. there's a passage in the Gospel by Matthew which foretold the coming of Mohammad. It's true, read it - Mathew 7:15-23
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity
Perfectly preserved book doesn’t need recurrent standardizations like the way Uthman burnt all the original manuscripts and the dumping of variants in the Nile River in Cairo in 1924
Perfect religion but can’t withstand any critique.
@@artiew8718 It’s a coward religion
Muissie claims that uthman was the original version.
The difference of texts and meaning between Quran version Hafs and version Warsh already prove that it is not perfectly preserved. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsh
And thats not included version Qolun, Ad Duri, Hisham, etc.
Stop worshipping science and stop believing we came from monkeys 0 add 0 cant equal 1
*"If a shxt is preserved for a thousand years it still remains a shxt, it doesn't become muffin!"* -AP
Sheikh uthman ran from quran preservation challenge by pakistani christian live challenge
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Perfect
This paraphrase is a reading from the NBAV(New Black Angel Version). 😊
ok brother
but you are still shxt
ironic
Instead of Islam, If he was giving this exact statement about evolution without any changes, it would still be a 100% factual and logical statement.
Exmuslims are increasing ✌️
Yes but only people who have no knowledge about islam
@@vortex4fun
No only people who have knowledge of Islam
+1
Numbers are high rocketing. The invention of the internet was the worst thing to happen to islam
Yes alhamdulillAH
Greek literature were more preserved than the Qur'an. I guess Greek literature was sent by Allah....
Or someone better than allah. Zeus?
@@gary_rumain_you_peons Absolutely. I would rather worship Zeus and follow Perseus as a "Prophet" who is more a hero than Muhammad.
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I don't think that is historically accurate. Many of the Greek writings come from late manuscripts, few manuscripts (some we only have one copy of, which is not good because we can't do textual criticism on it), translations etc.
There is a solution. Allah can open his own bookstore dedicated to selling only the official version of the Quran. He could send Muhammad specifically for book signings.
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I have a solution, why not have Allah try to re-type the quran on my keyboard??!! Oh wait, he can't do that since I've been begging ...
Please do whatever prayer you wish to get your god to type "Hi" on my keyboard (without the quotes) to show the world your god is not a fantasy. Thank You.
To any believer. So far gods have been silent.
hahahahahhahahhahahahahahahhahhahahahahhahaahhahahahaha SO VERY TRUE!!! That indeed WOULD be an UNDENIABLE proof!!!!!
Can Muhammad sign anything? He is illiterate
@@misterbig9025 Handprints. Using different colour paints to reflect which day it is.
Perfectly preserved since 1924...
You mean finally canonized in 1924?
After Cairo edition
Think about it. The Islamic empire were so big from Morocco to Indonesia. And not all of Muslims spoke Arabic. We had so many different languages. Not only that, we’ve gone through so many hardships throughout the history. The Mongols destroyed the Abbasid caliphate and burned the library of Baghdad which was the biggest library in the world if not in history. The same thing happened in Spain. And in the 19th century more 90% of Muslim countries were colonized by non Muslim countries. Yet we still have one version. I mean our enemies could’ve easily sneaked some words and rules in our book. Who would’ve realized that⁉️ . And if someone tried to deny what they could’ve been added to it, their argument would’ve been a clue of not being preserved because we would’ve have had so many groups with different languages arguing about which one is correct and what is not. Which is not the case here. because as I said people were spread all over the map and you know how difficult and long it took to travel from one place to another. We would’ve had so many versions and it doesn’t matter which one is authentic. as matter of fact this is what happened to the Christians and the Jews when the Romans and Bakhnsar took over Jerusalem one after another.
What about the books of interpretation⁉️ huh! They contain the same Quran and they date back to hundreds of years ago.
@La Tusalih Dear me, go learn how to reason. All you muslims do is beg the question of your choosing. Stop it. If you care about the truth and not your emotions (I understand, I would also like 72 pale virgins to jack me off and kiss me all day but come on), look at this: Mohammed said that Judgment Day would follow shortly after Constantinople fell to Muslims. Muslims failed to capture it. Turks later did. Both of these events dismantle the prophecy. Period. You can choose to believe whatever you want but know that your belief is contradictory to reason. Know also that islam has caused immeasurable pain, suffering, death, rape, and terror and continues to do so. I beg you, be human. Your time to be human is nigh. Islam is about control. Saying that only the afterlife matters and promising you things you can't possibly verify... is deception. Control. A warlord's tactic and rhetoric. Please, man, be a man. Take your family and yourself out of islam. Follow a more noble religion. Be a man i beg you.
Canonized in 1988.
Muslims always say Torah and Bible are corrupted, which are God's words, and Allah accused Christians & Jews for corrupting them. But interestingly, Islam's God never mentioned
1) The names of the persons who corrupted those books
2) Exactly when did those books get corrupted?
3) Was Bible corrupted first or was Torah corrupted first? If one was corrupted before another then why God didn't try to preserve the latter?
4) Why did Islam's God say "I will preserve Quran" when in reality it was humans (Muhammad's companions & students) who memorised it in order to preserve it?
There are lots of questions like these which islam fails to answer.
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And aishas goat ate part of it
Yes why Allah allowed the corruption of the Torah? Never mentions , and Allah could easily himself write publish the damn book for all people
@Can'tFightThisFeeling Yes. In Quran everything that Islam's God says is vague and without substantial evidence to support it. It seems like he is saying "I am God. Trust me bro"🤣
The reason Islam says the Torah and holy Bible are corrupt is because they are doing a defense of the quaran by going on an offense.
The means, the quaran is very flawed and clearly BADLY plagerised with lots of missing important details from both the old and new testament. So to counter that Islam says that the reason it's missing all this info and correct information is not because the quaran is wrong, but rather those other holy books are corrupt and have incorrect and added info that shouldn't be there.
It's rather crudely clever for it's time, by projecting they placed the other faiths on the defensive. Even though we all know(well, mostly all know) that it's definitely the quaran that is poorly written.
A perfectly preserved book whose original pages were eaten by a goat.
😭😂😂
The sheep didn't eat verses of Quran and even if it were it still doesn't effect the preservation of Quran cuz those verses were already memorised by Sahaba
@@Struggler410 So you are attempting to discredit Aisha, "mother of the faithful", call her a liar, just to perpetuate deception.
Nice try.
@@ericagos1601 don't talk about things that u have no knowledge of. Have u done ur research on this Topic? I am sure u haven't.
Here is a refutation to this Claim of sheep allegedly eating verses of Quran. ruclips.net/video/nEguur02tPg/видео.html
Those verses were abrogated not eaten by a sheep and they were about "Brustfeeding" not "adult Brustfeeding". For the sake of argument even if we agree that they were eaten by a sheep it still doesn't effect the preservation of Quran cuz those verses were already memorised by Sahaba like Umar ibn Khattab, Zayd bin Thabit etc.
The authentic ahadith of Aisha RA crearly say that those verses were abrogated and not eaten by a sheep. I have studied this Topic.
@@Struggler410 yes I have. I was expecting a response like the one you gave.
