Restoring a Champion “Midway” No. 71 Forge and Blower - Part 1: Disassembling the Forge
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- Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2024
- Restoring a Champion “Midway” No. 71 Forge and Blower - Part 1: Disassembling the Forge
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OMG! I knew I saw you somewhere before Keith! You were my blacksmithing merit badge counselor at Philmont When I was a kid! I couldn't quite figure it out, that's been 30 years ago. But I never forgot what I learned then. I went there for 2 weeks when I was close to getting my Eagle scout. That's cool!
You know, you made the job much harder on yourself when you said the magic words "That was easier than it should have been"
I have the forge, anvil & tools that belonged to my great grandfather passed down through the generations. The duck nest is exactly like yours but with no tray. We have always mounted it in a rock or brick foundation. The blower is on a pedestal. My dad was particularly talented with it & I learned from him. When i was a little fellow, about 3 years old I discovered that by pulling down hard on the blower crank, the flywheel inside would give me a ride over the top picking me up off the ground. One day I was "riding the blower" and it toppled on top of me pinning me to the ground, the oil stem hit me in the head cracked my skull and I ended up in the hospital with stitches and a concussion. My Mother was horrified and surely gave my Dad the 3rd degree. The next day, I was eating lunch (broccoli) in my hospital room when the doctor came by... he said, "If that boy is well enough to eat that hospital broccoli, he's good enough to go home."
My grandfather (born 1891) trained as a blacksmith in a buggy factory. When he finished training the boss put him in the paint shop, which he disliked. He found a job on the railroad and rose to engineer. He always liked working with metal, and could fix or fabricate just about anything. I remember the unique smell of his workshop, a mix of varnish, grease, and coal smoke. They don't make them that way any more. Thanks for showing this new project.
Keith is probably as close as you'll get to your grandpa.
Teaching boys at summer camp is probably one of the best experiences of my life.
Hey Keith, one of my fondest memories as going through that Philmont camp and doing the blacksmith activity, so thank you for serving there. That was my first hands on metal working intro. Thanks
That is really a great find!
Hi Keith. I have that exact forge. They are a beast! I love mine.
I was one of those kids just sitting in the back not really caring about what the teacher was talking about. For the past 35 years have been regretting it almost every day. So nice to come here and try to play catch up on my learning. THANK YOU!!
Keith, I would love to see you rebuild the blower. I don't think I have seen anyone redo one that was any further than a good cleaning and they all are just noisy as can be. I did not think they could be silent. Looking forward to this series.
Thanks for the videos.
I grew up in Albuquerque, and the state is called the land of enchantment, but for those that moved there, but can't afford to move away, it's called the land ot entrapment.
I have fond memories of summer camp in the Farmington area of NM. In my welding class, we had an introduction to blacksmithing, and it's something that I've used many times.
Yes, I have heard the Land of Entrapment statement. Tom Joles of KOB TV used the term in reaction to those who called NM that. I lived in Deming for over 15 years, but went back home to the East Coast.
That red high heat silicone is a good choice for that gasket. We used it on all our late model headers which would be glowing red hot for 100 laps. It seals better and does not get loose and crack like a gasket.
I think something like gun gum paste would be a better alternative.
The old local blacksmith here in town used that for decades.
He sadly past away not to long ago 🙁
My friend from the NJBA chapter of ABANA had one of those and it was such a joy to use. But looking at that firepot it is super different and doesn't look like the original. I do hope you restore that as well. That original design of the champion firepots worked so much better than the modern ones that just have a puck in the center. That puck always burns out, but the champion one never had an issue and the air was directed super well right to the middle of the coal fire.
Keith - You are just like me. The newest project almost always goes to the top of the list. It doesn't even make the list. I just start working on it.
Take it apart to see what makes it tick! I know that feeling!
That thing is in great shape. I can’t wait to see this progress. As usual, great video.
The threads in the leg bosses look super clean!
WE'RE ALL EXCITED, GREAT START, GREAT JOB, PET OR TELL EVERYBODY HELLO, GREAT VIDEO...SEE YOUALL WHEN...
Come to Keith's place, the den of rebuilding & restoration. I think he is happiest when working on a project - and there have been so many. Yet another job is on the list and you bet it will turn out like new. You are an inspiration, Keith.
It looks like it should be a great little forge. Nice work Keith! I am up early right now at 4:30 a.m. getting ready to give myself a Lovenox blood thinner injection.
that doesn't sound very fun,
hope all is well...
best wishes from 🇨🇦
@@ontariofishing1790 I have had two aortic valve replacements and everytime I have an invasive medical procedure done I go off my Warfarin blood thinner and on to the Lovenox bridge. I am prone to blood clots so I will be on these thinners the rest of my life. May Our Lord Jesus bless you and your family, always and forever.