Muslim apologists will go against centuries of Islamic scholarly consensus; they will throw the most highly esteemed scholars under the bus; they will go back and forth with hadiths, trying to discredit the most reputable like Sahih Al Bukhari, and using an obscure reference from a hadith that supports their argument, even though it comes from a questionable hadith and is one assertion against many that agree on the opposite.
This is what you are doing. It is comical to watch Muslim apologists discredit, lie, and misrepresent their own highly respected sources, throw the most highly esteemed scholars under the bus (past and present)-just to "be right" and cover up and uncomfortable truth.
Why? Because Islam is all about deception. And as the deception is being revealed to the general public, and many people are becoming educated about Islam, the apologists are scrambling to explain, justify, and cover up.
The common tactic is to provide a moving target. By constantly trying to redefine what hadiths are reputable. I have heard from many apologists all contradicting each other. You are not the authority on the subject. Neither am I.
Who is the authority? Centuries of Muslim scholars and majority opinion of Muslims who all agree on which hadiths are the most reliable, which ones are not.
Mohammed and his followers including Aisha, who set forth the doctrine of abrogation, and clearly stated events like the one you are trying to deny.
Yes, Mohammed did command women to breastfeed men ten times to negate possible adultery. Not surprising coming from a pervert who consummated a marriage to a nine year old girl.
Yes, those verses and others were eaten by a sheep while Aisha & Co. were mourning the death of Mohammed, due to being poisoned from one of his victims.
But you will probably try to say that he was never poisoned LOL.
I don't care about some refutation. Thats nothing new, as i said before Muslim apologists are pathological liars, especially now that there is public awareness.
There are many examples on here of the most popular muslim apologists telling the most outrageous lies to stadiums full of gullible people who would believe anything they say.
One says that Alexander the Great founded the catholic church in Rome 300 years before Jesus LOL.
Zaker Naik claims that Mohammed is mentioned by name in Song of Songs, in a love poem between king solomon and his wife.
He also claims that the same scriptures have been corrupted, so he needs to explain why he is trying to use "corrupted"scripture to justify Islam.
A perfectly preserved book does not mean it is divine in any way. I'm not aware of any message love, peace and goodwill towards all mankind in the quran.
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"...does not mean it is divine."
I think the question if it is "divine" is interesting.
Quran uses "selfreference" but never mentions that it was created.
If it is eternal, without beginning in time and divine, does Islam have two gods or is it like Christians understand it that God and his word are one?
However, I see the Quran as a kind of Idol for Islam, as a placeholder for allah on earth :)
@Yus Mo he's a bot
@Yus Mo He doesn't have a valid answer to challenge the argument posed by AP.
Yeah ? Its a miracle of Real TRUE GOD. Allah promised to protect the message forever. Even the verses of Quran from preserved tablet which were previously given to Moses , David , Abraham , and jesus are also protected ( in past scriptures ) the bastards couldnt forge them. Our commandments are from abraham. We dont take eye for an eye , nose for nose etc. We eat flesh from bone.
Ex-muslim from Turkey 🇹🇷
Stay safe brother...
You have no worth, wether you believe or not
I suggest you fled to Malta
Sheikh uthman ran from quran preservation challenge by pakistani christian live challenge
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Take care of that fool erdogan my friend ali..
I have talked to muslims about their "perfectly preserved" book, and when I bring up the erased words, words written over, words added in the early qurans, They revert back to memorization. Then I ask them, was the part memorized before or after the changes and words added? Want a perfectly preserved book? look at a math book! I think they get frustrated.
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Do you think there was paper 1400 years ago??? People wrote on pyrus and if they wanted to write again theyd have to erase the pervious writing....
We have Quranic manuscripts that date from the 1st century of Islam and are no different from the ones we have today
@@tahahagar7664 wrong. What we have are parchments (goat skin), not paper as we know it.
The memorisation argument is flawed. Very few Muslims memorise the Quran. Very few know Arabic.
@@hereweare9096 And who told you that? In my country we have tens of thousands of kids, some as young as 10 that have memorized the entire Qur'an by heart. I myself despite my work commitments have memorized a quarter of the Qur'an. And the fact that some memorizers don't know the arabic language yet are still able to memorize the entire 60 sections (hizb) is a miracle in itself.
🐐- Quran itself shows and confirmed that it didn’t preserved
🤣 exactly!
Sunan Ibn Majah
Dar-us-Salam reference
Volume 3, Book 9, Hadith 1944
In-book reference
Book 9, Hadith 2020
Reference
Hadith 1944
It was narrated that 'Aishah said:
“The Verse of stoning and of breastfeeding an adult ten times was REVEALED, and the paper was with me under my pillow. When the Messenger of allah died, we were preoccupied with his death, and a tame SHEEP CAME in and ATE IT.”
Think about it. The Islamic empire were so big from Morocco to Indonesia. And not all of Muslims spoke Arabic. We had so many different languages. Not only that, we’ve gone through so many hardships throughout the history. The Mongols destroyed the Abbasid caliphate and burned the library of Baghdad which was the biggest library in the world if not in history. The same thing happened in Spain. And in the 19th century more 90% of Muslim countries were colonized by non Muslim countries. Yet we still have one version. I mean our enemies could’ve easily sneaked some words and rules in our book. Who would’ve realized that⁉️ . And if someone tried to deny what they could’ve been added to it, their argument would’ve been a clue of not being preserved because we would’ve have had so many groups with different languages arguing about which one is correct and what is not. Which is not the case here. because as I said people were spread all over the map and you know how difficult and long it took to travel from one place to another. We would’ve had so many versions and it doesn’t matter which one is authentic. as matter of fact this is what happened to the Christians and the Jews when the Romans and Bakhnsar took over Jerusalem one after another.
It really bugs the Dawah crew that AP has commonality with Christians lol when they get checkmate by AP the first thing they say is "Why are you defending Christianity when you're not even Christian" ... It really burns them that there's unity 🤝
Because let's be real,there is a reason atheists are willing to team up with Christians against Islam; but no atheist will team up with a Muslim against Christianity
The group Atheist Republic aren't growing because they like to weave Christians into the same fabric as Muslims and always infer that Christians who are against Islam have an agenda, when all they want is not to be subjected to Sharia, due to their experiences in areas where Islam dominates.
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No need to defend history nor religion.. unless false history in islam.. 😂
A person no need to defend prophet.. unless false prophet like muhammad.. 😂
Why christian need to defend christianity like muslim defend islam..? Christianity logic is against islamic logic.. especially about defending the faith... which faith..?
Islam depends upon constantly reiterating misinformation about Jewish and Christian scriptures.
Mein Kampf has been perfectly preserved since its inception and I have no doubt that in 1000 years it will still be available letter by letter. What does that say about God?
So the same message we get from the preservation of the Quran.
godwin’s law
I'm all for criticizing Islam, but in order to do that we need to be honest about what Muslims actually say. Muslims don't claim that "all" perfectly preserved books are divine. Muslims don't believe that photo-copies or facsimiles, for example, have anything to do with the supernatural. Muslims make a distinction between ordinary texts (like Mein Kampf) and the text of the Quran, because the Quran (unlike most other books) actually claims to be divine. Thus, the preservation of the Quran could be evidence in favor of that claim (i.e. perfect preservation is a necessary, though not a sufficient, condition for divinity). By the same token, consider the following sentence:
1. If Jake goes outside today, then Jake will play baseball.
This applies to Jake, and only to Jake. Playing baseball is a necessary condition for his being outside (i.e. if he doesn't intend to play baseball, then he definitely won't go outside). We can't say that "everyone" who goes outside today will likewise play baseball, just as the Muslim claim about the Qur'an says nothing about the status of other books.
@@alanbishopman and in order to find out what they really say, you need to go to their mosque if they’re open to non-muslims or else you can convert and find out. knowing is experiencing,
not listening to reactionaries. it’s like playing telephone. you won’t ever hear the right story through gossip
@@alanbishopman so its only evidence for the quran being divine when it only benefits the quran, got it
My phone book from 1987 has been perfectly preserved and not one number has been changed to this day! My phone book was truly written by God!
indeed brother indeed, long live 87 phone book.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have a letter from 1899 preserved down generations 😂 guess its god
You must be a prophet! Do you have neurological problems? If yes, you could be like prophet Momo (Piss be in his mouth)
@@defectoamarsins3539 hahaha because I guess your little letter, that no one cares about, being preserved for just over 120 years, is the same as a book containing over 70,000 words, preaching a whole religion that thousands of people were opposed to, being preserved in the same order for one thousand and four hundred years. heheh what a comparison my bro *snort*
Harry Potter makes way more sense than the holey Quran.
Ngl no it does not let's be realistic it's about people flying and magic lol, Quran is worse a read thou while Harry Potter is at least fun to read
XD true
🤣
I rather believing in Fictional character that sadistic god like allah
@@hyperionstardust6571 it's not a god it's Muhammad's puppet
Quran is indeed destructive to the brain.
There was a verse in the Qur'an when a lot of muslims kept coming to the house of Mohammad for food and he was not comfortable with them staying longer after eating but was shy to tell them off. It was Allah who now send down additional page of the Qur'an, telling Gabriel to tell Mohammad to tell the people that he (Mohammad) was not pleased with the people coming and not leaving on time, but was very shy to say it. So the people should leave immediately after eating.
The crazy thing about the whole scenario is that, it was still the same Mohammad telling the people how he felt when they kept hanging around for long time in his house.
Yes that surah came down after he married his adopted son's ex-wife after he disowned him so he could marry her (she's also Mo's cousin). In case you thought it wasn't messed up enough already.
@@itachi7285very convenient revelation of a scumbag prophet. it's such a bizzare that anyone with a brain would not easily detect that Mohammad was a con-man and fraud.
There was also a a time when some of his fellow bandits accused Mohammad of stealing a red velvet cloth from the booty and Mohammad never deny it, but it was Allah who quickly send another Quran from Gabriel to Mohammad to tell the rest looters that it wasn't Mohammad who stole the cloth.
@@adewaleadaja7287 And also the verses about women needing to wear the hijab was all because of Umar who kept pushing for it for Mo's wives and spying on women going to the desert at night to do their natural business.
@@adewaleadaja7287 You mean allah sent verses just to save muhammad from insults ?
Think about it. The Islamic empire were so big from Morocco to Indonesia. And not all of Muslims spoke Arabic. We had so many different languages. Not only that, we’ve gone through so many hardships throughout the history. The Mongols destroyed the Abbasid caliphate and burned the library of Baghdad which was the biggest library in the world if not in history. The same thing happened in Spain. And in the 19th century more 90% of Muslim countries were colonized by non Muslim countries. Yet we still have one version. I mean our enemies could’ve easily sneaked some words and rules in our book. Who would’ve realized that⁉️ . And if someone tried to deny what they could’ve been added to it, their argument would’ve been a clue of not being preserved because we would’ve have had so many groups with different languages arguing about which one is correct and what is not. Which is not the case here. because as I said people were spread all over the map and you know how difficult and long it took to travel from one place to another. We would’ve had so many versions and it doesn’t matter which one is authentic. as matter of fact this is what happened to the Christians and the Jews when the Romans and Bakhnsar took over Jerusalem one after another.
The big question is, "Why did Uthman have all previous materials collected and destroyed?"🤔
probably what he destroyed, was even more idiotic blood thirsty evil, than what was left in that book
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It's preserved because uthman first make a full copy of the same Quran and burn the rest because it was not needed anymore and send the rest to around the middle east countries
Exactly
I think that was because they were in different dialects, not to forget written form was never the original source of preservation of Quran, oral form was the original preservation of Quran as all the companions of prophet Muhammad pbuh and companions of companions memorized the whole Quran cover to cover
The plagiarism, the mess, the contradictions, the confusions, the incoherence, all is perfectly preserved 🙃👍
What verses
@@jennafaez4169 all
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Well dumb people don't know about quran until they read it themselves then their whispers of satan will be stopped and their misunderstandings
@@usmansadiq8754 Qs 66:1-2 🙃😆
It never made sense to me that a divine and perfectly written book needs to be interpreted by mortals. My question would be if the book is from God and God is perfect, then what gives mortal and fallible men the authority to interpret it? Do those interpreters believe that God is capable of mistakes that need correcting? If so, the argument that God is all perfect goes out the window.
To add. On top of the confusing book there are also nothing else that's perfect being created anywhere in the multiverse. Not one. Creation it seems is nothing but rotten. Pain, suffering and destruction for everything. Even for those who worships.
I love these philosophical questions! Well let see if God were perfect but mankind is flawed(let's say for arguments sake due to original sin). Then anything in contact with mankind can be interpreted incorrectly (either on purpose or accidental). But if God is perfect then anything he created within his realm remains perfect.
So a holy book created or thought up by God in his heavenly realm stays perfect but once that said book is given to mankind in our own physical existence, then said book is prey to corruption of any kind, whether it be physical or interpretive, etc...
So technically you can still keep the idea that God is perfect, but that a now flawed mankind can render things corrupted.
Of course this is all fun talk, and could have many possible ways of thinking about this.
You don't think the word of a perfect being would need imperfect beings to interpret it correctly?
Your not making sense.
"do those interpreters believe that God is capable of mistakes that need correcting?"
Injecting this thought of yours really begs the question. Do you have no counterargument that you had to rely on this strawman? When did they say that thought that you obviously came up with?
Think about it. The Islamic empire were so big from Morocco to Indonesia. And not all of Muslims spoke Arabic. We had so many different languages. Not only that, we’ve gone through so many hardships throughout the history. The Mongols destroyed the Abbasid caliphate and burned the library of Baghdad which was the biggest library in the world if not in history. The same thing happened in Spain. And in the 19th century more 90% of Muslim countries were colonized by non Muslim countries. Yet we still have one version. I mean our enemies could’ve easily sneaked some words and rules in our book. Who would’ve realized that⁉️ . And if someone tried to deny what they could’ve been added to it, their argument would’ve been a clue of not being preserved because we would’ve have had so many groups with different languages arguing about which one is correct and what is not. Which is not the case here. because as I said people were spread all over the map and you know how difficult and long it took to travel from one place to another. We would’ve had so many versions and it doesn’t matter which one is authentic. as matter of fact this is what happened to the Christians and the Jews when the Romans and Bakhnsar took over Jerusalem one after another.
Interpretation has nothing to do with the preservation.