You have my deepest sympathy. I have been on blood thinners since 1989. The process of going on and off Coumadin, now Jantoven (name brand Warfarin), and on to Lovenox (Heparin) is absolutely miserable. I cringe even thinking about it. I wish you the best and hope everything goes well.
Bob
Good morning from the UK Keith , perfect timing just got a coffee 😁
Can't wait to see you build a full setup at home near the shop!
This is a fun project, looking forward to the restoration.
The cast bracket is the absolute hardest to find when missing.
The legs and hood are all replaceable
Sounds like someone needs to make a pattern and store it with Windy Hill Foundry.
For some reason my father hated the term "cheater bar". He called it a "persuader".
I use a #41 Champion in our shop, it’s in my latest video. 🔥🔥🔥 This is an awesome project Keith!
Man, I love your channel. Always something new and different.
I thought you already had a forge, if memory served me correctly (failing these days) you got one a few years ago. Glad you didn't get hurt when the blower arm dropped... and that it didn't crack. You are doing quite a few projects at once. Certainly great to have the space and while one is working send the other out... good on you.
The only bit of blacksmithing I've done, was making a poker, in metalwork class, at school. 😊
Love it. Really interesting project. I like it when you deconstruct this kind of thing and bring them back to new.
Very interesting, Keth.
Classic disassembly, you just did whatever had to be done to avoid damage. Sometimes that can be the most risky part of a job (to the worker and the project). Good Job!
Thank you Mr. Keith this was an excellent video showing the action and not a whole Lotta talking looking forward to the restoration and hopefully you’ll find a time to use it
Thanks Keith,
Just a Note, if you haven't figured it out by now but the Audio kept changing between Video Cuts ?
Mike M.
I'm going to find this very interesting. When it's done, I do hope you'll show us some of your blacksmithing skills!
What you called a tee pipe is the tuyère for the fire pot.
Thank you for sharing. Enjoyed.🔨👍👀
Thank you for sharing your skills and I have enjoyed the content
Keith: A muffler shop may be a good option for a new blower pipe. They bend large diameter pipe like that every day, and the muffler pipe has to stand up to high temps. in use.
17:26 Keith, position your body weight on the side that's sliding, then use your 'cheater-bar' to unscrew that final leg. Looking forward to part 2...thumbs up!
I built my first forge at 14 with a lot of help from my Dad. I used a reversed vacuum cleaner motor for the blower. A really, really bad idea.
I picked up blacksmithing back in my early 30s (around 2004ish I think). Propane fired forge, but well equipped with a couple anvils, hammers tongs, etc. Really got into it to make knives and did that, but had a lot of fun doing other stuff, like making the tongs and fullers, hot cuts, axes, all kinds of stuff. Unfortunately, just like you mentioned, I tore my right shoulder up really badly a couple years ago and I still haven't gotten it quite behind me yet, may need another surgery yet. Still have it all and hope to get back to it one of these days. It'll be fun to watch you get it set up, and I sure do hope you post some blacksmithing content, I'd love to watch it.
Thankyou Keith for sharing your wonderful projects.
I am surprised to heck and back that the blower arm isn't broken. What sorcery is that? :)) This will be a great project.
I know, if that was me, I would have taken that blower and arm off before I tried to flip it. I know what would have happened if I tried that and it ain’t pretty. Lol
As always, Thanks for sharing your journey and most interesting history!
Great project, thanks.
Quite an addition to the shop. Not intending to be critical, but you are like many of us and have a large number of projects going on at once. .Enough to keep you going for some time. It's the Sara Winchester approach.
I always like working on more than one project at a time, you get frustrated, or tired or stuck working on a job and you move to the next one until that one gets old. Then back to the first one with a fresh perspective and it keeps me from getting bored and messing up something.
Just what I like to do.
@@Hoaxer51 Yes, I agree. But there is a flip side. When you get old and/or ill and there are more projects started than you can finish. The high probability is your prized projects will all end up in the scrapyard.
Our crew blacksmithed at Philmont also.
Philmont!!!! WOW!!! Very cool. Best place on the planet. Did a trek at Philmont. My sons were able to do two treks. The blacksmithing anvil at Philmont is called Betty (I think).
Oh Bettty I’m so sorry!
Loved my trek and memories.
@@Cinder2008 It took me 50 years to get there, but it was well worth it. I remember the blacksmith having each of the scouts say 'Oh Betty, don't be buggering up my pretty face''.
That is a beautiful forge.
Wow that's nice Keith, Hope there is some fun in store and trying to find some stuff to fix this old forge. I have a Buffaloe Forge. the legs are probably 8 or 10 inches longer and like you say in your video they swoop out almost the whole length. guessing 2 1/5 or maybe three inches higher. I think I measured the height at about 31" table top to floor. Good luck
Very interesting thank you Keith. I've not seen that style of forge before, the people I know who use old hand cranked forges have the smaller rivet style forges.
cool project.. cant wait for part 2
cheater bar info, I use aluminum baseball bats with the large end cut off about an inch from the end. There is a reinforcement band inside to strengthen the sidewall. Very light and strong.