I subscribe when he has only 10 k now he has near 300 k , I learnt a lot from him , I love my Muslim neighbours but I am against political Islam .
There is no such thing as political islam bro, you have been deceived by Zionists
@@tahahagar7664 lol so why does sariya exist?.
There is no difference between "political" Islam and "religion" Islam. The main characteristic of Islam is that it is a religion/state.
@@brendabrenda6782 Ok well this goes for all religions and all ideologies that make moral judgements. Politics is based on morality after all
So why single out Islam??
@@tahahagar7664 Can you prove? He raped?
Was the quran really preserved?
Short answer: no.
Long answer: nooooooooooo.
Muslim answer: ISLAMAPHOBE
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Goat has eaten some portions of the Quran and rest is preserved. 🤗
My yellow pages from 20 years ago didn't perfectly preserve, even if it did, new information has gone in and old out
Have they changed phone numbers? 2001 was a long time ago.
Then quran is fake haha
Think about it. The Islamic empire were so big from Morocco to Indonesia. And not all of Muslims spoke Arabic. We had so many different languages. Not only that, we’ve gone through so many hardships throughout the history. The Mongols destroyed the Abbasid caliphate and burned the library of Baghdad which was the biggest library in the world if not in history. The same thing happened in Spain. And in the 19th century more 90% of Muslim countries were colonized by non Muslim countries. Yet we still have one version. I mean our enemies could’ve easily sneaked some words and rules in our book. Who would’ve realized that⁉️ . And if someone tried to deny what they could’ve been added to it, their argument would’ve been a clue of not being preserved because we would’ve have had so many groups with different languages arguing about which one is correct and what is not. Which is not the case here. because as I said people were spread all over the map and you know how difficult and long it took to travel from one place to another. We would’ve had so many versions and it doesn’t matter which one is authentic. as matter of fact this is what happened to the Christians and the Jews when the Romans and Bakhnsar took over Jerusalem one after another.
stop lying dude stop lying
I have already read the perfectly preserved Iliad. It's a miracle, therefore Zeus.
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exactly!!
🤣😁👍🏽
And it's WAAAAAAAAAAY older than cuckoo qu-a-a-a-a-a-a-ran!
Laillaha illah Zeus wa Posiedon wa Hades wa Hera wa Aphrodite wa...
Hey Ridvan from Chechnya, we need a video about Qur'an's and Muhammad's ignorance of prophets🙏 Will you make a video about it one day? Appreciate you.
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Chechnya is muslim majority right?
May Allah save Quran from chechens 😂😂😂 ! Chechens are doing great on leaving Islam .
@Not Right Now chechnya is muslim majority federal area of russia ruled by in a semi islamic atmosphere.i know it. that's why i asked.
@@epg96 well, majority of them are.
Dude! This is by far the best, eloquently ravaging monologue video on Islam by you.
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Doesn't matter if apus keeps barking😂ruclips.net/video/-But7VUveAc/видео.html
@ggvgj Dude you literally can't even commit the crime of thinking without checking with your Hijab if it's okay to do so. You are nothing. And you choose to be nothinv
@@greyngreyer5 Islam is anyway a fraud cult and Muhammad was the world's most obvious Dajjal.
@@dajjalmohammadmulhidpeer5198 The Bible predicted a false prophet would come from a desert ^^ Not a Christian, just using Muslim logic against them.
Epic of Gilgamesh is more preserved than Quran.
cringe tbh
But distorted version of epic of Gilgamesh is in the quran (chapter 18 •al-Kahf•), stolen and copied by false self proclaimed prophet of isLame as a revelation from his nonexistent imaginary god.
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And it is much more beautiful and interesting than quran.
Is it, how did you prove that???
A goat ate the Quran
A pig near my house ate the Qur@n 😳✌
Sheikh uthman ran from quran preservation challenge by pakistani christian live challenge
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And perfectly preserved it in her stomach 😂
This dumb apus comes with arguments that got debunked 7272 times and he knows that
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Allah is supposed to be all powerful and knowing, but he can't even preserve his original holy book from corruption.
Yes, when Muslims accuse the christian and Jewish books of being corrupt they often laugh about it, failing to see that their “God” technically failed to protect his previous books, that’s not something I would be laughing at, I’d be questioning it.
Think about it. The Islamic empire were so big from Morocco to Indonesia. And not all of Muslims spoke Arabic. We had so many different languages. Not only that, we’ve gone through so many hardships throughout the history. The Mongols destroyed the Abbasid caliphate and burned the library of Baghdad which was the biggest library in the world if not in history. The same thing happened in Spain. And in the 19th century more 90% of Muslim countries were colonized by non Muslim countries. Yet we still have one version. I mean our enemies could’ve easily sneaked some words and rules in our book. Who would’ve realized that⁉️ . And if someone tried to deny what they could’ve been added to it, their argument would’ve been a clue of not being preserved because we would’ve have had so many groups with different languages arguing about which one is correct and what is not. Which is not the case here. because as I said people were spread all over the map and you know how difficult and long it took to travel from one place to another. We would’ve had so many versions and it doesn’t matter which one is authentic. as matter of fact this is what happened to the Christians and the Jews when the Romans and Bakhnsar took over Jerusalem one after another.
If we had the first copy that wouldn’t have been that impressive. I mean we could go back to it whenever we feel lost.
*Egyptian have perfectly preserved jar of honey which is 3000 old according to archeological report, should we worship and call it holy honey?*
Does the honey ask people to worship it?
@@TheRedHexagon-hp8ie unlike Quran..
Sheikh uthman ran from quran preservation challenge by pakistani christian live challenge
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Think about it. The Islamic empire were so big from Morocco to Indonesia. And not all of Muslims spoke Arabic. We had so many different languages. Not only that, we’ve gone through so many hardships throughout the history. The Mongols destroyed the Abbasid caliphate and burned the library of Baghdad which was the biggest library in the world if not in history. The same thing happened in Spain. And in the 19th century more 90% of Muslim countries were colonized by non Muslim countries. Yet we still have one version. I mean our enemies could’ve easily sneaked some words and rules in our book. Who would’ve realized that⁉️ . And if someone tried to deny what they could’ve been added to it, their argument would’ve been a clue of not being preserved because we would’ve have had so many groups with different languages arguing about which one is correct and what is not. Which is not the case here. because as I said people were spread all over the map and you know how difficult and long it took to travel from one place to another. We would’ve had so many versions and it doesn’t matter which one is authentic. as matter of fact this is what happened to the Christians and the Jews when the Romans and Bakhnsar took over Jerusalem one after another..
@@latusalihyasalim4872 *It doesn't take much time to burst blatant lies out of your mouth. Baghdad library wasn't the largest nor biggest library, IT WAS THE LIBRARY OF ALEXANDRIA, the biggest of all.*
*Muslim do have different versions of Quran, namely hafs, warsh, doori, sanaah, khalaf, qulan, ruways etc.... THE QURAN YOU DO HAVE RIGHT NOW IS A CAIRO EDITION OF 1924..NOW CRINGE THAT YOU HAVE ONE VERSION..if it was the case why did uthman burnt the Qurans cause there were multiple contradictory verses..Not just Muslims endured hardship, other faiths and ethnicity did endure hardship from Muslims either..*
The Quran was supposedly perfectly preserved... yet there are sahih Hadiths which state some parts have been literally eaten by goats and thereby lost forever 😂😂
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By perfectly preserved it probably means unchanged
By writing
@Can'tFightThisFeeling Actually....it is very likely that Mohammed's wives including Aisha took the opportunity to destroy it so that they wouldn't have to breast feed their depraved husband's companions 24/7.
Sheep really haven't been good to Islam, have they? Come to think of it, they're downright Islamophobic!
We have the sheep who ate the literal words of Allah.
Then we have the poisoned sheep that killed Mohammed.
I'm surprised that eating mutton isn't haram, rather than pork.
Think about it. The Islamic empire were so big from Morocco to Indonesia. And not all of Muslims spoke Arabic. We had so many different languages. Not only that, we’ve gone through so many hardships throughout the history. The Mongols destroyed the Abbasid caliphate and burned the library of Baghdad which was the biggest library in the world if not in history. The same thing happened in Spain. And in the 19th century more 90% of Muslim countries were colonized by non Muslim countries. Yet we still have one version. I mean our enemies could’ve easily sneaked some words and rules in our book. Who would’ve realized that⁉️ . And if someone tried to deny what they could’ve been added to it, their argument would’ve been a clue of not being preserved because we would’ve have had so many groups with different languages arguing about which one is correct and what is not. Which is not the case here. because as I said people were spread all over the map and you know how difficult and long it took to travel from one place to another. We would’ve had so many versions and it doesn’t matter which one is authentic. as matter of fact this is what happened to the Christians and the Jews when the Romans and Bakhnsar took over Jerusalem one after another.
The content of that verse you mentioned is known it’s not lost. however, the story is not authentic.
I think it’s high time Muslims dropped the slogan of perfectly preserved Qurans and think of something else because everyone now knows that Qurans are not preserved at all.
They'll have to do that as they've already stopped saying "islam is a religion of peace" or "Islam is a universal religion"
@@dogrubilgi8915 Exactly
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So what if its perfectly preserved that doesnt mean its a fkin miracle!!!!
So what if its perfectly preserved that doesnt mean its a fkin miracle!!!!
Even lies can be perfectly preserved
perfectly preserved shit. Muslims - We are proud of that
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@@reefk3412 so funny thanks.
Think about it. The Islamic empire were so big from Morocco to Indonesia. And not all of Muslims spoke Arabic. We had so many different languages. Not only that, we’ve gone through so many hardships throughout the history. The Mongols destroyed the Abbasid caliphate and burned the library of Baghdad which was the biggest library in the world if not in history. The same thing happened in Spain. And in the 19th century more 90% of Muslim countries were colonized by non Muslim countries. Yet we still have one version. I mean our enemies could’ve easily sneaked some words and rules in our book. Who would’ve realized that⁉️ . And if someone tried to deny what they could’ve been added to it, their argument would’ve been a clue of not being preserved because we would’ve have had so many groups with different languages arguing about which one is correct and what is not. Which is not the case here. because as I said people were spread all over the map and you know how difficult and long it took to travel from one place to another. We would’ve had so many versions and it doesn’t matter which one is authentic. as matter of fact this is what happened to the Christians and the Jews when the Romans and Bakhnsar took over Jerusalem one after another.
We have perfectly preserved the Count of Monte Cristo by Alexander Dumas,and we preserved a masterpiece
I'm all for criticizing Islam, but in order to do that we need to be honest about what Muslims actually say. Muslims don't claim that "all" perfectly preserved books are divine. Muslims don't believe that photo-copies or facsimiles, for example, have anything to do with the supernatural. Muslims make a distinction between ordinary texts (like the works of Dumas) and the text of the Quran because the Quran (unlike most other books) actually claims to be divine. Thus, the preservation of the Quran could be evidence in favor of that claim (i.e. perfect preservation is a necessary, though not a sufficient, condition for divinity). By the same token, consider the following sentence:
1. If Jake goes outside today, then Jake will play baseball.
This only applies to Jake. Playing baseball is a necessary condition for his being outside (i.e. if he doesn't intend to play baseball, then he definitely won't go outside).
Yet, clearly, this doesn't imply that "everyone" who goes outside today will likewise play baseball, just as the Muslim claim about the Qur'an says nothing about the status any other book.
@@alanbishopman I know that,I was just making a joke that is actually a true statement. I did not really state specifically that because this work is perfectly preserved it automatically means that it is divine. It's just the work of a genius.
The Quran is perfectly preserved. Also: Allah is the greatest of deceivers. bahaha!
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The only miracle lsIxm has is the *PERFECT PRESERVATION OF MO'S EPILEPSY!!!*
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Sheikh uthman ran from quran preservation challenge by pakistani christian live challenge
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@@islamexposed7313 thanks for the link 🙏🏼 just saw that 🤣
Hey don't insult the people out there who have Epilepsy. Mo the ped was much worse.
@@briancarty7789 where did I insuIt people with epiIepsy? I'm just saying that Mo's case of epiIepsy was very well preserved! There are tons of hadiths about his seizures for example!
Remember the Sears catalogue? I don’t really, but I’ve heard about it. If you took a 1975 Sears catalogue and hermetically sealed it and buried it; then 2000 years later dug it up and opened it…it would be a perfectly preserved….Sears catalogue.
Sure the item prices would be ‘miraculously’ cheap, but that wouldn’t imply they were godly!
;-)
Think about it. The Islamic empire were so big from Morocco to Indonesia. And not all of Muslims spoke Arabic. We had so many different languages. Not only that, we’ve gone through so many hardships throughout the history. The Mongols destroyed the Abbasid caliphate and burned the library of Baghdad which was the biggest library in the world if not in history. The same thing happened in Spain. And in the 19th century more 90% of Muslim countries were colonized by non Muslim countries. Yet we still have one version. I mean our enemies could’ve easily sneaked some words and rules in our book. Who would’ve realized that⁉️ . And if someone tried to deny what they could’ve been added to it, their argument would’ve been a clue of not being preserved because we would’ve have had so many groups with different languages arguing about which one is correct and what is not. Which is not the case here. because as I said people were spread all over the map and you know how difficult and long it took to travel from one place to another. We would’ve had so many versions and it doesn’t matter which one is authentic. as matter of fact this is what happened to the Christians and the Jews when the Romans and Bakhnsar took over Jerusalem one after another.
@@latusalihyasalim4872 one version is one version too many. The Quran is an excruciating read. We’re Allah real, he would not be happy that there are people who attribute him as the author.
Cuneiform tablets have been perfectly preserved for longer than the Quran. That fact says absolutely nothing about whether what is written on the tablets is noble in some respect. Nor does it say anything about whether what is written reflects the truth.
@@penfro you’re comparing a stupid stone to whole book that’s spread and memoriesd all over the world. You asked for evidence and when you got it you couldn’t deal with because you thought it’s not there. You atheists are all the same. You’re fighting so hard to deny everything that doesn’t go in your favor. Hanging in there.
Book of isaiah is still excist and well preserved.
@mysotiras 05
it means, bible is indeed much more reliable than quran.
Even the epic of Gilgamesh is perfectly preserved and so is the Egyptian Book of the Dead.