Fascinating - as always
great content keith
Good video 👍
Thanks Keith.
Great video Keith, keep'um coming..
I hear you about High School! I graduated in 1976 (as it happens today is my 64th birthday) and I took the metal shop classes because I wanted to learn. Unfortunately, in my experience, as was yours, most of the guys in there were "steered toward the trades" as they were definitely NOT college material! Guys in tenth grade counting the days until their 18th birthday and could drop out and spend the rest of their lives pumping gas. The same guys that made my HS life miserable (as one said years later) "Because I was so much smarter than them"! I made "A"s and "B"s and they made "D"s and "F"s and had been held back a grade or three (but I digress). 🤬
Do not think Mr grumpy next door would appreciate me taking up blacksmithing
Great project. Thanks for sharing.
THANKS KEITH
Nice new project Keith. I was thinking you could have done with a forge to heat up that big cast iron brazing repair you did recently!
They used hi temp caulk on the frue flange. Good for 500 degrees.AL B.
Keeping the original legs and adding back on the missing section would keep the nice curves.
Okay honestly, how hard did you laugh when you started editing this video and saw your cat taking a bath in full view of the camera? 😁 Because it looks like from where you were standing you may not have noticed that at the time, lol.
The Red is likely wood stove front glass sealer. High Temp for certain.
I won't mind an occasional blacksmithing video. A bit of variety is good.
If it won't move, don't force it, get a bigger wrench.
If it breaks, it needed to be replaced anyway.
I have the champion blower and a leg set for the blower. Also have the tuyere with the damper and clinker breaker, but not the fire pot, nor any of the rest of the forge pan nor hood. All in remarkably good shape for their age. You might just get me energized to fabricate the balance of what I need to get a forge going.
What happened with the white mountain ice cream churns from 3ys ago? They were disassembled and then no more videos.
That RTV silicone is designed for high temps.
Now you can take that steel scrap and forge some Damascus parts. Have fun!
Kids these days are more interested in becoming "influencers" than they are learning trades. I recall some of those same people you're talking about in high school shop classes as well. Anyway if we don't start encouraging youngsters to participate in industrial education, in 100 years trades like blacksmithing and old school machinists will probably die out. Everything will be done with CNC or some other technology
So "to many irons in the fire" comes to mind but enjoyed the content. You need the 36 inch long pipe wrench just put it next to pipe and it will come free.
The older I get the longer my cheater bar gets. Now I can't pick up the bar. Thanks for your time. Pete in South Carolina
On the right of the forge, is that a water tray?
I have an old champion rivet forge.
An interesting project for any blacksmithing hopefuls. Any plans for a gas forge too?
Any News On Mr. Wiggins? Really miss his channel! Everything 👍🏻 okay?
Are you going to build a hood for it?
Now you need a "spreading chestnut-tree"
I went to Philmont in '87, we're you working then? What camp?
everytime you were banging on that chisel i was squinting awaiting for the pan to break. I am always weary on hammering on cast iron parts
My thoughts exactly!
I see ginger gave the forge a cat scan. 😁
Something you can do with cast iron you can melt and cut the old bolts out with a cutting torch without harming the cast iron as a cutting torch will not cut cast iron, however this will not work on cast steel as a cutting torch will cut the cast steel
Hello Keith!
I watch a saw mill channel that has a swinging chop saw. A 4-5" wide flat belt is used. The belt flaps like a flag in a gale. I think this may be an issue. How should a flat bet look in normal operation?
A set of 3 v-belts from the diesel engine to the 50" blade also flap. I think this is also an issue. Any suggestions or AM I being an alarmist?
Thank You and forge on.
A wise man once mentioned that a cheater bar/pipe was a special tool used to break the head off a wrench.
or break a vice
Hey Mr Rucker!! Do you still have your monster size evaporust tank? 😃 It would be great for this project!!
It was stove pipe silicone
What the H E Double Hockey Sticks is the blade on that grinder? Never seen anything cut that fast!!!!
Whatever happened to the Diresta bandsaw?
I'm still wondering why you did not fasten the forge bottom to the saw horses clamped it blocked it in some way
As a personn that does a lot of rigging for work. Our common practice is to never basket anything we need to flip. I've seen many endless loop slings get cut thru or slip. We choke everything, safer when by yourself
the stuff i saw at the shipyard would curl your hair
@@ronalddavis, Ah yes, the good old days! Most of us managed to live through them though. Lol
Lots of audio problems - which is unusual for you. You feeling ok?
If you find another one I'll take it
I hope I'm in that good a condition at 110 years old
Should call it an Archimedes Bar, not a cheater bar :)
Mr Pete would say you'a Buba with your hamer and chisel but I like it My good friend Buba likes your chanel to
Who was it that said"give me a lever and I can move the world" or in your case a cheater bar...
😊❤👍👍👍🦴💪