I love these so called 'miracles' love saying without actually thinking about what they are saying. "There are no contradictions in the Qur'an this is a miracle" I'm pretty certain there are thousands of books with no contradictions and I'm sure we could all write a book with no contradictions. They say things without realising how the miracle is just a simple thing. Spin doctors at their best
"cats dont walk on the quran, its a miracle!"
"birds dont poop on the kaaba, its a miracle!"
The more I study islam, the more I'm convinced that Mohammed was the Joe Biden of his day. A mindless mouthpiece being led around and believing his own larp.
Difference is, this time, we saw it coming. With mohammed, his framework affected millions to this day. Bidens framework, and the way the CAA is trying to prop him up to appear in history, has all failed miserably.
@@InitialPC Yet I've seen both happen lol
Which of the quran is perfectly preserved: the one eaten by a tame sheep? The one burnt by uthman? The one dumped in Nile river in Egypt?
The part where you get to have 72 plastic blow-up dolls. Geez, didn't you read it ?, . You are now NOT allowed into the Muslim Matrix !
Hafs quran was made up in 1924 and chosen as an official quran for most of the countries..(even hafs has 5 or 6 variants though) ..Hmm.. That explains the preservation..
Hafs’s book of hadiths was rejected by all top scholars (Ibn Kathir, Tabari, Bukhari, Muslim, Nisai and so on) claim that Hafs was a LIAR, FABRICATOR and COPYCAT.
But Hafs quran is OK!! 😆👍🏼
Yeah, hafs quran is a daiff hadith
Those are dialects mr smarty. What about the books of interpretation⁉️ they date back to hundreds of years ago.
Talking about preservation. Think about it. The Islamic empire were so big from Morocco to Indonesia. And not all of Muslims spoke Arabic. We had so many different languages. Not only that, we’ve gone through so many hardships throughout the history. The Mongols destroyed the Abbasid caliphate and burned the library of Baghdad which was the biggest library in the world if not in history. The same thing happened in Spain. And in the 19th century more 90% of Muslim countries were colonized by non Muslim countries. Yet we still have one version. I mean our enemies could’ve easily sneaked some words and rules in our book. Who would’ve realized that⁉️ . And if someone tried to deny what they could’ve been added to it, their argument would’ve been a clue of not being preserved because we would’ve have had so many groups with different languages arguing about which one is correct and what is not. Which is not the case here. because as I said people were spread all over the map and you know how difficult and long it took to travel from one place to another. We would’ve had so many versions and it doesn’t matter which one is authentic. as matter of fact this is what happened to the Christians and the Jews when the Romans and Bakhnsar took over Jerusalem one after another.
I think you should have mentioned what Yasir Qadhi said about the preservation of the quran
Here is a Yahud project, says a devout who has refused to think on his own.
Thanks AP, been long.
We love you...
Why would a Muslim think Jesus was a Muslim?
1. Jesus never said the shahada
2. Jesus never prayed “Allah” but He called God His “Father”, claimed to be the Son of God.
3. Jesus never bowed toward Mecca
4. Jesus never mentioned the importance of the kaaba or pagan black fertility stone.
5. Jesus never prayed repeating the same words or phrases over and over again (Matthew 6:7)
6. Jesus never did Ramadan fasting
7. Jesus never did Jihad, his kingdom is not of this world. (John 18:36)
8. Jesus never hated His oppressive enemies, in fact, he loved the Romans and healed their servant (Matthew 8:8-10)
9. Jesus never did stoning, terrorism, torture.
10. Jesus never did a pilgrimage of pagan Hajj
11. Jesus prayed looking toward heaven (Mark 6:41, John 17:1)
12. Jesus drank wine (John 2:10)
13. Jesus prayed in privacy (Matthew 6:5-6)
14. Jesus never had slaves.
15. Jesus never told anybody to say "SAW" or "PBUH" after the mention or writing of a prophet's name.
16. Jesus advocated READING from the written scriptures (Matthew 21:42).
17. Jesus never raped anyone or child in Jihad.
18. Jesus instituted a New Covenant, (Matthew 26:28).
19. Jesus died on a cross, (John 2:19-21, Matthew 27:42).
20. Jesus rose from the dead! (Luke 24:44-48).
👍🏼 Great presentation on the faulty book. Shared on other Social Media.
Qur'an ist kaputt!
Quran perfectly preserved holes in the standard narrative
The Book of Mormon is intact, with chains of witnesses the Quran can only dream of.
By that logic, Mormonism trumps Islam?
And let's not even get started with Scientology, whose book is also intact...
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The ''Rigveda'' - a scripture of Hinduism - is dated to between 1500-1200 BCE. It is one of the oldest known complete religious texts that has survived into the modern age
@@ReasonedRhetoric There you go!
@@ReasonedRhetoricHinduism is chapitism the name for asians racism.
@Yus Mo Bro, I'm just googling. I don't know and don't really care. :-)
What about A Buddhist holy text, the Diamond Sūtra is considered to be the oldest surviving dated printed book in the world.
Hi AP! Have you taken a look at Marijn van Putten’s recent Twitter thread on Q 19:26? He demonstrates that the variant found in the San’aa Palimpsest is either the original, or something closer to the original, compared to what we have in today’s ‘Uthmaanic rasm (text). It’s quite explosive stuff.
This, and the interpolations found in other parts of the same surah (Q 19:1-63), is sufficient in refuting this false religion.
Can’t wait for you to post more!
Great clip... even if we grant we have the words directly from Muhammad, this still doesn't prove anything but human exertion in an effort to maintain the tradition. The Muslims could easily have seen the problem with the two previous Abrahamic textual traditions to try learning from them and getting a textual canon as early as possible.
wow my fav YT channel here.
Not only that, but the preservation of the Quran is not even unique as Muslims like to claim. The Proto-Masoretic Hebrew texts have been preserved in pretty much the same way as the Quran, and it is even older than the Quran, which makes it much more "miraculous".
i like ap's channel but i like your channel more
Sheikh uthman ran from quran preservation challenge by pakistani christian live challenge
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@Constantine Mithras it’s so well preserved there’s over 30 different Arabic Qurans with variations 🤦🏻
If allah was truthful about protecting the quran, he should have protected the original copy.
Could someone give me the sources to what he said? I don't get what he meant by seven variants and want to learn more for myself
Can you make a video about the sahabas?
Or why the 90% of the hadiths are from one man named Abu Huraira?p
A great, succinct presentation of the issues. Thank you.
I have a perfectly preserved PENTHOUSE magazine from 1990.
Give it 10 more years and I'll join your religion!
Muhammad would like that
I just watch your video on why Indian objection to Islam I just wanna tell you are doing amazing work thanks for sharing knowledge
And Islam is being always a reason for conflict and chaos we will not surrender 🇮🇳🇮🇳
Hey AP. 1:15 - 7 variants ? Hatun Tash has found I think at least 30 different Arabic Quran’s
Charisma Stjames
, Scholar of Theology and Religious Studies
Updated Aug 19, 2020
There are currently 30+ different versions/readings/Qira'ats/ Qurans that exist in the world today.
A Qira'at, in regards to the Quran, is an iteration of the text done by a group of scholars; there were 30 popular ones in Islam.
10 were ‘official readers’ and another 20 were students who worked underneath the readers, known as ‘transmitters’.
They were responsible for looking closely into the 'rasm' (The skeletal structure of the text) and then determined where to put dots and vowels into different places.
Here is a list of the 10 readers
Nafi al-Madani (d. 785 AD)
Ibn Kathir al Makki (d. 738 AD)
Abu'Amr Ibn al-'Ala (d. 770 AD)
Ibn Amir ad-Dimashqi (d. 736 AD)
Aasim Ibn Abi al-Najud (d. 745 AD)
Hamzah az-Zalyyat (d. 773 AD)
Al-Kisa'i (d. 804 AD)
Abu Ja'far (Medina - d. 748 AD)
Ya'qub al-Yamani (Basra - d. 821 AD)
Khalaf (Kufa - 844 AD)
The following is a list of the transmitters
Qalun (835 AD)
Al-Bazzi (d. 864 AD)
Al-Duri (d. 860)
Hisham (d.859 AD)
Shu'bah (d. 809 AD)
Khalaf (d. 844 AD)
Al-Layth (d. 854 AD)
Isa ibn Wardan (d. 777 AD)
Ruways (d. 853 AD)
Ishaq (d. 899 AD)
Warsh (812 AD)
Qunbul (d. 904 AD)
Al-Susi (d. 874 AD)
Ibn Dhakwan (d. 856 AD)
Hafs (d. 796 AD)
Khallad (d. 835 AD)
Al-Duri (d. 860 AD)
Ibn Jummaz (d. 787 AD)
Rawh (d. 849 AD)
Idris (d. 905 AD)
You are able to order any of these online.
Among all these different Qira'ats, there is an overwhelming 93,000 differences.
The one chosen to be the standard Qira'at was Hafs, in 1924. Hafs was a student/transmitter who died in 796 AD. He lived in Kufa.
Futhermore, Hafs was not even one of the 'Readers', nor did he live alongside the prophet Muhammad, nor during the time of King Uthman.
Muhammand Al-Hussaini al-Hadad an Egyptian teacher at the University in Cairo, was asked by the Bureau of Education there, to choose ‘one’ of the Qira'ats as the authoritative one.
He chose Hafs.
His credentials are not known, and no one seems to know why he chose Hafs. This took place in 1924.
The “1400 year old Uthman argument” has only been around for 100 years. It is a recent argument which is currently falling to pieces, since it is utterly failing the test of ‘Historical Criticism’.
The list above, alone, proves this matter, and unfortunately the number of different Qira'ats/Qurans continues to rise as they are being discovered and reported.
In 2016, 26 different Qurans were discovered by Hatun Tash, whom later presented them at the 'Speakers Corner' in London England with the help of Dr. Jay Smith.
They faced heavy opposition despite the clear evidence they had in their hands.
These 2 professionals have devoted many years studying the history of Islam and the authenticity of the Quran. Dr. Jay Smith began his scholarly research in this area during his time in India, and officially began taking on this issue in a public setting since 1995, starting with a debate in Cambridge.
Their findings are a phenomenal breakthrough.
No Muslim has confronted the ‘textual historical analysis’ of the Quran. The 6 manuscripts, each located in their respected places, Turkey, Uzbekistan, Paris, London, Egypt, and Yemen, were never challenged in the field of Academia until 2002-2007, by two Muslim scholars.
Thank you for a well done analysis of the Quran. Your presentation confirmed my own assessment of the book.
Allah said he gave Muhammad a book.
Muhammad was never given a book.
The works of Shakespeare are very well preserved, but that doesn’t mean MacBeth really murdered Duncan and really became King of Scotland.
Hi, I have a question: is the presence of different variants of koran enough to destroy the myth of perfect preservation? Is it true that the apologetics do not accept the very existence of variants of the koran?
Well said, AP. The perfect preservation of a book of nonsense.
"Muhammad received the Word of God for those people at that time, at a time very different from the time that you are living in today. It was a Message for that time, but it also contained the seeds of greater wisdom and compassion, much of which has been fortunately preserved.
But Muhammad did not compile the Qur’an as he was charged to do, for he perished and died before it could be completed. It was, therefore, assembled by different individuals who had different intentions, and the great Suras of personal revelation were left out. Islam became a religion of obedience and submission, which were necessary at that time especially. But the revelations of personal realization and the Love of God were not included.
It is a problem, you see, a tragedy in its own right, that the great religions were established beyond the lifetime of the great Messengers, a problem that has been repeated many times with many unfortunate consequences."
*The New Message from God* - The Time of Revelation - Muhammad and the New Message from God
Muhammad will be between under the legs with the devil enjoying himself.
Sheikh uthman ran from quran preservation challenge by pakistani christian live challenge
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This moron says anything to keep his listeners happy, even against his own sources!
Word of god?
like man have a sperm and it comes from his backbone or that a woman have sperm and it comes from her chest/ribs???
That’s NONSENSE!! god cannot be that stupid!!!
Interesting, thanks!
i ❤️ gnostic heresies. are there any suras in the seven manuscripts what are not included in the official quran?
Great video.
Clear and concise.
Nice bit of Tchaikovsky at the end.
The advert at the beginning saying Mohamed was sent as a mercy to the world cracked me up. Apparently he always ate last, thinking of others first. Shame he didn’t think one way to put others first was not to take advantage of people including a 6 year old girl (going on to defile her when she was just 9). If this doesn’t shock you, you should have your head examined.
Maybe we could have some respect for him had he not been such a perfect example of a false prophet.
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Aisha was probably raped when she was 4 because Muhammad was dreaming about her. After he got caught, he had to make up a story to stay alive.
Then Islam was born.
Think about it. The Islamic empire were so big from Morocco to Indonesia. And not all of Muslims spoke Arabic. We had so many different languages. Not only that, we’ve gone through so many hardships throughout the history. The Mongols destroyed the Abbasid caliphate and burned the library of Baghdad which was the biggest library in the world if not in history. The same thing happened in Spain. And in the 19th century more 90% of Muslim countries were colonized by non Muslim countries. Yet we still have one version. I mean our enemies could’ve easily sneaked some words and rules in our book. Who would’ve realized that⁉️ . And if someone tried to deny what they could’ve been added to it, their argument would’ve been a clue of not being preserved because we would’ve have had so many groups with different languages arguing about which one is correct and what is not. Which is not the case here. because as I said people were spread all over the map and you know how difficult and long it took to travel from one place to another. We would’ve had so many versions and it doesn’t matter which one is authentic. as matter of fact this is what happened to the Christians and the Jews when the Romans and Bakhnsar took over Jerusalem one after another.
@@latusalihyasalim4872 what one version do you mean out of the 37 that have been found so far?
@@killpridebeforepridekillsy6504 do you understand that there so many Copies from the books of interpretation and Other Islamic parts of the sharia that date back to hundreds of years ago that are similar to the one we have nowadays . And the book that was printed by Azhar that you’re talking about is no different from the others. Don’t talk about Qira’ats. You can print whatever you want, there’s only one that’s been carried on over the centuries up to this point by just reciting that’s the only book Muslims use. Either give me a real evidence or just shut up.
…..and they claim that they follow science when they’re a bunch of depressed people who have no idea what they’re talking about …
Mind control is the deadliest weapon human can ever use.
It’s a cult. Most Muslims fall back on tribalism. Muslims take offense to any arguments because they’re told from the jump they’re better than the infidels. “No questions” 😂
@@artiew8718 yes, cult is just religious way to call it, but psychologically its mind control. Same thing as they mind control people about corona and vaccines.
@@artiew8718 so Aputhiesm is also a mind control ing which has no knowledge
Hi @apostate can you please give the others Korans . Of some notes in the description.
Hi, cant you meet or discuss with Odon Lafontaine and Jay Smith ?
GOD BLESS You And Fam Apostate Prophet🕊️
So good to hear you. Clear and simple. Thanks AP.
If you want to preserve perfect words, will you tell it to someone who often forget things or mentally unstable?? Why should all wise Allah does so??
In other words like with the Torah and the Bible, bit’s change, pages lost, burnt. It doesn’t exist, it could have had bits removed. By the way, do you think a lawyer could get someone charged with blasphemy off. By asking for the offended party to be brought to the court in order for them give testimony?
They couldn’t bring god forth and anyone saying it is them that is accusing the defendant. The next question would be if they were claiming to be god? If they say speaking on behalf, you then ask if they are claiming to be a prophet. Since death for blasphemy is done in Muslim majority countries. The person accusing wouldn’t be able to proceed. I don’t know if lawyers are used in blasphemy cases.
Love the OG intro
Hello AP, great video. God bless from fellow Christian
@My Dear Brother Ben what do I wish?
@My Dear Brother Ben yeah i know, just wishing him blessings, i do that to anyone regardless of their faith to show my appreciation, that being said God Bless 👍
Sheikh uthman ran from quran preservation challenge by pakistani christian live challenge
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@@islamexposed7313 nice bro, Christ always wins
What is the name of the classical music piece at the very end?
6:47 but wouldn't your argument on loyal people being biased, apply to haters being biased? Yet you suspiciously didn't mention it again. Right after talking about it
havent heard that intro in a while. my favorite
Nice to see you doing history again!
Preservation of Qur'an is a belief yet it is touted as proof of its authenticity. Isn't that circularity in argument?
You must believe in Qur'an to subscribe to perfect preservation whose sole proof is the Qur'an itself!
It's commin among christians that they have not read the bible, i get the impression amongst muslims, even fewer have read the quran themselves. Or looked honestly and openly at the criticisms
Be serious. Martha Stewart's cookbook is more preserved then the quran
Yo bro, you really need to check out CIRA internationals work breaking down the timeline events of the Mecca, and what they uncover about the Qurans original writing. That would add a lot more depth to your argument
A lot of their work that they mention is very speculative, and rarely done by actual scholars. They do point out some interesting evidence, but one needs to be very skeptical of it.
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@@reefk3412 Show me the jinns and angels mentioned in quran
Latest video on quran "interpolations" by Odon and Jay is an excellent addition on this topic. See Pfan der films.
AP, nice job, but I think you also need to mention the Sanad "system" and how that doesn't really add any additional layer of robustness to their argument. I've had that thrown back at me several times in discussions with Muslims - "Ah, but we have the Sanad and it's foolproof because this scholar said this about the [inject Arabic terms] aspect of it..."
It was preserved until the tame sheep ate some verses.
Sadly, that is the least of the quran's problems.
“The standard narrative has holes in it ”
-Yasir qadhi 2020
But they are perfectly preserved and holly holes.
Watch his video he said the standard narrative about the people who wanted to assemble it has holes in it, not that the Quran does.
Their are 32+ qurans which one is the perserved one?
Check the difference between Hafs Quran and Warsh Quran
Also check the difference between some verse of Sana Manuscript at the lower side of Sana manuscript which were pre Uthmanic and have variation with today's Standard Quran...
This video will be perfectly preserved, second for second. Masha AP
The holes in the narrative ⭕️⭕️⭕️
7:25 what's wrong with being repetitive? Especially when it stresses the importance of stuff.
The fact that I didnt know there are7 variants until now 😳😳 what are the names?
Imagine having to forcefully be in a religion which was made by a man with psychological problems...
Btw Love your videos AP!
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You'll get used to it eventually
It is irrelevant whether the Holy book is perfectly preserved or not.Many violent and immoral Ayaths should have been deleted or modified to make sense and presentable in the present times.
Think about it. The Islamic empire were so big from Morocco to Indonesia. And not all of Muslims spoke Arabic. We had so many different languages. Not only that, we’ve gone through so many hardships throughout the history. The Mongols destroyed the Abbasid caliphate and burned the library of Baghdad which was the biggest library in the world if not in history. The same thing happened in Spain. And in the 19th century more 90% of Muslim countries were colonized by non Muslim countries. Yet we still have one version. I mean our enemies could’ve easily sneaked some words and rules in our book. Who would’ve realized that⁉️ . And if someone tried to deny what they could’ve been added to it, their argument would’ve been a clue of not being preserved because we would’ve have had so many groups with different languages arguing about which one is correct and what is not. Which is not the case here. because as I said people were spread all over the map and you know how difficult and long it took to travel from one place to another. We would’ve had so many versions and it doesn’t matter which one is authentic. as matter of fact this is what happened to the Christians and the Jews when the Romans and Bakhnsar took over Jerusalem one after another.
What violence⁉️ what about the million of non Muslims who have been with us for centuries. Apparently we didn’t kill them
Excuse me, Isn't it similar to our Japanese National Shinto, during W.W.2nd?
I always thought about religion, and especially about Islam why God has a problem to send a message to people. If you want to say something there is no point to mysterious the message causing division in interpretation. From religious point of view God is almighty and he can create everything out of nothing so why he can’t create understandable book or message that everyone could comprehend without playing believe or not believe
The difference of texts and meaning between Quran version Hafs and version Warsh already prove that it is not perfectly preserved. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsh
And thats not included version Qolun, Ad Duri, Hisham, etc.
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Nice name!
@@eeeero4275 Syeh Yasir Qadhi already say that are HOLES in the narratives. ruclips.net/video/DsikKJg4ETw/видео.html
It is not just reciting differences, the texts and meaning are very different too.
And its in Arabic.
Examples:
And many a prophet FOUGHT (Quran version Hafs recitation)
And many a prophet was KILLED (Quran version Warsh recitation)
Al 'imran Q3:146
Muslim always claim all Qurans in the world are exactly the same up to the dot and comma.
Many of muslim scholars and imams saying this all time, you can find it in youtube.
And it was proven wrong.
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The best of the scholarly opinions concerning what is meant is that there are seven ways of reciting the Qur’aan, where the wording may differ but the meaning is the same; if there is a different meaning then it is by way of variations on a theme, not opposing and contradiction. the seven styles were revealed with different wordings, as indicated by the hadeeth of ‘Umar, because ‘Umar’s objection was to the style, not the meaning. The differences between these styles are not the matter of contradiction and opposition, rather they are synonymous, as Ibn Mas’ood said: “It is like one of you saying halumma, aqbil or ta’aal (all different ways of saying ‘Come here’). Peace be on you. Don't listen to people who try to make things up and twist things and are biased!
And Wikipedia is such a reliable source isn't it?